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About 1 in 1,000 black men and boys in America can expect to die at the hands of police, according to a new analysis of deaths involving law enforcement officers.

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It's not a black versus white issue, this systemic racism.

It truly is white versus non-white. This data just supports what has already been established: Systemic racism exists in the U.S. criminal justice system in multiple facets.

#1 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-19 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

'a leading cause' is a meaningless statement.
All it means is that there is 1 cause less likely to kill the group in question.
If potato allergies is #999 on the list of 1000 things that can kill you, it is 'a leading cause'.
Someone is linking propaganda here.
Find an honest source that shows that THE leading causes are. Put the risk into an honest format instead of using scare tactics.

The CDC says that 'Legal intervation*' causes is the #10 cause of death for black males 20-24 & #9 for 15-19.

*Physical or other force used by police or other law-enforcing agents, including military on duty, in the course of arresting or attempting to arrest lawbreakers, suppressing disturbances, maintaining order, and other legal action. Includes legal execution and excludes citizen arrest.

I agree that too often young black males are performing actions that are leading to their arrest and the subsequent deaths that result from police trying to accomplish those arrests.
Did you have any ideas on what we, as a society, could do to help keep those young men from performing actions that lead to their arrests?

www.cdc.gov

#2 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-20 07:50 AM | Reply

^^^ Expecting utopian behavior in the face of rampant, violent repressive bigotry and racism.

Yea ok.

#3 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-08-20 10:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In 2016, the homicide rate for black male victims was 37.12 per 100,000

For homicides in which the victim to offender relationship could be identified, 75 percent of black victims (2,297
out of 3,054) were killed by someone they knew.
vpc.org

Like most causes of homicide, typically the killer someone the victim knows. In otherwords, your friends are the leading cause of death.

Choose wisely.

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-20 10:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

9/11=one day attrocity... Never Forget!
Slavery and Jim Crow = 500 year attrocity... Just get over it.

#5 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-08-20 11:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Now that is fake news.

#6 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-08-20 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now that is fake news.
#6 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Your acknowledgement as such proves the story true.

Thank you for your confirmation.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-20 01:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#5 We had slaves in the United States in 1519?

Quit being stupid.

#8 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-08-20 02:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The solution is what? That we should have a lot more black cops?

But then white people will start dropping like flies.

Maybe only Asians should be allowed to be cops.

Or be in the White House.

#9 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-08-20 03:27 PM | Reply

We had slaves in the United States in 1519?
#8 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

Sorry, meant 400 years, first slave in 1619.
Doesn't really negate my point though.
And atrocity only has one t.

#10 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-08-20 03:31 PM | Reply

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Death by resisting arrest.

#11 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-08-20 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

    Black Male Health Statistics

Black men live 7.1 years less than other racial groups.
They have higher death rates than women for all leading causes of death.
They experience disproportionately higher death rates in all the leading causes of death.
40% of black men die prematurely from cardiovascular disease as compared to 21% of white men.
They have a higher incidence and a higher rate of death from oral cancer.
Black men are 5 times more likely to die of HIV/AIDS.
Other Health Statistics
44% of black men are considered overweight
24% are obese

Black men suffer more preventable oral diseases that are treatable
A higher incidence of diabetes and prostate cancer
A high suicide rate. It is the 3rd leading cause of death in 15 to 24-year-olds

    10 Leading Causes of Death Among Black Americans (2016)

Heart disease (23.4% of total deaths)
Cancer (21.3%)
Stroke (5.6%)
Unintentional injuries (5.5%)
Diabetes (4.3%)
Chronic lower respiratory diseases (3.3%)
Homicide (3.0%)
Kidney disease (2.8%)
Alzheimer's disease (2.6%)
Septicemia (2.0%)

#12 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-20 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Homicide (3.0%)

And every one is shot by a white cop? Funny. Up yours rst.

#13 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-08-20 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12 But racism, bigotry, and unemployment and health related because of the former ills, ARE NOT REPRESENTED IN YOUR STATS.

Perhaps it has no effect.

Perhaps you want us to believe racism and bigotry are related ills are harmless?

#14 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-08-20 05:04 PM | Reply

And every one is shot by a white cop? Funny. Up yours rst.
#13 | POSTED BY SNIPER

I never expect the likes of you to actually read the article summary, let alone the actual article, but:

"About 1 in 1,000 black men and boys in America can expect to die at the hands of police, according to a new analysis of deaths involving law enforcement officers."

You're 'fake news' label just rang the irony alarm loud and clear.

#15 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-08-20 05:50 PM | Reply

news.umich.edu

#16 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-08-20 06:45 PM | Reply

"To pull those numbers together, Edwards and his colleagues turned to Fatal Encounters, a journalist-led system that collects and combines information on police violence that's available through news coverage, public records and social media. Although not an official database, it appears to provide comprehensive information on recent police killings and has been endorsed as a sound source of data by the federal government's Bureau of Justice Statistics, the researchers said."

Read:
We started with the end in mind, and then collected "Evidence" and pretended it was scientific.

#17 | Posted by Merovigan at 2019-08-20 10:00 PM | Reply

But hey, my opinion? Best way to not get shot by a cop is to not pretend (or actually be) a thug. As soon as that cancer exists black culture, we'll see a decrease in black mortality.

#18 | Posted by Merovigan at 2019-08-20 10:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

^^^ The root of the problem.

#19 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-08-20 10:18 PM | Reply

yeah, how dare that thug carry a cellphone while being black?

#20 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-08-20 10:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

>Shot by Cop Is a Leading Cause of Death for Young Black Men
"a leading cause" such clever weasel words.
Is getting shot by other young black men a leading cause of death for young black men that we are ready to acknowledge yet, or no?

#21 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-08-21 01:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Is getting shot by other young black men a leading cause of death for young black men that we are ready to acknowledge yet, or no?"

Serious question:
Why do you think they kneel?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-21 01:09 AM | Reply

Is the rate at which young black men are shot by law enforcement a function of systemic racism (or whatever other marxist explanation you all want to offer), or could excessive rates of criminality and hostility to authority on behalf of young black males possibly be a factor?

#23 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-08-21 01:10 AM | Reply

> Why do you think they kneel?
because they have no quantitative training and have been misled by leftist activists posing as journalists

#24 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-08-21 01:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

assuming the kneeling thing is about the NFL

#25 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-08-21 01:14 AM | Reply

"Is the rate at which young black men are shot by law enforcement a function of systemic racism (or whatever other marxist explanation you all want to offer), or could excessive rates of criminality and hostility to authority on behalf of young black males possibly be a factor?"

Probably a little from column A and a little from column B.

Excessive rates of criminality among the economically disadvantaged shouldn't seem unnatural or unexpected to a smart guy like you.

If you want to reduce the criminality, reduce the economic disadvantages. Also not rocket science.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-21 01:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

>reduce the criminality, reduce the economic disadvantages
this is a deeply marxist explanation. You need to show that other (non-black) populations who are in similar socioeconomic positions engage in similar levels of criminal behavior.

#27 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-08-21 01:23 AM | Reply

More white male talking points.

#28 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-08-21 01:43 AM | Reply

>white male talking points
lol I'm okay with this. Empiricism and philosophical arguments have been the historical bread and butter of societies which are led by white men. You should be ashamed for trying to invert the truth of the matter and turn these into negative points.

#29 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-08-21 01:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

America in 2019 is not a society led by white men (despite the fact we have a white male president); in fact, they are the most demonized demographic except for those white men who are also Christian. Blumpf's election is a symptom of these circumstances, not their cause. He's also been doing exactly nothing, policy-wise, for his white (male) base. "Replacement migration" is as alive and well here in North America as it is in Europe, despite the fact that whitey is, by far, a global minority.

#30 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-08-21 02:05 AM | Reply

So it's not the gun's fault?

#31 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2019-08-21 03:18 AM | Reply

GA

MADE IN THE USA! :)

#32 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-21 03:36 AM | Reply

So it's not the gun's fault?

#31 | Posted by Greatamerican

They aren't school children or concertgoers or shoppers being killed en masse with assault weapons and 100 round magazines.

Go back to bed.

#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-21 03:40 AM | Reply

There are far more white people that are economically disadvantaged than there are black people (period.)

Sorry, the "It's not their fault, they're poor!" is the racism of lowered expectations. It's an excuse to not confront the actual problems in black culture.

#34 | Posted by Merovigan at 2019-08-21 06:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hmmm . . . and what leads to getting shot in the first place? Fix the root problem - parenting, or lack thereof.

#35 | Posted by Gr8Music at 2019-08-21 08:52 AM | Reply

What are the odds?

Shot by cop.
Shot by someone you know.
Shot by someone of your race that is a cop.
Shot by someone of your race that is not a cop.

#36 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-08-21 09:15 AM | Reply

Being shot by other young black men is a higher leading cause of death for young black men. Until we can address both in the same idea we are not actually looking to do anything but feel good by exercising our white guilt.

#37 | Posted by Ottodog at 2019-08-21 10:27 AM | Reply

"You need to show that other (non-black) populations who are in similar socioeconomic positions engage in similar levels of criminal behavior.
#27 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE"

Easy.
Look no further than The Reservation.

"Violent crime rates over all on Native American reservations are 2.5 times the national average while some individual reservations reach 20 times the national average of violent crime."

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-21 06:20 PM | Reply

the actual problems in black culture.

#34 | POSTED BY MEROVIGAN AT 2019-08-21 06:33 AM | REPLY

yes, like confronting cops while holding a cellphone, or selling loose cigarettes.

maybe the problem is "white culture"

#39 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-08-21 06:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Fix the root problem - parenting, or lack thereof.
#35 | POSTED BY GR8MUSIC"

How?
???

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-21 06:24 PM | Reply

But they own the N word and nothing you can do about it cracker

#41 | Posted by mutant at 2019-08-21 09:22 PM | Reply

So it's not the gun's fault?

#31 | POSTED BY GREATAMERICAN AT 2019-08-21 03:18 AM

When has a person without a gun committed a mass shooting?

#42 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-08-21 11:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When has a person without a gun committed a mass shooting?

#42 | POSTED BY HATTER5183 "

Can't you guys come up with snother meme that's not so stupid? Of course a gun is needed for a shooting. It's like asking, when has there been a car wreck when there wasn't a car involved.

#43 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-21 11:55 PM | Reply

Can't you guys come up with another meme that's not so stupid? Of course a gun is needed for a shooting. It's like asking, when has there been a car wreck when there wasn't a car involved.

#43 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-08-21 11:55 PM

Dear Goat,

If guns were regulated like cars, there might be fewer shootings of innocents. You would seem to have refuted your own argument. Good job.

#44 | Posted by john47 at 2019-08-22 11:42 AM | Reply

There where a little over 600 deaths caused by cops by means total last year, so this sounds a little unrealistic.

#45 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-08-22 01:27 PM | Reply

#44 | Posted by john47

1. You don't have Constitutional right to own a car.
2. When has a mass bombing not involved a bomb?

#46 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-08-22 01:36 PM | Reply

If guns were regulated like cars, there might be fewer shootings of innocents. You would seem to have refuted your own argument. Good job.
#44 | Posted by john47 at 2019-08-22 11:42 AM

No age requirement to purchase a car.
No licensing requirement to purchase a car.
No insurance requirement to purchase a car.
No background check requirement to purchase a car.
You can legally purchase a car across state lines.
No limit where you can carry a car.
No inspection requirements to purchase a car.
No tracking requirement to purchase a car.

You sure about that, john47?

#47 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-22 02:10 PM | Reply

"There where a little over 600 deaths caused by cops by means total last year"

That sounds low.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-22 02:16 PM | Reply

No age requirement to purchase a car.
No licensing requirement to purchase a car.
No insurance requirement to purchase a car.
No background check requirement to purchase a car.
You can legally purchase a car across state lines.
No limit where you can carry a car.
No inspection requirements to purchase a car.
No tracking requirement to purchase a car.

You sure about that, john47?

#47 | POSTED BY AFATWHORE

Are you sure about anything you posted?

The laws differ between each state as to the minimum age that a person is permitted to own a car.

In general, a minor cannot enter into a contract. They are also not allowed to own property.

A 'minor' refers to a person who is under the age of adulthood. Depending on the jurisdiction, this age can be different but it is normally 18 or 21.

Age of License - often gets confused with the age of majority. It also relates to the arrival of adulthood but is the age when one has legal permission from the government to do something. The age of majority is legal recognition that a minor has grown into adulthood and relates to a person's right to make their own decisions and actions instead of the parent or guardian making them

www.autobytel.com


You really should flush your bullshht instead of posting it.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-22 02:21 PM | Reply

Hell - felons, domestic abusers and the mentally ill can purchase cars.

#50 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-22 02:25 PM | Reply

felons, domestic abusers and the mentally ill can purchase cars.
#50 | POSTED BY ABIGBORE

Enough about your dad.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-22 02:32 PM | Reply

felons, domestic abusers and the mentally ill can purchase cars.

Domestic abusers and the mentally ill can also purchase guns. (Thanks Trump!)

As for felons, I've been told they can get guns anytime they want.

Which is why we can get rid of them. Because criminals don't follow the law.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-22 02:35 PM | Reply

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