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Monday, August 19, 2019

The New York City Police Department announced Monday that it is firing Daniel Pantaleo, the officer who put Eric Garner in a fatal chokehold in 2014.

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Bad cop be gone.

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2019-08-19 06:53 PM | Reply

I'm waiting to see what Trump's reaction to this will be...

OCU

#2 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-08-19 07:23 PM | Reply

I'm waiting to see what Trump's reaction to this will be...

He's going to hire Daniel Pantaleo as a personal body guard.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-19 07:26 PM | Reply

Resisting arrest, heart disease and 350+lbs killed Garner. He died in the ambulance. The reason the cop lost his job was because DeBlasio was embarrassed at the debate.

#4 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-08-19 07:27 PM | Reply

All for selling a few loose cigarettes on the street. I wonder, if he had been a white guy, in a suit and tie, selling cigarettes, would the cops have even paid any attention to him?

OCU

#5 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-08-19 07:32 PM | Reply

I wonder, if he had been a white guy, in a suit and tie, selling cigarettes, would the cops have even paid any attention to him?

Were they looking to buy a cigarette?

Then possibly.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-19 07:36 PM | Reply

Have to find other employment versus your life.

Oh yea that will resolve it.

#7 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-08-19 07:44 PM | Reply

The ex-cop should be in prison. End of story.

#8 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-19 07:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Resisting arrest, heart disease and 350+lbs killed Garner. He died in the ambulance. The reason the cop lost his job was because DeBlasio was embarrassed at the debate.

#4 | Posted by lee_the_agent

He was overweight with heart disease every other day of his life. He didn't die til a cop choked him to death.

Since when is the punishment for resisting arrest immediate execution without trial?

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-19 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Jesus. 5 years to reach that conclusion. I didn't even realize it was over the same issue. Figured he genocided an entire subdivision to obtain such punishment, or at the very least was caught wearing his supervisor's doughnut as a ---- ring. Something so over the top reprehensible even other law enforcement couldn't overlook it anymore.

#10 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2019-08-19 08:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Since when is the punishment for resisting arrest immediate execution without trial?
#9 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I agree that the cop should be fired, and possibly even be charged with something.

However, had Eric Garner not resisted arrest that day, he would probably still be alive.

Fight your battles in court, not with cops. It can get you killed.

#11 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-19 08:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Figured he genocided an entire subdivision to obtain such punishment,"

Cops should only be fired when they genocide an entire subdivision? Got it.

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-19 08:47 PM | Reply

Fight your battles in court, not with cops. It can get you killed.

#11 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Listen to season 2 of the Serial podcast and learn about how the criminal justice system treats poor people, even innocent ones.

You used to be way better at faking your progressiveness.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-19 08:50 PM | Reply

Cops should only be fired when they genocide an entire subdivision? Got it.
#12 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2019-08-19 08:47 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Oh come on, even on the internet how could you miss the sarcasm?!? The doughnut ---- ring line didn't even clue you in? I am rather bitterly complaining about what it takes to get a cop fired, not setting the bar at neighborhood mass murder. I can't believe it took 5 years for what would get any ordinary citizen minimally manslaughter to result in just getting fired.

Let me guess, arguing in the other thread against the dem's moral panic and absurd willingness to label any opposition white supremacy left you thinking I'm some boot licking right winger? Hardly. I argue against the left now because they've gotten every bit as moralistic, dogmatic, tribal, and authoritarian as the old religious right. Their principals have changed. Mine have not.

#14 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2019-08-19 09:10 PM | Reply

"Let me guess, arguing in the other thread against the dem's moral panic and absurd willingness to label any opposition white supremacy left you thinking I'm some boot licking right winger?"

No, actually it was comments like this:

I can't tell whether he's ... joined the political suicide crew that thinks things like being punctual are white supremacy
#24 | POSTED BY ZEROPOINTNRG

To which I replied:

Yeah, cause that's what everyone on the left who objects to white supremacy has in mind. Especially Bernie who is descendent of Polish Jews, most of whom were murdered during the Holocaust.

PS If you can't tell about Bernie, maybe you have more in common with that embarrassing uncle than you would like to admit.

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-19 09:21 PM | Reply

Resisting arrest, heart disease and 350+lbs killed Garner. He died in the ambulance. The reason the cop lost his job was because DeBlasio was embarrassed at the debate.
#4 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT AT 2019-08-19 07:27 PM

No, the video clearly shows a choke hold.

Resisting? He's pretty heavy and from the video he wasn't resisting, but he did fall and was continually punched in the head even while on the ground unconscious. What I find equally disturbing is the cop reassuring people they did not witness a murder.

He died on the pavement, covered by cops. Remember why they showed up? Because Garner broke up a fight..

#16 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-08-19 09:52 PM | Reply

Gal,

All I can tell about Bernie is he has sold out to the establishment dems and is now comfortable with rhetoric calling for war on fellow citizens rather than talking about changing minds and uniting people. Democrats talk about Trump dividing people and fear mongering for votes, yet in their haste to draw up on opposing partisan lines do the same. And I dislike hypocrites more than even those who are just honest about being bad people.

Also, I've had a number of very non white girlfriends over the years who might contest my character lol, but would also contest the uncle comment. It's not about supporting racists for me - it's about the fact Dems lost me the moment they switched from defending the right to offend to defending the permanently offended.

But I didn't realize we were allowed to only agree with one political platform. Just as in that thread, I reject Democrat moralism and authoritarianism, here I do the same and reject police state authoritarianism. In my eyes, with more authority, police should have more responsibility as well. And this is an outright travesty of justice - an unauthorized choke hold leads to death, and it takes 5 years just to see him fired when as a LEO he should be held to a higher standard and be facing more prison time than an ordinary citizen.

And I'll thank you for not expecting me to toe any party's line.

#17 | Posted by Zeropointnrg at 2019-08-19 09:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"All I can tell about Bernie is he has sold out to the establishment dems and is now comfortable with rhetoric calling for war on fellow citizens rather than talking about changing minds and uniting people."

He's calling for a war on domestic terrorists who are white supremacists, i.e., on fellow citizens who want to eradicate their fellow citizens because of their skin color or ethnicity or religion. You think he has sold out to the Democratic establishment, but I think he is responding to the rise in white supremacy in this country. How do you propose Bernie, a descendent of Polish Jews who were murdered during the Holocaust, should go about changing the minds of white supremacists and getting them to unite with fellow citizens they hate? That is an outsized task and I doubt that one man, even one as focused and persuasive as Bernie, could do it.

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-19 10:16 PM | Reply

What do you imagine this war should look like, Gal? How does it play out exactly?

Apart from what the FBI is currently doing; arresting people making threats.

#19 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-19 10:22 PM | Reply

For starters it would look like a president who wouldn't retweet white supremacists, refer to neo-Nazis as very fine people or listen silently to chants of "Send them back." It would involve reinstating this Obama era policy and program:

The Trump administration has systematically rejected efforts to counter right-wing violence

After a review of grants provided by the task force, the Trump administration preserved most of the grants (which involved Islamic communities) " but killed a $400,000 grant to Life After Hate, a group that attempts to "deradicalize" young men drawn to white supremacism.

www.cnbc.com After a review of grants provided by the task force, the Trump administration preserved mos

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-19 10:50 PM | Reply

What do you imagine this war should look like, Gal? How does it play out exactly?
Apart from what the FBI is currently doing; arresting people making threats.
#19 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-08-19 10:22 PM

Are you suggesting a target or predicting one? Golly-gee, if only they hadn't lost their entire White Nationalist database!

"NOT A MISSILE", right?

So, monitoring them, particularly where they congregate sharing information. I've heard tell of a Border Patrol Facebook group that was passing information "leaked" from the White House regarding congressional visitations.. Officers with authority and positions to lose posted threats to the congresspersons life! It was "estimated" that nearly half of CPB is a member of this group.

I imagine they could have a wider variety of more underground connections than even the FBI itself.

#21 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-08-20 02:27 AM | Reply

In the video of the arrest (murder) I especially found the cop pushing his head into the concrete to be owed the same loss of job or worse. These men are not peace officers, they are simply thugs out to intimidate the poor.

#22 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-20 09:09 AM | Reply

Every law and regulation is enforced through the threat of violence up to and including death by men with guns. Think about that the next time you advocate for some new rule to make our lives better.

#23 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-08-20 10:58 AM | Reply

@#4 ... The reason the cop lost his job was because DeBlasio was embarrassed at the debate. ...

The reason the officer was fired was because he broke NYPD procedure, and someone died as a result.

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-20 11:57 AM | Reply

It took them 5 years. It was okay as long as DeBlasio wasn't made to look foolish. Then it became a priority. Garner died because he was an idiot.

#25 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-08-20 12:12 PM | Reply

The career criminal resisted arrest while being an obese slob.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Same for that ------ that stole a $2 bottle of beer.
Don't want to get shot? Don't take people's property.
Did you hear that, Michael Brown? Oops, too late.

#26 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 12:17 PM | Reply

#26 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Trollin' hard today.

#27 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-20 12:30 PM | Reply

@#26 ... The career criminal resisted arrest while being an obese slob. ...

What happened to proportional response?

What happened to due process before the death penalty is invoked?

The judge ruled it was homicide.

NYPD prohibits chokeholds.

By your logic, the officer also broke the law and should be punished.

Will he get the death penalty for the homicide he committed?

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-20 12:33 PM | Reply

27,
Nope, meant every word.

28
You try taking down a giant monster without chocking him...
I honestly don't know how some of these small cops (even a pretty big cop), especially women cops, are supposed to get a giant MF under control without seriously ------- somebody up. If a chokehold is banned then it's banned, but it seems like a pretty effective way to stop these giants or drugged fueled maniacs.
I agree if the officer broke the rules he should be punished.
NY doesn't have the death penalty.

My point remains, he was a career criminal resisting arrest and ---- turned south on him due to those facts. ---- him and ---- his family.
The cop ------ up, he should have maced him in the face and beat him silly with a baton I guess. Do NYC cops carry pepper spray or batons anymore or have they been neutered like many departments?

#29 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 12:42 PM | Reply

"Giant monster"

Your hyperbole does not afford you credibility.

"---- him and ---- his family."

Troll on, troll.

#30 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-20 12:46 PM | Reply

28
You're there. You're you (meaning however big you currently are). Garner resists. What do you do?
He's a monster of a man and he clearly wasn't going to go quietly.

My son watches cops. I see pretty muscled up cops go for a ride on the backs of much smaller people, even women. Short of breaking their bones, the best way to slow them down is a chokehold.

On a separate note, what do you do if you're one of those cops getting water thrown at them?
(Not cornering you, just asking)

#31 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 12:49 PM | Reply

30
I don't care about what you do or don't find credible.
It's only trolling if you don't mean it, and I meant every word.

He was a dreg of society and his family is looking for a payday.
"He was a goot boy. He was gonna go to college"
He was a bottom feeder and gets no sympathy from me.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

#32 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 12:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#29 ... You try taking down a giant monster without chocking him... ...

Follow procedure. Back off until you can re-establish control of the situation, calling in backup if needed. It did not look as if the guy was running away or anything. He was just standing there.

The guy was selling a few cigarettes. The law is more about thousands of cigarettes, i.e., the black market. There was question why the officer went after the guy in the first place for selling so few cigarettes.

imo, based upon what I've seen (and NYC being regional news around here, I've seen it a lot) it looks like the officer went in, got overwhelmed, and panicked when he could not get control of the situation. So he went to improper procedures, i.e., the chokehold.

Again, the death was ruled a homicide, and NYPD procedures were not followed.

Oh, by the way, in your tainting of the guy, you forgot one thing - due process and innocent until proven guilty.

By your logic, the lawbreaking officer should face the death penalty, right?

Homicide is a worse crime than selling illegally a few cigarettes, and you seem to be OK with the death penalty for selling illegally a few cigarettes...


#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-20 01:06 PM | Reply

#32

You're an absolutely adorable little troll. I've seen your admission of nefarious posting behavior. No reason to believe you now.

#34 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-20 01:07 PM | Reply

The guy was selling a few cigarettes.

No evidence that was true. He had a "career criminal" history of doing so, of which 101 is trolling as the reason he lost his life (in combination with resisting arrest; two clearly justifiable crimes that deserve execution on the sidewalk).

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-20 01:09 PM | Reply

....all this HATE that you have inside of you will take you to an "early grave," by the way that you express yourself....you'll get there in no time!
You don't know the meaning of COMPASSION...calm yourself down and live a healthy life...for crying out loud!

I bet you already have high blood pressure, or if not, it won't be long or you will really be in a chair from a stroke.....CHAIRBORNE.....

#36 | Posted by saginawmi at 2019-08-20 01:17 PM | Reply

33
Did you not read my 29?

#37 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 01:24 PM | Reply

34
This is why I had you plonked for the last year or so. You're ------- stupid.
When I troll, I troll. When I tell you I mean it, I mean it.

What you believe or don't is of no concern to me. Back to the plonk.

#38 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 01:26 PM | Reply

36
It's not hate, it's indifference.
I feel bad for people that get hurt in circumstances that are not in their control.
I will never feel bad for anyone that gets hurt doing something especially stupid or illegal.

Resist arrest and you're rolling the dice. I don't trust cops, and they don't trust criminals, so when two -------- meet things happen.
I know that, I assume you know that, so what's the problem?

Are you the type that ----- with a hornets nest and then cries about getting stung?

#39 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 01:33 PM | Reply

(in combination with resisting arrest; two clearly justifiable crimes that deserve execution on the sidewalk).
#35 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

Resisting arrest doesn't not justify execution, but you can be injured or killed unintentionally while doing so.

From everything I've read, his death was not intentional on the part of the cop. It was the result of two simultaneous events, 1) Garner resisted arrest and 2) the cop didn't follow procedure. He deserved to be fired.

But answer this, when is it acceptable to resist arrest? When are you justified to struggle and resist an officer?

#40 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-20 01:34 PM | Reply

One of these days somebody is going to open fire on these flash mobs and people will say "it was only a candy bar".
I'd say, "---- him. Don't take part in a riot and steal people's ---- and you wouldn't be dead".

#41 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 01:37 PM | Reply

@#37

Yes, i did.

I still think that by your logic the officer, who was found guilty of committing homicide, should get the death penalty (OK, life in prison).

I don't agree with that logic, but that is what you seem to be espousing - the death penalty is OK, even for a petty crime.

I don't remember the Constitution saying anything about big guys or dregs of society. Do you?

Innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately, that right was taken from the guy.

Who else are you going to be OK with the officer being the judge, jury and executioner?

I agree the officer may have been overwhelmed. But he took the wrong path, and an innocent person wound up dead.

Yes, innocent, because he had not yet been tried for the crime.



#42 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-20 01:38 PM | Reply

@#35 ... The guy was selling a few cigarettes.

No evidence that was true....

You are correct, it was never proven he was selling cigarettes. No evidence was ever presented.

Thanks for the correction.

#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-20 01:44 PM | Reply

Innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately, that right was taken from the guy.
Who else are you going to be OK with the officer being the judge, jury and executioner?
I agree the officer may have been overwhelmed. But he took the wrong path, and an innocent person wound up dead.
Yes, innocent, because he had not yet been tried for the crime.

#42 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Fair enough, only you need to comply with LEO to get your day in court. If they tell you to show your hands and get on the ground, then that's what you do.

If you fail to follow instructions, you may be unintentionally injured or killed.

#44 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-20 01:45 PM | Reply

Are you the type that ----- with a hornets nest and then cries about getting stung?

Cops are supposed to be smarter and less reactionary than a small insect.

#45 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-20 01:46 PM | Reply

he was a career criminal resisting arrest and ---- turned south on him due to those facts.

Was the alleged "fact" that he was a career criminal known to these cops? Or is it being used as an ex post facto justification for a cop's ------ conduct?

Nobody is asking you to feel sorry for Eric Garner. You can acknowledge that a cop did something ------ without having personal sorrow for the victim.

#46 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-20 01:51 PM | Reply

@#44 ... If you fail to follow instructions, you may be unintentionally injured or killed. ...

I do not disagree.

However, the police need to follow proper procedures in handling the situation.

That was the problem in this instance - the officer did not follow NYPD procedures, and a person was killed.

The police do not have an unrestricted right to kill.

#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-20 01:58 PM | Reply

#47 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

However, the police need to follow proper procedures in handling the situation.
The police do not have an unrestricted right to kill.

I agree. on both points.

That was the problem in this instance - the officer did not follow NYPD procedures, and a person was killed.

That's only half of what happened. The other half is that Garner resisted arrest. Which is something that we both agree can get a person unintentionally killed.

#48 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-20 02:19 PM | Reply

@#48 ... Which is something that we both agree can get a person unintentionally killed. ...

I'll agree that resisting arrest is not good, and can have dire consequences.

However, that's why there are procedures in place, to protect both the officer and the person being arrested.

Someone resisting arrest should not cause an officer to violate those procedures.

The procedures were not followed, and now one person is dead and an officer has his career ruined.

If the officer cannot control the situation because of someone resisting arrest, then the officer should call for backup. (or whatever the NYPD procedures call for).

Ideally, arrests should go like this one:

Video of Darien Police pulling over Yankees GM at gunpoint released
www.wtnh.com

But they all don't, and the police are trained to respond appropriately. There was an inappropriate response in this case.



#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-20 02:49 PM | Reply

- There was an inappropriate response in this case.

Agreed. First by Garner, then the cop.

Don't resist. Don't reach for your waistband. Don't throw fists. don't make threats.

Just do what you're told, and you'll get your day in court. The cop was in the wrong, but all Garner had to do was comply.

#50 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-20 03:03 PM | Reply

It's just as everyone says...

Them cigarettes will kill you...

#51 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-08-20 03:21 PM | Reply

42
Your problem is you're reading too much into what I said, and not comprehending the words I wrote.
I don't want cops being the judge, jury, and executioner. I don't think they're above the law.
I just don't care that some ------- got snuffed due to his own actions. Period.

If I taunt somebody, or act like an -------, whatever happens after that is on me, even if the person that exacted some measure of revenge was wrong also.
When 2 a holes meet, we all win.

In the Garner situation the cop may have killed him/been a pud, but if Garner wasn't a known entity, and resisting arrest, he'd be alive.

#52 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 04:16 PM | Reply

45,
They're supposed to be, but reality says they are not.
Are all lawyers as scummy as Avanetti (spelling)? Lawyers and cops get bad raps, sometimes it's true, others are stereotypes, but stereotypes exist for a reason.

#53 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 04:18 PM | Reply

46,
I don't need to admit anything, but I did in my f2nd post on this subject.
Why do you guys like arguing things that were never in dispute?

#54 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 04:20 PM | Reply

Bottom line is if Garner was a law abiding citizen he would have died of a heart attack by now.
The reality is he was a known entity and resisted arrest, and that is why he is dead.

#55 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 04:24 PM | Reply

The choke hold kills people. We've known this since the Civil Rights era.

Interesting to see who is blaming Garner's death on things that aren't the illegal choke hold.

It makes a crystal clear political fault line.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-20 04:29 PM | Reply

if Garner was a law abiding citizen he would have died of a heart attack by now.

Why does this matter?

Is it more okay for a cop to kill a fat person or something? Because eventually they'll die anyway?

#57 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-20 04:37 PM | Reply

"Is it more okay for a cop to kill a fat person or something?"

Close.

It's more okay for a cop to kill a criminal lowlife like Garner.

They're all blaming Garner, not the cop. That's how we can tell they're okay with it: by where they lay the blame.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-20 04:39 PM | Reply

You focus on that and not the fact you were wrong about me giving the cop a pass?
Jesus Christ you guys are ------- odd.

#59 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 04:40 PM | Reply

He was a fat slob with a record longer than your grandma's ---- hairs that got snuffed by a rule breaking cop.
Boo hoo.

#60 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-08-20 04:42 PM | Reply

They're all blaming Garner, not the cop.
#58 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Resisting arrest can be dangerous to your health. Don't do it.

It could result in an illegal chokehold or worse. getting shot.

You want to know how NOT to get choked or shot? Comply.

#61 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-20 04:46 PM | Reply

First they came for the fat slobs, and I did not speak out, because I'm a fat slob, but I'm not black.
--101Chairborne

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-20 04:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The same people who supported Zimmerman for taking out the trash are now supporting Panatelo for taking out the trash.

I would be surprised if it's not a 100% match.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-20 04:53 PM | Reply

The same people who supported Zimmerman for taking out the trash are now supporting Panatelo for taking out the trash.
I would be surprised if it's not a 100% match.
#63 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-08-20 04:53 PM

Precisely.

Their justification appears to be "resisted arrest", when I cannot see that having occurred at all.

And nobody has mentioned that the police hunted down and arrested the man taking the video - for taking the video. Police claim to have witnessed him slipping a handgun to the waistband of a 17 year old girl as they walked out of the Richmond on Central avenue. It is also a lie. The police in New Brighton seem to lie a LOT in the course of their "duties".

Chairborne - I agree that a choke can be a safer manner of subduing, but professionally trained officers knew that was illegal and performed it anyway. It appears that the police could do a lot of illegal and immoral things in their day-to-day activities with no accountability. It's sad that he lost his job, but having murdered.. And the way they are treating the kid Ramsey Orta who took the video - rat poison in the meatloaf! Six other inmates ate it and were bleeding from both ends. I wonder if they also have incriminating evidence that the police want destroyed? Also, when they arrested Orta "peacefully" in his apartment around 4am why did he need hospitalization immediately afterwards?! Those police seem completely out of control, imo.

This is another video after the takedown where police are pretending Garner is alive - they talk to him for four minutes, unresponsive because he's already dead, then an EMS comes in and plays along - "hey, buddy this is EMS". No response because he's not alive. They never performed CPR. Pantaleo seems happy and waves cheerfully. The citizens are shocked as the police concentrate on their pantomime.

You might not like Garner, but he is the victim. You might lick bootheels, but they are the perps.

#64 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-08-20 08:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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