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Monday, August 12, 2019

Bolstered by strong support from independent and young voters, Sen. Bernie Sanders would roundly defeat President Donald Trump in a 2020 general election, according to a SurveyUSA poll, 50-42 -- in a hypothetical head-to-head contest.

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"The survey also showed former Vice President Joe Biden defeating Trump by the same margin."

Also shows Trump being beaten by Marjoe Gortner, CarrotTop, and the The ShamWow Guy.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2019-08-12 09:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

Also shows Trump being beaten by Marjoe Gortner, CarrotTop, and the The ShamWow Guy.

#1 | POSTED BY CORK

Give credit where credit is due.

If it wasn't for Bernie, the Democratic Party wouldn't have adopted his ideas and made them part of the DNC platform.

#2 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-12 09:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4


Wake me up when the polls start showing state-by-state results and take into account the Electoral College.

What are the results in the swing states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Texas, Wisconsin, etc?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-12 11:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Wake me up when the DNC hires lawyers to prosecute Republican cheating.

#4 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-08-12 12:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wake me up when the DNC hires lawyers to prosecute Republican cheating.

POSTED BY BAYVIKING AT 2019-08-12 12:00 PM | REPLY

I'll be married before then.

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-12 12:02 PM | Reply

www.vanityfair.com

Trump crushing is so yesterday.

#6 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-08-13 01:19 PM | Reply

I feel like SurveyUSA is probably operated by the Republicans...

#7 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-08-13 03:24 PM | Reply

Give credit where credit is due.
If it wasn't for Bernie, the Democratic Party wouldn't have adopted his ideas and made them part of the DNC platform.

POSTED BY PINCHALOAF AT 2019-08-12 09:38 AM | REPLY

Corky went full Hillary. Once you go full Hillary you are a lost cause.

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-13 04:22 PM | Reply

Corky went full Hillary. Once you go full Hillary you are a lost cause.

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr

Absolutism of any kind is a lost cause.

Whether it be pro- or anti-Hillary.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-13 05:19 PM | Reply

Whether it be pro- or anti-Hillary.

#9 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-08-13 05:19 PM | FLAG:

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-13 05:21 PM | Reply

""The survey also showed former Vice President Joe Biden defeating Trump by the same margin."
Also shows Trump being beaten by Marjoe Gortner, CarrotTop, and the The ShamWow Guy.

#1 | POSTED BY CORKY "

Remind me again what the polls showed on November 7, 2016 at 2300, an hour before election day.

That's right. And you are citing polls for an election 15 months away?

LOL. You're runny.

#11 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-13 05:26 PM | Reply

I'd put my money on Bernie over Biden.

Biden is a guaranteed Trump victory in 2020.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-13 05:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I know few of you will.

But I (very) highly recommend watching Bernie on Joe Rogan's show. It's extremely informative and is the reason I was and will be supporting Bernie.

Joe Rogan Experience #1330 - Bernie Sanders

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-13 05:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Biden is a guaranteed Trump victory in 2020.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack

LOL

Maybe.

I guarantee Bernie will give us another POTUS who lost the popular vote.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-13 05:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Remind me again what the polls showed on November 7, 2016 at 2300, an hour before election day.

That's right. And you are citing polls for an election 15 months away?

LOL. You're runny.

#11 | Posted by goatman

America has seen Trump as president and doesn't like what it sees.

If you look at Trump approval ratings, he's in deep doo doo.

- The GOP is way underwater in the suburbs, where elections are determined
- Women disapprove of Trump by WIDE margins
- Trump is seriously underwater in the Midwest states whose 77,000 votes gave him the election
- He's even underwater in states like AZ, OH, FL, GA, VA, and IA, all of which he won in 2016

State by state approval (5000 registered voters polled every day) Hover over states for net approval:

On a daily basis, Morning Consult surveys over 5,000 registered voters across the United States.

morningconsult.com

#15 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-13 05:56 PM | Reply

I guarantee Bernie will give us another POTUS who lost the popular vote.

You can't make that guarantee. Nor do you have any facts or information to back up your assertion.

I'd suggest you watch the video in #13.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-13 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It is the Dems race to win or lose.

If have to be better than Hillary and she was how great?

#17 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-08-13 10:00 PM | Reply

So? They also said Hillary would beat Trump one hour before election day. So how could they possible be trusted to predict what happens 15 months before election day?

Poll people are funny critters.

#18 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-13 11:47 PM | Reply

"On a daily basis, Morning Consult surveys over 5,000 registered voters across the United States.
morningconsult.com
#15 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

So? What did they say on the night of November 7, 2016, the day before election day?

#19 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-13 11:48 PM | Reply

Yup vote for Bernie if you want to crush Trump, if you want to lose to trump vote for Biden and watch people stay home on election day

#20 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-08-14 12:22 AM | Reply

It was 15 polls in a row that Bernie beats trump not 1 poll

#21 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-08-14 12:28 AM | Reply

"It was 15 polls in a row that Bernie beats trump not 1 poll

#21 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSUM "

So? Assuming one poll a day, Hillary was predicted to beat Trump many more times that. Polls are not accurate an hour before an election. What possible meaning could they have fifteen months before?

#22 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-14 12:34 AM | Reply

"In the primary, vote with you heart. In the general, go with your head."

#23 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-08-14 01:40 AM | Reply

"So? They also said Hillary would beat Trump one hour before election day. So how could they possible be trusted to predict what happens 15 months before election day?
Poll people are funny critters.
#18 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-08-13 11:47 PM"

Who is "they"?
A specific poll, an average of several polls, or something else?

IIRC, an average of the latest national polls very closely matched the popular vote in the 2016 election. Of course, the popular vote is not how a US President is elected. That is done by Electoral College votes, which are determined State-by-State. The polling for several key States was enough off by enough to be incorrect (altho', within the polling's margin of error).

news.gallup.com

www.washingtonpost.com

fivethirtyeight.com

#24 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-08-14 03:04 AM | Reply

#24 | Posted by TrueBlue

Here's a state-by-state tracking poll from Morning Consult. They're polling 5000 voters a day.

Scroll down the page and hover over any state on the map to see the current net Trump approval in that state. He's in deep doo doo insofar as the Electoral College goes as thing stand right now. He's badly underwater in the Midwest, whose 77,000 votes in WI, MI, and PA secured the election for him. Also currently underwater in many other states he won in 2016.

Voters have had more than a couple years now to witness Trump in the job. They aren't liking it very much as things stand:

morningconsult.com

#25 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-14 04:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Here's a different state-by-state tracking poll released last Sunday, August 11th:

civiqs.com

#26 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-14 04:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The online polling firm Civiqs (linked above) has published a new set of state-by-state job-approval ratings for Trump as of August 11, and it shows how the president's overall standing (a 43 percent approval rating nationally, which happens to match the current RealClearPolitics polling average) might translate into electorate votes. It's not a pretty picture for the president, to put it mildly.

Civiqs shows the president's net approval ratios being underwater (i.e., negative) in 10 states he carried in 2016: Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Michigan, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Wisconsin. If that were to represent how the 2020 elections turn out, Trump would have a booming 119 electoral votes.

#27 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-14 04:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"And it's not as though he's on a knife's edge between victory and defeat in all these Trump 2016 states where he's doing poorly: He's underwater by 12 points in Pennsylvania, 11 in Michigan, and nine in Arizona, North Carolina, and Wisconsin. And there's virtually no indication that states that narrowly went for Clinton in 2016 are trending in Trump's direction: His approval ratios are minus 18 in Colorado, minus 15 in Minnesota, minus 12 in Nevada, and minus 27 in New Hampshire. These are, by the way, polls of registered voters, not just "adults," so they should be a relatively sound reflection of the views of the electorate.

In case you just don't trust this particular pollster, the other publicly available survey of state-by-state presidential job approval is from Morning Consult, and its latest numbers (as of July) are pretty similar. They show Georgia and Texas as positive for Trump, and North Carolina as very close. But all the other "battleground states" are quite the reach for the incumbent."

#28 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-14 04:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"On a daily basis, Morning Consult surveys over 5,000 registered voters across the United States.
morningconsult.com
#15 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

So? What did they say on the night of November 7, 2016, the day before election day?

Posted by goatman

There wasn't a state-by-state poll tracking Trump approval. There is now. He's in deep doo doo.

Morning Consult was off 1% from the final results in their last national poll of the 2016 presidential election. They're credible.

Why don't you start using Google? It's easy to use! You're constantly challenging other people on their facts/links, but never offer your own. Not good form from even a self-professed former high school debater such as yourself :)

#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-14 05:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why don't you start using Google? It's easy to use! You're constantly challenging other people on their facts/links, but never offer your own.

QFT

#30 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-14 06:58 AM | Reply

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