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Wednesday, August 07, 2019

White-supremacist terrorists -- the ones who have left dozens dead in attacks in Pittsburgh, New Zealand, and El Paso, Texas, in recent months -- aren't just trying to outdo one another, he told us. They're trying to outdo Timothy McVeigh, the anti-government terrorist who blew up an Oklahoma City federal building and killed more than 100 people in 1995 -- the worst terrorist attack in the United States before September 11, 2001.

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"the worst is yet to come"

There's not a doubt in my mind about that.

Not now . . . nor if Donald Trump gets re-elected.

There's a method behind Trump's madness. He's not about to quit now.

#1 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-08-08 12:11 AM | Reply

This nation wont know peace as long as fox news is on the air.

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-08 12:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"This nation wont know peace as long as fox news is on the air.

#2 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

Um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this country has seen only 17 years of peace in her history. Fox hasn't been around nearly that long. So that's yet another bogey man under your bed out to get you that you can forget about.,

#3 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-08 01:20 AM | Reply

Fox news -"The channel was created by Australian-born American media mogul Rupert Murdoch, who hired Roger Ailes as its founding CEO. The channel was launched on October 7, 1996 to 17 million cable subscribers."
www.google.com

#4 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-08-08 01:52 AM | Reply

Two Mass Shootings in Chicago Over Weekend, More Than 1,500 Shot in 2019...White Nationalists?

#5 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2019-08-08 02:58 AM | Reply

Much like Donald Trump, FOX News has shown their true colors these past 2+ years so we already know they're without shame. I expect they'll continue to demonize and vilify any Democrat who sits in the Oval Office just as they did to Barack Obama.

They just won't have the bully pulpit to back them up . . . and vice versa.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-08-08 04:34 AM | Reply

The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be fun to watch as FOX covers Trump's disgraceful fall from power.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-08-08 04:40 AM | Reply

Most of our nation's problems can be attributed to a corrupt Supreme Court. Money in politics, lack of gun controls, monopolies, gerrymandering, ridiculous tax cuts increasing debt, etc. The Republicans are now stacking to courts to insure that the things they have done will remain even if the population finally rejects them at the polls.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-08 10:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most of our nation's problems can be attributed to a corrupt Supreme Court. Money in politics, lack of gun controls, monopolies, gerrymandering, ridiculous tax cuts increasing debt, etc. The Republicans are now stacking to courts to insure that the things they have done will remain even if the population finally rejects them at the polls.

#8 | POSTED BY DANNI

You blame the court and then cite things that have nothing to do with the court.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-08 10:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"You blame the court and then cite things that have nothing to do with the court."

Baloney. They did CU, decided that the part of the 2nd Amendment that mentions militia is unnecessary to gun ownership, they recently decided gerrymandering was ok if it is done for political advantage but not racial advantage, their willingness to allow unlimited money in politics gives Republicans the power to pass ridiculous tax cuts which increase debt. The SC has enabled the rich to run America as an oligarchy. You can pretend otherwise but that is exactly what I expect from you Jeff.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-08 10:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

We should overturn Marbury vs. Madison and fix our country.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-08 10:17 AM | Reply

#9 Gun control, money in politics and political gerrymandering are 100% related to the Supreme Court.

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-08 10:17 AM | Reply

They did CU

The 1st Amendment prohibits the federal government from burning books.

decided that the part of the 2nd Amendment that mentions militia is unnecessary to gun ownership

Parse this all day long: "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

they recently decided gerrymandering was ok...

It's been in existence since this country was founded. Don't like gerrymandering? Fix it. California has. So has Michigan. This isn't something the court has the power to fix.

#10 | POSTED BY DANNI

You have consistently viewed court decisions solely on the basis of delivering your preferred political outcome, Constitution, precedent, case-law ALL be damned.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-08 10:26 AM | Reply

Two Mass Shootings in Chicago Over Weekend, More Than 1,500 Shot in 2019...White Nationalists?

#5 | Posted by Greatamerican

That would be Poverty + Prohibition + Organized Crime (aka Gang Violence)... Did you actually read the article or trying to play Russian Troll? He didn't say neo-nazis were the cause of all violence. However look at the mass shooting and how many were White men and on top of that white supremacists.

Heh it just hit me RT - great name for a Russian "news" agency that is literally all propaganda.

#14 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-08-08 10:30 AM | Reply

"You have consistently viewed court decisions solely on the basis of delivering your preferred political outcome, Constitution, precedent, case-law ALL be damned. "

I have watched our nation be controlled increasingly by the rich due to decisions of the right wing court and, yes, I am opposed to most of the decisions made by them. Under the lie of "Originalism" they regularly pretend corporations are people. The founders are rolling in their graves over that. Do you honestly believe the Founding Fathers considered the Great East India Tea Company to be a person?

#15 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-08 10:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, you are blaming 5 justices who currently sit on the court for an opinion that was rendered decades ago?

Are you really that blindly partisan?

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-08 10:46 AM | Reply

Danni,

Do you realize you are echoing Clarence Thomas regarding following precedent (in your stance I'm referring to corporate personhood)?

Here is what he recently said: "When faced with a demonstrably erroneous precedent, my rule is simple: We should not follow it."

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-08 10:54 AM | Reply

We should overturn Marbury vs. Madison and fix our country.

#11 | POSTED BY DANNI

Fix our country by writing laws that violate the Constitution?

This is the primary part of that ruling:

"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void."

Amen.

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-08 10:59 AM | Reply

""All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void."

I have always thought the courts should judge law suits, criminal charges, etc. but not have the power to overrule Congress and it is not in the Constitution, they gave themselves the power to throw out laws passed by Congress and made themselves not a co-equal branch of government but the most powerful branch of government, sitting for life in positions almost as monarchs. The conservative majority has even overruled elections as in Bush v Gore. Realize, we would never have invaded and occupied Iraq had Bush not been awarded the Presidency. So many things would be different today had not the conservative majority been so deeply involved in our politics. They are simply an arm of the Republican Party, totally political and totally corrupt.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-08 11:22 AM | Reply

Good News: Reformed White Nationalist

#20 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-08 11:30 AM | Reply

"This nation wont know peace as long as fox news is on the air.

#2 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

Um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this country has seen only 17 years of peace in her history. Fox hasn't been around nearly that long. So that's yet another bogey man under your bed out to get you that you can forget about.,

#3 | Posted by goatman

Did I ever say this nation had a peaceful record except for during fox new's tenure?

You're great at arguing against things no one said.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-08 11:57 AM | Reply

Much like Donald Trump, FOX News has shown their true colors these past 2+ years so we already know they're without shame. I expect they'll continue to demonize and vilify any Democrat who sits in the Oval Office just as they did to Barack Obama.

They just won't have the bully pulpit to back them up ... and vice versa.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac

But but but biden says that after trump is gone america will go back to normal.

One more sign that he is the WRONG moron to nominate right now.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-08 11:57 AM | Reply

Two Mass Shootings in Chicago Over Weekend, More Than 1,500 Shot in 2019...White Nationalists?

#5 | Posted by Greatamerican

Nope. Just more violence resulting from conservative policies of redlining, the drug war, segregation, defunding education, and widespread gun sales.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-08 11:59 AM | Reply

Nope. Just more violence resulting from conservative policies of redlining, the drug war, segregation, defunding education, and widespread gun sales.

#23 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

...it a city run by Democrats for decades. Naturally you blame conservatives for that.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-08 12:02 PM | Reply

--Just more violence resulting from conservative policies of redlining, the drug war, segregation, defunding education, and widespread gun sales.

And Fox News!

#25 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-08 12:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

...and Breitbart comments!

#26 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-08 12:26 PM | Reply

...it a city run by Democrats for decades. Naturally you blame conservatives for that.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ

Show me a city that can defy overwhelming national policies. Where is this walled off city that searches every person and vehicle at the gates for guns, is immune to national laws and economics?

If gang violence is the fault of local democrats then the opiate epidemic in west viriginia, far more deadly, is the fault of local republicans right?

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-08 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--Just more violence resulting from conservative policies of redlining, the drug war, segregation, defunding education, and widespread gun sales.

And Fox News!

#25 | Posted by nullifidian

You're starting to learn.

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-08 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#24 | Posted by JeffJ

Can you actually name any major city run by Republicans for decades?

#29 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-08-08 12:30 PM | Reply

Can you actually name any major city run by Republicans for decades?
#29 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

Salt Lake City.

We have a Dem mayor, Jackie Biskupski, also the first lesbian mayor, but she has limited power. She's actually done a pretty good job overall, but she's faced some occasional blowback over working with police and conservatives. She was able to get the new homeless shelters passed and built, to close down the old one downtown. But was criticized for her assistance in the big sweeps to clear out Pioneer Park of dealers and homeless.

Apart from that, republicans run this entire valley, even where there's a democrat official in charge. On top of that, the Mormon Church runs the republicans here. Even on voter referendums that get passed, they change it after the fact to tamp down the original wording, like on the medical marijuana bill.

But essentially, republicans have run all the cities in Utah for decades.

I'll say this, SLC is one of the cleanest downtowns you'll ever see. Also, do NOT fk with SLC police; you WILL be shot dead. Not just shot or tazed, but killed. fact.

#30 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-08 12:47 PM | Reply

#29

I posted this in the Democratic Debate thread in response to the exact same question and you ignored it then, so I will re-post it:

San Diego
Miami
Jacksonville
Fort Worth
Oklahoma City
Virginia Beach
Colorado Springs
Mesa

Most of those cities are in the Top 10 cities to live in lists.

POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-07-30 09:30 PM

Please feel free to respond this time around.

#31 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-08 01:02 PM | Reply

--so I will re-post it:

Really doesn't matter around here. You document something, and the next day some idiot is asking the same question and screaming for a citation.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-08 01:06 PM | Reply

@31 1 in top 10 population 3 in top 20 population,

just saying

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-08 01:08 PM | Reply

#33

So the cities with the largest populations are "better" in your mind?

Just saying

#34 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-08 01:14 PM | Reply

No, larger populations lead to more difficulties, obviously.

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-08 01:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#35

And those difficulties usually are the following:

Higher crime rates
Higher incidence of poverty
Higher incidence of public corruption
Higher incidence of drug consumption
Higher incidence of single parent families
Worse infrastructure
Worse public schools

Common thread: Run by Democrats for decades.

#36 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-08 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Common thread: Run by Democrats for decades.

#36 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

And Speaks blames those problems solely on conservatives and Republicans because...hmmm...

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-08 01:26 PM | Reply

"Common thread: Run by Democrats for decades."

And if Republicans had solutions, that wouldn't be the case.

But you don't have solutions, all you have is blame.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 01:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#37 Speaks blames Trump without even looking at the problem.

#39 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-08 01:31 PM | Reply

But you don't have solutions, all you have is blame.
#38 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

LOL! The Kettle speaks!

#40 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-08 01:32 PM | Reply

#40 the shrieker shrieks, but doesn't say anything.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 01:34 PM | Reply

"Higher crime rates
Higher incidence of poverty
Higher incidence of public corruption
Higher incidence of drug consumption
Higher incidence of single parent families
Worse infrastructure
Worse public schools"

Coming soon to blue Orange County

#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-08 01:35 PM | Reply

I'll say this, SLC is one of the cleanest downtowns you'll ever see. Also, do NOT fk with SLC police; you WILL be shot dead. Not just shot or tazed, but killed. fact.

#30 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Yeah that's the beauty of living under fascism. Clean streets.

When I toured with a rock band many years ago, we had a show in downtown salt lake city. We had hours to kill before the show so we parked our tour van by a park. I got out and was sitting in the grass, reading a book, and drinking water from a clear bottle. I had long hair though so I was terrifying to the local fascists. Slowly I noticed in my peripheral vision different cops starting to appear all around me, talking on their radios. Then they all approached me at the same time, demanded to know who I was, what I was doing there, and demanding to sniff my water bottle.

If you dont look like you could be modelling khakis in a sears catalogue, utah doesn't want you there.

If that's the price of clean streets, I'll take the ---- covered streets of LA any day.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-08 01:46 PM | Reply

And Speaks blames those problems solely on conservatives and Republicans because...hmmm...

#37 | Posted by JeffJ

I blame problems on conservatives that conservatism caused - the drug war, iraq, segregation, widespread assault weapons...

I can see why you wouldnt want to call attention to these facts and would prefer to shoot the messenger.

#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-08 01:48 PM | Reply

Major urban areas have complex problems. You can't have someone in charge who views public transportation as some sort of sinister communist plot.

Republicans are best at running little crossroad towns, with some sort of late summer festival named after a local vegetable, and the word 'Daze'.

They balanced the budget with a $7 increase in library fines, and also turning down the thermostat at the elementary school just a titch...

Rutabaga Daze!

#45 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-08-08 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Coming soon to blue Orange County"

LOL, like parts of OC aren't already there.

Parts of OC have had those problems for generations.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 01:53 PM | Reply

#30 | Posted by SheepleSchism

I think you may have missed the point but let's go with "Ok - you are wrong." Since 1976 EVERY Mayor of SLC has been a Democrat. Also SLC isn't a MAJOR city - it's kind of mid sized. I looked it up to be sure but it's a mere 200k people.

While on the subject - Cleanest downtowns - It may be one of the cleanest but I have seen a lot of clean downtowns including in many liberal cities.

SLC Police - See that's a problem...

#47 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-08-08 02:00 PM | Reply

"Major urban areas have complex problems. You can't have someone in charge who views public transportation as some sort of sinister communist plot."

It's funny because it's true.

Republicans lose because they offer no solutions.

They can win sonetimes. Giuliani won in NYC. He banned ferrets. That's real leadership!

He was also very protective of illegal immigrants, and said the actions of INS "terrorize people," which means dumbass drag queen Rudy Giuliani figured something out that the rest of his party still can't.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 02:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

>Giuliani won in NYC. He banned ferrets. That's real leadership!

As I recall, NYC doesn't have alleys, so the trash pickup can get out of control on the sidewalks.

Ghouliani didn't allow that on his watch, did he???

> and said the actions of INS "terrorize people,"

C'mon now, that was then.

---

I remember reading a George Will column some years ago about trains, and the socialist fascination with them.
It was a little weird, because his focus wasn't just typical cost vs effectiveness. He kind of went 'off the rails,' if you will, into the loss of the individual, becoming one with hive-mind etc.
A little weird that mass transit makes republicans lose their ---.

I can see why though after riding for years. When you have to share your space with the general public on a daily basis, outside of an enclosed box, you fear and hate a little less.

#49 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-08-08 02:36 PM | Reply

#48 | Posted by snoofy

He also changed community policing and the NYC police department in a bad way that is still being dealt with. Rampant Stop and Frisk came into being with Rudy. BUT he did clean up Times Square and the rest of Manhattan.

#50 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-08-08 02:49 PM | Reply

--I remember reading a George Will column some years ago about trains, and the socialist fascination with them.

It's a good column. You collectivists love government cattle cars. Individual, private cars give people too much freedom. People can go where they want and when they want without consulting a government schedule.

#51 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-08 02:53 PM | Reply

It's a good column. You collectivists love government cattle cars. Individual, private cars give people too much freedom. People can go where they want and when they want without consulting a government schedule.

#51 | Posted by nullifidian

If you're a george will fan, here's another column you should read:

thehill.com

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-08 02:55 PM | Reply

"Freedom" is what Trumpers are calling gridlock now.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 02:56 PM | Reply

"BUT he did clean up Times Square and the rest of Manhattan.
#50 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE"

Times Square was better when it was full of common whores for the common man, not corporate whores for the 1%.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 02:57 PM | Reply

#49 | Posted by schifferbrains

Rudy was for "Broken Window Policing" - that means going aggressively after small crimes essentially. It's not all bad but it changed the mentality of the police department in a negative way in relation to the public.

What do ferrets have to do with trash pickups? I mean they will kill the rats in your apartment if you let them roam... There ARE alleys in NYC. More in some areas than others. What Rudy did was break the mafia's grip on trash collection in NYC - that's a good thing.

Honestly I mostly liked the results achieved by Guiliani when he was mayor but understanding how some of those were achieved now has made me re-examine my thoughts on the matter back then. I have a much more mixed view today of what he did and I lean more negative because of how he trampled over people and their rights. Anymore he's just full blown whack job though...

#55 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-08-08 02:57 PM | Reply

"Rudy was for "Broken Window Policing" - that means going aggressively after small crimes essentially. It's not all bad but it changed the mentality of the police department in a negative way in relation to the public."

^
Trump's immigration policy does the same thing.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 03:00 PM | Reply

--If you're a george will fan

I'm not a Georgetown Will fan. He's a snotty jackass who's pissed off that his Georgetown soirees are not the hot ticket they were when his good old boys were running the GOP. Doesn't mean he's never written a good column before he lost his privileges.

#57 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-08 03:02 PM | Reply

"People can go where they want and when they want without consulting a government schedule."

Is this how you feel when the "DONT WALK" sign lights up on the crosswalk?

How about when you're driving, and you come to a red light? Damn those government schedulers!

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 03:04 PM | Reply

Times Square was better when it was full of common whores for the common man, not corporate whores for the 1%.

#54 | Posted by snoofy

I have been there before and after, I will humbly disagree with you. I understand the 1% bit of the equation but to have a landmark area fall into squalor in the US was depressing. It was a symbol of the city in decline.

#59 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-08-08 03:05 PM | Reply

#56 | Posted by snoofy

That's a good observation. I agree - yes it does. It has also changed the border patrol in a negative way.

#60 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-08-08 03:07 PM | Reply

I was being nostalgic. I can see it being nicer for families, but overall I'd call it a wash.

To me it is now an homage to a civilization that props the wealthiest up, on the decline of the common man. That's what's worse about it. It's a token, feel-good measure. Most of America is a Times Square that needs revitalization, but since it's not Times Square, it's not a good photo-op. The entire concept of what happened to Times Square is crass; the type of thing that literally makes a child go "Wow!"

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 03:11 PM | Reply

BUT he did clean up Times Square and the rest of Manhattan.
#50 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

I heard he was literally putting homeless people from these areas on buses and just dropping them off somewhere far outside the city. Kinda like how we now put our toxic waste onto trains and dump it in remote rural areas of Alabama. Don't know if that's true.

#51 | Individual, private cars give people too much freedom.
Or maybe it makes sense to transport people en masse in densely populated areas, when they're all going to and from the same location.

Now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to put on my overalls (medium brown, not light brown) and get back to my collective farming. Too much freedom frightens me!

#52 |
"This is fear," Will said. "They're not worshipful. They are invertebrates. They are frightened."

Will just called Trumpers spineless.
SIC 'EM!

#62 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-08-08 03:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#51 | Individual, private cars give people too much freedom.

Just to return to this: I never feel less free in a big city than when I'm stuck in a car. I want to park the thing as soon as possible and get on foot.

#63 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-08-08 03:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Times Square was better when it was full of common whores for the common man, not corporate whores for the 1%.

#54 | Posted by snoofy

I remember those days. Walk in Times Square at night and you'd hear 'hey, baby, you lookin' for a date?' or be bombarded by dudes selling fake watches or pot. It was seedy as hell.

Guiliani takes credit, but the revitalization of Times Square/42nd St began long before he was elected mayor in the mid-90's. It was already undergoing changes in the late 80's.

#64 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-08 03:49 PM | Reply

#63 Nullifidian never feels more alive than when he's Blocking the Box in midtown Manhattan traffic.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-08 04:02 PM | Reply

Does anyone actually know any real white supremacists in real life?

These attacks obviously happened. There are definitely white supremacists out there, and no question they are deadly, but what are the real numbers we're talking about? To the best of my knowledge, I've never met one. In fact, until just a couple years ago, they seemed something that would only be relegated to some backwoods area of the Appalachian mountains, just a few ignorant hicks still living in last century, far from the majority of civilization.

Not that I haven't encountered racism. Even from my own parents on dating black and Mexican women. But even that hasn't been acceptable for a long time. Nor is it equivalent to this kind of violent extremism.

So much of this kind of reporting seems aimed at increasing the radicalization. Rage brings views after all, and those internet clicks to excite advertiser money are all that matter. I'm not sure articles like this are making things better. It just dredges up more racial tension, you have more white people being told they're bad, and how many times does someone have to be told they are bad before it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy? Why do none of these articles call for unity of groups and demonize only the responsible individual?

#66 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2019-08-09 05:07 PM | Reply

#66 | POSTED BY ZEROPOINTNRG

Would you be saying the same if this were about Islamic extremists? Trump and other white supremacists are responsible for radicalization. Not reporters. Perhaps we shouldn't be convincing angry white racists that the country is being "infected"?

White people aren't being told they're bad. White supremacists are.

#67 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-08-09 08:07 PM | Reply

-Show me a city that can defy overwhelming national policies.

Okay but you can STFU about red states.

You're going to excuse Chicago for their lack of leadership and voting preferences but Alabamans are morons who deserve their problems?

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-09 08:21 PM | Reply

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