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Wednesday, July 24, 2019

On 1 July, Missy Cole was notified by her bank that her husband's most recent paycheck had bounced, leaving their account more than $1,000 in the red. Her husband had worked as a coalminer for nearly three years at one of the eastern Kentucky mines operated by Revelation Energy affiliate Blackjewel mining.

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Blackjewel is the third large US coal company to declare bankruptcy since May 2019, despite promises from Donald Trump that he would save the coal industry and its jobs.

Everything the bloated------------ touches dies.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-07-24 06:51 AM | Reply

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Following Following @realDonaldTrump

The Great State of West Virginia is producing record setting numbers and doing really well. When I became President, it was practically shut down and closed for business. Not anymore!

3:54 AM - 21 Jul 2019

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-07-24 07:56 AM | Reply

Can't find a clearer example than the coal industry of why looking to the past, aka "c-c-conservatism", is a harmful ideology.

Change for the sake of change is certainly disruptive, but clinging to the past simply because it's the past only ever seems lucrative for the top crust.

I'm curious how many of these miners are "conservatives" and voted against their own interests when they pulled the lever for the conman in chief?

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-24 09:23 AM | Reply

Der Dotard will soon start talking up "clean coal" again and the small number of coal miners still working or interested in working the mines will believe him and his lies because Trump isn't a black guy or a woman...

#4 | Posted by catdog at 2019-07-24 03:43 PM | Reply

awful. under the dems, they would have been retrained by now and onto safer, better-paying, jobs.

even worse, they may re-elect him.

#5 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-24 03:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


@#2 ... @realDonaldTrump
Following Following @realDonaldTrump

The Great State of West Virginia is producing record setting numbers and doing really well. When I became President, it was practically shut down and closed for business. Not anymore! ...

Pres Trump was probably just looking at how well the mine owners and other wealthy in West Virginia are doing, and not at the workers' outlook.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-24 04:06 PM | Reply

-I'm curious how many of these miners are "conservatives" and voted against their own interests when they pulled the lever for the conman in chief?

Put yourself in the shoes of a coal miner on Election Day.

Trump or Hillary?

Think about the respective parties have chosen their positions regarding coal.

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-24 04:38 PM | Reply

#7 | Posted by eberly

I understand your point but at this point anyone working in coal mining is an idiot. The absolute explosion in black lung cases alone says just walk away and find something else to do. The fact everything is moving away from coal for decades also says coal mining is a dying industry. I get wanting to live the rural life and I certainly get wanting to live where you were raised as well. I just don't get why the ignorance is SO strong people totally disregard their best interests.

Certainly the Democrats are against coal - the industry is nasty and dirty in every way from the mining to the burning. The truth is any company in coal mining should have diversified decades ago. Think back to the TVA - the Tennessee Valley Authority (I know WV is not part of it). Created by? The Democrats (more importantly liberals) as part of the New Deal. A new deal is what this area needs yet again because the residents still don't get it and did nothing to change things.

#8 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-07-24 05:02 PM | Reply

-I understand your point but at this point anyone working in coal mining is an idiot.

Folks didn't move to WV to work in coal mines because it sounded like a good idea when they had choices.

It's a ghetto. people are born into it, don't know any better, and will even vote to preserve it.

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-24 05:04 PM | Reply

Trump or Hillary?

Think about the respective parties have chosen their positions regarding coal.

#7 | Posted by eberly

Here's a better idea, think about the reality of coal.

It's a dying industry and no true red blooded, free market ------- "conservative" is going to change that.

It was a desperation vote because....they want things to stay the same.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-24 05:09 PM | Reply

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Almost 15% net of US coal is exported, and third worlders aren't going to stop burning it anytime soon.

#11 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-24 05:12 PM | Reply

"they want things to stay the same."

Yes. So do a lot of voters, BTW.

Think about the millions of workers in industries we are shipping operations overseas.

I see sympathy for those folks...but these coal workers are such -------.

LOL....as if there is any real difference.

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-24 05:14 PM | Reply

#9 | Posted by eberly

I know that all too well. My point was they don't even think to move away or try to change things. You could not be more correct with your analogy it is a ghetto the ones that don't move away just perpetuate it - just like the inner city ghettos.

#13 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-07-24 05:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#12 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I don't have any sympathy for them. Hillary told them the truth. That the coal industry was dying and that she would work to help them and retrain them to ease the transition.

Trump lied to them and told them he would "save coal".

So, they voted for the lie. We tried to warn them. If they wanted to know the truth, they could have researched what the real causes of the decline were and figured it out. But they decided to remain ignorant and now they are suffering for it.

So, I have very little sympathy.

If you're gonna be stupid, you gotta be tough.

#14 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-24 06:03 PM | Reply

awful. under the dems, they would have been retrained by now and onto safer, better-paying, jobs.
even worse, they may re-elect him.

#5 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Trump got rid of the funding for a retraining program in the area set up under Obama.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-07-24 06:05 PM | Reply

Almost 15% net of US coal is exported, and third worlders aren't going to stop burning it anytime soon.

#11 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

That's nice. Tell that to the workers whose checks bounced. They will appreciate it I'm sure.

#16 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-07-24 06:07 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

Have you ever seen the movie "Idiocracy"? That is pretty much what the Republican party has become.

The smart people DO move away. They move to the cities where they have a future. The dumb ones stay in the run down towns with dying industries and breed with other people just like them. Then they vote for a reality show character as the leader of the country.

And due to the peculiarities of our system of electing president, the votes of the dumb ones count for more than the votes of the smart ones who "escape" to an area where they have a chance of being successful.

I'm actually surprised these people can still grow our food for us.

"Brawndo, it's what plants crave!"

#17 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-24 06:08 PM | Reply

A lot of coal towns there isn't much choice you work for the coal mine making decent money or you work for one of the industries serving coal miners and make terrible money.

#18 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-07-24 06:12 PM | Reply

-Hillary told them the truth. That the coal industry was dying and that she would work to help them and retrain them to ease the transition.

Do you have a link for that?

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-24 06:13 PM | Reply

It will no doubt be a little hard for the Coal Miner's to accept this reality but there are plenty of hippies would be glad to give them the addresses of corporations board of directors.

#20 | Posted by Tor at 2019-07-24 06:16 PM | Reply

-Hillary told them the truth. That the coal industry was dying and that she would work to help them and retrain them to ease the transition.

Do you have a link for that?
#19 | POSTED BY EBERLY

It was a big part of her campaign in 2016.

www.politico.com

"The package her campaign outlined includes billions of dollars to shore up coal workers' pension benefits and retrain out-of-work miners or power plant employees to find jobs in other industries."

#21 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-07-24 06:34 PM | Reply

third worlders aren't going to stop burning it anytime soon.

#11 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

so "3rd worlders" will cover the paychecks then?

Because apparently those Beautiful Clean Coal paychecks are made of rubber!!

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-24 07:05 PM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

The mountain didn't run out of coal; the company paid themselves too much. Somebody else will crank it up.

so "3rd worlders" will cover the paychecks then?
#22 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

They're going to buy it from some place. Because they burn coal, and need a steady supply.

Mining companies go under all the time. Not the mines themselves.

#23 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-24 07:09 PM | Reply

"Put yourself in the shoes of a coal miner on Election Day.
Trump or Hillary?
Think about the respective parties have chosen their positions regarding coal."

Put yourself in the shoes of a coal miner today.
Trump promised to save coal jobs; you voted for that.
Then this happens.

What should a coal miner do in 2020?
I know: Feeling burned by both parties, vote third party and become even less relevant!

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-24 08:03 PM | Reply

there's a video on u-toob about the poorest county in the country, in W. Va., that voted 98% trump. they're so poor that you feel very sorry for them. uninformed... undereducated.
this is capitalism and systemic social consequences that occur when profit is the only worthwhile goal.

#25 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-07-25 12:11 AM | Reply

Mining companies go under all the time. Not the mines themselves.

#23 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-07-24 07:09 PM |

A republican take on job security.

Who is feeding the miners in the 6 months it will take to sell the mine to someone else and get it running again?

#26 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-07-25 12:43 AM | Reply

Who is feeding the miners in the 6 months it will take to sell the mine to someone else and get it running again?
#26 | POSTED BY HATTER5183

Who has a job that guarantees their company won't go bankrupt?

#27 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-25 12:53 AM | Reply

Who is feeding the miners in the 6 months it will take to sell the mine to someone else and get it running again?

Who feed them when they knew it was going under.

I work at a company I know is going under and it might last 2-3 more years, I am preparing. But the end is coming, if you worked at the company you know these things, its not like one day, oh we are closing the place ....

The bankruptcy wasn't a surprise.

Trump promised to save coal jobs; you voted for that.
Then this happens.

Did he try at least?

Trump administration has a new plan to prop up dying coal industry
Energy Department offers $38 million for research into keeping old coal plants online.
thinkprogress.org

Hillary, and Liberals such as yourself wouldn't have given it a second thought to closing the place....

#28 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-25 01:07 AM | Reply

"He Might've Stayed a Minute": Coal Miners With Black Lung Slam McConnell for Brushing Them Off in Healthcare Meeting

A group of retired Kentucky coal miners suffering from incurable black lung disease slammed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for brushing them off on Tuesday after they asked the Republican to commit to funding their medical care.

Around 120 miners and their families traveled to Washington, D.C. this week to meet with the Kentucky Republican and pressure him to take action to finance the federal Black Lung Disability Trust Fund, which serves as a lifeline for an estimated 12,000 former coal miners nationwide.

The miners said McConnell was "rude" during their meeting and quickly left after delivering a brief statement.

"We rode up here for 10 hours by bus to get some answers from him because he represents our state," George Massey, a miner from Harlan County, Kentucky, told the Lexington Herald-Leader. "For him to come in for just two minutes was a low-down shame."

#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-25 01:16 AM | Reply

I will admit it. You libs were right.

dailycaller.com

#30 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-07-25 11:48 AM | Reply

I see sympathy for those folks...but these coal workers are such -------.

LOL....as if there is any real difference.

#12 | Posted by eberly

I can't tell what you're statement said...stupid moderation.

In any case, I'm not without sympathy. It's just painful and exasperating to watch these folks vote in people who use them simply because they want to do what their daddy did and what his daddy did before him...even if it kills them.

It's like an entire state is suffering from learned helplessness and continually vote in their own abusers.

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-25 12:45 PM | Reply

They're going to buy it from some place. Because they burn coal, and need a steady supply.

Mining companies go under all the time. Not the mines themselves.

#23 | Posted by SheepleSchism

The US is the #2 producer.

The other two in the top 3 are China (1) and India (3).

Why would they bother buying from the US and pay the associated cost of shipping when they're either producing tons themselves or tons are being produced in their neighborhood?

So no, I don't think foreign buyers will save the industry in the US. A few companies will consolidate what little domestic production is needed for things like steel production but I doubt significant amounts will continue to be produced for power generation.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-25 12:50 PM | Reply

Americanunity, the miner is so mad at Mcturtle, he's gonna vote for trump again!!!! Watch.

#33 | Posted by zelkova at 2019-07-25 02:43 PM | Reply

This is a very old corporate trick.

It's be done in many other industries.

Basically, you declare bankruptcy, so you can get away from paying out pensions and other debts that you owe. You of course, pay yourself a king's fortune for being so brilliant.

Afterwards, you reformulate the corporation under a new name and start all over again.

This how you fight it...

Get together and bring your bounced paychecks with you. Go down to the county clerk's office and ask for a mechanics lien form. Fill it out. Include a xerox copy of the bounced paycheck(s). In the box entitled "In lieu of", fill out out the total amount of the check and add the words "(Legal name of...)Coal Mine".

Congrats, you now legally own 1/X part of that coal mine in lieu of your bounced paycheck(s). You can hold on to it... but I recommend you get together as a group and auction it off in one big chunk...Yea, you can legally do this since you now own it.

You'll find if you auction it off, it will be much more valuable than you can imagine... plus the legal ownership has been changed so the old bankrupt corporation will have to deal with the new owners, not you.

I am a software contractor and I use this process all the time for corporations that don't want to pay for my work.

I have in the past walked into court poor as I could be... and walked out a named partner or owning 1/4 the company.

#34 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-07-25 02:58 PM | Reply

Sec. Rick Perry can't spell COAL. More than three characters. 🚫

#35 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2019-07-25 03:41 PM | Reply

The miners should investigate the possibility of forming a collective to buy the mine and own it themselves.

#36 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-25 04:29 PM | Reply

Nope... collectives work in many places... but not in the mining industry... it even failed back when Russia was totally communist.

The better play is to lease it to a large corporation and get a percentage of each ton of coal extracted. You get a paycheck without getting dirty or taking any risks in the mining business.

You might also want to consider that soon human coal miners won't be needed at all as the labor shifts to coal mining robots.

Yea, robots... they are everywhere, aren't they?....

www.robotshop.com

#37 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-07-25 08:25 PM | Reply

"Nope... collectives work in many places... but not in the mining industry... it even failed back when Russia was totally communist."

So you say so that's the end of that discussion. Ridiculous. Iditotic. Collectives work successfully in many industries, there is no reason to believe that it wouldn't work in mining. At least with a collective you wouldn't have the owners bankrupting the company and stuffing all the profits in their own pockets while bouncing the pay checks of the workers.

#38 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-26 08:50 AM | Reply

This means Cletus and Skeeter can't afford to attend the bloated------------'s next klan rally. WOMP WOMP!!!

#39 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-07-26 01:11 PM | Reply

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