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Tuesday, May 28, 2019

On Saturday, members of the Ku Klux Klan hosted a rally in Dayton, Ohio. The rally was small, and only nine members of the KKK were present. In objection to the KKK about 600 people from the community showed up to protest.

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Send the kkk the bill and when they fail to pay it, send it to collections.

#1 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-28 02:06 AM | Reply

I wish you guys could have been out there to see how stupid and pathetic this was.

#2 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-05-28 05:13 AM | Reply

Some publication did some research into either the people who put this together or perhaps it was the 9 of them who showed up.

Whatever the case they were mostly felons from other states. Indiana mostly.

They were armed and/or in a group of armed people. I don't think felons are allowed to vote in Ohio or Indiana, and I'm certain they aren't allowed to possess firearms.

Both are BS in my opinion.

I mean, if the person isn't safe to vote or own a weapon why are you letting them out of the clink?

Anyway, they could have saved a pile of money by simply enforcing the law. Instead they let armed felons cost them $650,000.

#3 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-05-28 05:19 AM | Reply

#3 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD

When I see someone carrying a gun in public, I always think, 'now there goes a coward'. He is very afraid, that is why he has to be armed.

#4 | Posted by kudzu at 2019-05-28 09:36 AM | Reply

Wow. 9 people showed up? The KKK ain't what it used to be.

#5 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-28 09:47 AM | Reply

9 people? LOL

We used to pile that many into a Ford Pinto to go to concerts.

Not exactly a national emergency.

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-28 09:56 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

--Wow. 9 people showed up? The KKK ain't what it used to be.

So much for the "rising fascist threat." That "big" March on Washington that leftists wrung their hands over got about 20 losers.

#7 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-28 10:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--We used to pile that many into a Ford Pinto to go to concerts.

My crew had a VW van for concert purposes. By the time we arrived a big cloud of marijuana smoke was pouring out.

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-28 10:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

My crew had a VW van for concert purposes. By the time we arrived a big cloud of marijuana smoke was pouring out.

#8 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Is your last name Spicoli?

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-28 10:12 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Indiana? I'd think that the place where the KKK was founded would get more of a turnout. Apparently they think less of their heritage than the average Confederate sympathizer.

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-05-28 11:56 AM | Reply

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Oh. It was Ohio. Nevermind. Maybe the klansmen were afraid the Ohio National Guard was going to show up and open fire.

#11 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-05-28 11:58 AM | Reply

Why?

Why did the police need to "protect" them?

Was there more hatred by those that opposed them? How irrational, gave them international attention they just didn't deserve.

Suppose those nine held a rally and no one cared.

#9 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

More like Cheech and Chong... :-)

#12 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-28 12:02 PM | Reply

I wish you guys could have been out there to see how stupid and pathetic this was.
#2 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD

Why? What kind of over-reactionary idiot would care what the KKK thinks?

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-28 12:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

White Supremacists are one of the biggest threats that the US faces, there are tens of thousands hundreds dozens them!

-the panicky DR Left

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

ridiculous, we all know the kkk gets all the free speech it wants on the DR.

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-28 12:19 PM | Reply

ridiculous, we all know the kkk gets all the free speech it wants on the DR.
#15 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

How specifically? Who usually posts "KKK" threads?

#16 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-28 12:21 PM | Reply

Dayton is one of those towns that does not abide too kindly with minorities and mixed marriages. In other words, "if you ain't white, you ain't right." But the politicians are not stupid.

How are we going to get $650,000 out of the city coffers and spread the wealth? I know! Let's quietly organize a Klan rally, invite a few Klan members to show up in their "glorious" regalia. The community will come to be part of an "historical event" but we'll call them "protesters." Then we'll bring in every police officer and sherrif's deputy available and send the security bill to the city. There's an extra bonus for Christmas 2019.

I lived in Ohio for 8 years. There's no telling what people do there at any given day.

PLUS: I don't think Dayton will be able to do anything any time soon. They were slammed with several tornadoes late yesterday.

Karma...?

#17 | Posted by MisterCarajo at 2019-05-28 12:52 PM | Reply

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to let the counter-protestors just beat em to death?

#18 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-28 12:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

A visual of how pathetic Dayton, Ohio's KKK Memorial Day 2019 rally turned out:

Photo one

Photo two

and perhaps its karmic consequences?

#19 | Posted by MisterCarajo at 2019-05-28 01:23 PM | Reply

Who usually posts "KKK" threads?

POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

#20 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-28 01:28 PM | Reply

Nazi coddlers like to minimize facts like Charlottesville and Storm Front's 300,000 registered members. Not to mention the Second World War and our own America Firsters.

Because they are Nazi coddlers.

www.drudge.com

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-28 02:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Because they are Nazi coddlers.

www.drudge.com

#21 | POSTED BY THE PANICKY DR LEFT AT 2019-05-28 02:42 PM

#22 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 03:01 PM | Reply

--Nazi coddlers like to minimize facts like Charlottesville

"We may have lost the narrative in Dayton, but we'll always have Charlottesville."

#23 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-28 03:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#23

No matter how many times it is pointed out to Dorkus that the ADL estimates that there are fewer than 9,000 Neo-Nazi's in the US and that the SPLC has stopped counting them, he stampedes back to Charlottesville and his Stormer registration numbers as a "security" blanket. Good to see that he is wrapping himself in WWII patriotism as well to help maintain the Narrative.

#24 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 03:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Alligators have killed more people in the US.

#25 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-28 03:17 PM | Reply

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to let the counter-protestors just beat em to death?
#18 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

Now that, Sir. Is hilarious.

I thank you for the laugh.

And I continue to laugh...

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-28 04:07 PM | Reply

#24 |

I remember when lawyers were more about facts than perception. Fact is Storm Front had over 300K registered members... which doesn't include a much higher site access number.

But hey, you joining Sheeple and Dulli as Nazi Coddlers is a surprise to absolutely no one, Mr Lindbergh, Jr. Ya'll enjoy the next Neville Chamberlain Picnic.

I mean, you guys already have your Fascist President... minimizing his lemming count is your job.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-28 04:33 PM | Reply

ridiculous, we all know the kkk gets all the free speech it wants on the DR.
#15 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER
How specifically? Who usually posts "KKK" threads?

#16 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS AT 2019-05-28 12:21 PM | FLAG:

Actually, the strategy is feigned ignorance and extensive downplay of news events related to the kkk.

#28 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-28 04:33 PM | Reply

#27

Here are some facts for you, fearmonger:

"On Saturday, members of the Ku Klux Klan hosted a rally in Dayton, Ohio. The rally was small, and only nine members of the KKK were present."

But, like Nulli says, you will always have Charlottesville.

#29 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 04:39 PM | Reply

Speaking of facts....

"In April of 2014, the Southern Poverty Law Center published a white paper entitled "White Homicide Worldwide" documenting the nearly 100 murders committed by members of Stormfront.

Stormfront had accumulated nearly 300,000 members as of its 20th anniversary as of March 2015. Two months later, that benchmark was officially passed.

This growth in membership seems poised to continue, despite declining Alexa Internet traffic ratings (which measure all visitors, not just registered members), as the majority of the radical right continues to use the Internet as its primary means of activism."

www.splcenter.org

Welcome to the Radical Right.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-28 04:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Stormfront had accumulated nearly 300,000 members

"Though on any given day, fewer than 1,800 registered members log on to Stormfront, and less than half of the site's visitors even reside in the United States"

that's less than 900 active in the US.

- documenting the nearly 100 murders committed by members of Stormfront.

"a two-year study by the Intelligence Report shows that registered Stormfront users have been disproportionately responsible for some of the most lethal hate crimes and mass killings since the site was put up in 1995. In the past five years alone, Stormfront members have murdered close to 100 people. The Report's research shows that Stormfront's bias-related murder rate began to accelerate rapidly in early 2009, after Barack Obama became the nation's first black president. "

100 in 5 years.

#31 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-28 04:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Speaking of facts, the FBI National Gang Report in 2015 listed over 33.000 gangs with 1.5M members who committed an estimated 7,100 murders in 2015.

Welcome to reality, not some website registration statistics.

#32 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 04:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Alligators and sharks kill more in the US. than StormFoot

MS-13 kills hundreds per year, but the SPLC won't discuss them.

archives.fbi.gov
"MS-13 operates in at least 42 states and the District of Columbia and has about 6,000-10,000 members nationwide. Currently, the threat is highest in the western and northeastern parts of the country, which coincides with elevated Salvadoran immigrant populations in those areas. In the southeast and central regions, the current threat is moderate to low, but recently, we've seen an influx of MS-13 members into the southeast, causing an increase in violent crimes there."

dailycaller.com
"According to a study done in February by the Center for Immigration Study, 506 MS-13 members were arrested or charged with crimes that were reported in 22 states since 2012, and 207 of them were arrested for murder. 38 of those arrested for murder specified that they were in the country illegally."

#33 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-28 04:58 PM | Reply

#32 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Corky doesn't care about gangs or thousands of murders.

He only cares about his nazi narrative. and smearing Trump.

#34 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-28 04:59 PM | Reply

Swallowtrumpsjism suits up in defense of the Grand Wizard of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

#35 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-05-28 05:02 PM | Reply

The attempts to take psycho groups like stormfront or the KKK and attach them to the right just doesn't work.

It's entertaining....but it doesn't work.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-28 05:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The attempts to take psycho groups like stormfront or the KKK and attach them to the right just doesn't work.
#36 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Sure it does. Do you think members of stormfront and the KKK voted for Hillary or Trump?

McCain or Obama?

Is it just a coincidence that Republican policies, and typically solely Republican policies, are supported by these individuals?

#37 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-28 05:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

EBERLY -

Whelp, I just stepped in it:

Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon Will Quigg Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

www.usnews.com

So there's one, I guess.

#38 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-28 05:28 PM | Reply

37

I don't understand. Who they vote for (if they vote) is relevant how?

I believe morons like -------- think if you post threads like this it will fool folks into voting for a democrat when they otherwise wouldn't have.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-28 05:28 PM | Reply

I don't understand. Who they vote for (if they vote) is relevant how?

Affiliation.

I believe morons like -------- think if you post threads like this it will fool folks into voting for a democrat when they otherwise wouldn't have.
#39 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I'm unsure how that computes.

#40 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-28 05:30 PM | Reply

--Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon Will Quigg Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

Hillary had all kinds of whackjob followers. She was a uniter, not a divider.

Communist Party Leader Voted for Sanders, Will Back Clinton

www.usnews.com

Does all this mean anything? Probably not.

#41 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-28 05:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

dailycaller.com
"According to a study done in February by the Center for Immigration Study, 506 MS-13 members were arrested or charged with crimes that were reported in 22 states since 2012, and 207 of them were arrested for murder. 38 of those arrested for murder specified that they were in the country illegally."
#33 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Any chance that study points out what those stats are when controlling for location (i.e., sanctuary cities versus not)?

In the United States, MS-13 cliques similarly seek to extort recent immigrants fleeing the very violence the gang has wrecked at home. Yet facing a much more effective police response, their efforts to organize anything approaching a unified structure have met with infighting and arrests. MS-13's reputation for violence drives lurid headlines and enhances its brand, but these headlines obscure its marginal status in the world of organized crime: Of the 114,434 people arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement's gang unit last year, just 429 were MS-13 members. As the head of the Northern Virginia Gang Task Force has stated, "the vast majority of their crimes are gang-on-gang," echoing Senate testimony by Montgomery County, Md.'s police chief that most of their violence is motivated by "perceived or actual rival gang affiliations," as well as members turning informant, or potential members resisting recruitment efforts.
www.washingtonpost.com

Take a look at LAPD, they support the sanctuary city/state policies because it influences MS-13 victims (read: illegal immigrants) to cooperate with law enforcement, which just so happens to be one of the most efficient means of combating crime.

#42 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-28 05:49 PM | Reply

Who knew? Sending mixed messages is so expensive.

#43 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-05-28 06:32 PM | Reply

but it doesn't work.

#36 | Posted by eberly

Because the loonies on the right attach themselves to them without our help?

Steve King calls himself a Nationalist. But, he is not a White Nationalist? Even though he IS White and calls himself a Nationalist?

We did not attach that label. He proudly attached it to himself.

Like our Dear Leader Humpy Trumpy...

"You know, they have a word. It sort of became old-fashioned. It's called a nationalist," Trump said in Houston last year. "And I say, 'Really, we're not supposed to use that word?' You know what I am? I'm a nationalist. ... Use that word."

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-28 07:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Because the loonies on the right attach themselves to them without our help?

Of course but you may not understand the point.

Folks that are on the right but aren't racists aren't shamed like you hope they are when you push this narrative.

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-28 08:43 PM | Reply

Speaking of facts, the FBI National Gang Report in 2015 listed over 33.000 gangs with 1.5M members who committed an estimated 7,100 murders in 2015.
Welcome to reality, not some website registration statistics.

#32 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-05-28 04:55 PM | REPLY |

7,100 gang murders? I think not

ucr.fbi.gov

FBI says 792 lumping gangland and juvenile gangs together

#46 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-28 09:08 PM | Reply

"100 in 5 years."

Thats more than one every three weeks.

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-28 10:10 PM | Reply

#47 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Sounds like a lot. Are you concerned about other groups that kill even more?

Or are you just laser focused on one specific group for one specific purpose?

#48 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-28 10:31 PM | Reply

"Sounds like a lot."

It does.

"Are you concerned about other groups that kill even more?"

Per capita? Sure. Does that mean I shouldn't care about Skinheads until they get into first place?

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-28 10:36 PM | Reply

#46

Understand the tables before you post:

Gangland and juvenile gang murders are listed under "other than felony type", nearly 40% of the 13K murders are unsolved and there is no breakout on the felony type murders.

The National Gang Center estimates that almost 13% of gun related homocides (non-suicide) in the US are gang related, and that doesn't include stabbings, vehicular homicide and "other". According to the NGC, there were over 7100 gang related deaths in 2017.

Nice try though.

#50 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 10:51 PM | Reply

"9 people? LOL
We used to pile that many into a Ford Pinto to go to concerts.
Not exactly a national emergency.
#6 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-05-28 09:56 AM"

Actually, that would be nine people willing to be part of a public demonstration supporting the KKK.

The error is in thinking there are only nine KKK members and/or sympathizers in the Dayton area. Just like rats and cockroaches: If you see one, be assured there are MANY more!

#51 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-05-29 01:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

According to the NGC, there were over 7100 gang related deaths in 2017.

You said 2015. I posted the direct link to the FBI stats. You can only get to 7100 if you assume ALL of the unknown reason cases were gang related which is an assumption you cannot make. The number I gave included every weapon type. My numbers are on the FBI Stats page your numbers are fake news

#52 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-29 07:09 AM | Reply

The attempts to take psycho groups like stormfront or the KKK and attach them to the right just doesn't work.
It's entertaining....but it doesn't work.

#36 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2019-05-28 05:10 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Get out of the bubble

#53 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-29 09:50 AM | Reply

-- Get out of the bubble

Leave the retort? Who would want to do that?

#54 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-29 09:53 AM | Reply

53

what does that mean? what bubble am I in now?

you can't shame people with accusations of racism. You can't make 9 million people feel bad because they might vote for the same folks these 9 KKK members do.

what's my proof? look at the guy living in the WH.

It

doesn't

work

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-29 10:05 AM | Reply

It

doesn't

work

#55 | POSTED BY EBERLY

The guy in the White House is a racist. He has "attached" himself by not distancing himself. If you place no distance between you and evil then YOU are probably evil. It's not that Humpy fears evil. Humpy IS evil. So evil is attracted to him. And he does not disagree with it or fight it. Just like he has done with Russia's interference in our elections. Maybe there is no evidence of "collusion " (not a crime!) but plenty evidence of cooperation.

Take the money out of the wall budget. Or Nullo and Sherp and all the Deplorables the bill.

#56 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-29 11:41 AM | Reply

-If you place no distance between you and evil then YOU are probably evil

what does that mean? are you saying anybody who voted for a republican, including trump, in the 2016 election....is EVIL?

#57 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-29 12:00 PM | Reply

www.nytimes.com

Eberly, Donnerboy is right. Evil is attracted to evil.

Spock: It was far easier for you as civilized men to act as barbarians, than for them as barbarians to act like civilized men.

#58 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-05-29 12:15 PM | Reply

58

well, ----- grabbers and racists love to hang out together, for sure.

#59 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-29 12:21 PM | Reply

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to let the counter-protestors just beat em to death?

#18 | POSTED BY Comrade Pinto

Then there would be 9 less of YOUR KIND walking the earth.

#60 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-29 02:04 PM | Reply

Set aside $100,000 for a private contractor to set up his barricades and traffic control cones.That leaves enough to pay 229 cops $100 an hour for twenty four hours. GMAFB Either someone is lying, hopelessly corrupt or dumb as a rock.

#61 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-30 08:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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