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Tuesday, August 13, 2019

Language like "invasion" and the "replacement" of Americans has increasingly become a regular part of Fox News broadcasts, Rush Limbaugh shows and other prominent conservative media.

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While I don't know whether or not the El Paso terrorist got the words he used from the Conservative media stars, or whether they all got the words from the radical extremist nationalist right....

This is a good example why I think the Conservatives doth protest too much when they rail against their comments being deleted from social media.

The Conservatives appear to be trying to bring extremist right-wing nationalism (and I'll add white supremacy) to the mainstream, and want it to be acceptable behavior.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-12 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

right on, Lamp.

#2 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-08-12 10:28 PM | Reply

El Paso Shooter Echoed the Words of Liberal Media

Patrick Crusius:
"The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations."
"In the near future, America will have to initiate a basic universal income to prevent widespread poverty and civil unrest as people lose their jobs."
"The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations."
"Corporations are heaing [sic] the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over harvesting resources"
"Fresh water is being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations."
"Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent."

#3 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-14 07:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

#3 your understanding of the motives of the shooter is shallow-- completely partisan in nature and limited in scope because you fail to understand how eco-fascism bridges the gap between modern day Republican talking points/calls to arms and old school environmentalism that was originally swaddled in the age-old American fabric of racism.

Google Madison Grant...

#4 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-14 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Fox news has done far more damage to this country than any terrorist group in history.

Putin was smart to recognize that america's achilles heel was the stupidity of the republican base. He didn't need a bigger military to bring us down, he just needed to convince right wing morons to do it for him.

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-14 11:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Putin was smart to recognize that america's achilles heel was the stupidity of the republican base. He didn't need a bigger military to bring us down, he just needed to convince right wing morons to do it for him.

#5 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

Hillary was a Republican? Who knew? She allowed the sale of 20% of US uranium to Russia. It may come beack to us one day, but in the form of E=MC^2. But you're a blind hyperpartisan Democrat so you don't care, right?

"The so-called Uranium One deal in 2010 handed Russia control of 20 percent of the U.S.'s uranium supply. Hillary Clinton served on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), which unanimously approved the partial sale of the Canadian mining company Uranium One to Russian nuclear giant Rosatom."

www.newsweek.com

#6 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-14 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hillary was a Republican? Who knew? She allowed the sale of 20% of US uranium to Russia.

#6 | Posted by goatman a

So what? Did she attack the concept of knowable truth and facts? Did she fill half the countries heads with paranoid fantasies and try to start a race war for personal benefit? Did she say she trusts putin above the conclusions of the US military?

PS that talking point has been debunked a thousand times. You keep using it because you can't defend trump, so you do what your cult leader does and just attack clinton instead.

"WHATABOUT HILLARYYYYY!"

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-14 12:44 PM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-08-14 12:44 PM | FLAG: Paranoid fantasies like russia, Russia, RUSSIA!

#8 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-08-14 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-08-14 12:44 PM | FLAG: Paranoid fantasies like russia, Russia, RUSSIA!

#8 | Posted by MSgt

The only paranoid fantasy is that russia DIDNT attack our election and trump DIDNT accept their help and DIDNT obstruct justice to hide it.

Learn to read, then read the mueller report.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-14 01:27 PM | Reply

--Learn to read, then read the mueller report.

Why bother? You guys have already posted the juicy parts, ad nauseum.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-14 01:35 PM | Reply

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Avigdore basically killed the entire premise of this thread with #3.

Now, let's do the Dayton shooter...

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-14 01:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Why bother? You guys have already posted the juicy parts, ad nauseum.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian

Maybe we can stop posting it when your cult stops making factually inaccurate statements about it. Are you ready to do that yet?

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-14 01:51 PM | Reply

"The so-called Uranium One deal in 2010 handed Russia control of 20 percent of the U.S.'s uranium supply. Hillary Clinton served on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), which unanimously approved the partial sale of the Canadian mining company Uranium One to Russian nuclear giant Rosatom."

www.newsweek.com

#6 | Posted by goatman

Lie by ommission. Sounds really scary but how does it help Russia?

1. The uranium can't be removed from the US.
2. It's not weapons grade uranium.
3. And Russia has enough uranium.

So do tell us why this matters?

#13 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-08-14 05:07 PM | Reply

"So do tell us why this matters?

#13 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT "

First of all, citation needed for your 1, 2, 3. But here is why it matters:

"On April 23, 2015, the New York Times wrote about the uranium issue, saying the paper had "built upon" Schweizer's information.

The Times detailed how the Clinton Foundation had received millions in donations from investors in Uranium One.

The donations from those with ties to Uranium One weren't publicly disclosed by the Clinton Foundation, even though Hillary Clinton had an agreement with the White House that the foundation would disclose all contributors. Days after the Times story, the foundation acknowledged that it "made mistakes," saying it had disclosed donations from a Canadian charity, for instance, but not the donors to that charity who were associated with the uranium company.

The Times also wrote that Bill Clinton spoke at a conference in Moscow on June 29, 2010 " which was after the Rosatom-Uranium One merger was announced in June 2010, but before it was approved by the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States in October 2010. The Russian-based Renaissance Capital Group organized the conference and paid Clinton $500,000.

Renaissance Capital has "ties to the Kremlin" and its analysts "talked up Uranium One's stock, assigning it a buy' rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was the best play' in the uranium markets," the Times wrote."

www.factcheck.org

And more in the link

#14 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-14 05:17 PM | Reply

El Paso Shooter Echoed the Words of Liberal Media

#3 | Posted by Avigdore

I guess that's one way to lie.

Take a part of the manifesto, ignore everything else and ignore what the shooter did...then analyze completely out of context and say it's liberal!

GENIUS!

Except where he says the Democrats are going to open the borders, warns against race mixing, etc. etc. etc.

If this kid had been inspired by the Left against corporations, environmental pollution, etc., he'd be out with Green Peace or the Sierra Club and you idiots would be posting memes about whiny liberal millenials.

No. He talked about a Mexican invasion and targeted Hispanics. You can't separate what he did and why he did it and then blame it on the left because he had a couple concerns about corporate power and the environment. That's like saying Hitler would have been inspired by PETA to committ genocide because he liked puppies and didn't eat red meat.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-08-14 05:21 PM | Reply

And more in the link

#14 | Posted by goatman

YOur own link says the deal gave russians a financial interest in the company. Not that the company sent uranium to russia. You probably bought the fox news propaganda about hillary selling uranium to russia didn't you?

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-14 05:39 PM | Reply

Shooter said he didn't support Trump but he clearly paraphrased Trump.

#17 | Posted by Tor at 2019-08-14 05:47 PM | Reply

I'll say it again: Now do the Dayton shooter.

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-14 06:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#18

They will never do it because it eviscerates The Narrative.

#19 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-14 07:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

RE: #3 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE AT 2019-08-14 07:26 AM

While those might be the thoughts/beliefs of the Dayton shooter, what's missing in this false equivalence, "whataboutism" is that the focus of the your presumption of the Dayton shooter's ire (corporations, polluters, etc.) were not who he targeted.

That's not the case for the El Paso shooter!

#20 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-08-15 03:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 your understanding of the motives of the shooter is shallow-- completely partisan in nature and limited in scope because you fail to understand how eco-fascism bridges the gap between modern day Republican talking points/calls to arms and old school environmentalism that was originally swaddled in the age-old American fabric of racism.
Google Madison Grant...
#4 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-14 11:02 AM

a) Nothing in the headline spoke to motive. Neither did I.
b) I assume by your ignorance that you haven't actually read the manifesto. Here it is again:
pulpitandpen.org

You'll notice, if you can be bothered to read it, that he listed those under the Economic Reasons and Political Reasons for his actions. He very specifically stated what his motives were, I included some of them in #3. You can argue all you like that the shooter was unaware of the shooter's motives for his actions. It would make you look stupid to do so, but you're free to continue the effort.

Avigdore: Here's quoted what the shooter said his motivations are.
Ignorant left: That's not his motivation!!!!

#21 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-15 06:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The only paranoid fantasy is that russia DIDNT attack our election and trump DIDNT accept their help and DIDNT obstruct justice to hide it.
Learn to read, then read the mueller report.
#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-14 01:27 PM

Trump accepted help from the Russians in the same way that you accept what the weather is going to be like today.
You don't control it. There's nothing you can do to stop it. You accept it.

The Mueller report does not indicate that the president broke any laws in his actions. The report, when tallying any evidence that may potentially constitute obstruction of justice, doesn't claim that the threshold has been met by that evidence to indicate that a law was broken. I fact is stated the opposite, that meeting that burden would be difficult due to the President's unique position as being able to perform the same actions he did (firing Comey) without corrupt intent. The DOJ has stated that the evidence that Meuller reported on is insufficient for an indictment. Mueller has not once contradicted that position.

You claim to have read it, but continue to attempt to mislead about that.

#22 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-15 07:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21, Avigdore, I know you really want to make even more of a fool of yourself, but I encourage you to google Madison Grant before you say things like "El Paso Shooter Echoed the Words of Liberal Media". This guy was echoing words of someone who lived way before the "liberal media" ever existed.

That wording you employed only shows your shallow and limited understanding of those motives mentioned in your post, which I never did deny existed in the first place. Unfortunately for you, you are a hyper-partisan water carrier and so you couch everything in terms of 'liberal vs conservative', and your post was an obvious attempt to pin the blame on the murderer's supposedly "liberal" POV, which makes you ultimately a shallow and untrustworthy source for anything remotely objective.

#23 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-15 11:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-08-14 12:44 PM | FLAG: Paranoid fantasies like russia, Russia, RUSSIA!
#8 | Posted by MSgt
The only paranoid fantasy is that russia DIDNT attack our election and trump DIDNT accept their help and DIDNT obstruct justice to hide it.
Learn to read, then read the mueller report.

#9 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-08-14 01:27 PM | FLAG:

Funny that we don't hear about Russia anymore except from those still living under a rock (Speak).

#24 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-08-15 11:54 AM | Reply

Speaks is still livin' the dream.

#25 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-15 11:58 AM | Reply

#25 The dream of low priced crack?

#26 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-08-15 12:15 PM | Reply

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