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Friday, August 16, 2019

China called looming U.S. tariffs a violation of accords reached by Presidents Donald Trump and Xi Jinping, vowing retaliation as Beijing also pushed back on Trump's effort to link the trade war with the turmoil in Hong Kong. Separately, a foreign affairs ministry spokeswoman expressed hope that the U.S. would leave Hong Kong as an internal matter for the Chinese government to deal with. Trump said Thursday that an agreement with China has to be on "our terms," according to Fox Business ... Less than 12 hours before the Chinese statement on retaliation, Trump appeared to float the possibility of another meeting with Xi. In a flurry of tweets, he defended his tariff decisions, praised Xi and urged the Chinese president to "humanely" resolve the protests that have gripped Hong Kong for more than two months. ...

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From the article:

..."Of course China wants to make a trade deal," Trump wrote. "Let them work humanely with Hong Kong first!"

China doesn't want external advice on how to deal with Hong Kong.

"Hong Kong is purely China's internal affair. We have noticed that President Trump has previously said that Hong Kong is part of China and they'll have to deal with that themselves. They don't need advice,"' China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in a written comments to a question about Trump's tweet. "We hope that the U.S. side will do as what they say."...


That's quite the rebuke of Pres Trump by China.

"Stinging" was one word I heard to describe it.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-15 10:20 AM | Reply

Trump's bad-faith negotiating tactics include a distraction or sudden additional set of issues for a counterparty to deal with. in this case, Der Dotard found Hong Kong as a cheap dodge to negotiating his way out of the ditch into which he drove the US economy. A year from now, in the midst of a recession, Orange Julius will declare that his attempt to help the people of Hong Kong was rebuffed by the Mainland Chinese, and so...wait for it...the Chinese are to blame for the state of the 2020 US economy...

#2 | Posted by catdog at 2019-08-16 09:04 AM | Reply

Whatever. Their ongoing efforts to steal or reverse engineer US technologies also violate the accord, to the tune of 100's of billions of dollars.

#3 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-08-16 09:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's almost as if Trump is a serial liar with a long history of erratic behavior and is well known for breaking his promises.

#4 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-08-16 09:31 AM | Reply

@#3 ... Their ongoing efforts to steal or reverse engineer US technologies also violate the accord, to the tune of 100's of billions of dollars. ...

I agree that is a very significant problem, one that needs to be resolved by both sides.

The odd thing is that China and the US were moving towards that resolution when Pres Trump took a turn. Now it looks as if nearly everything is off the table and we're starting from scratch again.

Pres Trump has been very erratic during the negotiations with China. He has had his aides agree to things, then he backs out of them, or changes them.

Unfortunately, China and Pres Trump's aides have been the adults in the room and Pres Trump has been, well, Pres Trump.

So given that, how would you propose to resolve China's "ongoing efforts to steal or reverse engineer US technologies also violate the accord, to the tune of 100's of billions of dollars."?

More of the same erratic behavior by Pres Trump, because that approach has worked so well so far?

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-16 09:40 AM | Reply

The biggest problem IMHO is that Trump isn't really trying to make a deal with China, he's just trying to use the dispute between the U.S. and China to inflate his own ego. He just needs to appear to be winning when, in fact, he's not accomplishing much of anything. Soy bean farmers lost their market and it did nothing to increase manufacturing in the U.S. It os a lose/lose situation all of Trump's making.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-16 10:32 AM | Reply

China can go suck on 1000 year-old eggs. We need to end our dependence on them. It's crazy to aid and abet their drive to global domination.

#7 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-16 10:40 AM | Reply

"Gilmour Full Flow Poly Hose Accessories"

Corporations make more money importing goods from China than by actually manufacturing them here. The American workers doesn't matter to them.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-16 11:25 AM | Reply

TrumpEconomics is a Failure

This means sheepy and the rest of the miserable crew will be busy with ad hominem attacks today

Venezuela!

#9 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-08-16 11:30 AM | Reply

Blah blah blah...China wants to be left alone to continue exploiting their own people and to make sure they can still manipulate trade to keep them the lowest cost provider of goods. Until they address that and start making strides towards conforming to the rest of the developed world, there is no reason to listen to them.

#10 | Posted by humtake at 2019-08-16 11:48 AM | Reply

@#7 ... China can go suck on 1000 year-old eggs. We need to end our dependence on them. It's crazy to aid and abet their drive to global domination. ...

Considering the exports to the United States, and other US-China entanglements, are only a portion of what China does internationally, I suspect if we do as you suggest we would only slow down China, not stop it.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is building a working trade structure while the US becomes more and more isolated.

China already is working with Russia in a manner that leaves out the US. Would a strong China-Russia alliance be a benefit or a detriment to a future United States?

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-16 12:04 PM | Reply

Whatever. Their ongoing efforts to steal or reverse engineer US technologies also violate the accord, to the tune of 100's of billions of dollars.

#3 | POSTED BY MUSTANG AT 2019-08-16 09:12 AM | FLAG: EYE ROLL

BOO HOO

Perhaps US greed showing up as wanting the vehicle for thier brilliant piece of "intellectual property" to be realized and in the hands od the masses should have been created closer to home.

Frankly they did it to themselves and honestly is just another case of US business hubris thinking you are going to teach people who have been competitive in trade since civilization began how to do it. What a bunch of wussies...

BTW the world "needs us" less and less every day.

#12 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-08-16 04:19 PM | Reply

#5 China won't stop. Google their 2025 strategy. There's a pretty good 60 Minutes piece about it.

#13 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-08-17 07:09 PM | Reply

One of the ways US imperial power is in decline.

Corporations make more money importing goods from China than by actually manufacturing them here. The American workers doesn't matter to them.
#8 | POSTED BY DANNI

WHAT! American workers are China's major market.

#14 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-17 07:36 PM | Reply

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