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Wednesday, July 31, 2019

The day after the United Nations voted to recognize the People's Republic of China, then -- California Governor Ronald Reagan phoned President Richard Nixon at the White House and vented his frustration at the delegates who had sided against the United States. "Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did," Reagan said. "Yeah," Nixon interjected. Reagan forged ahead with his complaint: "To see those, those monkeys from those African countries -- damn them, they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes!" Nixon gave a huge laugh.

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#1 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-07-30 11:16 PM | Reply

That's why Fat Nixon is a symptom of, rather than the cause of the GOP's racism.

He is just tapping into what has been there all along.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-07-31 09:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'm sure we can find many Democrats speaking when they thought a conversation was private, saying things like this.

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-31 02:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"I'm sure we can find many Democrats"

Here, I'll help you deflect, Boaz:
I'm sure we can find many Democrats... especially the black ones!

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-31 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Reagan at least had the sanity not to talk like that in public.

Trump doesn't even do that.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2019-07-31 02:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When I heard Reagan was talking about "monkeys" and "still uncomfortable wearing shoes" I thought he was talking about Pakistan.
I'm glad I read the header.

#6 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-07-31 02:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 6

Any updates on Warren Harding?

#7 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-07-31 02:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Any updates on Warren Harding?

POSTED BY BEN_BERKKAKE AT 2019-07-31 02:55 PM | REPLY

His wife poisoned him.

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-07-31 02:58 PM | Reply

I'd love to see the same treatment given to quotes from Democrats George Wallace and Robert Byrd for their statements in 1971.

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-07-31 03:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I'm sure we can find many Democrats speaking when they thought a conversation was private, saying things like this.

#3 | Posted by boaz

Republicans caught on tape being racist.
Republican defense? "Yeah but just IMAGINE democrats doing the same thing!"

Evidence vs fantasy.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-31 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

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"I'd love to see the same treatment given to quotes from Democrats George Wallace and Robert Byrd for their statements in 1971."

^
Look for the link called "Write a Blog Entry"
www.drudge.com and your tittilating, race-baiting fantasies can come to life!

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-31 03:04 PM | Reply

I'd love to see the same treatment given to quotes from Democrats George Wallace and Robert Byrd for their statements in 1971.
#9 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Either of them POTUS?

#12 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-07-31 03:05 PM | Reply

"they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes!"

I hadn't realized Boaz's foot fetish has a race angle to it!

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-31 03:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Apparently the Tanzanian delegation did something off putting and Reagan's mind went right for racist remarks.

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2019-07-31 03:37 PM | Reply

I'd love to see the same treatment given to quotes from Democrats George Wallace and Robert Byrd for their statements in 1971.

#9 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Any interest in focusing on the present? When will most of our current Republican representatives be willing to admonish our current POTUS?

#15 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-07-31 04:12 PM | Reply

DAUGHTER OF NOTORIOUS SEGREGATIONIST GEORGE WALLACE SAYS TRUMP IS WORSE THAN HER FATHER: 'NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT'

www.newsweek.com

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-07-31 04:18 PM | Reply

According to a Quinnipiac University poll, more than 50% of voters think that President Trump is a racist. This percentage is higher than the 41% of voters that said former Alabama Governor George Wallace was a racist, according to a 1968 poll.

Just to address the concerns with George Wallace whatsaboutism.

#17 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-07-31 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And now some history:

The Democratic party has been showing its bigots the door as best as they can for a long time now

On July 14 [1948], Northern Democrats led by Mayor of Minneapolis Hubert Humphreyand Illinois Senator Paul Douglas pushed for the convention to adopt a strong civil rights platform plank and endorse President Truman's pro-civil rights actions. They were opposed by conservatives opposed to racial integration and by moderates who feared alienating Southern voters (regarded as essential to a Democratic victory), including some of Truman's own aides. They were supported by northeastern urban Democratic leaders, who thought the plank would appeal to the growing black vote in their cities (traditionally Republican).

In a speech to the convention, Humphrey urged the Democratic Party to "get out of the shadow of states' rights and walk forthrightly into the bright sunshine of human rights." The convention adopted the civil rights plank in a close vote (651½-582½). In response, all 22 members of the Mississippi delegation, led by Governor Fielding L. Wrightand former Governor Hugh L. White, walked out of the assembly. Thirteen members of the Alabama delegation followed, led by Leven H. Ellis. The bolted delegates and other Southerners then formed the States' Rights Democratic Party ("Dixiecrats"), which nominated Strom Thurmond for President and Wright for Vice President.


Meanwhile, [the GOP]

Although the phrase "Southern Strategy" is often attributed to Nixon's political strategist Kevin Phillips, he did not originate it but popularized it. In an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, Phillips stated his analysis based on studies of ethnic voting:

"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."

While Phillips sought to increase Republican power by polarizing ethnic voting in general, and not just to win the white South, the South was by far the biggest prize yielded by his approach. Its success began at the presidential level. Gradually, Southern voters began to elect Republicans to Congress and finally to statewide and local offices, particularly as some legacy segregationist Democrats retired or switched to the GOP. In addition, the Republican Party worked for years to develop grassroots political organizations across the South, supporting candidates for local school boards and city and county offices as examples, but following the Watergate scandal Southern voters came out in support for the "favorite son" candidate, Southern Democrat Jimmy Carter.

From 1948 to 1984, the Southern states, for decades a stronghold for the Democrats, became key swing states, providing the popular vote margins in the 1960, 1968 and 1976 elections. During this era, several Republican candidates expressed support for states' rights, a reversal of the position held by southern states prior to the Civil War. Some political analysts said this term was used in the 20th century as a "code word" to represent opposition to federal enforcement of civil rights for blacks and to federal intervention on their behalf; many individual southerners had opposed passage of the Voting Rights Act.

#18 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-07-31 04:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This isn't a total surprise. After all, Reagan laid a wreath on a grave of a Nazi, in a Nazi graveyard.

#19 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-07-31 05:13 PM | Reply

Any interest in focusing on the present?

Why, this "what about Reagan and Nixon in 1971" thread is focused on 1971, unless of course it's intention is to tie it somehow to our current POTUS...?

I do love how how all the Useful Idiots of the DR Left are circle flapping over something that happened almost 50 years ago yet when avowed racist Democrats from the exact same era are brought up everyone yells "whataboutism" while simultaneously engaging in...wait for it...whataboutism.

Pure comedy.

#20 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-07-31 05:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I do love how how all the Useful Idiots of the DR Left are circle flapping over something that happened almost 50 years ago yet when avowed racist Democrats from the exact same era are brought up everyone yells "whataboutism" while simultaneously engaging in...wait for it...whataboutism.

Pure comedy.

#20 | Posted by Rightocenter

Trump's cult still holds reagan up as a conservative idol.
I can see why having your idol's true face exposed would upset you. You need to maintain the facade.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-31 05:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Nothing but screaming "racism" by the DR Left, 24/7. We could play this game all day. Reagan and Nixon did nothing comparable to liberal, racist, Democrat Woodrow Wilson resegregating the federal government.

#22 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-31 06:06 PM | Reply

Nothing but screaming "racism" by the DR Left, 24/7. We could play this game all day. Reagan and Nixon did nothing comparable to liberal, racist, Democrat Woodrow Wilson resegregating the federal government.

#22 | Posted by nullifidian

Show me a democrat who idolizes woodrow wilson the way the entire republican party gargles reagan's balls.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-31 06:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

False equivalence is all your party has left.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-31 06:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

False equivalence is all your party has left.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-07-31 06:15 PM | REPLY

That's Republicans for you. The party of responsibility only for others not themselves.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-07-31 06:17 PM | Reply

False equivalence is all your party has left.

Says the idiots who are holding up a 1971 conversation between Nixon and Reagan as somehow reflective of the modern GOP while similarly screaming whataboutism when racist statements from Byrd and Wallace from 1971 are brought into the mix.

Like I said, comedy gold.

#26 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-07-31 06:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Says the idiots who are holding up a 1971 conversation between Nixon and Reagan as somehow reflective of the modern GOP while similarly screaming whataboutism when racist statements from Byrd and Wallace from 1971 are brought into the mix.

Like I said, comedy gold.

#26 | Posted by Rightocenter

I'll say this again because you apparently have trouble reading: Reagan is still idolized TODAY. That's why this is relevant. Just like it would be relevant if there were new recordings of FDR or JFK saying something ignorant and racist. Except even those historically admired dem presidents aren't fetishized by democrats like repubs fetishize reagan. You're the ones who keep holding reagan on a pedestal, so evidence of his flaws is relevant as long as you keep him on that pedestal.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-31 06:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Nothing ever changes. Same as it ever was. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

#28 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-07-31 07:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Like I said, comedy gold.

#26 | Posted by Rightocenter

Yeah. You guys are comedy gold all right.

Except, have you noticed?

No one is laughing anymore.

you started a joke that started the whole world crying

(Thanks a lot Obama!)

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-31 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Nothing ever changes. Same as it ever was. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT AT 2019-07-31 07:06 PM | REPLY

Yep because no one has the guts to change the status quo. If you dare you get ridiculed.

#30 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-07-31 07:53 PM | Reply

Nothing but screaming "racism" by the DR Left, 24/7. We could play this game all day. Reagan and Nixon did nothing comparable to liberal, racist, Democrat Woodrow Wilson resegregating the federal government.

#22 | Posted by comrade nullifidian

Don't want to be called a racist? Stop being one. Stop doing and saying racist ----. Stop supporting the political party that supports racism. Stop supporting the racist president.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

It's really not hard to figure it out.

#31 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-07-31 07:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Reagan and Nixon did nothing comparable to liberal, racist, Democrat Woodrow Wilson resegregating the federal government.
#22 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Reagan's unrestrained racism being outed all this time later is indeed newsworthy, whether you or ROC like it or not.

And it's not whatsaboutism until someone deflects from the thread's topic. This would have been newsworthy whether we had a sitting racist POTUS or not.

#32 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-07-31 08:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just like it would be relevant if there were new recordings of FDR or JFK saying something ignorant and racist. Except even those historically admired dem presidents aren't fetishized by democrats like repubs fetishize reagan. You're the ones who keep holding reagan on a pedestal, so evidence of his flaws is relevant as long as you keep him on that pedestal.
#27 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Posting THAT thread in response to Trump's racism would have been clear whatsaboutism. There is no whatsaboutism if your pointing out even more racism from the same group. That showing a pattern.

Whatsaboutism is very clear when you deflect from the current topic to highlight the racism of someone from a competing group.

Nice try, ROC.

#33 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-07-31 08:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I love these false equivalencies.
What Wilson did was immoral.
If Reagan and Nixon did what Wilson did, that would be illegal.

Big difference.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-31 08:04 PM | Reply

Nice try, ROC.

There is no try, only do...

And if your partisan blinders preclude you from seeing how idiotic this thread is, I can't help you.

#35 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-07-31 08:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Reagan was against gun control until he saw some Black Panthers with guns.

#36 | Posted by mikebank at 2019-07-31 09:53 PM | Reply

So, when Reagan harped of welfare queens and young bucks driving Cadillacs, he reallly wanted to call poor blacks shoeless monkeys. Good to know.

#37 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-07-31 11:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Reagan may have been a racist traitor whose brain went to mush in office, but at least he didn't also squander his daddy's millions buying fame like Trump. SAD!

#38 | Posted by bored at 2019-08-01 12:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The rest of Africa was and has always been a wreck, but Reagan was unaware of Wakanda due to their advanced stealth technology.

#39 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-08-01 12:27 AM | Reply

"Nothing but screaming "racism" by the DR Left, 24/7. We could play this game all day."

And all night too. Apparently.

It must be so annoying for you when them there Democrats call out them there Republicans for being racist by calling them there racists "racists" when they make them there racist remarks.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-08-01 07:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter

Neither of those people were ever president and nobody holds them up as bastions of the party, dimwit.

#41 | Posted by Angrydad at 2019-08-01 07:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Snoofy says more racist things than this in 2019 - are we going to condemn him too?

#42 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-08-01 08:09 AM | Reply

Re#42

But,

But

What about Snoofy????

Print the racist statements that snoofy made that we are supposed to call out snoofy for.

See how it goes.

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-08-01 11:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#43 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

He had 2 racist posts in the debate thread alone. He was dropping the n-bomb like he was a gangsta rapper before that. You want to defend that turd? Go ahead - you will be judged by the company that you keep.

#44 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-08-01 12:08 PM | Reply

And if your partisan blinders preclude you from seeing how idiotic this thread is, I can't help you.

#35 | Posted by Rightocenter

Yeah it's IDIOTIC because you can't refute it or defend your repubican idol being exposed.

When you cant refute just say "this whole thing is stupid!"

Your conservative jesus was a bigot.

So is the new conservative jesus. Shocker.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 01:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yep, that's what this country needs more of to heal...more old white guys from an almost extinct generation saying things that were cultural to their own generation. Yep, that's going to help things.

How ignorant.

#46 | Posted by humtake at 2019-08-01 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#45

If you idiots want to play the "racist things said in the 1970's" game, how about this little gem from the New York Times in 1976:

"SOUTH BEND, Ind., April 6 -- Jimmy Carter said today that the Federal Government should not take the initiative to change the "ethnic purity" of some urban neighborhoods or the economic "homogeneity" of well‐to‐do suburbs.

‘If he wins the Presidency, the Georgia Democrat said at a news conference here, "I'm not ‐going to use the Federal Government's authority deliberately to circumvent the natural inclination of people to live in ethnically homogeneous neighborhoods."

But the emphasis of his remarks -- first in an answer to a news conference question in Indianapolis this morning, then in elaborations here -- was on the value of sameness in communities and on the costs of change and integration.

In making the point, he used unusually blunt language about; social differences -- about "black intrusion" into white neighborhoods, for example. He spoke of "alien groups" in communities, and of the bad effects of "injecting" a "diametrically opposite kind of family" or "a different kind of person" into a neighborhood."

CARTER DEFENDS ALL‐WHITE AREAS

Discuss.

#47 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 01:41 PM | Reply

Discuss.

#47 | Posted by Rightocenter

Keep digging. Let me know when you find an widely worshiped democrat calling africans "monkeys".

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#48

Let me know when you find an widely worshiped democrat calling africans "monkeys".

I think Jimmah calling them "alien groups" and using the term "black intrusion" when they are "injected" into white neighborhoods is more than enough.

If Trump said this you would need multiple paper bags to hyperventilate into.

#49 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 02:23 PM | Reply

-Keep digging. Let me know when you find an widely worshiped democrat calling africans "monkeys".

Who cares? It doesn't change what Reagan said. It is what it is. There is no defense for it. No spinning it for context, nothing.

Even if we find a prominent democrat saying something similar....what difference does that make?

How does it excuse Trump for anything he's said or done?

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I've wondered for a while now that maybe -------- is a troll that works for Trump.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 02:50 PM | Reply

I think Jimmah calling them "alien groups" and using the term "black intrusion" when they are "injected" into white neighborhoods is more than enough.

#49 | Posted by Rightocenter

Sure it is, if your party bases its appeal on false equivalencies.

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Rightwingers tend to be racist. That is news to anyone?

#53 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-08-01 03:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Yet another thing Trump has in common with Reagan and Nixon... to go along with being a criminal and a traitor.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2019-08-01 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I can't help you.
#35 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Unbeknownst to you, that's a good thing.

Again, nice try.

#55 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-01 04:42 PM | Reply

CARTER DEFENDS ALL‐WHITE AREAS
Discuss.
#47 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Now THAT'S whatsaboutism. You just can't help yourself.

#56 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-01 04:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Even if we find a prominent democrat saying something similar....what difference does that make?
How does it excuse Trump for anything he's said or done?
#50 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You're speaking to one single individual here and that's ROC.

#57 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-01 04:46 PM | Reply

That is news to anyone?
#53 | POSTED BY MODER8

Confirmation is always newsworthy.

#58 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-01 04:46 PM | Reply

I'll see your Ronald Reagan and raise you an LBJ.

#59 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-08-01 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now THAT'S whatsaboutism. You just can't help yourself.

Hardly, and I was responding to this, among other posts:

Neither of those people were ever president and nobody holds them up as bastions of the party, dimwit.

#41 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD AT 2019-08-01 07:57 AM

Like I said, if the DRama Club wants to whine about racist things Presidents said in the 1970's, I'm more than happy at add to the mix.

#60 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 05:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So tell me Rsty, was what Carter said racist or does he get a pass because #Team?

#61 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 05:24 PM | Reply

So tell me Rsty, was what Carter said racist or does he get a pass because #Team?
#61 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Yes! Again, whatsaboutism noted.

And the next time you infer me as part of "their" team, you'll be justifiably plonked.

#62 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-01 05:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#62

Okay, I just wanted to get your attention, you are the only one to even admit that JC's statement was also racist...and sorry for casting aspersions on you.

I find the hypocrisy on this thread hilarious inasmuch as this is an article unearthing one statement made in 1971 that somehow proves that Reagan was a racist, yet when a similar statement from Carter in 1976 gets pointed out, people pretend that it isn't even remotely relevant to the discussion.

#63 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 05:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

yet when a similar statement from Carter in 1976 gets pointed out, people pretend that it isn't even remotely relevant to the discussion.

#63 | Posted by Rightocenter

Because it wasn't a similar statement, it's simply the closest thing you can find because dems dont worship racists.

"You guys are so upset about AIDS! But what about the sniffles? No one talks about the sniffles! Hipocrisy!"

#64 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 06:38 PM | Reply

Another Snoofy porn thread. Keeps his mom busy washing sheets.

#65 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-01 06:40 PM | Reply

Come on. Lyndon Johnson was so ostentatiously racist, he'd have made the citizens of Rick Ridge in Blazing Saddles blush.

#66 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-08-01 06:45 PM | Reply

Rock Ridge.

#67 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-08-01 06:46 PM | Reply

Because it wasn't a similar statement, it's simply the closest thing you can find because dems dont worship racists.

LMAO, really? Using terms to justify segregation like "Ethnic purity", "Black intrusion", "alien groups" and calling black families "diametrically opposite kind of family" from white families aren't racist statements in your f'd up world?

Wow.

#68 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 06:59 PM | Reply

Come on. Lyndon Johnson was so ostentatiously racist, he'd have made the citizens of Rick Ridge in Blazing Saddles blush.

#66 | Posted by Karabekian

Show me modern democrats worshipping lyndon johnson anywhere.

Reagan was the republican messiah until trump replaced him.

#69 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 07:00 PM | Reply

LMAO, really? Using terms to justify segregation like "Ethnic purity", "Black intrusion", "alien groups" and calling black families "diametrically opposite kind of family" from white families aren't racist statements in your f'd up world?

Wow.

#68 | Posted by Rightocenter

You must be arguing against someone else because I never said that. Good luck winning your debate against the straw man you created.

#70 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 07:01 PM | Reply

#66

How soon they forget:

Lyndon Johnson said the word "------" a lot.

In Senate cloakrooms and staff meetings, Johnson was practically a connoisseur of the word. According to Johnson biographer Robert Caro, Johnson would calibrate his pronunciations by region, using "nigra" with some southern legislators and "negra" with others. Discussing civil rights legislation with men like Mississippi Democrat James Eastland, who committed most of his life to defending white supremacy, he'd simply call it "the ------ bill."

Then in 1957, Johnson would help get the "------ bill" passed, known to most as the Civil Rights Act of 1957. With the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act, the segregationists would go to their graves knowing the cause they'd given their lives to had been betrayed, Frank Underwood style, by a man they believed to be one of their own. When Caro asked segregationist Georgia Democrat Herman Talmadge how he felt when Johnson, signing the Civil Rights Act, said "we shall overcome," Talmadge said "sick."

Johnson was a man of his time, and bore those flaws as surely as he sought to lead the country past them. For two decades in Congress he was a reliable member of the Southern bloc, helping to stonewall civil rights legislation. As Caro recalls, Johnson spent the late 1940s railing against the "hordes of barbaric yellow dwarves" in East Asia. Buying into the stereotype that blacks were afraid of snakes (who isn't afraid of snakes?) he'd drive to gas stations with one in his trunk and try to trick black attendants into opening it. Once, Caro writes, the stunt nearly ended with him being beaten with a tire iron.

Nor was it the kind of immature, frat-boy racism that Johnson eventually jettisoned. Even as president, Johnson's interpersonal relationships with blacks were marred by his prejudice. As longtime Jet correspondent Simeon Booker wrote in his memoir Shocks the Conscience, early in his presidency, Johnson once lectured Booker after he authored a critical article for Jet Magazine, telling Booker he should "thank" Johnson for all he'd done for black people. In Flawed Giant, Johnson biographer Robert Dallek writes that Johnson explained his decision to nominate Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court rather than a less famous black judge by saying, "when I appoint a ------ to the bench, I want everybody to know he's a ------."

According to Caro, Robert Parker, Johnson's sometime chauffer, described in his memoir Capitol Hill in Black and White a moment when Johnson asked Parker whether he'd prefer to be referred to by his name rather than "boy," "------" or "chief." When Parker said he would, Johnson grew angry and said, "As long as you are black, and you're gonna be black till the day you die, no one's gonna call you by your goddamn name. So no matter what you are called, ------, you just let it roll off your back like water, and you'll make it. Just pretend you're a goddamn piece of furniture."

And so on...

Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist.

#71 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 07:08 PM | Reply

You must be arguing against someone else because I never said that.

You never said that Carter's terminology wasn't "a similar statement" to the racist statements made by Reagan that are the thread topic?

Let me remind you...

Because it wasn't a similar statement

#72 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 07:10 PM | Reply

Show me modern democrats worshipping lyndon johnson anywhere.

Obama to honor Lyndon Johnson and the Civil Rights Act

#73 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 07:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

You never said that Carter's terminology wasn't "a similar statement" to the racist statements made by Reagan that are the thread topic?

Let me remind you...

Because it wasn't a similar statement

#72 | Posted by Rightocenter

Good job. THAT I said. And it's true. You're really having a hard time with this false equivalency concept. You seem to think that if you can find any racism in the democrat party then that means democrats are just as racist as republicans, which is the only defense you can muster despite the fact that it wouldnt pass 6th grade debate class.

#74 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 07:20 PM | Reply

So was it a racist statement by Carter or not, Shreek?

#75 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 07:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Shreekshysteria trying to figure out how to avoid answering #75

#76 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 07:29 PM | Reply

Yes, what Jimmy Carter said was undeniably racist.

Speak is going to deflect and run from that all damn night

It's not false equivalency. It's actual equivalency.

JC was president

Reagan was a governor at the time.

How anybody can defend either one of those statements is beyond me

#77 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 07:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

-You seem to think that if you can find any racism in the democrat party then that means democrats are just as racist as republicans,

That's what speaks is afraid of.

Live by the sword ...

#78 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 07:37 PM | Reply

If you have to go back to the 60's and 70's to defend your Dear Leader's racism... then you might be trying too hard.

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2019-08-01 07:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#79 Reagan's comment and LBJ's comments are fairly contemporaneous.

#80 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-08-01 07:43 PM | Reply

79

This thread is about What Ronald Reagan said in 1971.

#81 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 07:49 PM | Reply

#79

I for one have always condemned Trump for making racist statements like the "go back" tweet.

This is all in response to the Atlantic going back to the "60's and 70's" to paint Ronald Reagan as a racist.

If that one comment makes Pres. Reagan a racist then the NYT article that I linked that set forth President Carter's statements in defense of segregation makes him a racist as well.

Goose, Gander, and all that.

#82 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 07:53 PM | Reply

En'rish vely hard for you.

#205 | Posted by Corky

Mimicking asian accents. Not racist at all...

#83 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-01 07:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

How anybody can defend either one of those statements is beyond me

Neither comment is defensible but as one of Reagan's biographers stated in another article "one mistake does not make a man a racist."

For both Carter and Reagan those are the only racist statements that I have found that either man made, while incredibly unfortunate those utterances don't make them racists.

LBJ, on the other hand...total racist.

#84 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 07:56 PM | Reply

So was it a racist statement by Carter or not, Shreek?

#75 | Posted by Rightocenter

Yes. Is it a racist statement on par with calling africans monkeys ROC? Only if you're desperate to pretend repubs aren't racist.

#85 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 08:04 PM | Reply

"He was dropping the n-bomb like he was a gangsta rapper before that"

^
Lee Atwater was a "gangsta rapper" now.
Keep revising history; it's not like you have a plan for the future.

#86 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:08 PM | Reply

#85

Thanks for answering that question.

Since Carter now also has a racist statement to his credit, does that automatically make him a racist?

#87 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 08:08 PM | Reply

Since Carter now also has a racist statement to his credit, does that automatically make him a racist?

#87 | Posted by Rightocenter

Well before we go there, we should first establish is racism bad?
And if so, is a MORE racist person a worse elected official than a LESS racist person?

#88 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 08:10 PM | Reply

Racism is bad, and regardless of degree, a racist is a racist.

So is Jimmy Carter automatically a racist for making that statement?

#89 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 08:11 PM | Reply

"Racism is bad, and regardless of degree, a racist is a racist."

When everything is racist, nothing is racist.
--JeffJ

#90 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:12 PM | Reply

#90

Bears repeating:

Another Snoofy porn thread. Keeps his mom busy washing sheets.

#65 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-08-01 06:40 PM

#91 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 08:14 PM | Reply

Since Carter now also has a racist statement to his credit, does that automatically make him a racist?
#87 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Yea! Fffk Carter!

Go fund that racist old bag and punch him in his 110 year old ribs.

Good job RoC!

#92 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 08:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Snoofy... Carter... let's talk about anyone but Reagan!"
--Joint statement issued by the alliance of DR right-wingers

#93 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:16 PM | Reply

92

Reagan is dead. And this thread is about him.

#94 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 08:16 PM | Reply

#92

That made me laugh.

#95 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 08:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bears repeating:

Nah. It didn't.

Guess you'll take what you can get.

Like a cheap $80 Guatemalan baby.

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 08:16 PM | Reply

Reagan is dead. And this thread is about him.
#94 | POSTED BY EBERLY

So you're saying we should go shht on his grave?

I'm game.

#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 08:17 PM | Reply

"Reagan is dead."

Racism is alive and well.
Which party has more, Eberly, Republicans or Democrats?
Or is it just... too close to call.

#98 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:17 PM | Reply

"Snoofy... Carter... let's talk about anyone but Reagan!"

I agree that Reagan's statement was racist.

Do you agree that Carter's statement was racist as well?

#99 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 08:18 PM | Reply

"Snoofy... Carter... let's talk about anyone but Reagan!"

#100 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Which party has more, Eberly, Republicans or Democrats?

Definitely the Eberly Party.

Rampant racism is their motto.

Their party icon is a noose.

#101 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#100

Deflection noted.

Do you agree that Carter's statement was racist as well?

#102 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 08:22 PM | Reply

Snoofy... Carter... let's deflect to anyone but Reagan!

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#100, 103

So you are going to desperately avoid answering that question.

#104 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 08:23 PM | Reply

97

No. Calling it a racist statement is good enough for me.

Threads like this wind up making trump look better by comparison

And drags poor jimmy carter, a fine man as far as I'm concerned, through the mud.

-------- is an employee of trump.

#105 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 08:24 PM | Reply

"So you are going to desperately avoid answering that question."

So you are going to desperately deflect to that question.
Over and over and over again.

#106 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

101

I plonked snoofy. Not sure what you're babbling about either

#107 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 08:26 PM | Reply

They say a lawyer doesn't ask a question they don't already know the answer to.

What's my answer?

#108 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:27 PM | Reply

"And drags poor jimmy carter, a fine man as far as I'm concerned, through the mud."

^
That seems to be the point of the latter half of this thread.

Because saying you're not going to force neighborhood integration like prior administrations forced school integration is, we are to believe, racism tantamount to joking Africans are barely civilized enough to wear shoes.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:30 PM | Reply

What a boring thread.

#110 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 08:30 PM | Reply

Racism is bad, and regardless of degree, a racist is a racist.

So is Jimmy Carter automatically a racist for making that statement?

#89 | Posted by Rightocenter

Ahh so there it is: REGARDLESS OF DEGREE.
So degrees of things don't matter.

A flu is as bad as AIDS.
A drizzle is as bad as a hurricane.
And losing $50 in fantasy football is the same as gambling away your house, correct?

There is only GOOD or BAD, do I have that right?

#111 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 08:30 PM | Reply

-And losing $50 in fantasy football is the same as gambling away your house, correct?

In your case, the $50 might be worse.

#112 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 08:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Calling it a racist statement is good enough for me.

Great. Now I gotta go clean up the mess I made.

Threads like this wind up making trump look better by comparison.

Threads like this prove everyone is a racist. It's the sequel to the book everyone -----. It's called everyone is racist. On the cover Trump is gassing brown children while single handedly beating up Muslims and saving America from 9/11.

And drags poor jimmy carter, a fine man as far as I'm concerned, through the mud.

Jimmy is a peanut farmer. He's use to being in the mud. (Mud meaning dirt, not... oooph... almost pulled a racism...)

#113 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 08:34 PM | Reply

In your case, the $50 might be worse.

#112 | Posted by eberly

Thanks for that valuable contribution to the discussion. Back under your rock now.

#114 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 08:34 PM | Reply

I plonked snoofy.

Everyone has their process.

Not sure what you're babbling about either

I was mostly poking fun at comma usage. The question was which party is most racist. It was directed at you.

Guess Snoofy is unaware you plonked him.

#115 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 08:36 PM | Reply

-Thanks for that valuable contribution to the discussion.

You're right. I should resort to contributing by indiscriminately calling anybody I disagree with a racist.

#116 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 08:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You dont get called a racist for disagreeing over the best kind of pizza. You get called a racist for defending a white supremacist.

#117 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 08:43 PM | Reply

117. Wait. Are we now talking about Reagan, Carter, Trump, or LBJ?

#118 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-08-01 08:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

117. Wait. Are we now talking about Reagan, Carter, Trump, or LBJ?

#118 | Posted by Karabekian

I dont think anyone can tell what youre talking about.

#119 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 08:58 PM | Reply

I guess there's no important public policy issues to discuss, judging by today's retort. Maybe tomorrow the Left will talk about their great platform. Or not.

#120 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-01 09:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hangnails and un-rewound VHS tapes are bad.
Just like Hitler, and Jimmy Carter.
Signed,
RightOCenter

#121 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 09:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

119. There are so many "white supremacists" referenced in this thread - right and left - I'm not sure who is being referenced, anymore.

#122 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-08-01 09:09 PM | Reply

I guess there's no important public policy issues to discuss, judging by today's retort. Maybe tomorrow the Left will talk about their great platform. Or not.

#120 | Posted by nullifidian

Not if trump can help it. That's why he needs to do something racist every day. If he thought a discussion about the issues worked in his favor he wouldnt need to work so hard to distract you from them.

#123 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 09:11 PM | Reply

If the DR Left thought the issues worked in their favor they would be discussing them the day after a debate. But they're not, because their "freebies for everyone" platform is a joke.

#124 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-01 09:15 PM | Reply

If the DR Left thought the issues worked in their favor they would be discussing them the day after a debate. But they're not, because their "freebies for everyone" platform is a joke.

#124 | Posted by nullifidian

Look at the title of this thread dumbass. You think this is the thread where people should be discussing yesterday's democratic debate?

#125 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 09:17 PM | Reply

-You dont get called a racist for disagreeing over the best kind of pizza

You can here.

#126 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 09:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

You can here.

#126 | Posted by eberly

Poor white males. Such oppressed victims everywhere they go.

#127 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 09:31 PM | Reply

It's not oppression.

It's just what it is.

You can't help it. Babies cry to tell us things.

You cry "racist" over pizza or any trivial thing.

#128 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 09:34 PM | Reply

Racist Pizza?

Is it the one with white sauce, no toppings or cheese and claims its the best because it personally shht on all the other pizzas?

#129 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 09:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-You get called a racist for defending a white supremacist.

On this thread I've...

1. agreed Reagan's statement was racist
2. defended Jimmy Carter
3. said nothing about Trump...no defense for him at all

and you're chasing me around so desperate to call me a racist.

#130 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 09:41 PM | Reply

On this thread I've...
1. agreed Reagan's statement was racist

We can still shht on his grave if you want.

2. defended Jimmy Carter

RoC and I are planning on punching him, you can join us.

#131 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 09:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

131

I'm thinking......sounds enticing.

#132 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 09:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

On a serious note.

Who cares what Reagan said 40 years ago.

His policies destroyed America, not his comment about chimps looking like black people.

#133 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 09:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You dont get called a racist for disagreeing over the best kind of pizza.

But what kind of pizza?

-Snoofy

#134 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 09:56 PM | Reply

Clown is on a ---- roll!

#135 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 09:57 PM | Reply

"To see those, those monkeys from those African countries -- damn them, they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes!"

That reminds me of the movie "The Birdcage". Hank Azaria's character was the butler, but he couldn't wear shoes, everytime he did, he would fall down.

Racism, without it, all we have are fat jokes.

#136 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 09:59 PM | Reply

and you're chasing me around so desperate to call me a racist.

#130 | Posted by eberly

I didnt call you racist. You walked in here crying about how everyone calls you a racist for no reason.

When I said you get called racist for supporting a white supremacist that was the collective YOU not the individual YOU. A better way to say it would be "ONE gets called racist for supporting a white supremacist" but talking like that makes me feel like mary poppins.

#137 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 09:59 PM | Reply

"You cry "racist" over pizza or any trivial thing.
#128 | POSTED BY EBERLY"

See #47, and all of RoC's post since, and remind us who is crying "racist!"

#138 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 10:00 PM | Reply

Coke bottle glasses on Asians with buck teeth will always be funny.

#139 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-01 10:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

You walked in here crying about how everyone calls you a racist for no reason.

EBERLY IS A RACIST!!!!

(I didn't want to feel left out...)

#140 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 10:01 PM | Reply

#138

Deflection noted.

Do you agree that Carter's statement was racist as well?

#102 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-08-01 08:22 PM

#141 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 10:04 PM | Reply

Coke bottle glasses on Asians with buck teeth will always be funny.

ME SO SOLLY

Enjoy.

#142 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 10:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

RoC and I are planning on punching him, you can join us.

Careful, Jimmy Carter may punch back!

-Tommy Collins

#143 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-01 10:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#143

Was that before Jimmy's vitiligo kicked in?

#144 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-01 10:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-everyone calls you a racist for no reason.

no...just a handful of racebaiters including you.

#145 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 10:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-EBERLY IS A RACIST!!!!

starting to grow on me.

#146 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 10:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

142

that is awesome

#147 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 10:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Miss Golightly! I must protest!

#148 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-01 10:49 PM | Reply

no...just a handful of racebaiters including you.

#145 | Posted by eberly

If I called you a racist it's because either you said something racist, or you were defending trump, king of the racists.

#149 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 10:56 PM | Reply

149

Nope. I Haven't done either....ever

You are in massive denial to suggest otherwise

#150 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-01 11:12 PM | Reply

Nope. I Haven't done either....ever

You are in massive denial to suggest otherwise

#150 | Posted by eberly

Then I haven't called you a racist.

You are in massive denial to suggest otherwise

#151 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-01 11:49 PM | Reply

#151

Dude, you call everyone a racist.

Racist.

#152 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-02 01:17 AM | Reply

Rapist!

#153 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-02 01:30 AM | Reply

#139

Google: Tijuana Toads: Hop and Chop

#154 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-02 09:17 AM | Reply

Then I haven't called you a racist.

oh for ------ sake....you're gonna triple down on your denial.

#155 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-02 09:19 AM | Reply

Then I haven't called you a racist.

oh for ------ sake....you're gonna triple down on your denial.

#155 | Posted by eberly

If you're going to triple down on your accusation I'd say it's time to provide some evidence, wouldn't you?

#156 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-02 01:06 PM | Reply

screw you, stupid.

I'm not going to spend time retrieving anything.

don't worry...you can't help yourself...you'll gladly do it again.

#157 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-02 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

screw you, stupid.

I'm not going to spend time retrieving anything.

don't worry...you can't help yourself...you'll gladly do it again.

#157 | Posted by eberly

So after all your whining that people are accusing you of something without evidence, you're going to accuse me of something without evidence then take your ball and go home?

#158 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-02 01:49 PM | Reply

158

Annoying isn't it?

#159 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-02 02:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Annoying isn't it?

#159 | Posted by eberly

Not really. More amusing. Pathetic. Highly hypocritical.

"Wahhh you called me a racist without evidence!"
"Where's your evidence that I ever called you racist?"
"Uhhh....Shut up!"

#160 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-02 02:31 PM | Reply

Deal with it, boy.

#161 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-02 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Deal with it, boy.

#161 | Posted by eberly

Deal with what loser?

#162 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-02 03:12 PM | Reply

you're going to accuse me of something without evidence then take your ball and go home?
#158 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

It's happened to me here. I've never called anyone racist on the DR and one poster in particular refuses to prove that I ever called her a racist. Annoying indeed.

#163 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-02 03:13 PM | Reply

It's happened to me here. I've never called anyone racist on the DR and one poster in particular refuses to prove that I ever called her a racist. Annoying indeed.

#163 | Posted by rstybeach11

I'm sure when you're a racist it seems like everyone is always calling you a racist. Must be terrible for them. It's hard out there for a bigot. Unless youre at a trump rally.

#164 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-02 07:43 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, right-wingers here loooove calling me racist. And claim I post all kinds of racist things. Like when I post Lee Atwater's famous quote, I guess.

#165 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-02 07:47 PM | Reply

-Must be terrible for them.

Them? You mean me?

#166 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-02 10:00 PM | Reply

-Annoying indeed.

It's what I was going for.

#167 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-02 10:01 PM | Reply

Faux outrage on line 2.

#168 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-02 10:04 PM | Reply

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