@#27 ... I see the menial jobs as stepping stones to skilled jobs. Personally I a mowed lawns, worked at Wendy's and became a tester before my career started as a Software Engineer. ...
I sold can openers in a department store. :)
What about many of the menial jobs that the illegal immigrants currently hold... temporary agricultural workers, meat packing plant employees, etc. Will the wages rise to the level that will attract legal workers?
... If there wasn't a shortage of skilled labor you might be correct. Currently I can find an illegal immigrant to work for 5$, and have am currently doing KnowledgeTransfer for a software position to India. ...
I'm having trouble parsing that.
But I think to your point... I'm not saying we should not fill skilled position with legal immigrants (an Intel CEO comes to mind). I think it would be great if a highly skilled legal immigrant worked at a company and such work allowed the company to stay based in the United States and grow and prosper.
I was commenting on one interpretation of what was said. Given the current administration, I wanted to be specific in what the original comment meant.
... If the supply is there corporations will figure out how to make use of it, ...
We may disagree a bit here.
I think the companies encourage the supply to be there.
The raids in Mississippi show that.
The companies involved started to advertise in local media after the raids and guess what. They received a lot of interest from local legal workers, albeit, at higher salaries. Yes, advertising in local media for local job openings got local people to apply (quelle surprise!).
The downside for the companies was two-fold, however. The companies had to pay higher wages to legal workers, and they had to treat the workers better because legal workers have better protection from abuse than illegal workers.
... Assimilation is important, infact its the most important part of immigration. Having little fiefdoms of separate cultures is balkinization. ...
What is the culture like now? How will immigration change that? Do we have balkanization now? Will immigration change that?
What is the culture that we want to protect from balkanization?
And what does assimilation really mean in this context? I've asked that question many times, but no one ever seems to answer it.