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Monday, August 05, 2019

President Donald Trump has condemned "racism, hatred and white supremacy" in an address following mass shootings that left 29 dead in Texas and Ohio ... The president criticised the internet and "gruesome" video games for promoting violence in society.

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Wonder how long before he walks that one back?

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-08-05 10:47 AM | Reply

At this point Trump reminds me of the domestic violence abuser who promises never to his hurt partner again--until the next time he does. Right now I view him like the domestic abuser who is vying for time and sympathy and see his words as just another form of manipulation. He will have to go a lot further than this one statement to convince me of his sincerity. Are there things he will stop saying, as well as things like this, that he will start saying? Time will tell.

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-05 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fat Nixon also blamed the media for the shootings.

He is trash.

#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-08-05 11:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

FTA
He called for...laws that would allow law enforcement authorities to take away weapons from individuals...

Looks like it's not Obama that's coming to take your guns, it's Trump.

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-08-05 11:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


The thing to watch is what he says to his adulating faithful at his next rally.

Will he utter the same condemnation during the rally? Or will he just be silent on the topic, giving the actions his tacit approval?

And what about the next rally? and the next? and the next? Will he continue to condemn white supremacy, and risk turning away a portion of those he relies upon for votes?

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-05 11:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hmmm... I seem to have missed the "T" when I pasted that.

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-08-05 11:12 AM | Reply

Looks like it's not Obama that's coming to take your guns, it's Trump.
#4 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST

This makes sense .... parties can always do what they are opposed too, for some odd reason.

Democrats can goto war, no questions asked.
Republican can raise the debt, no questions asked.

#TribalPositionParadox

#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-05 11:15 AM | Reply

I seem to have missed the "T" when I pasted that.
#6 | POSTED BY REDIAL

I am pretty sure no one is confused, only the jerks will complain.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-05 11:16 AM | Reply

The comments at Brietbart are so butt hurt over there boy selling them out.
It shouldn't be news that WS is condemned.. should be a no brainer

#9 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-08-05 01:13 PM | Reply

By their fruits you shall know them. Oh, and by their friends too:

Rick Wilson @TheRickWilson

"These sinister ideologies have no place in America" says the man who praised Steve Bannon this weekend and who still employs Stephen Miller.

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-05 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rick who?

#11 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-05 01:58 PM | Reply

I notice you dismiss the source but not the observation which is spot on:

"These sinister ideologies have no place in America" says the man who praised Steve Bannon this weekend and who still employs Stephen Miller.

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-05 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

The Hypocrite-in-Chief

Trump launched his campaign in 2015 by calling Mexican immigrants "rapists" who are "bringing crime" and "bringing drugs" to the US. His campaign was largely built on building a wall to keep these immigrants out of the US.
As a candidate in 2015, Trump called for a ban on all Muslims coming into the US. His administration eventually implemented a significantly watered-down version of the policy.
When asked at a 2016 Republican debate whether all 1.6 billion Muslims hate the US, Trump said, "I mean a lot of them. I mean a lot of them."
He argued in 2016 that Judge Gonzalo Curiel -- who was overseeing the Trump University lawsuit -- should recuse himself from the case because of his Mexican heritage and membership in a Latino lawyers association. House Speaker Paul Ryan, who endorsed Trump, later called such comments "the textbook definition of a racist comment."
Trump has been repeatedly slow to condemn white supremacists who endorse him, and he regularly retweeted messages from white supremacists and neo-Nazis during his presidential campaign.
He tweeted and later deleted an image that showed Hillary Clinton in front of a pile of money and by a Jewish Star of David that said, "Most Corrupt Candidate Ever!" The tweet had some very obvious anti-Semitic imagery, but Trump insisted that the star was a sheriff's badge, and said his campaign shouldn't have deleted it.
Trump has repeatedly referred to Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) as "Pocahontas," using her controversial -- and later walked-back -- claims to Native American heritage as a punchline.
At the 2016 Republican convention, Trump officially seized the mantle of the "law and order" candidate -- an obvious dog whistle playing to white fears of black crime, even though crime in the US is historically low. His speeches, comments, and executive actions after he took office have continued this line of messaging.
In a pitch to black voters in 2016, Trump said, "You're living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?"
Trump stereotyped a black reporter at a press conference in February 2017. When April Ryan asked him if he plans to meet and work with the Congressional Black Caucus, he repeatedly asked her to set up the meeting -- even as she insisted that she's "just a reporter."

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-05 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In the week after white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, Trump repeatedly said that "many sides" and "both sides" were to blame for the violence and chaos that ensued -- suggesting that the white supremacist protesters were morally equivalent to counterprotesters that stood against racism. He also said that there were "some very fine people" among the white supremacists. All of this seemed like a dog whistle to white supremacists -- and many of them took it as one, with white nationalist Richard Spencer praising Trump for "defending the truth."
Throughout 2017, Trump repeatedly attacked NFL players who, by kneeling or otherwise silently protesting during the national anthem, demonstrated against systemic racism in America.
Trump reportedly said in 2017 that people who came to the US from Haiti "all have AIDS," and he lamented that people who came to the US from Nigeria would never "go back to their huts" once they saw America. The White House denied that Trump ever made these comments.
Speaking about immigration in a bipartisan meeting in January 2018, Trump reportedly asked in reference to Haiti and African countries, "Why are we having all these people from -------- countries come here?" He then reportedly suggested that the US should take more people from countries like Norway. The implication: Immigrants from predominantly white countries are good, while immigrants from predominantly black countries are bad.
Trump denied making the "--------" comments, although some senators present at the meeting said they happened. The White House, meanwhile, suggested that the comments, like Trump's remarks about the NFL protests, will play well to his base. The only connection between Trump's remarks about the NFL protests and his "--------" comments is race.
Trump mocked Elizabeth Warren's presidential campaign, again calling her "Pocahontas" in a tweet before adding, "See you on the campaign TRAIL, Liz!" The capitalized "TRAIL" is seemingly a reference to the Trail of Tears -- a horrific act of ethnic cleansing in the 19th century in which Native Americans were forcibly relocated, causing thousands of deaths.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-05 02:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I notice you dismiss the source but not the observation which is spot on:

Of course Nullischittian did.

He doesn't have an original thought or intellectual bone in his body.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-05 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"But, speaking as a researcher who has studied violent video games for almost 15 years, I can state that there is no evidence to support these claims that violent media and real-world violence are connected. As far back as 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that research did not find a clear connection between violent video games and aggressive behavior.

Criminologists who study mass shootings specifically refer to those sorts of connections as a "myth."

And in 2017, the Media Psychology and Technology division of the American Psychological Association released a statement I helped craft, suggesting reporters and policymakers cease linking mass shootings to violent media, given the lack of evidence for a link."

www.pbs.org

Trump and his sycophants haven't a clue? I'm shocked, shocked I tells ya!

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2019-08-05 03:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


Do Video Games Lead to Mass Shootings? Researchers Say No. (February 2018)
www.nytimes.com

...Shortly after the school shooting in Parkland, Fla., President Trump said that violent video games and movies may play a role in school shootings, a claim that has been made -- and rejected -- many times since the increase in such attacks in the past two decades.

Movies are "so violent," Mr. Trump said at a meeting on school safety on Feb. 22, a week after the massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, where, the authorities say, a former student, Nikolas Cruz, killed 17 people with a semiautomatic rifle. A neighbor of Mr. Cruz's told The Miami Herald that he played video games, often violent ones, for up to 15 hours a day...

Mr. Trump is far from the first leader to argue that violence in video games or movies can lead to violence in the real world.

A similar claim was made in the 1940s, when Mayor Fiorello La Guardia of New York argued that pinball -- which was illegal in the city for over 30 years -- was "dominated by interests heavily tainted with criminality."...

In a 2005 essay for PBS, Henry Jenkins, a professor at the University of Southern California, said that juvenile crime in the United States was at a 30-year low even though large numbers of young people play video games.

"Researchers find that people serving time for violent crimes typically consume less media before committing their crimes than the average person in the general population," he wrote. When it comes to video games, he said, "the overwhelming majority of kids who play do not commit antisocial acts."

According to a 2015 study by the Pew Research Center, 49 percent of American adults -- including roughly equal numbers of men and women -- play video games, whether on a computer, a TV, a gaming console, or a portable device like a cellphone or an iPad.
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In Japan, about 60 percent of the population played video games in 2016, according to NewZoo, a gaming market research company. But almost no one is killed by a gun in the country, which bans possessing, carrying, selling, or buying handguns or rifles. There were only six gun deaths in Japan in 2014, compared with over 33,000 in the United States, according to GunPolicy.org, which tracks published reports on armed violence, firearm law and gun control....



#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-05 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm pretty sure other countries have violent video games too, but they don't have the gun violence we have. So that's a bogus talking point.

#18 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-05 03:47 PM | Reply

Maybe it's the movies Hollywood produces.

No, wait. There are no violent movies.

This must be Trump's fault, because we haven't had anything like this before he even announced running for office.

It's a shame we couldn't have Obama for eight additional years of non-violence in our country.
This would never have happened if Hillary was elected.

#19 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-08-05 04:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1


After watching Pres Trump's televised comments on this...

I remember how Pres Trump has often mocked those who say he cannot act in a Presidential manner.

Well, the televised comments would have been an ideal time for Pres Trump to act in a Presidential manner.

Instead I saw an emotionless automaton reciting words that did not even sound like he knew or understood what he was saying.

The next time Pres Trump mockingly says he can act Presidential anytime he wants, the joke will be on himself.

He simply cannot.


#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-05 04:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

This must be Trump's fault,

#19 | Posted by Petrous at

He sure gets his share.

Problem is, Trump has convinced everyone he's a racist. He was TRYING to convince his base. Now there's bloodshed and the least trusted man in America is trying to mouth a few nice things.

I have no sympathy for him. As 2020 nears I expect him to get worse, not better.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2019-08-05 04:46 PM | Reply

He condemned White Supremacy? Trump? I must have missed it. Must have occurred when he was in between rounds of golf. Hypocrite.

#22 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-08-05 06:21 PM | Reply

Of course he condemned it, Trump's not a racist.

#23 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-05 06:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Of course he condemned it, Trump's not a racist.
#23 | POSTED BY SHERP

That's the funniest thing you've ever posted!

Well done!

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-05 06:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hey Sheepy you russian tool, FOAD!

#25 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-05 09:34 PM | Reply

The fact he brings up video games shows how disconnected he is with reality and stuck in news headlines from the late 1980s. It's as though his brain just stopped learning things after 1990. Probably why he still won't apologize for the Central Park Five debacle.

#26 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-05 10:38 PM | Reply

Trump's not a racist.
#23 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

What makes you think that?

#27 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-05 10:38 PM | Reply

"Democrats can goto war, no questions asked."

Wag the dog.

You're a ------, mackris.

#28 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-08-06 12:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Trump's not a racist."

LOL

#29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-08-06 12:22 AM | Reply

Trump did NOT disavow White Nationalism and racism, he said the country needs to do that. At no time so he say that he personally found it reprehensible or wrong. Then he blessed the wrong F'n Ohio city, Toledo instead of Dayton. This was exactly what the White Nationalists were looking for, they saw no passion or enthusiasm for the words he was seeing for the first time and could barely read off the teleprompter. The Nazis will correctly conclude that he didn't mean it, and he DID AND DOES NOT.

#30 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2019-08-06 01:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You can't blame video games. Outside of the USA kids spend more time playing video games and the games they play are more violent than the games American Kids play. If video games cause real life violence then Japan would have more mass killing sprees than America.

Video games are just a distraction

#31 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-08-06 08:05 AM | Reply

Maybe video games produce a certain casual acceptance of violence. But they are imaginary and most people beyond the age of 13 understand that difference. There is no such distinction between the violence imposed on the world by the US military, the CIA, SWAT Teams, and some members of the INS, Border Patrol and police. Then you have a President who openly endorses actually torturing people, a practice forbidden by our founding fathers.

The orange sloth has been a bigger problem than video games, though he has clearly been coached this week to follow a different script. Hopefully that will continue throughout the 2020 campaign, even though we know the orange sloth lacks anything remotely associated with compassion. Being a Christian is an essential part of is campaign strategy, which has fooled a lot of people.

#32 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-08-06 08:36 AM | Reply

He also said that there were "some very fine people" among the white supremacists. - #14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-05 02:11 PM

When you have to lie to try to make a point, you're not making a point.


It's fine, you're changing history, you're changing culture, and you had people – and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too.

www.politico.com

#33 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-06 09:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#17 " Mayor Fiorello La Guardia of New York argued that pinball" The pinball machine in this case was owned by the mob and "leased" to small store owners sometimes not voluntarily . People bet on pinball and the mob made a lot of dimes.
Not the same thing as the supposed problem with violent video games like Grand Theft Auto where killing prostitutes is a part of the game. (or so I have heard).

That said there is no correlation between VVG and mass shootings. If there was there would be many many more of them.

#34 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2019-08-06 10:31 AM | Reply

GTA V taught me how to steal a plane, skydive into a downtown, shoot police, steal their car, escape onto a hill where you could clearly see me from the road but is just out of range of the detector raycasts, shoot down the police helicopters with heat sinking missiles, then go get a coke while I wait for the wanted stars to wear off.

Clearly it's a murder simulator.

#35 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-08-06 12:46 PM | Reply

Sorry, I'm with the President on this one.

I recently tried out Minecraft. Now I can't help but run up to trees and start punching them so I can build a log home.

Also played some Skyrim. I'm trying to find a Dragon to yell at but I've handle to settle for screaming outside the Green Dragon Chinese Buffet down the street. They are not impressed.

#36 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-08-06 12:50 PM | Reply

Condemning video games is as dumb as condeming anonymous BBSs online or underground music like the Ohio shooter was involved in.

#37 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-08-06 05:26 PM | Reply

Of course he condemned it, Trump's not a racist.

#23 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

You could easily tell he didn't want to say what he was told he had to say. Then he laid all of the blame on mental illness and video games, even though there is no evidence of mental illness or video games influence.

Just compare his "condemnation" of racism to how animated and boisterous he becomes when talking about "infestations".

#38 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-08-06 05:55 PM | Reply

"even though there is no evidence of mental illness or video games influence."

Video games, no. Mental illness, yes. If people are sincere about keeping guns out of the hands of crazy nutters, they should be calling on the president to elaborate on what he's willing to do to prevent it. And I don't mean in a sarcastic, scoring political points kind of way.

Whenever these types of things happen, people often talk about gun legislation, but the fact of the matter is there are already lots of laws on the books pertaining to both guns and terrorism. People should be looking to the executive branch to take action, IMO.

#39 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-08-06 06:20 PM | Reply

"...there are already lots of laws on the books pertaining to both guns and terrorism."

LOL!

Yes..lots of intentionally ineffective ones.

#40 | Posted by Angrydad at 2019-08-07 07:22 AM | Reply

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