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Republicans are steamrolling Democrats on judges. But the question of whether to be as cutthroat as the GOP is already splitting the party as the 2020 campaign ramps up.

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All of Cheetolini's other BS aside, the Judiciary is where we will continue to feel his impact long after he is in jail.

We have a real prospect of taking over the Senate in 2020 and starting to erase all the harm that 4 years of Trump nominations will have caused, this is where the real fight for our soul will ultimately take place.

#1 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2019-07-22 04:21 PM | Reply

"We just hope the better angels of our nature will prevail."

They've been non-existent since 2016, boys. Lying, crying, tears and lies is all the Dems are left with. And Zed.

#2 | Posted by Spork at 2019-07-22 06:56 PM | Reply

Lying, crying, tears and lies is all the Dems are left with. And Zed.

#2 | Posted by Spork

Yeah the left are such liars.

Remember when obama said he wouldnt play any golf as president, he'd hire all the best people, he had no business in russia, he wouldnt benefit from the tax cuts for the rich, he never paid stormy daniels, his campaign had no contacts with russians, he only got a 1 million dollar loan from his dad, he'd release his tax returns after the election, and he had a secret plan for better cheaper healthcare?

That was obama wasn't it?

#3 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-22 08:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 5

Show me some balls!!

#4 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-07-22 09:52 PM | Reply

Is this meant as a joke? The GOP for the most part has installed non-political judges. On any single issue - you don't know how the USSC will rule BECAUSE of the GOP appointees. We know 100% how the Dems appointed judges will vote - because the Dems install 100% political judges. So, yeah - there is such a thing as "Obama Judges" - they are incompetent partisans. If anything, the GOP and Trump are bringing back impartiality to the justice system. Sad really.

#5 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-07-22 10:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 6

McConnell's revenge over Bork has been relentless. The Republocrats are destroying the country everything it stands for, its manufacturing base, the cost of living, pollution, weapons of mass destruction. Where is an American Mandella when we need it.

#6 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-07-22 10:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"The Republocrats are destroying the country everything it stands for, its manufacturing base, the cost of living, pollution, weapons of mass destruction.
#6 | POSTED BY BAYVIKING"

Are you living life in reverse since 2016? Everything you said is patently false post-Trump. Manufacturing jobs are coming back, wage gains are finally outpacing inflation, and NO NEW WARS + ending the war vs. ISIS. Seriously, your grasp on reality seems tenuous at best.

#7 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-07-22 10:40 PM | Reply

Nothing says 22 trillion dollar paydown better than a one flag parade on the lunar surface.

#8 | Posted by LesWit at 2019-07-22 10:57 PM | Reply

One of the most interesting plans I've heard for the Court. Expand it to 27 or possibly more. It would reduce partisanship influence on the court and allow the Court to hear more cases/get more done.

time.com

#9 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-07-22 11:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9 While i'd like to see the SC work faster, i'm reluctant to say they should be taking more cases.

#10 | Posted by JOE at 2019-07-22 11:28 PM | Reply

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Is this meant as a joke? The GOP for the most part has installed non-political judges.

#5 | Posted by iragoldberg

That is the exact opposite from the truth.

theweek.com

The federalist society finds the most partisan republican judges in the country and tells trump to nominate them and he obeys.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-22 11:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The GOP for the most part has installed non-political judges.

Jesus christ, can everyone just plonk this obvious troll and stop reposting his comments?

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2019-07-22 11:47 PM | Reply

"Is Trump on board?
More than any president before him. Back in early 2016, then-candidate Trump was still struggling to convince Republican voters that he would nominate a conservative thoroughbred to replace Scalia, who had just died. His top campaign lawyer and eventual White House counsel, Donald McGahn, asked Leonard Leo, executive vice president of the Federalist Society, for suggestions; all but one of the names on Trump's list of 25 candidates were society members, including Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. Trump's decision to release that list won over social conservatives, said Republican strategist Scott Reed. "It was a brilliant strategy," he says, "and it worked.""

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-22 11:47 PM | Reply

"#11 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

That simply is untrue. Left appointed judges rule in lockstep. This was from 2014, most recent I could find.

Ginsburg + Kagan = 93%
Ginsburg + Sotomayor = 90%
Sotomayor + Kagan = 94%

Basically, the only times Ginsburg disagreed is when she was not radical enough. We all know that the libs judge shop on the 9th circuit for Obama judges when they want a favorable ruling - why pretend otherwise?

As for the GOP - Kennedy was a GOP appointee and he was middle of the road as the are, Roberts was a GOP appointee and gave us Obamacare. Most recently:

"Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump's two Supreme Court appointees, disagreed more in their first term than any such pairing since Kennedy was president." www.cnbc.com

Truly - you are living in an alternate reality populated by alternate facts if you believe the crap you just posted.

#14 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-07-23 12:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 2

IRA cannot site any proof manufacturing is back. Employment in that peaked in 1978 at 19 million jobs. Anybody that believes the nonsense coming out of the orange sloth is brain dead.

#15 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-07-23 12:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This was from 2014, most recent I could find.

You don't know where to look and the stats you produced seem misleading or cherry picked when compared to more detailed stats for 2014. Try here for in-depth USSC statistics that go back for years. www.scotusblog.com

We all know that the libs judge shop on the 9th circuit ...

Circuit panels are by random assignment. So too are district court case assignments. Don't get me wrong, judge shopping happens but it's hit and miss unless it's a single district judge division.

#16 | Posted by et_al at 2019-07-23 01:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"IRA cannot site any proof manufacturing is back.
#15 | POSTED BY BAYVIKING"

You must live in the same alternate universe with alternate facts as Speaks because your claim is 100% BS. Did you even try Google before writing your nonsense?

this is 6 months old but....

The U.S. has added 454,000 manufacturing jobs since Trump took office in January 2017, some of the biggest gains in twenty years, according to jobs data.

source: www.nbcnews.com

"Over the past two years, with the encouragement of the Trump Administration's red-tape cutting policies and the tax cut and reform law passed in December 2017, manufacturers added 467,000 jobs, more than six times the 73,000 manufacturing jobs added in Obama's last two years."

source: www.forbes.com

#17 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-07-23 01:20 AM | Reply

#17

"the stats you produced seem misleading or cherry picked"

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-23 01:21 AM | Reply

"Circuit panels are by random assignment. So too are district court case assignments. Don't get me wrong, judge shopping happens but it's hit and miss unless it's a single district judge division.
#16 | POSTED BY ET_AL "

When the entire court is packed with mindless liberal drones, shopping for the judge is less important than shopping for the district. Just like all IP cases are brought to East Texas, all liberal activists run to the 9th when they want their decision - which is why it it overturned so much. The 9th has been a joke since Carter packed it with radical liberals. So, again, any whining by Democrats about the courts is laughable in the face of the actual evidence - as I already posted.

#19 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-07-23 01:24 AM | Reply

"#18 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

NBC? US government jobs reports? Stop with the 'feelings' and just stick with the facts. Your emotional arguments don't belong in a rationale discussion.

#20 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-07-23 01:27 AM | Reply

... all liberal activists run to the 9th ...

Conservative activists run to the Fifth, or Eleventh or Fourth or ...

... why [the Ninth is] overturned so much.

Study those stats up there and you'll find some context that explains why that is tired, misleading talking point.

#21 | Posted by et_al at 2019-07-23 01:45 AM | Reply

#21 | POSTED BY ET_AL

Do you have a Retort 'Bat Phone' that lights up when you're needed, or is it a super power?

#22 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-23 07:18 AM | Reply

"Do you have a Retort 'Bat Phone' that lights up when you're needed
#22 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM"

That would be one phone that is never, ever used. ET_AL is needed like a bad case of herpes is needed. He is more akin to an unwanted flare up.

#23 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-07-23 08:45 AM | Reply

Here's my "judge challenge" to Democrats on the DR. Name all the moderates appointed by a Democrat to the SCOTUS in the last 50 years. Now do the same for Republicans. Get back to me with your results.

#24 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-23 09:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Truly - you are living in an alternate reality populated by alternate facts if you believe the crap you just posted.

#14 | Posted by iragoldberg

True or false moron: Trump choosing his judges from a list provided by the federalist society.

T or F?

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-23 11:01 AM | Reply

Here's my "judge challenge" to Democrats on the DR. Name all the moderates appointed by a Democrat to the SCOTUS in the last 50 years. Now do the same for Republicans. Get back to me with your results.

#24 | Posted by MUSTANG

Here's a better challenge: name all the republicans presidents who were deprived of a supreme court nomination because a democrat senate simply decided to deny it?

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-23 11:02 AM | Reply

"The GOP for the most part has installed non-political judges."

Laughable.

Mitch doesn't roll that way.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-07-23 11:05 AM | Reply

#26 It's not a better question, but if you'll answer mine tit-for-tat, I'll answer yours.

Zero. And for the record, I disapproved when they did that, right here on the DR.

Your turn.

#28 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-23 11:11 AM | Reply

Name all the moderates appointed by a Democrat to the SCOTUS in the last 50 years.

Merrick Garland
Stephen Breyer
Abe Fortas
Thurgood Marshall
Byron White
And that's using the American standard of what constitutes a "moderate;" in most first-world countries these would be center-right leaning justices.

Now do the same for Republicans.
David Souter
Anthony Kennedy
Sandra Day O'Connor

#29 | Posted by JOE at 2019-07-23 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Zero. And for the record, I disapproved when they did that, right here on the DR.

#28 | Posted by MUSTANG

Yeah you disapproved so hard that you voted straight R in the next election. That'll show em.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-23 11:30 AM | Reply

"Yeah you disapproved so hard that you voted straight R in the next election. That'll show em."

Ahhh, the JeffJ Payback. A classic.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-07-23 11:38 AM | Reply

--Yeah you disapproved so hard that you voted straight R in the next election

Yeah, as if you wouldn't vote straight D because of one issue. Laughable.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-23 11:46 AM | Reply

Admirable try, Joe, but Garland didn't make it, Marshall was 52 years ago AND was historically one of the most liberal Supremes, and White was appointed almost 60 years ago.

That leaves Fortas and Breyer, with Breyer actually having about the same voting propensity as Souter, and Fortas almost as far left as Marshall. So...1. Breyer.

You also failed to identify Roberts, which means there are 4 easily identifiable moderates appointed by Republicans.

en.wikipedia.org

#33 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-23 11:58 AM | Reply

#30 Nope. Voted (L).

#34 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-23 11:59 AM | Reply

Yeah, as if you wouldn't vote straight D because of one issue. Laughable.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian

I didn't. But I didn't vote for any candidates who don't believe in climate change or believe in debunked trickle down economics. So who does that leave?

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-23 12:50 PM | Reply

#30 Nope. Voted (L).

#34 | Posted by MUSTANG

For prez. Then voted for a ton of downticket Rs who were happy to thwart the founders intentions on the supreme court.

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-23 12:52 PM | Reply

Admirable try, Joe, but Garland didn't make it

You said "nominated," bot "confirmed."

Marshall was 52 years ago AND was historically one of the most liberal Supremes, and White was appointed almost 60 years ago.

I'll concede to not realizing how old i am. For some reason i still feel like 1960 was only 40 years ago.

#37 | Posted by JOE at 2019-07-23 03:46 PM | Reply

Bot=not

#38 | Posted by JOE at 2019-07-23 03:47 PM | Reply

You also failed to identify Roberts

Roberts is not a moderate. The fact that he doesn't blindly accept every terrible argument the federalist society manages to bring before the supreme court does not make him a moderate.

#39 | Posted by JOE at 2019-07-23 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How about the recently departed Stevens?

He was actually a quite liberal justice who was appointed by a Republican.

#40 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-07-23 11:34 PM | Reply

For some reason i still feel like 1960 was only 40 years ago.

#37 | POSTED BY JOE

It's kind of depressing, actually.

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-07-23 11:34 PM | Reply

#40 I wouldn't call Stevens a "moderate" despite the oddity of him having been appointed by a Republican.

I do wonder if we'll ever see another Stevens-type justice in oue lifetime, who cuts so strongly against the ideology of his appointer. I always found that fascinating.

It's kind of depressing, actually.

Agred, but i usually just laugh when i realize there's about two decades i don't really count.

#42 | Posted by JOE at 2019-07-23 11:43 PM | Reply

I do wonder if we'll ever see another Stevens-type justice in oue lifetime, who cuts so strongly against the ideology of his appointer. I always found that fascinating....

#42 | POSTED BY JOE

It will really depend on how the court adjudicates over the next decade or so. If we see a lot of narrowly written opinions which forces issues back into the public realm for congress to tackle, I think we might. If the court continues to act as a super-legislator as it increasingly has ever the past few decades, although markedly less so with the Roberts court (Oberfelg notwithstanding), then I think it could happen because the stakes wouldn't be so high.

#43 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-07-23 11:59 PM | Reply

Lying, crying, tears and lies is all the Dems are left with. And Zed.

#2 | Posted by Spork

Agreed...for 60 years they were happy driving around Washington DC in their little clown cars.

Times are changing, and their little clown cars are stuck in a ditch spinning their little wheels...

But how dare you criticize them or their selected judges! That's That's racist...

Naming calling is ALL they got left as they desperately cling to power come 2020..

We'll miss seeing those little clown cars..

#44 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-07-24 06:39 AM | Reply

Yes,IRA, there are ups and downs in manufacturing even today, as always,but can you grasp the fact that 19 million is bigger than 13 million and a 467,000 gain doesn't change that fact. Anybody that takes seriously what the orange sloth says and does is dumber than a homemade radio.

#45 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-07-24 11:32 AM | Reply

Vengeance - definitely a dem 'quality'.

#46 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-07-24 12:56 PM | Reply

"Liberals and centrists are debating whether to embrace the GOP's hard-line approach or restore the historic bipartisan traditions of the Senate."

Hmm.

On one hand, it's easy for the Dems to justify following suit. The advantage in not doing so may be that they're viewed as the grown-ups in the room. Given the alarming absence of grown-ups at the moment, that might be a bold move.

Martin Luther King fought violence explicitly with non-violence...and won.

#47 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-07-24 01:58 PM | Reply

Conservatives hated MLK when he was alive for daring to speak up for the millions of people, white and black, conservatives oppress. But after he was murdered, under the ever present watchful eye of the FBI, they embrace him and name streets after him all over the country.

#48 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-07-24 04:46 PM | Reply

"The Republocrats are destroying the country everything it stands for, its manufacturing base, the cost of living, pollution, weapons of mass destruction.
#6 | POSTED BY BAYVIKING"
Are you living life in reverse since 2016? Everything you said is patently false post-Trump. Manufacturing jobs are coming back, wage gains are finally outpacing inflation, and NO NEW WARS + ending the war vs. ISIS. Seriously, your grasp on reality seems tenuous at best.

#7 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Naive or Stupid? ...I can't tell....

Obama brought back 900,000 manufacturing jobs. 170,000 in the last 6 months of his presidency. Trump has had to pay for them to come back with Tax Cuts.
Wages outpaced inflation under Obama. Despite Trump giving away trillions in tax cuts, the best wage growth measured with inflation we've had on record was back under Obama in August, 2016.
Obama didn't start any wars either. Didn't invade anyone. The war on ISIS isn't over either. They just moved countries.

I'm going to guess IRA is stupid rather than naive. An 8th Grader with Google could figure this stuff out.

#49 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-07-24 06:33 PM | Reply

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