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Tuesday, July 16, 2019

On the eve of the Apollo 11 anniversary, LEGO asked The Harris Poll to survey a total of 3,000 children in the United States, China, and the United Kingdom about their attitudes toward and knowledge of space.

The results reveal that, at least for Western countries, kids today are more interested in YouTube than spaceflight. Asked what they would like to be when they grow up, about 3 in 10 American and British children replied that they wanted to be YouTubers or Vloggers -- careers making videos on the Internet for fame and fortune. Lesser preferences included becoming a teacher, professional athlete, or musician. Becoming an astronaut ranked last, at 11%.

Only in China did children have a clear preference for being an astronaut -- or rather, a taikonaut -- over other potential professions. Children in China were also much more interested in going into space and had higher expectations for human settlement of space in the decades to come.

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Interesting chart of the results in the cited article.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-16 10:29 AM | Reply

Unless something drastic happens, America is past it's peak.

Unless our course is changed, the US's power and influence will likely sunset in my lifetime.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-16 10:34 AM | Reply


@#2 ... America is past it's peak. ...

Channeling Pres Trump again? ;)

My lame attempts at humor aside...

Even MAGA has the word "again" in it, implying "it was, but isn't."

Science (and exploring the unknown) seem to be anathema to the current crop of Republicans, they do everything they can to stifle it.

In that environment, why should our children want to take part in scientific discovery?


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-16 10:48 AM | Reply

Drink more Coke. Watch more Reality TV like "Love Island".

Science? Wassat?

#4 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-16 10:59 AM | Reply

Science (and exploring the unknown) seem to be anathema to the current crop of Republicans, they do everything they can to stifle it.

In that environment, why should our children want to take part in scientific discovery?

I agree completely but I think that that idea is too lofty to be a significant driver of our current epidemic of anti-intellectualism or low sighted goals for younger kids.

We've become a society obsessed with easy riches and that's about as deep an explanation needed for my pessimism.

We'll continue to brag about what discoveries are made in the US by US researchers/companies but I think our preeminence is slipping away.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-16 11:02 AM | Reply

Dumbass millenials and gen xers give their kids smartphones before they can read and write and are surprised?

#6 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-16 11:03 AM | Reply

Could this possibly be due to exposure to the internet? I would imagine kids in China have more limited access to the internet. Give them access to Minecraft and stampy videos and things might change.

#7 | Posted by Pirate at 2019-07-16 11:27 AM | Reply

I would imagine kids in China have more limited access to the internet.

WHAT????

LOL... they have BETTER access to the internet.

It's just that their internet is a lot different than our internet.

Go to Billi-Bille (Chinese Youtube)... it's full of cartoons and stuff. And games.

#8 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-16 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I have noticed this trend in about 2013, when my niece pointed out there are an enormous amount of views for makeup videos.

Since then she's made youtube videos for various "brands" before the brands are big, its a tough business according to her, but she's making money.

We've become a society obsessed with easy riches and that's about as deep an explanation needed for my pessimism.
We'll continue to brag about what discoveries are made in the US by US researchers/companies but I think our preeminence is slipping away.
#5 | POSTED BY JPW

I agree, but have you run this further? Do you think its explains why the current Millennials want socialism?

How does more "socialism" create better researchers or companies? Socialism, for lack of a better word, satiates people, they don't excel because they don't need too.

Just trying to understand your thinking, and most liberals condemning this, because it appears to me to be disjointed, or a cognitive dissonance.

#9 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-16 12:34 PM | Reply

The problem is the now far too fluid meaning of the word socialism.

I agree, but have you run this further? Do you think its explains why the current Millennials want socialism?

No. The desire for a more equitable distribution of resources and wealth is because the majority are getting hammered and cheated by the minority.

The amount of effort put in for the majority does not translate to the rewards reaped. It's really that simple.

How does more "socialism" create better researchers or companies?

Drop socialism and the loaded connotations that come with it and it's an easy question to answer.

Namely, that there are tons and tons of research topics that require a lack of profit motive to expand and pursue. Knowledge for the sake of knowledge is required before ever a product for marketing and profit can be conceived. That is what publicly funded research excels at and it's the base of the pyramid that allows private industry to move as fast as it does and provide products/treatments/innovations as rapidly as it can.

Socialism, for lack of a better word, satiates people, they don't excel because they don't need too.

Very very few are advocating for that type of socialism. Nobody wants the US to become the next USSR.

or a cognitive dissonance

Like I said, drop the socialism angle and it's much easier.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-16 01:05 PM | Reply

Drop socialism and the loaded connotations that come with it...

#10 | POSTED BY JPW

Yes. This, please.

It's becoming a meaningless term due to it's malleable usage.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-07-16 01:09 PM | Reply

"It's becoming a meaningless term due to it's malleable usage."

Oh I get it.
When everything is socialist, nothing is socialist!
Am I doing this right?

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-16 01:11 PM | Reply

"Do you think its explains why the current Millennials want socialism?"

Here is why Millennials want socialism:

Because they were born into a world where, "Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."

They want socialism because the trajectory Capitalism has taken over the past four and a half decades leaves 4 in 5 households behind.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-16 01:14 PM | Reply

It's just that their internet is a lot different than our internet.

Exactly. Censorship.

Is it possible to access YouTube in China? Whether you just want to watch YouTube videos or you need to upload YouTube videos while you're in China, your biggest challenge is internet censorship. YouTube is blocked in China. So how do you access YouTube in China with enough speed to minimize buffering? Continue reading to learn more.

www.travelchinacheaper.com

So it's no surprise that kids don't want to be YouTubers when access to a lot of social media is blocked.

#14 | Posted by Pirate at 2019-07-16 01:15 PM | Reply

#12

Yep

#15 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-07-16 01:17 PM | Reply

Can I get a Yep for #13 as well?

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-16 01:21 PM | Reply

Nope.

:-)

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-07-16 01:24 PM | Reply

This is so dumb.
You know why we didn't want to be a YouTubers when we were kids?
Because there was no YouTube.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-16 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

JeffJ why do you think Millennials are clamoring for socialism?
And, more to the point, why isn't it because they were born into an economy that leaves 4 in 5 households behind?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-16 02:08 PM | Reply

>>why do you think Millennials are clamoring for socialism?
#19

Student loans have to be high on that list.
You start off your life doing everything they told you to do, go off to school, then the reality slowly sinks in: you were sold a bag of crushing debt that will hang around your head for a good chunk of your life.

#20 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-07-16 02:34 PM | Reply

This is so dumb.
You know why we didn't want to be a YouTubers when we were kids?
Because there was no YouTube.

#18 | Posted by snoofy

Same goes for China.

But yet the kids there still aim for more than fame and fortune.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-16 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

America's adults would rather elect Trump than retrain or move to find work. Loser adults raise loser children.

#22 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-16 03:15 PM | Reply

What a bunch of lazy turds.

#23 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-07-16 03:16 PM | Reply

"Dumbass millenials"

"Bunch of lazy turds"

Um, did any of you try to become astronauts?

#24 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-07-16 03:39 PM | Reply

Comrade Nulli was going to be English teacher, but then he realized he only spoke ‘merican.

#25 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-07-16 10:41 PM | Reply

Exactly. Censorship.

Yes they block YouTube.

But look what they replaced it with. More crap.

www.bilibili.com

Bili-bili is often called the Chinese Youtube even though there is more than one service that calls itself that.

#26 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-16 10:52 PM | Reply

Just because they block YouTube, is not the answer to why their kids want to be scientists and engineers. They have replaced YouTube with plenty of crap of their own.

The answer is, in Chinese culture, scientists... and even more than scientists... engineers and people who make things.. "Makers"... are given enormous respect.

It's as simple as that.

I Pakistani Senator asked the Chinese "what are you all about... what makes Chinese culture going.. what makes you tick".... they gave a simple answer, "We like making things".

They said, "American civilization finds ways to become rich. That makes them tick. European civilizations have always tried to find ways to bring comfort and beauty to life (often by going to war). We? We just makes things. And if we can make them bigger, we are happier!" (this conversation took place during a tour of the 3 Gorges Dam).

#27 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-16 11:01 PM | Reply

Also understand that most of Asia has too many people. Perhaps, in the back of their minds, they see space colonization as a chance to get away from it all?

#28 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-16 11:11 PM | Reply

We just make things. And if we can make them bigger, we are happier!

For example, America can't do THIS:

youtu.be

The South-to-North Water Diversion Project is a key strategic infrastructure project for China to alleviate water shortage in its northern provinces. With its eastern, central and western routes, the project links China's four main rivers -- the Yellow River, the Huaihe River, the Haihe River, and the Yangtze River. The project has set multiple new world records, including its construction scale, water diversion distance, population benefited, population resettlement, and complexity of engineering.

A total of 22.2 billion cubic meters of water has been diverted through the eastern and central routes of the South-to-North Water Diversion Project so far.

The project has improved the water supply of cities along the route, which has already become a major water source for over 40 large and medium cities in Beijing, Tianjin, Hebei province, Henan province and Shandong province,benefiting hundreds of millions of people.

#29 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-16 11:16 PM | Reply

Vast artificial lakes and rivers...

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#30 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-17 12:05 AM | Reply

--Science (and exploring the unknown) seem to be anathema to the current crop of Republicans, they do everything they can to stifle it.

Yeah, we need the Left in charge. That'll help!

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"It requires mathematics teachers to reflect on their own identity, positions, and beliefs in regards to racist and sorting-based mechanisms. It involves noticing students, learning about the worlds they live in, and building mathematics that comes from these worlds. And finally, it involves engaging other educators in partnerships to build equity-oriented communities."

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#31 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-17 12:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

It's becoming a meaningless term due to it's malleable usage.
#11 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

No its not ...

Warren's proposition is top down socialism .. look it up ....

#32 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-17 12:23 AM | Reply

Like I said, drop the socialism angle and it's much easier.
#10 | POSTED BY JPW

For you ... I am sure it is ... it really is denial on your part.

#33 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-17 12:24 AM | Reply

#33 denialism...

Lol sure thing moron. You don't seem to know what the word means, it's just knee jerk blather brought on by the right wing "news"-induced brain rot.

In any case it's no surprise you just dismissed my answers. Actually thinking about them would have meant your questions were genuine.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-17 08:11 AM | Reply

Because they were born into a world where, "Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."

They want socialism because the trajectory Capitalism has taken over the past four and a half decades leaves 4 in 5 households behind.

#13 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-07-16 01:14 PM | FLAG: Yet new millionaires are created in this country every year by their drive and determination. We are not in a caste system and many people rise from the lower class to the middle and from the middle to the upper. [Conversely, there are those who also drop from upper down to middle, etc.].

#35 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-07-17 12:12 PM | Reply

In any case it's no surprise you just dismissed my answers.

I didn't dismiss them I find them unfounded, Socialism is what every Democrat is proposing ...

There is a term in political science known as TopDownSocialism, where the Authoritarian State directs the "Socialism"
en.wikipedia.org

It is what every Democrat is proposing from Healthcare, College, Control of corporations.

I find it hilarious Leftist are trying to disallow words and phrases, like "Open Borders", and "Socialism".

They want socialism because the trajectory Capitalism has taken over the past four and a half decades leaves 4 in 5 households behind.

Yet you ignore the reasons it hasn't moved since 1975. Hint: it has everything to do with the free movement of unskilled labor into the US.

The GINI coefficient equation is pretty clear how inequality occurs.

#36 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-17 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I didn't dismiss them I find them unfounded, Socialism is what every Democrat is proposing ...

So wait, Nordic countries are socialist now?

I kept hearing they're capitalist with strong safety nets.

Do you disagree with this or are you just back to making stuff up to fit your definitions?

I find it hilarious Leftist are trying to disallow words and phrases, like "Open Borders", and "Socialism".

No, we're disallowing the constantly shifting definitions you turds come up with to justify your increasingly unhinged claims about libruls.

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-17 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I find it hilarious Leftist are trying to disallow words and phrases, like "Open Borders", and "Socialism"."

What is sad is the Deplorables constant attempts to redefine and use those words against Democrats.

Democrats are not for and never were for your definition of "open borders" or "socialism".. at least not the way you lunatics are trying to define them.

If by open borders you mean open to international trade and respect for international law. Yes. Dems are obviously for that.

Aren't you? Isn't everyone?

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-17 03:11 PM | Reply

"Yet you ignore the reasons it hasn't moved since 1975. Hint: it has everything to do with the free movement of unskilled labor into the US."

There were 10.5 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2017, representing 3.2% of the total U.S. population that year.
Can I see your math on how that 3.2% of the population is holding back 80% of American households?
Thanks!

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-17 04:07 PM | Reply

Why become an astronaut?

When someone attempts the almost impossible and succeeds, others try it. Soon, more people follow suit, and succeed.

Going to the moon. Man steps on it.

Why has no one else gone to the moon and stepped on it?

The desire to do a repeat exists for everything...but the moon.

What is holding anyone, any country, from going to the moon?

Honestly, just doing the space thing has no 'wow'. The moon would be a great thing to do again. No incentive if the goal sucks.

#40 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-07-17 06:52 PM | Reply

we're disallowing the constantly shifting definitions you turds come up with to justify your increasingly unhinged claims about libruls.

Democrats are not for and never were for your definition of "open borders" or "socialism".. at least not the way you lunatics are trying to define them.

By us "lunatics trying to define them" you must mean how we insist on using their traditional definitions:

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/

noun
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

open bor·der

noun
a situation in which goods and people can enter and leave a country easily.

#41 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-07-17 07:09 PM | Reply

Why has no one else gone to the moon and stepped on it?

There was no point to it.

NOW however, we are getting the tech necessary for colonization. Like 3D printing huge structures from Lunar soil turned into glue and cement.

It's all about who can live there and have a base.

#42 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-18 12:33 AM | Reply

Having said that, a lunar colony will be most likely underground. Being on the surface won't be healthy without the protection of Earth's anti-radiation magnetic bubble.

#43 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-18 12:35 AM | Reply

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