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Sunday, August 11, 2019

A shooting at a mosque in Norway is being investigated as a possible act of terrorism, police say. A gunman opened fire on the Al-Noor Islamic Centre, on the outskirts of the capital Oslo, on Saturday. One person in the mosque managed to overpower the gunman and was injured in the process. The suspect was arrested after the attack.

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Mohammad Rafiq, 65....grabbed the attacker, holding him down and wrestling the weapons off the attacker.

LOL... It took a Pakistani old man to get this guy.

Even in New Zealand, the only person who almost got the attacker was from Pakistan, before being shot.

As usual, all the Arabs scream and huddle in a corner. Disgusting.

I don't think ANY other Muslim country allows gun ownership for citizens. So when they see a gun they just freeze.

My point is... if you want to ------- the American population, then yeah.. take their guns away.

#1 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-11 11:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What kind of jerk attacks a holy place? If they I tried on my grotto, Cthulhu would be pleased. Our Dread Lord would eat their soul last.

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-08-11 07:08 PM | Reply

*Well, okay, unholy place. Also, sorry for the Freudian.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-08-11 07:11 PM | Reply

If this -------- is like the last Norway shooter he'll be a cruel pagan.

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2019-08-11 07:26 PM | Reply

I'd need to hear what the shooter had to say before I passed judgement. he may have been the victim of muslims, as have so many in

the recent past, and it caused him to make a poor choice. while shooting people, in most circumstances, shouldn't be condoned, it is a

fact that violence frequently involves the muslim community when they seek to impose their 3rd world beliefs on a host country.

#5 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 01:41 AM | Reply

I'd need to hear what the shooter had to say before I passed judgement.

The fact that you think he could say anything that would alter your judgment for his shooting up a mosque makes you a reprehensible excuse for a human.

#6 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-12 01:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#6 | Posted by JOE

And I care how much ----- sauce you prefer on your opinion salad? I bet you're one of those anti 2nd amendment folks too

#7 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 02:03 AM | Reply

#5 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 01:41 AM | Reply | Flag: The opinion of a CRIMINAL

#8 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 02:06 AM | Reply

#7 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 02:03 AM | Reply | Flag: More opinions of a CRIMINAL

#9 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 02:06 AM | Reply

I bet you're one of those anti 2nd amendment folks too

Because i oppose mass shootings?

#10 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-12 02:13 AM | Reply

Free Speech... a concept that finds it difficult to gain a foothold in muslim countries.

repressive male dominated societies that accept female mutilation and the honor killings of women as religious dictates

ask a sunni his opinion of a shiite

#11 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 02:18 AM | Reply

#11 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 02:18 AM | Reply | Flag: Once more we bring you.. THE OPINIONS OF A CRIMINAL!

#12 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 02:20 AM | Reply

"Free Speech... a concept that finds it difficult to gain a foothold in jail... where I am from.".... ABLOCK-the-CONVICT.

Fixed it for you.

#13 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 02:21 AM | Reply

#10 | Posted by JOE

I certainly would never condone mass killings if for no other reason than it's against DR posting rules.

that being said, maybe the guy only had one person in mind and just became caught up in the moment.

#14 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 02:23 AM | Reply

the next suicide bomber...will that probably be a CONVICT or a MUSLIM?

the next honor killing of a woman...CONVICT or MUSLIM?

the next example of female mutilation...CONVICT or MUSLIM?

I served time in an american federal penitentiary....far preferable, safer and healthier compared to the average pakistani's life under islam

#15 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 02:34 AM | Reply

the next school shooter bomber...will that probably be a CONVICT or a MUSLIM?

Ex-Convict, ex-soldier or rabid Christian.....

I served time in an american federal penitentiary.

You are still in there, CONVICT.

No, it's not a bad dream. LOL

preferable, safer and healthier compared to the average pakistani's life under islam

So you LIKE being in jail!

How long has it been? LOL

#16 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 03:17 AM | Reply

yeah...everybody in american prisons can post on the DR at 2:30 am. as far as a death threat, i've taken your goat abuse privileges away

and that's worse than death for a pakistani who regularly and repeatedly, rapaciously rogers recalcitrant ruminants. HaHa

#17 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 03:39 AM | Reply

everybody in american prisons can post on the DR at 2:30 am

You tell us CONVICT... can they?

Or is it just you?

How much of your behind did you pledge to the guards?

death for a pakistani

Second "almost" death threat.

Can't help it can you? LOL

#18 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 03:53 AM | Reply

maybe the guy only had one person in mind and just became caught up in the moment.

Yeah, don't you hate when you get "caught up in the moment" and fire your gun at a bunch of innocent people? I hate when that happens.

Just admit you're as hateful toward muslims as this guy is. It'd be far less tiresome.

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-12 04:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe the Judge who sent him to jail was Muslim???

#20 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 04:49 AM | Reply

#19 | Posted by JOE

I'm not a fan of religion writ large...but islam is an incredibly odious burden on humanity in my opinion. i conflate them with various white

power groups, boko haram, pol pot and kim's NK regime. you seem to be offended by my stance, why don't you point out a place in the

world where muslims and their neighbors can agree. maybe you can cite some tenets of the koran that you find particularly pleasing.

explain why you single out my dislike for islam instead of trying to explain why sunnis hate shiites to the point of killing each other.

#21 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 04:52 AM | Reply

I'm not a fan of religion

You are not a fan of SOCIETY!!! LOL

Which is WHY you are in JAIL.

why don't you point out

Pleading with others to make a case?

tch tch tch....

#22 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 04:59 AM | Reply

sunnis hate shiites

Arabs hated Iranians/Persians (and vice versa) even before either of them were Muslims. DUH!

#23 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 05:00 AM | Reply

In two different threads, ABLOCK-the-CONVICT has only posted garbage that could have come straight out of TRUMP's behind.

I WILL call you out on it, don't you worry, CRIMINAL.

#24 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 05:03 AM | Reply

and i'll be here to comfort your molested flock and make sure to point to the idiocy of your arguments and the impotence of your god

#25 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 05:09 AM | Reply

#22 ... I'm not a fan of religion

You are not a fan of SOCIETY

who on the DR want's to go with their wife and daughters and live Saudi "society"
how about Iranian "society"
Pakistan "society"
Afghanistan "society"

I'm just fine with my societal surroundings here in missouri

#26 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 05:16 AM | Reply

AMERICAN society, my dear loser CONVICT.

You are in an AMERICAN jail... not in a Saudi, Afghan, Iranian, jail.

You can not fit into AMERICAN society.

Which is how you have so much time on your hands to steal bad poetry. Nothing else to do in jail, I guess... that and buggery.

#27 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 05:20 AM | Reply

I'm just fine with my societal surroundings here in missouri

Ummm no you are not. LOL

#28 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 05:20 AM | Reply

Do you all realize how disgusting it is to know that you're being fetishisized by a pakistani man?

TREMAIN obviously spends a large portion of his day trying to elicit comments from me.

He seems to have some sort of prison fixation that I ascribe to projection and masochistic tendencies involving restraints.

I wish that he'd realize that my responses would be the same on this subject, regardless who it was I was answering.

I don't like the message and the messenger should stick to sheep and goats, IMO

#29 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 05:35 AM | Reply

...YAWN....

Fart in the wind? Or a CONVICT talking?

Who cares?

#30 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 06:09 AM | Reply

One person in the mosque managed to overpower the gunman

Yep... confirmed.

The old guy used to work for the Pakistan Air Force.

I do not know if he was a pilot or ground crew or what. But he was PAF.

#31 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 06:38 AM | Reply

I wonder if the shooter was Hindu...that would certainly suggest some justification

#32 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 06:51 AM | Reply

We Pakistanis appeal to the Kashmiris, Kill any Hindu who settles in Kashmir

Sure. Why not?

This is how any occupied people will act. It is their right.

#71 | Posted by J_Tremain

#33 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 06:53 AM | Reply

or maybe he was an unhappy Norwegian who feels like his country is being invaded

#34 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 06:55 AM | Reply

#33 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 06:53 AM | Reply | Flag: Cute copy-paste by CONVICT, removing quotes

You think anyone will fall for that?

or maybe he was an unhappy Norwegian who feels like his country is being invaded

Maybe.

Who knows how the mind of a CONVICT works?

#35 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 07:19 AM | Reply

explain why you single out my dislike for islam

Well, you're posting sympathetic comments toward a guy who shot up a mosque. Your comments appear to be motivated by your animus toward muslims. Did that really warrant an explanation?

#36 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-12 08:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#36 | Posted by JOE

i'm in no way sympathetic. he's almost assuredly mentally disturbed. given the muslims behavior in europe though, I think this is possibly a triggered reaction to muslims similar to the el paso shooters toward mexicans, triggered by trumps comments.

it doesn't appear to me to be a coincidence that where there are muslims there is violent conflict. that's anywhere in the world

muslim culture seems to have an exceedingly hard time melding with western ways. and i do not like especially, how they treat women

#37 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 08:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

i do not like especially, how they treat women

You do not like Muslim women becoming Presidents and Prime Ministers? Which they do ... unlike America where no women will ever be President.

Some real values you got there CONVICT! LOL

#38 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 08:54 AM | Reply

i'm in no way sympathetic.

You've given him bizarre benefit of the doubt and invented "reasons" for his shooting, including that he may have "gotten caught up in the moment." You also said you'd withhold judgment until learning why he shot up the mosque, implying that there could be a valid reason for doing so. If that isn't "sympathetic" then call it whatever you want.

#39 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-12 08:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#37 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 08:42 AM | Reply | Flag: Person shoots up a Mosque, CONVICT blames the victims!

Man... I don't know what you are in jail for, but it must be for something real stupid on your part.

#40 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 08:56 AM | Reply

#39 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-12 08:56 AM

there's a difference between sympathy and curiosity...

if it turns out that his sister was abused on the street by muslim men because of the way she was dressed...i wouldn't sympathize but I could certainly see how he might go for some payback.

if it happened to my sister, i wouldn't go to a mosque with a gun. i'd maybe go about it differently and try not to get caught

#41 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 09:05 AM | Reply

TREMAIN...you know I'm not in prison now.

what I was convicted for was possession of 2700 lbs.of herb with intent to distribute

Just business

#42 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 09:11 AM | Reply

if it turns out that his sister was abused on the street by muslim men because of the way she was dressed

Interesting that you continue to vomit out these hypothetical excuses. How many mosque shootinfs have mirrored your revenge fantasies as opposed to simply being borne of prejudice/animus?

#43 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-12 09:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#43 | Posted by JOE

WTF is your point? let me see if I can make it clear. I wouldn't care if he blew up every mosque in europe. but i would be interested in what his motivation was above and beyond the obvious.
jesus christ man weep your crocodile tears all you want..it won't change a thing. i don't deal in fantasies, that's the realm of the religious.
why are you so caught up in obvious hysteria over what some nut case in norway did?

#44 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 09:26 AM | Reply

and besides pally...prejudice and animus have been more than enough to get you killed since time began. for some folks that's a feature not a bug

#45 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 09:29 AM | Reply

TREMAIN...you know I'm not in prison now.

Sez you.

2700 lbs.of herb with intent to distribute

Oh boy... a drug addict and a pusher!

This explains a lot.

#46 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 09:32 AM | Reply

i don't deal in fantasies

That's all you've posted in this thread. Hypothetical excuses for a man who deserves none of them. That's called fantasy. Reaity is waiting for you whenever you'd like to come back.

#47 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-12 09:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

if it turns out that his sister was abused on the street by muslim men

HE KILLED HIS SISTER, you stupid frakker.

Brain damaged muppet....

#48 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 10:00 AM | Reply

"if it happened to my sister, i wouldn't go to a mosque with a gun. i'd maybe go about it differently and try not to get caught:"

You must watch waaaay too many Hollywood movies-- you know, those manipulative flicks that show otherwise mild mannered white men and their innocent families being terrorized by darker-skinned thugs. Or you have, as your personal bible, a dogeared copy of Death Wish by Brian Garfield. I'm sure your revenge-porn fantasies are both exploitative and perverted.

Most "sisters" who are abused are abused by their family members anyway, whether they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish or atheist.

#49 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-12 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

remember the old cowboy movies and what they felt qualified as a "good" indian. well just substitute indian for muslim

#51 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 10:26 AM | Reply

Muslims really have gotten into old Ablockhead's block head. He must be a real snowflake.

Anyway, remember when all those Muslims killed 60 million Europeans in WWI and WW II-- which is within the lifespan of my great-grandfather, who celebrated his 104th birthday last month?

Me neither. Oh wait. Those were those peace-loving white Europeans that are now being overrun by the bad ol' Muslims! who will make them use halal pepperoni on their pizzas! Gee. My bad.

I better support my arguments with at least 200 links to YouTube videos that ABlockhead will never click on. But first...

I'm a Muslim sympathizer? OK. I'm you're huckleberry.

"remember the old cowboy movies and what they felt qualified as a "good" indian"

Not really-- were those movies the ones that came out back in the 30's and 40's when Nazi Germany was exterminating those 6 million Jews? Or was it those color westerns of the '50s and '60s when all those white people were killing brown-skinned Asians by the millions in the name of democracy?

Or was it in the 70s and '80s when they started killing the brown-skinned Latin-Amercians by the megabushel?

Or in the 90s and '00s when they decided to start foisting their mass murder upon the Muslim world?

Oh, wait-- this is about the evil bloodthirsty Muslims! Again, my bad.

Here are my links: I didn't click on yours but I trust you'll click on mine so you can counter with another delightful riposte:

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

#52 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-12 10:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Ablock is trying his gall-darned best to channel Bill the Butcher, unfortunately it comes across as rather histrionic. Daniel Day-Lewis did it much better:

www.youtube.com

#53 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-12 10:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#52 & 53

cool I guess...i get the ref to GONY and immigration but I don't accept the comparison. to start with I don't care where you're from or your gender or sexual proclivities but no skinheads..nazis or muslims. because they're trouble personified.
i don't know why you wouldn't watch the videos of muslims attacking folks in europe..we all know they do it
the irish didn't do 9-11
so as far as i can tell you're muslim apologists

#54 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 11:10 AM | Reply

"the irish didn't do 9-11"

And the Muslims didn't burn down the Customs House in Dublin back in 1921 (just to pick one small example from a 80 year long guerrilla war).

"so as far as i can tell you're muslim apologists"

That must be it, ABlockhead. Why? Because it is an easy and dumbed-down explanation for your general confusion when you woefully attempt to paint the troubles of a world full of colored nuances with the ideological broad-strokes of black and white.

Now go toss off to your wall poster of Anders Breivik.

#55 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-12 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#55 | Posted by pumpkinhead

when you grow up and leave momma's house you'll find out that some things are indeed black and white

i don't think muslims are a good fit for western culture and I don't have a problem saying so.

i believe in a womans right to choose and I don't believe in the death penalty, so go figure

#56 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-08-12 11:29 AM | Reply

i don't think muslims are a good fit for western culture

"Western culture"... as defined by a CONVICT? LOL

Even the Marx Brothers couldn't write better comedy!

#57 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 11:44 AM | Reply

"when you grow up and leave momma's house you'll find out that some things are indeed black and white"

Ad hom retort-- the final refuge of the vanquished. Funny coming from someone who chooses to live in misery.... I mean, Missouri.

I've been to enough countries around the world-- I don't need to list them because you probably wouldn't believe me anyway. I've even been to Pakistan. I didn't like it-- but I was 16 at the time so what did I know. It reminded me of eating fish-n-chips cooked in day-old oil in some heritage landscape in the West-Midlands, but with extra ginger and turmeric.

"i don't think muslims are a good fit for western culture and I don't have a problem saying so."

Because you are a nativist-- and people like you have always been and always will be, and your rhetoric always has been and always will be. Western culture is nothing more than a hodge-podge conglomeration of other cultures. It changes as fast as the seasons and it will continue to change as Muslims make up a greater percentage. I don't fight such a change. If my next door neighbor smells like a goat briyani that is OK, as long as I can continue to smell like Margherita pepperoni and Pabst Blue Ribbon.

" i believe in a woman's right to choose and I don't believe in the death penalty"

So you are an emasculated nativist. Thanks for the heads-up (Just kidding). I believe in the death penalty and both a man and a woman's right to choose their own form of oppression. I also believe in amendments outlawing astroturf and the designated hitter.

#58 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-12 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It reminded me of eating fish-n-chips cooked in day-old oil in some heritage landscape in the West-Midlands, but with extra ginger and turmeric.

Yep... that's us alright.

#59 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 07:46 PM | Reply

Pictures...

The old Pakistani dude bashed him in the face:

static.independent.co.uk

static.independent.co.uk

static.independent.co.uk

The guy who fraked him over.. white beard on the right:

static.independent.co.uk

#60 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 11:38 PM | Reply

Why does he look like an ugly girl?

static.independent.co.uk

Anyway, the mosque:

static.independent.co.uk

static.independent.co.uk

#61 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-12 11:41 PM | Reply

"In the past decade, extremist Hindus have increased their attacks on Christians, until there are now several hundred per year. But this did not make news in the U.S. until a foreigner was attacked. In 1999, Graham Staines, an Australian missionary who had worked with leprosy patients for three decades, was burned alive in Orissa along with his two young sons. The brutal violence visited on Muslims in Gujarat in February 2002 also brought the dangers of Hindu extremism to world attention. Between one and two thousand Muslims were massacred after Muslims reportedly set fire to a train carrying Hindu nationalists, killing several dozen people."

www.hudson.org

Point being, religious nuts are religious nuts no matter which religion they follow. They're all crazy and dangerous to the rest of us. Christian, Jew, Hindu, Muslim, you name it. They are all crazy. And they all can be dangerous.

#62 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-13 03:53 AM | Reply

"what I was convicted for was possession of 2700 lbs.of herb with intent to distribute"

My only question, did you have children? If not then that's your businesss, if you did then you are a POS.

#63 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-13 03:55 AM | Reply

after Muslims reportedly set fire to a train carrying Hindu nationalists, killing several dozen people.

And it later came out the Hindu nationalists had set fire to the train themselves to blame Muslims and that fire got out of control and they got themselves killed.

They are all crazy.

Crazy has nothing to do with any religion.

If you are evil, you will use religion OR ANYTHING to justify your evilness.

If you are crazy, you will use religion OR ANYTHING to feed your craziness.

Religion becomes dangerous when it gives a common platform to crazy people to collect in one place and feed on each other's craziness. But these days, the Internet does exactly that, a lot better. You no longer need religion to spread your crazy-virus... all you need is REDDIT and FACEBOOK.

#64 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-13 05:46 AM | Reply

Crazy has nothing to do with any religion.

Having said that, the Hindu religion is THE ONLY religion that teaches the CASTE SYSTEM.

This is the belief that if you are born into a janitor's family, you will ALWAYS be a janitor (enforced by law). If you try to become something else, a mob will burn your house down, kill your parents, rape you (if you are a woman) and then kill you.

As India has over a billion people, nobody notices these events that happen every day, unless you go out looking for them.

Because of the caste system, the Hindus see Christians and Muslims as worse than dogs.

Hence the trouble in places like Kashmir.

#65 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-13 05:49 AM | Reply

Upon independence from Britain, the Indian Constitution listed 1,108 castes across the country as Scheduled Castes in 1950, for positive discrimination. The Untouchable communities are sometimes called Scheduled Castes, Dalit or Harijan in contemporary literature. In 2001, Dalits were 16.2% of India's population.

Independent India has witnessed caste-related violence. In 2005, government recorded approximately 110,000 cases of reported violent acts, including rape and murder, against Dalits.

For 2012, the government recorded 651 murders, 3,855 injuries, 1,576 rapes, 490 kidnappings, and 214 cases of arson.

#66 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-13 06:02 AM | Reply

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