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Monday, August 19, 2019

History will judge us harshly for this, and will look with particular venom at Trump's political opponents in both parties, who over the years were unable to win popularity contests against a man most people would not leave alone with a decent wristwatch, let alone their children.

Trump's original destiny was the destruction of the Republicans as a viable entity in modern American politics. Then he ran a general election like he was trying to lose, and won. Now his legacy is the spectacular end of America's fragile racial consensus.

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Matt Taibbi writes ...

Ten years ago, an African American won the White House in a landslide; today, the president is somewhere between a Klansman and Jimmy the Greek. The media legend is that Trump succeeds because he's a racist, but this undersells it.

Trump is 50 years behind the worst elements of the Republican Party, which spent decades carefully stuffing race under bromides like "states' rights" and "free stuff." The GOP now is in an all-out bucket brigade to rescue the dog whistle.

The rescue is failing.

We've gone from Trump being skeptical of Obama's citizenship to musing about "very fine" neo-Nazis to a Twitter version of "Go back to Africa."

In Cincinnati, even his most hardcore supporters talk about wanting him to shut up. "I wish," says one fan, "he would edit himself a little bit."

For all this, every time Trump seems headed for the dustbin of history, he bounces up again off the messageless paralysis of his Democratic opposition.

When Trump vanquished a giant primary field of Republicans in 2016, Democrats cheered.

When they lost the general election, they acted like it was an unrelated surprise event, an outrage to decency itself.

They remain ineffective as anything but a punchline to the Trump story.


Trump plays the race card up, and the rubes cheer -- yes, Trump can win in 2020 and any self-respecting American should be concerned.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-19 08:45 AM | Reply

I included an awesome lecture from historian Joseph J. Ellis ...

American Dialogue
www.youtube.com
[36:00 thru 42:45]

Historian Joseph J. Ellis uses Thomas Jefferson's own writings and shows why civil rights is actually a mid-20th Century effort in the context of 400 years of American racism.

19th Century abolitionists mostly thought that once the slaves were freed, they'd be moved to another country. Even Abraham Lincoln in the aftermath of Gettysburg said to black leaders (Frederick Douglas included) and told them "get ready to go" with the eventual Civil War victory.

This is why, as Ellis points out, Americans still struggle with civil rights. Why? Because there are large swaths of the population who will NEVER come to terms with the full implications of what civil rights means.

#2 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-19 08:48 AM | Reply

The Democrats have a better shot this time since they won't have Hillary to shove to the top of their food chain.

#3 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-19 02:34 PM | Reply

With articles like this, it's no wonder Trump will get re-elected. Instead of staring at Trump and wondering why people are voting for him, liberals need to look at themselves and wonder why more people wont vote for them...

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2019-08-19 02:39 PM | Reply

BOAZ

Trump is seriously underwater in many states he carried (barely) in 2016.

Tracking Trump: The President's Standing Across America

On a daily basis, Morning Consult is surveying over 5,000 registered voters across the United States on President Trump. Each month, we'll update this page with the latest survey data, providing a clear picture of Trump's approval and re-election prospects.

morningconsult.com

I'm Jachin, the GOOD pillar of democracy to your BOAZ. :)

#5 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-19 03:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

LOL

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-19 04:10 PM | Reply

FTA:

'The average American likes meat, sports, money, porn, cars, cartoons, and shopping.

Less popular: socialism, privilege-checking, and the world ending in 10 years.

Ironically, perhaps because of Trump, Democratic Party rhetoric in 2020 is relentlessly negative about the American experience. Every speech is a horror story about synagogue massacres or people dying without insulin or atrocities at the border. Republicans who used to complain about liberals "apologizing for America" were being silly, but 2020 Democrats sound like escapees from the Killing Fields.'

Democrats better start talking about the positive things they'd do; the environment, education and health care, or they will get trounced. It's time to connect with undecideds.

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-08-19 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Democrats better start talking about the positive things they'd do

They can't even run a city. If they had a few shining success stories to point at and a playbook,

...maybe they'd have something. But they don't.

So they're going to burn the country to the ground screaming racism, hiding illegal immigrants, and offering promises they can't keep.

#8 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-19 04:58 PM | Reply

So they're going to burn the country to the ground

Yeah yeah. We heard that moronic claim all eight years of Obama and yet he seemed to be doing everything he could to better the country.

So blow it out your ass.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-19 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So blow it out your ass.

#9 | POSTED BY JPW "

More quality posting

#10 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-19 05:23 PM | Reply

Per the article ...

DonaldTrumpdoesn't visit Middle America. He descends upon it. His rallies are awesome spectacles.

Gawkers come down from the hills.

If NASA traveled the country holding showings of the first captured alien life-form, the turnout would be similar.

The pope driving monster trucks might get this much attention.

The most common remark you hear from Trump voters is that he's "relatable" and isn't "phony."

Blue-state audiences tempted to howl at this should try to understand this phenomenon, because it speaks to a legitimate problem Democrats have.

Ronald Reagan once took working-class voters away from Democrats by offering permission to be proud of the flag.

Trump offers permission to occupy the statistical American mean: out of shape, suffering from gas, poorly read, anti-intellectual, treasuring things above meaning, and hiding an awful credit history.

Trump in this way is more all-American than Mark Spitz, Liberace, Oprah, Audie Murphy, and Marilyn Monroe.

He's a monument to the consumption economy. He represents fake -----, the short con, the tall tale, gas guzzlers, and a hundred other American traditions.

This is why the endless chronicling of Trump's lies does little to dent his popularity.

Trump's voters don't need to read PolitiFact to see what Trump's about. They see it in his waistline.

Few politicians in history have revealed what they are to voters more than Trump. Christ, we even know what the man's penis looks like.

"The cool thing about Trump," says 38-year-old Cincinnati native Jeremy Holtkamp, "is that it's just about being an American."


Democrats have to ------- learn how to talk to these people.

Don't mince words, get right to the point, and talk to them as a real person would.

Their problems are dignity and respect, jobs, and money ... in that order.

And above all, clearly tell them who's responsible for their problems and what you're going to do to help them.

#11 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-19 10:42 PM | Reply

Their problems are dignity and respect, jobs, and money ... in that order.

So let's just keep calling them deplorables, that's the ticket!

-The Loony Left

#12 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-19 10:49 PM | Reply

The most common remark you hear from Trump voters is that he's "relatable" and isn't "phony."

these people are idiots. Trump is the fakest con man possible. almost every sentence he utters contains one or more lies.

#13 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-08-19 11:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Trump in this way is more all-American than Mark Spitz, Liberace, Oprah, Audie Murphy, and Marilyn Monroe."

This is such BS. Trump is a con man, one of the best America has ever had, but that doesn't make him more all-American than John Wayne or PT Barnum:

In 2014, Trump Told Fox That An Economic Crash Would Make America Great Again

"You know what solves it, when the economy crashes, when the country goes to total hell and everything is a disaster, then you'll have a (chuckles), you know, you'll have riots to go back to where we used to be when we were great."

mavenroundtable.io

Trump is also a pathological liar and a supreme narcissist, who knows there is a sucker born every minute, but again that dooesn't make him as all-American as fireworks, baseball and apple pie.

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-19 11:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

these people are idiots. Trump is the fakest con man possible. almost every sentence he utters contains one or more lies.

#13 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Trump is also a pathological liar and a supreme narcissist, who knows there is a sucker born every minute, but again that dooesn't make him as all-American as fireworks, baseball and apple pie.

#14 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

I agree 100%

But that doesn't move the needle with people who have had their economic livelihoods squeezed out of them the last 40 years.

Instead of trying to win a political argument with logic and reason, Democrats have to tell them clearly why they're hurting economically, and tell them just as clearly what they're going to do to help them.

Remember, most Americans still don't have a college education, so anything coming across as high-minded simply won't work with these people.

#15 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-19 11:31 PM | Reply

"Donald Trump doesn't visit Middle America. He descends upon it. His rallies are awesome spectacles. Gawkers come down from the hills. If NASA traveled the country holding showings of the first captured alien life-form, the turnout would be similar. The pope driving monster trucks might get this much attention."

IOW, the circus is in town. Everyone loves the excitement of the spectacle: the big GOP elephant is gonna kick some little donkey butts, and the crowd goes wild.

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-19 11:32 PM | Reply

"Instead of trying to win a political argument with logic and reason, Democrats have to tell them clearly why they're hurting economically, and tell them just as clearly what they're going to do to help them."

This:

"Democrats have to tell them clearly why they're hurting economically, and tell them just as clearly what they're going to do to help them."

Sound like this to me:

"trying to win a political argument with logic and reason,"

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-19 11:35 PM | Reply

So let's just keep calling them deplorables, that's the ticket!

#12 | POSTED BYRIGHTOCENTER

I could talk to them.

But I don't have a billion dollars in loose change rattling around in my dresser drawers to back me up.

Come to think about it, probably neither does Trump ... but that's beside the point.

#18 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-19 11:35 PM | Reply

Trump is a showman. He doesn't have a really big tent, but he does put on a really big show. And he invites audience participation. "Lock her up" is GOP for "aaayyy-O".

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-19 11:39 PM | Reply

"Democrats have to tell them clearly why they're hurting economically, and tell them just as clearly what they're going to do to help them."

Sound like this to me:

"trying to win a political argument with logic and reason,"

#17 | POSTED BYGAL_TUESDAY

It's called telling the truth.

And Democrats can't be mealy mouthed about it.

America's productivity has nearly triple in 40 years, while wages have stayed the same -- that's a good place to start, but people have to be told why this happened and how it can be fixed.

Taibbi is reminding liberals and Democrats to understand why these people think Trump is genuine ... and that probably has to do with a level of pain and desperation that isn't understood by affluent types on the coasts.

#20 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-19 11:55 PM | Reply

"Taibbi is reminding liberals and Democrats to understand why these people think Trump is genuine ... and that probably has to do with a level of pain and desperation that isn't understood by affluent types on the coasts."

They think he is genuine because that's part to his con. He swears and exaggerates and name calls. It's all part of his schtick. Trump's true believers like that. He's fun to watch and interact with. Not boring and presidential as he likes to say. I don't see where Taibbi makes the case that they like Trump because they are so desperate and in so much pain.

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-20 12:11 AM | Reply

"these people think Trump is genuine"

I think they think Trump is genuine because he represents the conservative present day version of: Do what you wanna wanna do. Sock it to 'em! Let it all hang out!

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-20 12:20 AM | Reply

I don't see where Taibbi makes the case that they like Trump because they are so desperate and in so much pain.

#21 | POSTED BYGAL_TUESDAY

Taibbi references it ...

The most common remark you hear from Trump voters is that he's "relatable" and isn't "phony."

Blue-state audiences tempted to howl at this should try to understand this phenomenon, because it speaks to a legitimate problem Democrats have.


The back drop to all this is wealth inequality, no jobs, flat wages, rising costs to healthcare, housing, education, etc. ... this is what's hurting people, especially in the Midwest, and why they're willing to support Trump over Democrats who constantly talk about identity politics.

#23 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-20 12:27 AM | Reply

I think they think Trump is genuine because he represents the conservative present day version of: Do what you wanna wanna do. Sock it to 'em! Let it all hang out!

#22 | POSTED BYGAL_TUESDAY

Put youself in their shoes, be empathetic.

It's more about ecomonic pain, not winning a political argument.

#24 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-20 12:30 AM | Reply

Trump is a con-man?

That sounds like a politician.

Aside from that, when you define a con-man and listen to free college, is it a con or is it really going to be done?

I would love free college. I'd go back in a heart beat.

Tell me its real.

#25 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-08-20 02:25 PM | Reply

Trump is a con-man?

That sounds like a politician.

Aside from that, when you define a con-man and listen to free college, is it a con or is it really going to be done?

I would love free college. I'd go back in a heart beat.

Tell me its real.

#25 | POSTED BYPETROUS

Bernie Sanders and other Democrats are embracing free college. Europe shows it can be done
www.washingtonpost.com

How much did Trump and the Republicans dole out in free taxpayer money to corporations already making record profits?

#26 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-20 09:51 PM | Reply

Bernie and Biden only Democrats beating Trump in new poll
drudge.com

#27 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-21 08:11 AM | Reply

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