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Francisco Erwin Galicia, a Dallas-born U.S. citizen, spent 23 days in the custody of U.S. Customs and Border Protection in conditions that made him so desperate he almost opted to self-deport.

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He and 60 other men were crammed into an overcrowded holding area where they slept on the floor and were given only aluminum-foil blankets, he said. Some men had to sleep on the restroom area floor.

Ticks bit some of the men and some were very sick, Galicia said. But many were afraid to ask to go to the doctor because CBP officers told them their stay would start over if they did, he said.


Nazis would be proud of how masterfully the Trumpublican party has convinced people not to care about these people's plight.

#1 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 02:17 AM | Reply

Damn.

#2 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-07-25 06:51 AM | Reply

But the GOP gets upset if you call them concentration camps.

So don't call them concentration camps.

Even though they are concentration camps.

Because the people that told you to "--- your feelings" get upset over calling them concentration camps.

#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-07-25 07:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Four words could end their plight. "Guard, send me home."

#4 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-07-25 07:30 AM | Reply


'I am haunted': Sen. Richard Blumenthal calls for solutions after return from Texas border facilities
www.courant.com

...

After taking a tour Friday of three Border Patrol holding facilities in Texas, Sen. Richard Blumenthal called Monday for bipartisan efforts to fix inhumane holding conditions and long immigrant processing times.

"We cannot use purposeful cruelty and inhumane conditions to try to deter people seeking asylum," he said.

For comprehensive reform, Blumenthal said a solution needs to include a combination of judicial system streamlining, border security and a path to earn citizenship.

Blumenthal said detainees at the border had orders to appear in court without times or dates on them. These notices were also in English, a language many people who cross the border do not know, he said. Missing vital information could cause people to miss court and begin deportation proceedings against them.

"This process is stacked against them," Blumenthal said....


[emphasis mine]

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-25 09:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


@#4 ... Four words could end their plight. ...

So you agree they should be held under such conditions, and that they

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-25 09:53 AM | Reply


@#4 ... Four words could end their plight. ...

So you agree they should be held under such conditions, and that they are held under such conditions as a discouragement.

Good. The first step is always the toughest.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-25 09:55 AM | Reply

So you agree they should be held under such conditions, and that they are held under such conditions as a discouragement. ~ Lamplighter

So you agree you encouraged them to come, in the face of kidnapping, rape and murder.

Good. The first step is always the toughest.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-25 10:20 AM | Reply

Nazis would be proud of how masterfully the Trumpublican party has convinced people not to care about these people's plight.


Plight? When have you ever cared about the women being raped, the kids being kidnapped, the coyotes during their "plight"?

You only care once they cross the border, but there is a trail of death and destruction on the other side of the line, you just ignore because it doesn't suit your purpose.

Your "caring" stops at the border.

#9 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-25 10:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3


@#8 ... So you agree you encouraged them to come ...

You're reaching, grabbing at thin air. I'd say your comments are usually better than that but, unfortunately, they're not.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-25 10:43 AM | Reply

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He lost 26 pounds?

Lock me up!

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-07-25 11:02 AM | Reply | Funny: 3


Here are the administration officials who have said that family separation is meant as a deterrent
www.washingtonpost.com

...White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly told NPR later that month that the policy had a specific intent.

"Are you in favor of this new move announced by the attorney general early this week, that if you cross the border illegally even if you're a mother with your children, to arrest you?" NPR's John Burnett asked. "We're going to prosecute you, we're going to send your kids to a juvenile shelter?"

"They're coming here for a reason," Kelly said of migrants fleeing violence in Central America. "And I sympathize with the reason. But the laws are the laws. But a big name of the game is deterrence."

Family separation would be a tough deterrent, Burnett noted.

"It could be a tough deterrent -- would be a tough deterrent," Kelly replied....

Even in March 2017, the idea was not new. Two weeks after Trump was inaugurated, a DHS official named John Lafferty raised the idea of using family separation as a deterrent in a town hall meeting for Citizenship and Immigration Services officials, according to documents obtained by NBC News.

Once Kelly left DHS to join the White House in July, the hunt for deterrent policies continued. During an August meeting, the New Yorker reported, a DHS official named Gene Hamilton told DHS officials "that over the next few days we'd need to generate paperwork laying out everything we could do to deter immigrants from coming to the U.S. illegally," one person said. Family separations reportedly were included in the mix.

Even over the past 24 hours, multiple administration officials have pointed to a possible deterrent effect in defense of the policy....


So it does appear that Pres Trump's cruelty is a calculated effort to be a deterrent.

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-25 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

FTA:

"Claudia Galan, Galicia's attorney, told The News that CBPs decision to hold Galicia despite his citizenship was likely tied to the issuance of a visitor's visa that agents found in their records after they scanned his fingerprints.

Galicia's mother obtained the visa for him when he was a minor and claimed he was born in Mexico.

He didn't have a U.S. passport because when he was born in Dallas, Sanjuana used a fake name on his birth certificate.

She feared the only way she'd be able to legally travel across the border with her U.S. citizen son was with the visa."

So, his own mother caused the problem, by creating fictitious documents. First off, he's travelling with illegals, then his fingerprints led to a visa, not a passport, so it validated their earlier suspicions that he may have false documents.

This is the problem that illegal immigration causes for legal migrants. And you nutters want more and more problems. You want the system to be so mixed up that legal residents get swept downstream. Fix the broken system and these problems go away.

Until then, just...oh never mind. go have a melt down.

#13 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-25 12:21 PM | Reply

When have you...
You only ... you just ... because it doesn't suit your purpose.
Your "caring" stops at the border.
#9 | POSTED BY SOILED MATTRESS

For a lack of an actual response to the treatment of people being held in captivity, the soiled Mattress bludgeons me with a series of strawmen.

Thanks for your contribution to the conversation, Mattress.

Now, why not take a break and enjoy a cool Zima.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 12:35 PM | Reply

There's no dodging the truth.

Trump has a cruel streak that would gag a maggot.

The man is mentally ill.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-07-25 12:36 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY SHERP

Your explanation for why it was fine to keep Francisco illegally locked up in inhuman conditions for 23 days was delightful.

Thanks for your constant excuses for our concentration camps along our border.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Fix the broken system and these problems go away.
#13 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Trump has had plenty of time to do exactly that with full support of Republican congress. And yet, he's failed at every turn. Why is that?

#17 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-07-25 12:40 PM | Reply

"He lost 26 pounds?
Lock me up!"

-Old Nazi Joke.

Thanks for sharing, Herr JeffJ.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Until then, just...oh never mind. go have a melt down."

I can understand the bureaucratic mix up but that is no excuse for the conditions of his confinement, no human being should be treated that way. That you ignore that part of the story tells us, again, who you are.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-25 12:43 PM | Reply

Your explanation for why it was fine to keep Francisco illegally locked up in inhuman conditions for 23 days was delightful.
Thanks for your constant excuses for our concentration camps along our border.
#16 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Thanks for ignoring the obvious, that his mother had fake documents manufactured and that is the cause of him being detained along with the fact he was riding with 2 illegals. Fake documents cause a problem for both legal and illegal migrants. His mother is to blame, just as thousands of parents are to blame for running across the border with kids in tow, putting them in harms way, and getting hundreds killed each year.

The solution is a wall and legal immigration. Stop supporting migrant death and danger ClownHole.

You're policy is getting innocent people arrested and desperate migrants killed.

#20 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-25 12:47 PM | Reply

-Old Nazi Joke.
Thanks for sharing, Herr JeffJ.

#18 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Was that actually a Nazi joke?

I only said it because I need to lose some weight. It's coming off way too slowly - 8 pounds over an 18 week period.

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-07-25 12:50 PM | Reply

That you ignore that part of the story tells us, again, who you are.
#19 | POSTED BY DANNI

Who can ignore that the system is overwhelmed? Democrats, who just a few short months ago claimed it was all a manufactured non-crisis. WHo can deny that the facilities are not equipped to handle the large influx of people? Democrats, who refuse to lift a finger to support building larger, better equipped temporary facilities to deal with it.

This is EXACTLY what you all want. You a overwhelmed system with inadequate facilities so you stand at the fence and sry into the camera. Your solution is to "let them all go" to dissappear intot the US so you can hide them.

This is Democrats plan to force open the border. It isn't going to work. Eat your cake.

#22 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-25 12:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The solution is a wall
#20 | POSTED BY SHERP

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!

*deep breath*

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!

Thanks for the laugh!

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 01:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#20 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Where were you before 2016 clamoring for a massive wall at the border?

#24 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-07-25 01:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Who can ignore that the system is overwhelmed?

Thanks Trump!

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 01:07 PM | Reply

This is Democrats plan to force open the border.

The "democrats" plan?

The only people (with any political weight) who are actively promoting an open border are the Koch.

They're as hard core republican as it gets.

Your lies are boring.

Your Democrat Derangement Syndrome is tired.

Your posts are worthless.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 01:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Your posts are worthless.
#26 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Thanks for reading and breathlessly responding to each and every one of them.

I look forward to watching you smell your next reply wafting out of those soiled pajamas.

#27 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-25 01:31 PM | Reply

Kingpin's law: Anytime you attempt to attach the words "open borders" to someone else's political stance, you've not only lost the argument, but prove to the world you are also a racist POS.

#28 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-07-25 01:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3


@#22 ... Who can ignore that the system is overwhelmed? ...

Pres Trump can, when he says that the conditions at the detention facilities are not bad. Pres Trump's pastor friend can when he tours a "staged" facility and pronounces that the conditions are good.

But to your point, let's go back to why they are overwhelmed. Pres Trump is intentionally keeping the crisis at the border alive as a reelection talking point. It energizes his base (just look at this thread).

Pres Trump could have gone a long way to starting to resolve the crisis he created at our southern border back in the summer of 2018 when the Republican Congress, working with the Trump White House (read: Stephen Miller) put together a law that enacted Pres Trump's Four Pillars.

Pres Trump tweeted that he wouldn't sign it. A law that the Republican Congress says they would pass, a law that put into place what Pres Trump wanted. Yet he wouldn't sign it?

Why, because he wanted to keep the crisis alive as an election talking point for the 2020 campaign.

Pres Trump created this crisis, Pres Trump is fueling this crisis. Pres Trump does not want this crisis to end until after the 2020 election.


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-25 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#29 NW

#30 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-25 02:55 PM | Reply

Thanks for reading and breathlessly responding to each and every one of them.
#27 | POSTED BY SHERP

No one has that much free time.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 03:06 PM | Reply

No one has that much free time.
#31 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

You just did, stinky.

#32 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-25 03:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#29 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

You're just making it up, assigning positions, and manufacturing intent.

Trump didn't sign because No Wall - The Wall terrifies dems, because it will work. They're doing everything they can to delay it, because once in place, it will almost end illegal immigration altogether. The rush is on to get in, because once the dems cave and give Trump his wall, the bargaining chip is legal status for those already here.

I don't have a problem with that, as long as we deport the criminals, gang members, and wife beaters,

#33 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-25 03:16 PM | Reply

"They're doing everything they can to delay it"

Like losing the House in 2016 and giving Trump a Republican Congress for two solid years, that was a genius delaying tactic by Democrats!

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-25 03:19 PM | Reply

It really amazes me in this country of all countries how little empathy people have for their fellow human beings.

#35 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-07-25 03:28 PM | Reply

You just did, stinky.
#32 | POSTED BY SHERP

Oh. I don't deny I respond to your inanity. It's how I waste my time.

But, no one has enough free time in their lives to "responding to each and every one of" your posts.

How sad. Not only do you have trouble with reading comprehension, you also have an inability to properly articulate what you're trying to convey.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 03:37 PM | Reply

The Wall terrifies dems, because it will work.

It definitely kept the Mongolians out of China.

Oh, wait...

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-25 03:39 PM | Reply


@#33 ... Trump didn't sign because No Wall - The Wall terrifies dems, because it will work. ...

Gee, that sounds an awful lot like what I said, i.e., that Pres Trump didn't sign it because he wanted to keep it a campaign issue.

 

... They're doing everything they can to delay it, because once in place, it will almost end illegal immigration altogether. ...

Not according to the Border Patrol. They say that more than half of the illegal immigrants in the Country entered via valid entry points.

Gee, if your comments are so far wrong on something so simple as how illegals immigrants get into the Country, just what else are your comments clueless about?

As a bit of an education...

An excerpt from the Border Patrol Union webpage:
web.archive.org


  • Walls and fences are temporary solutions that focus on the symptom (illegal immigration) rather than the problem (employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens).

  • Walls and fences are only a speed bump. People who want to come to the United States to obtain employment will continue to go over, under, and around the walls and fences that are constructed.

  • Walls and fences will undoubtedly result in an increase in fraudulent documents and smuggling through the Ports of Entry.

  • Walls and fences do not solve the issue of people entering the country legally and staying beyond the date they are required to leave the country, a problem which will undoubtedly increase as more walls and fences are constructed.


  • So, why wouldn't Pres Trump sign a bill that was crafted by the Republican Congress at the direction of the Trump White House, a bill that include the Four Pillars that Pres Trump insisted upon?


    #38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-25 03:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

    Sounds like a plea bargain.

    #39 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-07-26 12:18 AM | Reply

    When will we start asking white Americans to prove they're not Russian or Irish (or Canadian, for that matter) "illegal immigrants"?

    #40 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-07-26 02:47 PM | Reply

    Four words could end their plight. "Guard, send me home."
    #4 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

    Which part of "Francisco Erwin Galicia, a Dallas-born U.S. citizen" did you not understand?

    #41 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-07-26 03:24 PM | Reply

    Reminds me that the prisoners in the Nazi concentration camps were technically held in "protective custody"

    #42 | Posted by berto42 at 2019-07-27 02:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    When will we start asking white Americans to prove they're not Russian or Irish (or Canadian, for that matter) "illegal immigrants"?

    Or Slovenians who overstayed their modeling work permit.

    #43 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-27 03:07 AM | Reply

    Four words could end their plight. "Guard, send me home."

    #4 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

    He was home. He is a United States citizen. I realize Trumpers can't be bothered to read articles, but you can't even read the headline?

    #44 | Posted by JOE at 2019-07-27 07:51 AM | Reply

    It energizes his base (just look at this thread).

    Trump's hate has metastasized.
    It permeates his entire base and has infected CPB and ICE.

    I thought the calls for ICE and CPB to be ended or reformed were ridiculous.
    Now I'm leaning towards total reformation and purging.

    What a horrible thing to happen to anyone. Unacceptable. Shameful behavior on the part of the United States.
    And this guy was born in Parkland Hospital in Dallas, right down the street from where I used to live.

    I watched an interview with him. Wretched treatment.

    "Papiere, Bitte" - followed by declaring 100% genuine documentation "fake."

    Wow.

    #45 | Posted by YAV at 2019-07-27 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    Immigrant advocates are protesting the Border Patrol's apprehension this week of a 10-year-old girl with cerebral palsy in the country illegally, after she was operated on at a Texas hospital.

    Federal immigration officers intercepted the child as she and an adult cousin, who is a U.S. citizen, were in an ambulance being transferred between two hospitals so that she could receive emergency gallbladder surgery.

    www.npr.org


    #46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-27 03:45 PM | Reply

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