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Thursday, August 15, 2019

Israel said Thursday that it was barring two pro-Palestinian Democratic congresswomen from visiting the country, in a move that could strain relations between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Democrats in Washington.

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Good. No reason to let those haters in their country.

#1 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-15 11:38 AM | Reply

The "Israel first" crowd will really be pleased by this news.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 11:43 AM | Reply

No real surprise here.

Israel knows quite well that if you don't do what Pres Trump wants you to do, you are relegated to obscurity in his mind.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-15 11:50 AM | Reply

@#1 ... No reason to let those haters in their country. ...

Yet Pres Trump invites Leader Kim and Pres Putin to the United States.

Nah, what you cite is not the reason they were blocked.

Israel knows that they have to do what Pres Trump wants them to do in this instance.

But I have to ask, why did Pres Trump even tell Israel not to allow them in? What business of his was Israel's decision.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-15 11:54 AM | Reply

why did Pres Trump even tell Israel not to allow them in?

To use against them when it comes time for their re-election.

Unfortunately for Trump. The constituents who voted for them aren't as dumb as his average supporter.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 03:29 PM | Reply

"No reason to let those haters in their country"

No block to the "haters" tax dollars freely entering their country, though

#6 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-08-15 04:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

AIPAC is now supporting the two congresswomen.

#7 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-08-15 04:52 PM | Reply

Ask yourselves why they wanted to go in the first place since they have established themselves an anti-Israel, especially when considering the trip was being organized an organization run by a Palestinian extremist and Israel boycott defender Hanan Ashrawi.

#8 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-08-15 04:53 PM | Reply

"since they have established themselves an anti-Israel"

only in your feeble little mind

#9 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-08-15 05:14 PM | Reply

I think Israel taking $6.72 billion in American dollars every year buys access for any elected US official the right to ---- on Netanyahu desk

#10 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-08-15 05:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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"only in your feeble little mind

#9 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES "

Profound. For you, anyway.

Seriously -- are capable of anything but third grade schoolyard taunts?

#11 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 05:22 PM | Reply

""since they have established themselves an anti-Israel"

only in your feeble little mind

#9 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES "

Or do you think someone who says they get a calming feeling tinking about the holocaust isn't anti-semitic? LOL

www.npr.org

www.nytimes.com

#12 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 05:27 PM | Reply

This was bungled. Trump should have let them in to Israel and then barred them from re-entering the US.

#13 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-08-15 05:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

do you think someone who says they get a calming feeling tinking about the holocaust isn't anti-semitic? LOL
#12 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

No one said that Goat. From your own link:


The fight grew out of comments that Ms. Tlaib, the first Palestinian-American woman in Congress and a vocal critic of Israel, made to the journalists Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman. In thinking about the Holocaust, Ms. Tlaib, whose grandmother lives on the West Bank, said she had a "calming feeling" knowing that her ancestors had lost their land and their livelihoods in the creation of "a safe haven for Jews" after World War II " a statement that is not historically accurate.

"All of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post the Holocaust, post the tragedy and horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time," Ms. Tlaib said. "And, I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right?"


So why would you say what you did?

Perhaps because, from your Link:

Representatives Steve Scalise and Liz Cheney, the No. 2 and No. 3 Republicans in the House, seized on the words "calming feeling" in the headlines of back-to-back statements they issued Sunday casting Ms. Tlaib as an anti-Semite.

Goat. There is no way anyone would say they found thinking about the holocaust would give them calming feelings.

Seriously. You've been chastising posters about lying. Do us a favor and check your facts as well.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 05:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump can't ban them from the US like he wishes he could (they're brown!), so he'll beg the country he ----------- on a daily basis to to ban them from there instead. This is a political stunt he will try to use against Democrats in 2020, and Israel is disgusting for playing along.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-15 05:48 PM | Reply

Again, Goat, re quoting from you link:

"All of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post the Holocaust, post the tragedy and horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time," Ms. Tlaib said."

These aren't the words of someone who would say they find thinking about the holocaust to be calming.

Your other link is about AIPAC and when Congresswoman Ilhan Omar said Israel had too much influence over our government. Which made Republicans freak out.

So. Please. Educate yourself.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 05:52 PM | Reply

Netanyahu is a coward.

#17 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-08-15 05:58 PM | Reply

"So. Please. Educate yourself.

#16 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Funny how under other circumstances if someone makes a reference to Jews and their alleged money and control, the left freaks out and calls it anti-semitism. But if a democratice congressman does it, it's OK? I'll educate myself if your party learns consistency. Deal?

#18 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 06:02 PM | Reply

So. Please. Educate yourself.
#16 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Clownfart, the great educator.

who melts down and slings poo when confronted with illegal immigrant slave wages, identity fraud, and human trafficking.

Teacher, teach thyself.

#19 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-15 06:03 PM | Reply

"Your other link is about AIPAC and when Congresswoman Ilhan Omar said Israel had too much influence over our government. Which made Republicans freak out.

So. Please. Educate yourself.

#16 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Actually, the "freak out" was bipartisan. Take your own advise and education yourself.

"Omar ignited a bipartisan uproar across the country earlier this year when she suggested on Twitter that some members of Congress have been paid by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee to support Israel. "

www.foxnews.com

#20 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 06:05 PM | Reply

F**k Trump.
What a POS.

#21 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-15 06:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ask yourselves why they wanted to go in the first place since they have established themselves an anti-Israel, especially when considering the trip was being organized an organization run by a Palestinian extremist and Israel boycott defender Hanan Ashrawi.

#8 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-08-15 04:53 PM | Reply

Same concept of Reagan going to Moscow in 1988.

#22 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-08-15 06:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Israel let the founder of the far right proud boys visit .. where was the outrage?

"Gavin McInnes, founder of the white nationalist Proud Boys, was allowed to visited Israel in 2017. He described his personal animus toward Jewish people in a video shot in Tel Aviv that was originally titled "10 Things I Hate About Jews."

#23 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-08-15 06:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Funny how under other circumstances if someone makes a reference to Jews and their alleged money and control, the left freaks out and calls it anti-semitism. But if a democratice congressman does it, it's OK? I'll educate myself if your party learns consistency. Deal?

It's not my party. I have voted for 3rd party candidates in numerous elections. I'd be happy with more 3rd party Representatives at the local level.

More to your point. Yes. Democrats freaked out too. They love them some lobbyist money and understand the power of AIPAC.

More to my point, neither of these women have actually said anything actually anti semitic.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 06:41 PM | Reply

"More to my point, neither of these women have actually said anything actually anti semitic.
#24 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

No, nothing anti-semitic about this tweet from Omar. SMH

""Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel,"

#25 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 06:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

""More to my point, neither of these women have actually said anything actually anti semitic.
#24 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK ""

And of Tlaib:

"The Jewish human rights group singled out Michigan Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib for comments she made earlier in the month questioning the loyalty of lawmakers who were pushing a bill that would protect states that penalize Israel boycotters."

www.timesofisrael.com

Nah, no Jew hating here!

#26 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 06:50 PM | Reply

Those are supposedly examples of "racism" but Trump's overtly racist tweets aren't racist...
LMAO!

What a joke.

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-15 06:54 PM | Reply

This just in:

Women Who Don't Believe Israel Has Right To Exist Not Sure Why They Got Banned From Israel

Congresswomen Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar reported Thursday they were bewildered that they got banned from Israel, a country they seem to believe shouldn't exist at all.

"It's racism," said Omar in a press conference. "It's all due to racism. Well, that and a Jewish conspiracy. The Jews are behind this, for sure." (The evidence indicates she's correct on this assertion, a first for her accusations against Jews).

Tlaib agreed, saying she wanted to ask Jews about the Holocaust so she could relax and get a "calming feeling" while she was there.

"It just doesn't make much sense for this country that shouldn't even exist to ban us," she said. "What have we ever said against them, besides suggesting they are terrorists who deserve to be pushed into the sea?"

The women said they now had to change their vacation plans from hanging out with people they hate in a country they hate to somewhere less "Jewy."

#28 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-15 06:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

No, nothing anti-semitic about this tweet from Omar. SMH

"Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel,"

Is she talking about the plight of the Palestinian people?

Then she's right.

Stop shaking your head and try using it.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 07:06 PM | Reply

Why doesn't Omar go meddle in Somalia's internal affairs? Can't find the luxury accommodations she expects and deserves as an esteemed member of congress? Where's her compassion for Somalians?

#30 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-15 07:07 PM | Reply

Also, Goat, from your link in #26, here's the rest of Ilhan's tweet:

"What is really important to me is that people recognize that there is a difference between criticizing a military action by a government that has exercised really oppressive policies and being offensive or attacking to particular people of faith," said Omar.

She was addressing Israel's treatment of Palestine.

Not the Jewish religion.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 07:11 PM | Reply

And of Tlaib:

"The Jewish human rights group singled out Michigan Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib for comments she made earlier in the month questioning the loyalty of lawmakers who were pushing a bill that would protect states that penalize Israel boycotters."

And of Tlaib.

She's against a bill that would punish companies for boycotting business with Israel.

Which. Should be any private company's right to do so.

Right? What's your opinion? Should they or shouldn't they be able to pick and choose who they do business with?

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 07:15 PM | Reply

"She was addressing Israel's treatment of Palestine.

Not the Jewish religion.

#31 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Her opinnion of Israel's treatment of Palestine.

But wait, I though you said she was pro-Israel based on her "calming feeling" remarks. So does she like them, or doesn't she?

Anyway, the Wiesenthal Center isn't one to call out people or groups for anti-semitism without cause. They are more prestigious than that. So I'll go with them and not someone who clearly has an agenda on clearing these women's names.

#33 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 07:17 PM | Reply

You'll go with them even though you never heard of them before you started googling for more fuel for your deflection.

Trump remains a POS, disloyal to the Constitution and the principles of this Nation.

And Israel's become a land of snowflakes - worried about hurting Trump's feelings.

Pathetic.
Weak.
Embarrassing.

#34 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-15 07:21 PM | Reply

"Trump remains a POS, disloyal to the Constitution and the principles of this Nation.

Pathetic.
Weak.
Embarrassing.

#34 | POSTED BY YAV "

But the Democrats couldn't find any0ne better, which should have been a no brainer. It's their fault he's president.

#35 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 07:25 PM | Reply

But wait, I though you said she was pro-Israel based on her "calming feeling" remarks. So does she like them, or doesn't she?

Dude. You're talking about two different women and interchanging what they're saying.

Tlaib said the resettlement of Jews from Europe to Israel gave her a calming feeling, but also fought for the right of businesses to boycott Israel if they wanted to.

Omar criticized the power of AIPAC on our government and hoped the world would wake up to the military actions of Israel on the Palestinians.

Why you're so hung up over these two is beyond me.

But it's clear, you're being told you should hate them. So you're trying your best to do so.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 07:26 PM | Reply

It's not like they were going to go there anyway. The only way either of them would set foot in Israel is if they had a bomb strapped to their chest.

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-15 07:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'll go with them and not someone who clearly has an agenda on clearing these women's names.
#33 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

The only agenda is your repeated attempts to slander these women.

All of your sources refute your "points".

Perhaps you should stop listening to other people. Perhaps you should read what was actually said and make up your own mind.

So far you've lied, either consciously or due to ignorance, about everything you've posted.

Stop lying Goat. You don't even know what these women have said based on how abysmal you've done in this discussion

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 07:30 PM | Reply

Good to see the Left has allies.

"Former KKK Leader David Duke Calls Rep. Omar "Most Important Member" of Congress"

#39 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-15 07:32 PM | Reply

It's not like they were going to go there anyway. The only way either of them would set foot in Israel is if they had a bomb strapped to their chest.

#37 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Tlaib is a Palestinian American who's grandmother still lives in the West Bank.

There's a good chance she'd want to go.

By the way. Is it kosher to suggest a congressional representative go commit suicide?

Or was that your clever attempt at humor?

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 07:32 PM | Reply

"All of your sources refute your "points".

#38 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

LOL What an odd thing to say since I got my "points" from the sources you say refute them. You don't think the Wiesenthal center can be trusted? Or do you even know who they are and what they do?

#41 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 07:46 PM | Reply

Clown,

It was my not-so-clever attempt at humor.

#42 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-15 07:54 PM | Reply

What an odd thing to say since I got my "points" from the sources you say refute them.

No you didn't, or you wouldn't have been wrong about what was in them, what the women said, who said what, and why the Wiesenthal center commented about Tlaib.

Here's a hint, it wasn't because she didn't support the bill in legislation.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 07:56 PM | Reply

It was my not-so-clever attempt at humor.
#42 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

I figured it was. I wasn't going to comment on it.

Probably shouldn't of.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 07:59 PM | Reply

No, nothing anti-semitic about this tweet from Omar. SMH
""Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel,"

#25 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

You're right. That is not antisemitic anymore than criticizing the Vatican is antichristian.

#45 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-08-15 07:59 PM | Reply

"You're right. That is not antisemitic anymore than criticizing the Vatican is antichristian.

#45 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE "

Jews disagree with you, but what do they know?

#46 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 08:05 PM | Reply

#46 How many of them?

#47 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-15 08:09 PM | Reply

Clown,

At the moment I thought the suicide bomber smear was funny.

In retrospect I'm not sure that it was. I was trying for Chair humor and it came off kind of mean instead.

#48 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-15 08:13 PM | Reply

#47 Joe

More than 10.

#49 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-15 08:14 PM | Reply

Ask yourselves why they wanted to go in the first place since they have established themselves an anti-Israel, especially when considering the trip was being organized an organization run by a Palestinian extremist and Israel boycott defender Hanan Ashrawi.
#8 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2019-08-15 04:53 PM | REPLY |

Why would someone want to visit their parents who they haven't seen in years? What a wierd thing to want to do.

#50 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-08-15 08:24 PM | Reply

But the Democrats couldn't find any0ne better, which should have been a no brainer. It's their fault he's president.

#35 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-08-15 07:25 PM | REPLY |

Your full of BS if you claim that anyone who voted for Trump would have voted for anyone with a (d) after their name even if it was Jesus himself.

#51 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-08-15 08:25 PM | Reply

In retrospect I'm not sure that it was. I was trying for Chair humor and it came off kind of mean instead.

No!

I'm the awful person!

I shouldn't be stomping on comedy.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-15 08:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Your full of BS if you claim that anyone who voted for Trump would have voted for anyone with a (d) after their name even if it was Jesus himself.

#51 | POSTED BY HATTER5183 AT"

Many did. They are called "swing voters". It's who Trump went after and Hillary didn't becausse she was so full of herself, just as she was in the '08 primaries. Educate yourself.

www.vox.com

www.theguardian.com

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-15 08:32 PM | Reply

All snark aside:

Does anyone know why they didn't just join the official Congressional delegation of 72 House members that visited Israel last week?

It seems like they could have done everything they wanted to do (with the possible exception of praying at the Temple Mount) if they had done that.

#54 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-15 08:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's not like they were going to go there anyway. The only way either of them would set foot in Israel is if they had a bomb strapped to their chest.

Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-15 07:30 PM |

WOW That's what Trump would say.

#55 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-15 08:43 PM | Reply

Jeff, I think Laura is not so secretly in love with you.

#56 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-15 08:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Jeff, I think Laura is not so secretly in love with you.

Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-15 08:45 PM | Reply

Sorry he' not my type. He whines too much.

#57 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-15 08:51 PM | Reply

So politicians who don't believe Israel has right to exist not sure why they got banned from Israel?

Fascinating ....

#58 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-15 10:38 PM | Reply

Hey guys, when you:

- say a country should't exist
- sponsor legislation that will destroy that country
- compare the country to 'Nazis' & 'occupiers'
- say the holocaust of their people gives you 'a calming feeling'

Don't be surprised when said country tells you to ---- off.
twitter.com

I am with Benny!

#59 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-15 10:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Benny? Who?

Benny Arthur Johnson is an American political columnist, currently serving as chief creative officer at conservative nonprofit Turning Point USA. Johnson first rose to prominence as an editor at BuzzFeed, until it was revealed that many of his published articles were plagiarized and he was fired.

LMAO!

Of course you're "with Benny!"

This stuff just writes itself.

#60 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-15 10:53 PM | Reply

Of course you're "with Benny!"

Benny's statement idiot.....

#61 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-15 11:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yes. The statement of a plagiarist and a liar. But that tweet of his confirms your bias, so without questioning or thinking, you screamed "YES!! Oh YES! Benny! YES!"

#62 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-15 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES AT 2019-08-15 05:14 PM | FLAG: No, what is known, now days, as 'the squad' have made a number of anti-israel remarks [publicly] since taking office - apparently you do not stay on top of the news or you would have known that.

#63 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-08-15 11:13 PM | Reply

Benny Arthur?

What about "Benny Hill?"

#64 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-15 11:18 PM | Reply

Since it is such a simple question I am going to repost it:

Does anyone know why they didn't just join the official Congressional delegation of 72 House members that visited Israel last week?

It seems like they could have done everything they wanted to do (with the possible exception of praying at the Temple Mount) if they had done that.

#54 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-08-15 08:34 PM

#65 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-15 11:35 PM | Reply

Does the bloated------------ bring his book of Hitler speeches when he visits Israel?

#66 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-08-15 11:47 PM | Reply

Does the bloated------------ bring his book of Hitler speeches when he visits Israel?

He and Netanyahu take turns reading their favorite passages, while a young Palestinian child is tortured in the corner of the room.

#67 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-16 12:46 AM | Reply

On their way to visit a group that shares anti-Jewish conspiracy theories from Neo Nazi twitter feeds.

Just too damn funny.

#68 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-08-16 07:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Gavin McInnes, founder of the white nationalist Proud Boys, was allowed to visited Israel in 2017. He described his personal animus toward Jewish people in a video shot in Tel Aviv that was originally titled "10 Things I Hate About Jews."
#23 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-08-15 06:37 PM

Animus towards Israel isn't the same thing as calling for Boycott, Divestment or Sanctions against Israel. These 2 Democrat House members have done precisely that. Israel has a law (
en.wikipedia.org) that dictates that those calling for BDS against Israel be refused entry into the country.

So while McInnes' positions are abhorrent, they aren't illegal. Even if you think that the views of those House members are good and correct, they are still in opposition to Israeli law.

#69 | Posted by avigdore at 2019-08-16 09:19 AM | Reply

Your full of BS if you claim that anyone who voted for Trump would have voted for anyone with a (d) after their name even if it was Jesus himself.
#51 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-08-15 08:25 PM

You lied and displayed your ignorance on this subject yesterday(
www.rawstory.com).
Now you're showing your ignorance on a completely different subject but in a related discussion. Maybe you should skip this topic.

More than 1 in 10 who voted for Sanders in the primary voted for Trump in the general.
www.npr.org

#70 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-16 09:40 AM | Reply

That rawstory link should be this one: drudge.com

#71 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-16 09:54 AM | Reply

Israel unblocked her. She refuses to go now. Maybe grandma isn't that important afterall.

#72 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-08-16 10:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Israel has the right to exist only in terms of "might makes right", which is not and never has been an inalienable right. Because of this, a group that has grievances regarding its formation has the eternal right to try and destroy it, as long as that group continues to hold the grievance.

Israel is essentially a bathysphere, tethered to its surface vessel America, going slowly deeper and deeper into the depths of the ocean. Eventually, with enough external pressure, it will implode. When iot does, things won't be pretty, both on the inside and on the outside.

#73 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-16 10:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Chain of events:

She was against Israel and compare them to Nazis.

She is gigged on that and recants.

She proposed to enter Israel to meet with Palestinians who are against Israel.

Israel refuses. There is an outcry, they relent to her entering for humanitarian reasons, I.e. her 90 year old grandmother but on terms she basically can't campaign against Israel or incite riots and the like.

She decides there's no reason to visit her 90 year old grandmother after all.

The Left declares a huge moral victory.
www.fark.com

#74 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-16 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

She doesn't give a damn about granny. It was all about waging jihad against Israel.

#75 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-16 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Alternate headline:

U.S. Congresswoman banned by Israel (with trump's Approval) for suggesting Israel has excessive influence in US politics

#76 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-16 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's about time Israel stood on its own two feet instead of sucking up billions of American tax dollars

""- not a single DR "conservative" who incessantly demand you stand on your own two feet

#77 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-08-16 11:36 AM | Reply

Tlaib and Omar wanted to throw themselves down the Temple Mount steps with CNN in tow.

Their propaganda photo-op was denied.

#78 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-16 11:44 AM | Reply

#77 that is why they are a bunch of phonies-- American neoconservatism has been so entwined with the existence and well-being of Israel that they cannot help it-- they think it is all part of being a patriotic American.

I must say, Israel and its American zionist sympathizers (many from the evangelical Christian lobby) have done a hell of a job in brainwashing them. They are easy to spot and their arguments are easy to pick apart for the bunch of hypocritical -------- that they essentially are.

#79 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-16 11:45 AM | Reply

Alternate headline:
U.S. Congresswoman banned by Israel (with trump's Approval) for suggesting Israel has excessive influence in US politics
#76 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-16 11:35 AM

Why would you want to push fake headlines?
Neither is being kept from entering Israel for any reason other than violating Israel's BDS policy.
Israel has the right to refuse entry for any person who is calling for damage to Israel, either by violence or economics.
Lying with fake headlines isn't going to sway anyone's opinion and will only provide more evidence of your lack of honesty.

#80 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-16 12:39 PM | Reply

It's about time Israel stood on its own two feet instead of sucking up billions of American tax dollars.
But not just Israel, no more US tax dollars to any foreign nation until our budget is running a surplus in excess sufficient to begin a draw down of the national debt.

Awaiting retractions.

#81 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-16 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No reason to let those haters in their country.
#1 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Except they take our money and those haters are elected representatives of us and our money.

But yeah, other than that, no reason at all.

#82 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-16 12:51 PM | Reply

It's not like they were going to go there anyway. The only way either of them would set foot in Israel is if they had a bomb strapped to their chest.
#37 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Wow that's way off base and amazingly offensive coming from you.

Israel says Rep. Rashida Tlaib can visit grandmother after promising "not promote boycotts" on humanitarian visit
www.cbsnews.com

#83 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-16 01:03 PM | Reply

Animus towards Israel isn't the same thing as calling for Boycott, Divestment or Sanctions against Israel. These 2 Democrat House members have done precisely that. Israel has a law (en.wikipedia.org) that dictates that those calling for BDS against Israel be refused entry into the country.

#69 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

So, it is not just a few politicians that don't share our values of free speech. It is the whole country that is contrary to our values. (cue Republicans to say I am anti-Semitic for criticizing Israel)

But, no surprise that Republicans would support someone with such anti-American values. These types of laws would fit right in with totalitarian countries like Russia and China. Countries that Republicans want to model the US off of.

#84 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-08-16 01:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"Lying with fake headlines isn't going to sway anyone's opinion and will only provide more evidence of your lack of honesty"

It's completely 100% true, and I'm not here to sway anyone's opinion, only tell it like it is. Especially when it comes to exposing an obvious Israel apologist like yourself.

#85 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-16 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm with Avigdore; shut off the spigot.

Fix America.

#86 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-16 01:10 PM | Reply

Israel unblocked her. She refuses to go now. Maybe grandma isn't that important afterall.

#72 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT 2019-08-16 10:04 AM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 2

So they're going against their own law?

Israel has a law (en.wikipedia.org) that dictates that those calling for BDS against Israel be refused entry into the country.
So while McInnes' positions are abhorrent, they aren't illegal. Even if you think that the views of those House members are good and correct, they are still in opposition to Israeli law.
#69 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

#87 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-16 01:12 PM | Reply

The only way either of them would set foot in Israel is if they had a bomb strapped to their chest.
#37 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Several years ago I was waiting in the gate area to board a flight back to Nashville when I spotted one of the guys I know who's in the Nashville Bluegrass Band (they were the band in Brother Where Art Thou). He was napping, his banjo case leaning against the chair.

The jokes going around about banjo players went something like this: "What's something you'll never hear of? A banjo player with a cell phone" (because they aren't in demand)/a banjo player with a Mercedes."

So I lean over and say (I know the guy), "bet you don't have a cell phone. Who's gonna call you anyway?" Without opening his eyes, he pulled out a set of Mercedes keys and jingles them. We laugh.

10 minutes later they announce boarding. He's on my right, a TSA agent to my left. He says (loudly enough for the TSA agent to hear), "what did the one Palestinian woman say to the other?" I look around, uncomfortable.

He finished the joke, "does this bomb make my butt look big?"

The TSA agent's head snapped in my direction. She told me to follow her. Ruh, roh.

Luckily, she had a sense of humor. "I need to search one passenger on this flight anyway. Good timing"
As she began to search my carry on, she said, "you'll get to board first, so it's kind of a good thing."

Relief.

#88 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-16 01:28 PM | Reply

Everybody knows how important the law is to the Israelis... especially when it comes to all those settlements on occupied Palestinian lands...

#89 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2019-08-16 01:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Everybody knows how important the law is to the Israelis... especially when it comes to all those settlements on occupied Palestinian lands...

#89 | Posted by pumpkinhead

Israel's stolen back half the land granted to the Palestinians when Israel was founded.

#90 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-16 01:33 PM | Reply

cut off israels funding.

#91 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-08-16 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, it is not just a few politicians that don't share our values of free speech. It is the whole country that is contrary to our values. (cue Republicans to say I am anti-Semitic for criticizing Israel)
But, no surprise that Republicans would support someone with such anti-American values. These types of laws would fit right in with totalitarian countries like Russia and China. Countries that Republicans want to model the US off of.
#84 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-08-16 01:06 PM

Yes, like most of Europe, Israel does not have the same freedom of speech protections that America has. They enact penalties upon those who call for Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions. I'm glad you've finally come awake to that realization.
Please do hold your breath until some Republican meets the cue that you've assigned to them to meet.

Munich first in Germany to pass anti-BDS law.
www.jpost.com

Obama signs anti-BDS bill into law
www.timesofisrael.com

Do you feel like you've been owned? You really, really should.

#92 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-16 01:42 PM | Reply

So they're going against their own law? - #87 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-16 01:12 PM
Of course Israel has the ability to relax enforcement of a law for humanitarian reasons. Much like DACA, choosing when is appropriate to enforce a law is a part of the tasking of the government. Are you really this dumb or are you just pretending very convincingly?

#93 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-16 01:55 PM | Reply

I'll never understand why people here in the US are so strongly pro-Israel, even to the point that they consider as heavily as they do a politician's stance on Israel.

It's not hard to make the argument that they're just takers who give little in return, certainly in the massively disproportionate relationship between Israel and the US.

I'd like to think it's deeper than a Christian/Judaism vs Islam thing but I'm not terribly confident I am.

#94 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-16 01:59 PM | Reply

JPW - You are (perhaps) underestimating the religious right and evangelicals that drive the Israel first policy of the U.S.. They're counting on two things - their god's promise that any nation that stands with Israel will prosper, and a series of events that will lead to the temple being rebuilt, ushering in the Rapture.

It's integral in the fundamentalist belief system, no matter what actually happens to the jewish people themselves. They and Israel are only a means to an end.

#95 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-16 04:05 PM | Reply

#87

They provided a waiver for Humanitarian purposes, but Tlaib just said "fcck Grandma" and cancelled her trip.

#96 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-16 04:35 PM | Reply

So I will answer my own question:

Tlaib and Omar, as freshmen Members of Congress, were invited to go on the AIPAC trip but decided to skip it to take their own trip to make a political statement. Israel refused to play that game, and when Tlaib started complaining that they weren't allowing her to see her precious 90 year old Grandma, said that they would grant her a humanitarian waiver if she agreed, in writing, not to promote the boycott while she was there. She sent a signed letter, on Congressional stationary, agreeing to their term, then gets pissed when the Israeli Interior Ministry releases the letter. She has now cancelled her trip, effectively saying "fcck Grandma".

At first she refused to confirm that she sent the letter, but later admits that she signed the letter but is now saying the Israelis "forced" her to do it.

Tlaibs office released the following statement:

"The Israeli government used my love and desire to see my grandmother to silence me and made my ability to do so contingent upon my signing a letter " reflecting just how undemocratic and afraid they are of the truth my trip would reveal about what is happening in the State of Israel and to Palestinians living under occupation with United States support," she said in the statement."
Talk about making Isreal's point for them...not a good look for Rep. Tlaib.

#97 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-16 04:46 PM | Reply

Tlaib said "F**k Israel" and Grandma said "I couldn't be prouder!"

#98 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-16 05:05 PM | Reply

They both used much kinder words than what I posted.

twitter.com

The more I read, the more I like this woman.

#99 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-16 05:09 PM | Reply

Drama Queen

#100 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-16 05:32 PM | Reply

So they're going against their own law?

#87 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2019-08-16 01:12 PM | REPLY

Yes. Call it selective enforcement. They compromised. She told them get f'ed, but only a little more politely. I guess grandma isn't that important.

#101 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-08-16 06:04 PM | Reply

Israel unblocked her.

After forcing her to sign an oath stating she'd keep her mouth shut while in Israel.

She refuses to go now.

Because her convictions mean more to her than seeing her grandmother.

Maybe grandma isn't that important afterall.
#72 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Maybe she sees the bigger picture and is willing to make a sacrifice in order to fight for change.

#102 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-16 06:05 PM | Reply

Blackmail is OK with you. Check.

#103 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-16 06:05 PM | Reply

#103 - for #101, not #102.

#104 | Posted by YAV at 2019-08-16 06:06 PM | Reply

Tlaibs office released the following statement:

"The Israeli government used my love and desire to see my grandmother to silence me and made my ability to do so contingent upon my signing a letter " reflecting just how undemocratic and afraid they are of the truth my trip would reveal about what is happening in the State of Israel and to Palestinians living under occupation with United States support," she said in the statement."


Talk about making Isreal's point for them...not a good look for Rep. Tlaib.

I'm not sure how you can read that statement and reach your conclusion.

In my opinion, her statement is one of strength and character. She's sacrificing see her grandmother so she can fight for all Palestinians.

#105 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-16 06:10 PM | Reply

Are you really this dumb or are you just pretending very convincingly?
#93 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

I was asking for clarification.

If that counts as being dumb, I'm guilty as charged! No need convincing anyone otherwise, especially you.

#106 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-16 06:31 PM | Reply

Maybe she sees the bigger picture and is willing to make a sacrifice in order to fight for change.

#102 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-08-16 06:05 PM | REPLY

Sacrificing grandma for the cause. Sounds good.

#107 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-08-16 07:53 PM | Reply

Sacrificing grandma for the cause. Sounds good.
#107 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

No sacrifice is too big when you believe in what you're fighting for.

Perhaps it's lost on a nation of people who's biggest concern is getting home at the end of the day to Netflix and chill.

#108 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-16 07:59 PM | Reply

"Sacrificing grandma for the cause. Sounds good.
#107 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG"

It sounded good to you guys when it was Paul Ryan's plan to reform Medicare.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-16 08:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is nothing but political grandstanding. She figures she can can get a twofer out of it by trying to make Trump and Israel look bad. This was never about grandma. It was all about going over there and stirring up hatred for Israel.

#110 | Posted by willowby at 2019-08-16 08:40 PM | Reply

Do you feel like you've been owned? You really, really should.

#92 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

Uhh... no.

Germany only passed legislation declaring BDS "anti-semitic". Not really much teeth in that one.

The US law that you cited just put pressure on other governments not to sanction BDS, with trade concessions as the carrot. Again, not really infringing on free speech there.

But a bunch of US states have passed anti-BDS laws. They are getting struck down in the courts as unconstitutional (because they are unAmerican).

OTOH... Israel is BANNING PEOPLE FROM ITS COUNTRY for voicing their opposition to its policies (remember, it was Republicans who said that spending money is "speech"). Not really surprised snowflakes like you support the snowflakes in Israel.

#111 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-08-16 08:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Uhh... no.

Uhh..yeah, you should.

-Everyone else

#112 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-16 08:45 PM | Reply

She's sacrificing see her grandmother so she can fight for all Palestinians.

After, of course, throwing her principles under the Bus and agreeing to Israel's conditions for the waiver, then walking it back once the Progressives for Palestine lost their shht when it became public.

There is that...

#113 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-16 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"This was never about grandma. It was all about going over there and stirring up hatred for Israel."

Swing and a miss.

You guys are making this about hatred for Jews.
Not hatred for Israel.
Big difference.

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-16 08:52 PM | Reply

"You guys are making this about hatred for Jews.
Not hatred for Israel."

Read that sentence that I wrote again. Are you really that dense?

#115 | Posted by willowby at 2019-08-16 09:07 PM | Reply

"Anyway, the Wiesenthal Center isn't one to call out people or groups for anti-semitism without cause. They are more prestigious than that. So I'll go with them and not someone who clearly has an agenda on clearing these women's names."

Can I get a link to where the Simon Wiesenthal Center called Tlaib anti-Semitic?
I haven't been able to find where they made that claim. http://www.wiesenthal.com
I did find a link to an article that makes that claim, but they didn't write it.

#116 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-16 09:25 PM | Reply

After, of course, throwing her principles under the Bus and agreeing to Israel's conditions for the waiver,

Purportedly.

But. Either way. I don't fault her for wanting to go to see her grandmother and agreeing with the condition she would not talk negatively about Israel while in the country.

then walking it back once the Progressives for Palestine lost their shht when it became public.

I don't fault her for changing her mind.

This is all an actual nothingburger. Mountain out of a molehill.

If Trump hadn't drawn attention to this, begged Israel to ban Tlaib and Omar, in order to distract his deplorables, no one would even be talking about this.

But. Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps this is the big deal conservatives and republicans want it to be.

Perhaps you can explain what it is that makes any of this newsworthy.

#117 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-16 09:38 PM | Reply

This was never about grandma.

You've got nothing but speculation and derision.

It was all about going over there and stirring up hatred for Israel.

She doesn't need to go over there to stir up hatred for Israel. It would be much easier and safer to do it here in America.

Again. You've got nothing.

#118 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-16 09:41 PM | Reply

"This is nothing but political grandstanding. She figures she can can get a twofer out of it by trying to make Trump and Israel look bad. This was never about grandma. It was all about going over there and stirring up hatred for Israel."

So much doo doo. She was going to part of a Congressional delegation but was denied the right to do that because she disagrees with the Israeli policies towards Palestinians which are draconian and which should be opposed by all decent human beings. That her Grandmother is a Palestinian as was she is also a fact and your attempt to cheapen that relationship only serves to make you look like a hate filled piece of crap. Yes, she has opinions about how the Israelis treat the Palestinians as should every human being on the planet, it's simply wrong, it's evil and it should be opposed by all who claim to be in favor of democracy.

#119 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-17 07:52 AM | Reply

At the end of the day it has all worked out.
She's not going to Israel, for which Israel is grateful.
Israel, one of our great allies, is working hand-in-hand with our President and stands up to attacks on their national interests.
Democrats now have the perfect opportunity to call for defunding aid to Israel, all they lack is the spine.
We've all had the chance to watch these freshmen reps made to look foolish by the worst president in history.
Everyone has had a chance to stretch their 'make excuses to try to save face' muscles.
People are now less ignorant of what BDS is.
(Even though some think its a republican plan to make us more like Russia and China that Obama signed into law.)

#120 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-17 08:02 AM | Reply

She was going to part of a Congressional delegation
False
but was denied the right to do that because she disagrees with the Israeli policies towards Palestinians
False

#119 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-17 07:52 AM

Thanks for letting us know you were going to post 'So much doo doo. '

#121 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-17 08:11 AM | Reply

"Israel, one of our great allies, is working hand-in-hand with our President and stands up to attacks on their national interests."

What a load. Israel, under Netanyahoo, enjoys the support and especially the dollars we send them but the are not an ally. They would never come to the aid of American troops in danger. Israel is just a real estate conglomerate dedicated to the idea of removing people from their land and occupying it with their own people and anyone who objects is branded as an anti-semite by idiots like Avigdore. Netanyahoo wants to rid the occupied territories of their natural inhabitants and anyone half-way honest can see that and admit that, which excludes, of course, Avigdore.

#122 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-17 08:17 AM | Reply

"Thanks for letting us know you were going to post 'So much doo doo."

Glad to let you know. Your intellectual capacity is so lacking that, really, I don't care if you read my posts or not. Why don't you plonk me? It would be fine with me if you did. I honestly find you to be one of the most distasteful posters on this site. You must go to sleep at night boiling with hatred, I honestly feel sorry for your family.

#123 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-17 08:20 AM | Reply

@#123 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-17 08:20 AM
I don't plonk you because you are the worst combination of under-informed and over-opinionated.
You make false statements without evidence, and people might be swayed to believing what you are posting. Ignorance breeds ignorance unless someone gets involved.
You'll notice that I only point out when you've lied made factual misrepresentations of reality, right?
And I'll back myself up with citations and evdince.
You continue to post your opinions, based on mistakes that you've gleaned from who knows where, and vomit that up for people to read. Maybe you need the attention from people who are equally as misinformed, I don't know what is causing it.
But here is the simple truth that I've told you numerous times. If you stop posting false stuff, I'll stop pointing out your false stuff. I promise.

#124 | Posted by avigdore at 2019-08-17 08:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Israel blocking two Congress women from entering their country because of their opinions calls into question the idea that Israel is a free society and makes me think we should not be giving them our money. Screw Netanyahoo and screw Trump. We give them enough money to fund their socialized healthcare system while not giving ourselves the same benefit. They treat the Palestinians like prisoners, I agree with the two Congresswomen who want to boycott Israel until they decide, as did S. Africa, to end their version of apartheid.

#125 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-17 11:34 AM | Reply

Avigdore is a true Trumptile, if he doesn't like facts presented he just calls it fake news. Trump is famous for lying and his supporters are too.

#126 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-17 11:36 AM | Reply

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