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Saturday, July 27, 2019

The Supreme Court on Friday cleared the way for the Trump administration to use $2.5 billion from the Department of Defense to construct parts of a wall along the southwestern border that the government argues is necessary to protect national security.

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Good news for America, bad news for the pro-illegal immigration crowd.

#1 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-26 07:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Interesting!!!

South Carolina.

The state that also fired the first shot in the Civil War.

History may not repeat itself but it sure does rhyme.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-26 07:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Learn your history. Kansas and Missouri was fighting the civil war 5 years before Ft Sumpter.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-07-26 07:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just be quiet, dumdumboy, and listen to the wisdom of the Supremes, who, like just about everyone else in this country, are smarter than you. That includes the mentally ill, vagrants, hobos, people who can't master silverware, junkies, freeloaders and Socialists.

#4 | Posted by Spork at 2019-07-26 07:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 6

There was really nothing else the SC could do: it's not against the law for the President to be a clueless moron.

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-07-26 07:33 PM | Reply

#2 | Posted by donnerboy

That's right - the South Carolina Supreme Court. I know you you where where joking, but that's still funny.

I can't believe a federal court ruled that Trump couldn't overturn an executive order by a previous president. That shocked the hell out of me. But he was appointed by said president.

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-26 07:35 PM | Reply

Larry, no one but you and people who hump livestock give a crap about friggin' Kansas. When The Wizard asked Dorothy if she was ready to go home, she said "Can't I go somewhere interesting?

#7 | Posted by Spork at 2019-07-26 07:37 PM | Reply

With an extra $2.5 billion, we can build a wall that illegal Third Worlders can be proud of being impaled on.

#8 | Posted by Spork at 2019-07-26 07:40 PM | Reply

I wonder what his plan is to funnel as much of it as possible in to his pocket.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-26 07:49 PM | Reply

South Carolina? Go home.

#10 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-07-26 08:17 PM | Reply

"There was really nothing else the SC could do: "

They could have used a cannon like back when America was Great.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-26 09:22 PM | Reply

Go home.

#10 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Don't you mean:

Go Back!!

Hijacking thread off

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-26 09:26 PM | Reply

Winning

#13 | Posted by sawdust at 2019-07-26 10:23 PM | Reply


@#8 ... With an extra $2.5 billion, we can build a wall that illegal Third Worlders can be proud of being impaled on...

Supreme Court Clears Trump to Build 100 Miles of Border Fencing
www.bloomberg.com

...The justices Friday lifted a lower court freeze that was designed to block the $2.5 billion in spending while a lawsuit by the Sierra Club and another advocacy group went forward. The four liberal justices said they would have kept construction on hold....

The wall segments in Arizona, New Mexico and California would give Trump a tangible achievement to tout in his campaign for re-election. Until now, congressional and court resistance had thwarted significant progress toward a stronger barrier on the almost 2,000-mile (3,200-kilometer) frontier. During his first campaign, Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall.

The 30-foot steel bollard fencing would replace barriers that the Trump administration says are dilapidated and ineffective. Some of those existing barriers are designed only to prevent vehicles from crossing and don't stop pedestrians....


Fencing, not a wall.

But, may I ask a question of those who are so happy about this decision...

What percentage of those who are being held in the detention facilities would have this replacement fencing have prevented from entering the Country?

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-26 11:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What percentage of those who are being held in the detention facilities would have this replacement fencing have prevented from entering the Country?
#14 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Question if the year.

#15 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-07-27 12:01 AM | Reply

I would prefer the military bases closed around the world and put the troops along the border.

The whole border becomes a militarized zone.

Entry through legal points only. Anywhere else is considered a military base.

Do this for two straight years.

#16 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-07-27 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Do this for two straight years."

Then you will have wasted two years, going after the symptom and not the cause.

Until hirers start being frog-marched, going up the ladder each time, the problem will continue. Deport an immigrant, and you a) haven't addressed the problem, and b) added one more "Help Wanted" sign.

Meanwhile, jail a hirer, and the reason for the migration dries up.

Do THAT for two straight years, and see what happens when you attack the CAUSE, and not the SYMPTOM.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-07-27 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#17 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

When will the House demand action?

#18 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-27 11:08 AM | Reply


@#18 ... When will the House demand action? ...

In June 2018, both the House and the Senate were willing to pass an immigration bill, that was written with input from the White House and that enacted the Four Pillars that Pres Trump wanted.

Yet, Pres Trump said he wouldn't sign it. Even though it was the bill he wanted.

As much as some want to blame the House (or "Democrats") for the current problem, the fact remains that last year the Republican-controlled Congress wanted to pass a bill all-but-written by the Trump administration (read: Stephen Miller), but Pres trump said he wouldn't sign it.

Pres Trump's actions show he doesn't want a solution. The question that should be asked is why doesn't he want a solution, and not when will the House demand action.

#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-27 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

SC overruling the intent of Congress and some folks applaud. And what will Trump accomplish with his 2.5 billion dollars? A mile of wall? Last time is was less than a mile. The idea of the wall is so idiotic, it's the Chinese thinking it will protect them if they build a 3000 mile long wall....it didn't. Determined people are not stopped by walls. The Gulf of Mexico is waiting for Mexicans to discover boats like Cubans did. Build the highest, biggest wall in the history of the world and determined people will figure out how to defeat it.

#20 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-27 11:24 AM | Reply

The whole border becomes a militarized zone.

What a pathetic dumbass.

That's an unnecessary and horrible idea.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-27 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


@#19

Trump just said he "certainly wouldn't sign" an immigration bill his White House helped write. (June 2018)
www.vox.com

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-27 11:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Non-emergencies include: global warming; most expensive incomplete health care system on the planet; radical income disparity; popularization of racism and sexism; the national debt ties to military spending and perpetual war; pollution.

The orange sloth's re-election is considered to be tied to upholding a promise to build a wall. This has been declared a national emergency which conservative Supreme Court Justices with sheetforbrains have signed off on. Their pathetic partisan rulings are destroying any remaining semblance of democracy which our government alleges to publicly base its foreign policy on.

#23 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-07-27 11:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Can't wait for a Democrat President to declare a state of emergency and put the entire Pentagon budget into fixing global warming.

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2019-07-27 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Apparently, we learned nothing from the wall dividing East and West Germany.

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall."

#25 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-27 12:01 PM | Reply

#25 That wall was to keep people in. Tell Pelosi to tear down the wall around her mansion.

#26 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-27 12:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

As it should be! The bloated Pentagon budget should've built the wall in the first place. It's a national security issue. This is a good start.

#27 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-07-27 12:19 PM | Reply

#26 - idiot.
there is no wall around her home.

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2019-07-27 12:25 PM | Reply

Build the wall!

#29 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-07-27 12:34 PM | Reply


@#27 ... It's a national security issue. ...

It is?

Why?

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-27 12:40 PM | Reply

Build it tall!

#31 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-27 12:41 PM | Reply

He's repairing fence. Not building a wall. 100 miles.

"2.5 billion in Defense Department money to replace existing sections of barrier in Arizona, California and New Mexico with more robust fencing."

"Repair the Fence!"

At least he never said Mexico would pay for that...

#32 | Posted by YAV at 2019-07-27 12:49 PM | Reply

Build it tall!

#31 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

They are gonna have to. Most Planes fly at around 50,000 feet. It will need to be built 100 foot deep 50,000 feet high and 1,900 miles long wall between Mexico and the United States

40 -50 percent of all immigrants come by plane (and overstay their visas)

"During fiscal 2017, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) found that 701,900 immigrants with visas remained in the U.S. past their expected departure date, more than double the 303,916 immigrants apprehended at the border during that same time frame."

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-27 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


@#33 ... 40 -50 percent of all immigrants come by plane (and overstay their visas) ...

That's just the ones who come in by plane. There's a bunch more who walk through the legal entry points with a legal visa, and do not leave when they should. Overall, it is about 60 to 70% of the illegal immigrants in the Country who arrived here legally but are overstaying their visas.

A wall would not stop them either. Nor would it have stopped most of those who are currently in the detention centers, as they also walked in through a legal entry point.

The wall has become a mindless political rallying cry, not even DHS wants the wall that Pres Trump wants to build.

It really is a shame that Pres Trump has fooled so many people into thinking that the wall is a solution.

#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-27 01:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump finally got some money for "construction"?

Time for Trump's speciality, embezzlement.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-27 01:27 PM | Reply

He's repairing fence. Not building a wall. 100 miles.

Don't crush Nulli and Sherp's xenophobic dreams of a mighty Trump wall keeping them safe in their beds at night.

Either way, Trump will sell this as a major victory and his deplorables, such as Nulli and Sherp, will goose step around claiming victory.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-27 01:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump just said he "certainly wouldn't sign" an immigration bill his White House helped write.

Trump doesn't want immigration reform.

All he really cares about is keeping his xenophobic base foaming at the mouth until 2024.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-27 01:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#37 He's got you foaming at the mouth for 3 straight posts.

#38 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-27 01:53 PM | Reply

#38

You foam your pants every time you hear his name.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-27 02:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You foam your pants every time you hear his name.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-07-27 02:23 PM | REPLY

Huh?? Look I'm really not a dingbat but I don't understand this??

#40 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-07-27 04:00 PM | Reply

#40 Clown is foaming, Laura. It's best to just stand back until he passes out.

#41 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-27 04:04 PM | Reply

Who wants open borders? This is from the 2018 platform of the Libertarian Party of Texas:

"III.1. FREE TRADE & MIGRATION

The Libertarian Party of Texas (LPTexas) believes the right to work or travel is an inherent personal liberty that should not be unduly impeded by the laws of governments.

The Libertarian Party of Texas (LPTexas) seeks to encourage immigration of students, workers, and business owners willing to invest in Texas.

The Libertarian Party of Texas (LPTexas) believes in and encourages free and fair trade among individuals from all nations which allows the easy exchange of currency, goods, labor, and services. The Libertarian Party of Texas (LPTexas) supports the spirit of the American Dream, where even the poorest immigrant can start anew, and through hard work, responsibility, and free market principles, may prosper and thrive."

#42 | Posted by TenMile at 2019-07-27 05:03 PM | Reply

It's gonna be a big, beautiful wall, folks. Just like the one that is completely ineffective in Isntreal.

#43 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-07-28 04:54 AM | Reply

It's gonna be a big, beautiful wall, folks. Just like the one that is completely ineffective in Isntreal.

#43 | Posted by berserkone

Ha! The $2.5b will build 100 miles. That's probably all he's gonna get. Meanwhile, ladder builders have ladders taller than any see-through barrier. And Mexico has some of the best DIY tunnel builders in the world, as shown to Trump by a CBP officer when he visited McAllen, TX last year. They'd discovered 2 tunnels just that week. Not out in the country. Right there by the border crossing.

Dems offered him $25 billion if he'd agree to put DACA recipients on a path to citizenship, but he turned it down.

PS - Arrest employers by the thousands and the problem goes away. The 35 illegal immigrants in 'the world's biggest roundup ... believe me!' arrested last Sunday ain't gonna do diddly squat. Neither will arresting 10,000. Begin arresting, perp walking (on TV), and jailing employers and the problem goes away.

#44 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-28 05:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why didn't SCOTUS force Mexico to pay for the wall like the bloated------------ promised?

#45 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-07-28 11:00 AM | Reply

If he didn't make it into a symbol of hate, we would have more wall.

#46 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-29 09:31 AM | Reply

The real issue is finding enough permanent government employees to guard the wall.

#47 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-29 09:32 AM | Reply

Then you will have wasted two years, going after the symptom and not the cause.
Until hirers start being frog-marched, going up the ladder each time, the problem will continue. Deport an immigrant, and you a) haven't addressed the problem, and b) added one more "Help Wanted" sign.
Meanwhile, jail a hirer, and the reason for the migration dries up.
Do THAT for two straight years, and see what happens when you attack the CAUSE, and not the SYMPTOM.

#17 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

That's half of the battle. The other half is government benefits. No government benefits for illegal aliens. None.

Take away the employment opportunities and the only reason people will come here illegally will be to mooch off the system. I'd rather have them coming for work than coming for handouts.

It only works if BOTH are off the table.

#48 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-07-29 10:27 AM | Reply

"It only works if BOTH are off the table."

That's conjecture. No one has ever tried drying up the main draw. And just doing the math, jobs are MUCH more valuable than any benefits they can get.

"No government benefits for illegal aliens. None."

Now you're going from justifiable anger to large-scale mistakes. Not offering vaccines, for example, is a recipe for short-term success and long-term nightmares. Same with denial of education: it's a great money-saver! That is, until those kids have to become functioning adults; then that choice is a money pit.

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-07-29 10:39 AM | Reply

#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-27 01:07 PM
LampLighter, maybe you can help me with something. I'm trying to figure out why the same people who are for 'common sense gun restrictions' that will only have a minimal impact on the actual problem, gun deaths, seem to be so against 'common sense immigration restrictions', like the wall, that may only have a minimal impact on the actual problem. Do you have any explanation for that dichotomy?

In general:
Gun control: Doesn't solve the problem. May help a small amount. Impacts the rights of all Americans. Dem are for it. Rep are against it.
Border Wall: Doesn't solve the problem. May help a small amount. Impacts the pocketbooks for some Americans. Dem are against it. Rep are for it.
Weird.

#50 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07-29 10:43 AM | Reply

"In general:
Border Wall: Doesn't solve the problem.

Actually, in general, the border wall doesn't address the problem. Not when the majority of undocumented workers either fly in, or enter through a legal port of entry.

Deport the undocumented worker, and you've addressed ONE undocumented worker, and created another job opening. Frog-march the hirers, going up the ladder each time, and you're addressing the cause, instead of the symptom.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-07-29 10:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Border Wall: ... Rep are for it."

Nonsense. Trump couldn't get funding when Rs controlled both houses of Congress. Even the Texas Republican Reps were against it.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-07-29 10:49 AM | Reply

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