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Friday, August 23, 2019

David Koch, the billionaire industrialist who, along with his brother Charles, helped fund a vast conservative and libertarian political operation, died on Friday, according to the journalist Jane Mayer, citing family sources. CBS confirmed his death. He was 79 years old.

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Thank ------- God.

Rot in hell, douchebag.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-23 09:12 AM | Reply

Jesus will be interested in how much money you had.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-08-23 09:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't believe in Hell. But, Jesus did and he said rich people are almost certainly going there. Have fun with that Christian conservatives.

#3 | Posted by anton at 2019-08-23 09:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He won't be undermining democracy any more. Something tells me that all of his money won't do him any good in the afterlife. I can't bring myself to pretend I am sorry for his demise.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-23 09:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The world's chances just got a little better. RIP.

#5 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-08-23 09:35 AM | Reply

1 down, 1 to go.

#6 | Posted by qcp at 2019-08-23 09:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Jesus did and he said rich people are almost certainly going there.
#3 | POSTED BY ANTON

No, he didn't.

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-23 09:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 3

Rot in hell, douchebag.
#1 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

That's awful.

#8 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-23 09:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

#7

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. - Jesus

#9 | Posted by qcp at 2019-08-23 09:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

I'd be interested to know how many people he employed and how much of his money went to philanthropic purposes.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-23 09:50 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#1 Again, you don't disappoint. You truly are a P.O.S. I'm almost embarrassed for you.

#11 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-08-23 09:52 AM | Reply

Thank you, QCP.

#12 | Posted by anton at 2019-08-23 09:52 AM | Reply

RIP Sir.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-23 09:54 AM | Reply

"I'd be interested to know how many people he employed and how much of his money went to philanthropic purposes."

And since you can't take it with you, who'd he leave it all to?

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 10:01 AM | Reply

So now the border is only half open to illegals.

#15 | Posted by HanoverFist at 2019-08-23 10:04 AM | Reply

Enjoy your pineapple Dave.

#16 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-08-23 10:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

I'd be interested to know how many people he employed and how much of his money went to philanthropic purposes.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-23 09:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

Both are easy to find if you're not lazy.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-08-23 10:23 AM | Reply

Jesus did and he said rich people are almost certainly going there.
#3 | POSTED BY ANTON

No, he didn't.

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-23 09:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

#18 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-08-23 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

gph.is

#19 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-08-23 10:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Another warrior for open borders gone. Democrats should be in mourning.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-23 10:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The reason you're cheering his demise is because he was insanely rich and kicked ass.

David Koch is pro-choice, supports gay rights; just not Democrats

www.cnn.com

"What I want these candidates to do is to support a balanced budget," Koch said. "I'm really focused intensely on economic and fiscal issues, because if those go bad the country as a whole suffers terribly."

I'm sure he was disappointed in the direction the country is going. But, keep cheering and pretending to be tolerant.

#21 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-08-23 10:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Lee the Agent?

MORE LIKE LEE THE AGENT OF PUTIN!!!1!

#22 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-08-23 10:40 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

David Koch, the billionaire industrialist who, along with his brother Charles, helped fund a vast conservative and libertarian political operation, died on Friday, according to the journalist Jane Mayer, citing family sources. CBS confirmed his death. He was 79 years old.

Bye bye!

Hasta La Vista!

Sayonara!

You're not coming back, ever!

Rot in hell, douchebag!

Great, GREAT day for America!!!!!!!

Tonight, I'm gonna party like it's 1999 ... er, I mean, 2019 ~

#23 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-23 10:51 AM | Reply

Enjoy your pineapple Dave.

POSTED BY NIXON AT 2019-08-23 10:22 AM | REPLY |

Huh???

#24 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-23 10:52 AM | Reply

#18 Also:

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 10:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Spent his life trying to acquire all of the money in the world but couldn't take it with him. Now his heirs can fight over it. Stupid!

#26 | Posted by TenMile at 2019-08-23 11:03 AM | Reply

Having said that, David Koch was a philanthropist, whose donated millions helped many, so there is that.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 11:04 AM | Reply

Huh???

#24 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2019-08-23 10:52 AM | FLAG:

That's a joke from an Adam Sandler movie. He's saying a pro-gay rights, pro-open borders, philathropist is Hitler that deserves a pineapple shoved up his ass daily by Satan.

Some sick ----- on this site.

#28 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-08-23 11:08 AM | Reply

He used his money to worsen the economic and cultural divide in America. I don't wish he was dead, but I am glad his presence no longer looms over American politics.

#29 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-08-23 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Good to see the true partisan douchebags like QCP, Anton and Pinche show their colors.

Get help.

#30 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 11:37 AM | Reply

Why do you hate Jesus, Rightocenter?

#31 | Posted by anton at 2019-08-23 11:40 AM | Reply

Why do you hate pro-choice, pro-gay rights advocates so much that you cheer when they die, Anton?

Get help.

#32 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 11:43 AM | Reply

I'd be interested to know how many people he employed...

I'm sure as few as possible, paying them as little as he could get away with.

...and how much of his money went to philanthropic purposes.
#10 | Posted by JeffJ

If he's destrying the Earth while donating to Planned Parenthood, it's a net loss.

#33 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-08-23 11:45 AM | Reply

#32 Two words: Tea Party.

David H. Koch, industrialist who fueled right-wing movement, dies at 79

Three decades after David Koch's public steps into politics, analysts say, the Koch brothers' money-fueled brand of libertarianism helped give rise to the Tea Party movement and strengthened the far-right wing of a resurgent Republican Party.

www.msn.com

#34 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 11:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Good to see the true partisan douchebags like QCP, Anton and Pinche show their colors."

Something similar will happen when Soros dies.

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 11:48 AM | Reply

#35

Seriously doubt it, and it will be interesting if Anton and the other newly converted "Christians" are quoting Matthew 19:23-26 when Soros dies.

#36 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 11:51 AM | Reply

Dear Soros,

Jesus said rich people are probably going to Hell.

Repent.

#37 | Posted by anton at 2019-08-23 11:54 AM | Reply

I wonder how many different ways there are to pronounce the name Koch. I've heard people refer to these guys as the "Coke" brothers. A former mayor of New York was Ed "Kotch". I had a teacher in high school named Mrs. "Koh". Bruce Boxleitner had a friend named "Kosh".

#38 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-08-23 11:57 AM | Reply

Nice "heartfelt" recovery there, Anton.

Get help.

#39 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 11:59 AM | Reply

Seriously doubt it, and it will be interesting if Anton and the other newly converted "Christians" are quoting Matthew 19:23-26 when Soros dies."

I was referring to your post:

"Good to see the true partisan douchebags like QCP, Anton and Pinche show their colors."

Do you seriously doubt that rightwing partisans will cheer Soros's death when it comes?

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 12:00 PM | Reply

He's gone right where Ayn Rand is.

#41 | Posted by Tor at 2019-08-23 12:01 PM | Reply

Get help.

#30 | POSTED BY FakeLawyer

Isn't this rich? A flaming POS like you telling others to seek help?
Heed your own advice there Sherlock!

I'm glad you are having a sh*tty day because one of your hero's kicked off.

Pure evil really does die. Who knew? I hope the *rick brought some sunblock because it's going to be extremely hot where he's going! Enjoy the ride down you anti-American POS!

What a day!

#42 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-23 12:06 PM | Reply

I wish they hurry up and bury the POS, I have a full bladder.

#43 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-23 12:12 PM | Reply

"What I want these candidates to do is to support a balanced budget," Koch said.

Just so long as the 1% got their tax cuts first.

He supported candidates who want to kill the social safety net including social security and medicare because he is just that much of a philanthropist.

#44 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-08-23 12:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When I was 13 years old living in MS, I remember the day John Kennedy was assassinated, most of the kids in my class cheered.

#45 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-23 12:15 PM | Reply

#40

Most of us on the right side of the aisle here are not the hate filled douchebags that wish asscancer on others or that someone's kid gets hit by a car, so yes. There may be a couple of RW douchebags that cheer for that it will be far less than the sickos on the DR Left.

#46 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 12:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"He supported candidates who want to kill the social safety net including social security and medicare because he is just that much of a philanthropist."

Touche!

#47 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 12:17 PM | Reply

- No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

That was the real point.

- Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. - Jesus

The next sentence is: "But with God, all things are possible."

Which means you were right, that's a small caveat to the same point.

Mr Koch is currently finding out that what's also true is that you can't take it with you.... which was a great Frank Capra movie.

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2019-08-23 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Most of us on the right side of the aisle here are not the hate filled douchebags that wish asscancer on others or that someone's kid gets hit by a car, so yes. There may be a couple of RW douchebags that cheer for that it will be far less than the sickos on the DR Left."

Maybe on here is somehow the exception to the larger right-wing blogosphere. How many death threats has Soros gotten or just hopes for his death by online well-wishers? I'm betting plenty.

#49 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"There may be a couple of RW douchebags that cheer for that it will be far less than the sickos on the DR Left."

You should get out more. Or just visit /r/the_donald one day. The conservative tent covers much more than just the conservative elites you associate with.

#50 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-08-23 12:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Does he get to take all his wealth with him?

No?

Then what was the point of destroying the planet in order to get more money than 10 generations of his family could ever need?

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 12:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I expected to see the dancing Bananas on this headline on this Site. DR is getting soft.

#52 | Posted by LittleJake at 2019-08-23 12:24 PM | Reply

Most of us on the right side of the aisle here are not the hate filled douchebags that wish asscancer on others or that someone's kid gets hit by a car, so yes. There may be a couple of RW douchebags that cheer for that it will be far less than the sickos on the DR Left.

#46 | Posted by Rightocenter

There's nothing wrong with celebrating the end of a horrible destructive sociopath who worked to sicken and kill millions of innocent people while enriching himself.

Celebrating someone dying might usually be bad. But koch wasn't just someone. He was someone who intentionally hurt a lot of people and made a lot of gullible morons believe climate change isn't happening.

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 12:26 PM | Reply

Do you seriously doubt that rightwing partisans will cheer Soros's death when it comes?

#40 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

No, there are disgusting people on both sides of the aisle.

We've all known that there are bad elements in both parties.

Need to stop choosing between these two evils and pick a third or fourth party evil.

#54 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-08-23 12:26 PM | Reply

#49-50

LOL, way to move the goalposts, I was and remain talking about the DR.

There are plenty of people on Daily Kos and Commondreams, right now posting some of the most vile shht, the moderators are going to be busy today, just as they will be on Breitbart and Redstate when Soros dies.

#55 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 12:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#53

And right on cue, one of the hyper partisan douchebags who wished a fellow poster's child was hit by a truck comes on to spew his hatred.

Get help.

#56 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Good to see the true partisan douchebags like QCP, Anton and Pinche show their colors.

#30 | POSTED BYRIGHTOCENTER

You're EXACTLY right.

I am showing my TRUE colors ...

RED, WHITE, and BLUE!

Ding, dong, the douchebag is DEAD!

Great day for America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#57 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-23 12:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#57

Get help sicko.

#58 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 12:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's not sick to cheer the death of a bad person, it happens often everyday.

#59 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-08-23 12:39 PM | Reply

#49-50
LOL, way to move the goalposts, I was and remain talking about the DR.
There are plenty of people on Daily Kos and Commondreams, right now posting some of the most vile shht, the moderators are going to be busy today, just as they will be on Breitbart and Redstate when Soros dies.

You're the one who's moving the goalposts all around (emphasis mine):

#40
Most of us on the right side of the aisle here are not the hate filled douchebags that wish asscancer on others or that someone's kid gets hit by a car, so yes. There may be a couple of RW douchebags that cheer for that it will be far less than the sickos on the DR Left.
#46 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 12:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

#60 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 12:39 PM | Reply

"There may be a couple of RW douchebags that cheer for that it will be far less than the sickos on the DR Left."

I honestly didn't know you meant only on the DR with that comment. That said, I wonder if more on here, on both sides of the aisle, wouldn't let their hate flags fly if they thought RCade would let them get away with it? IOW, I'm not convinced most DR right-wingers are a different breed from their brethren on those other sites you mention.

#61 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Get help sicko.

#58 | POSTED BYRIGHTOCENTER

Haha haha haha haha haha haha

I'm celebrating tonight!

There once was a Koch from Nantucket
Who's billions he used to make America suck it
He polluted the environment
Suppressed wages like a tyrant
But now he's dead, he kicked the bucket!

#62 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-23 12:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

FWIW, I missed this post you refer to:

"And right on cue, one of the hyper partisan douchebags who wished a fellow poster's child was hit by a truck comes on to spew his hatred."

#63 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 12:48 PM | Reply

@michaelianblack
In lieu of flowers, the family of David Koch requests that mourners simply purchase a Republican politician.

#64 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-23 12:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

And since you can't take it with you, who'd he leave it all to?

#14 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Thank god his Republican friends got rid of the Estate Tax so someone will get rich(er) without having to work for it.

Gotta keep those rich dynasties alive and well.

#65 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-08-23 12:52 PM | Reply

A lot of butthurt coming from the usual (R)tarded snowflakes today. Of ------- well!
LMAO!

#66 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-23 12:52 PM | Reply

#66
They're the same ones who would have been putting down all the people cheering in Times Square on VE day.
"Look at all those sickos cheering on the death of the Germans"

#67 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-08-23 12:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#63

I hope it's your kid that gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker instead of mine.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-08-21 11:21 PM

#68 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 01:00 PM | Reply

#67

Probably the worst strawman ever posted on the DR.

#69 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 01:01 PM | Reply

66
They're the same ones who would have been putting down all the people cheering in Times Square on VE day.
"Look at all those sickos cheering on the death of the Germans"

#67 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST

You'll have to excuse them though, the Nazi's are their people.

#70 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-23 01:05 PM | Reply

I was just a kid, but I recall some on the far right celebrating the assassination of JFK.

But that's prolly just a strawman, too, right?

Obviously rwingers are much more humane than these nasty progressives.... well, they are as long as RoCheney is a rwinger.

#71 | Posted by Corky at 2019-08-23 01:06 PM | Reply

If any (R)tarded snowflake doesn't like true fact that many here are celebrating the fact that pure evil has just died, they can kindly GTFO if their fee fees are getting hurt. I am hoping the Grim Reaper pays another visit soon to the Koch family, as he missed Charles.

#72 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-23 01:14 PM | Reply

"...and the other newly converted "Christians" are quoting Matthew 19:23-26..."

I'm certainly no christian but I do find it fun to proving morons wrong with a quote from their own grimoire holy book.

#73 | Posted by qcp at 2019-08-23 01:19 PM | Reply

#63
I hope it's your kid that gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker instead of mine.
POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-08-21 11:21 PM
#68 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 01:00 PM | Reply

That qualifying "instead of mine" seems important to anyone paying attention to context.

#74 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 01:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#74 I do give you credit, RoC, for actually posting the qualifying phrase. Some wouldn't.

#75 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 01:23 PM | Reply

We've all known that there are bad elements in both parties.

Need to stop choosing between these two evils and pick a third or fourth party evil.

#54 | Posted by Petrous

Sure there are bad elements in both parties, but nowhere near equal.

Only one party is taking healthcare from the sick to fund tax cuts for the rich.
Only one party denies climate change is happening.
Only one party elected trump.

#76 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 01:30 PM | Reply

I hope it's your kid that gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker instead of mine.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-08-21 11:21 PM

#68 | Posted by Rightocenter a

Haha you mean you have a file of posts that you save to bring up later? Precious.

What was that post in response to exactly?

#77 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 01:31 PM | Reply

'm certainly no christian but I do find it fun to proving morons wrong with a quote from their own grimoire holy book.

Maybe you leftoids ought to stick to quoting your own holy books, like Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, and the Communist Manifesto.

#78 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-23 01:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Alinsky"

*drinks dusty bottle of tired old meme whiskey from 2008*

#79 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-23 01:37 PM | Reply

Probably the worst strawman ever posted on the DR.

#69 | Posted by Rightocenter

That's not a strawman its an analogy. And an accurate one. Celebrating the end of evil is what good people do. Evil people whine about good people celebrating the end of an evil thing.

#80 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 01:37 PM | Reply

Maybe you leftoids ought to stick to quoting your own holy books, like Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, and the Communist Manifesto.

#78 | Posted by nullifidian

"Communist"

*drink*

#81 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 01:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'm certainly no christian but I do find it fun to proving morons wrong with a quote from their own grimoire holy book.

#73 | POSTED BY QCP AT 2019-08-23 01:19 PM | REPLY

And we didn't even mention the part where Jesus tells a rich young ruler that he has to give everything he owns away in order to be saved.

Also, somehow, quoting Jesus now equates with cheering a rich person's death. Right-wing Christians are a strange lot.

#82 | Posted by anton at 2019-08-23 01:39 PM | Reply

Maybe you leftoids ought to stick to quoting your own holy books, like Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, and the Communist Manifesto.
#78 | Posted by nullifidian

And the New Testament, apparently, from the quotes above.

#83 | Posted by anton at 2019-08-23 01:40 PM | Reply

SqeekShrilly is on the waiting list for the forthcoming, "Quotations From Chairman Musk."

#84 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-23 01:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

SqeekShrilly is on the waiting list for the forthcoming, "Quotations From Chairman Musk."

#84 | Posted by nullifidian

Still jealous of a car nulli? Why weren't you ever able to earn enough to buy anything nice for yourself? Too stupid? Too bitter? Too ugly? Or did the evil democrats somehow hold you down your entire life?

#85 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Jesus will be interested in how much money you had.

#2 | POSTED BY ZED "

Why? I doubt the people mowing his lawn will be getting any of it.

#86 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 01:47 PM | Reply

What was that post in response to exactly?
#77 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 01:31

Full context:

Truckers Take Financial Hit from Trump's Trade War

"The Trump administration took a key step last week toward relaxing federal rules that govern the length of time truck drivers can spend behind the wheel, a move long sought by the trucking industry but opposed by safety advocates who warn it could lead to more highway crashes."
keeping costs down will reflect in lower prices at the consumer levels to offset the cost increases imposed by nonsensical antitrumpers....good!
#5 | Posted by mutant

I hope it's your kid that gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker instead of mine.
Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-21 11:21 PM | Reply

drudge.com

#87 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 01:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why? I doubt the people mowing his lawn will be getting any of it.

#86 | Posted by goatman

So koch is the the one luring in the illegal immigrants with illegal jobs?

#88 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 01:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That should tickle the hell out of you libs.... He was a never Trumper.

#89 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-08-23 01:53 PM | Reply

"Most of us on the right side of the aisle here are not the hate filled douchebags that wish asscancer on others or that someone's kid gets hit by a car, so yes. There may be a couple of RW douchebags that cheer for that it will be far less than the sickos on the DR Left."

Now that I know the context, I find it hard to agree with your assessment of Speaks' comment.

#90 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 01:56 PM | Reply

87 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Yup. And I fully stand by that statement. If someone is going to get killed by the tired truckers that trump is allowing on the road, then I hope it's trump supporters kids instead of innocent people's kids. Maybe then they'll see the effects of their vote.

#91 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 01:56 PM | Reply

"I hope it's your kid that gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker instead of mine.

Posted by SpeakSoftly "

A decent person would have said, "I hope no one's kid gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker" rather than wishing another poster's kid gets hit.

But I'm sure speaksoftly appreciates you taking her side, indefensible and hateful as his post is.

#92 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So koch is the the one luring in the illegal immigrants with illegal jobs?

#88 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

What does that have to do with my post?

One of your tactics -- deflect.

#93 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 01:58 PM | Reply

wishing another poster's kid gets hit.

#92 | Posted by goatman

Why do you need to lie so much? Saying "I hope A happens before B happens" doesn't mean i hope either one happens.

You suck at this. You lecture people about twisting your words on every thread, fighting endlessly over semantics, then turn around and do that exact same thing.

#94 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 02:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#91 It's never good to wish death on someone else's kids, but I understand the point you were making. It would be like someone who believes in more gun control saying to an NRA advocate: "I hope it's your kid that gets killed in the next school shooting instead of mine." What the gun control advocate really wants is for no kids to get killed in school shootings.

#95 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--"So koch is the the one luring in the illegal immigrants with illegal jobs?

He's been financing open-borders and pro-amnesty groups. You guys should be in mourning.

#96 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-23 02:02 PM | Reply

He's been financing open-borders and pro-amnesty groups. You guys should be in mourning.

#96 | Posted by nullifidian

Aww someone's dumb enough to think liberals want open borders. Adorable.

#97 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"Why do you need to lie so much? Saying "I hope A happens before B happens" doesn't mean i hope either one happens."

That wasn't a lie. I quoted you verbatim. Why do you lie so much?

A decent person would have said, "I hope no one's kid gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker". But you opted for the more hateful, "I hope it's your kid that gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker instead of mine."

They are your words. Own them.

#98 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. - Jesus

#9 | Posted by qcp at 2019-08-23 09:47 AM | Reply | Flag:
| Newsworthy 4

For you misunderstanding the word, which most of you do, just because you are rich doesnt mean you arent getting into heaven. Jesus was talking about rich people who do not believe in him and love money over all else. All we have to do is believe on the lord. Period. Maybe if you actually read your bible instead of cherry picking verses, you would know that. You dont know what was on that man's heart, only he and God knows that.

#99 | Posted by boaz at 2019-08-23 02:10 PM | Reply

"#95 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY "

It's obvious that remaining loyal to one's on-line clique is more important than acknowledging a more compassionate wording that didn't include hoping for another kid's death should have been used. That's sad.

#100 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 02:11 PM | Reply

A decent person would have said, "I hope no one's kid gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker". But you opted for the more hateful, "I hope it's your kid that gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker instead of mine."

Speaks does hope that no one, kid or adult, gets killed by an over tired trucker. Hence his post which was meant to rhetorically wake-up mutant, who was less concerned with safety than with offsetting "the cost increases imposed by nonsensical antitrumpers":

"The Trump administration took a key step last week toward relaxing federal rules that govern the length of time truck drivers can spend behind the wheel, a move long sought by the trucking industry but opposed by safety advocates who warn it could lead to more highway crashes."
keeping costs down will reflect in lower prices at the consumer levels to offset the cost increases imposed by nonsensical antitrumpers....good!
#5 | Posted by mutant

#101 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 02:13 PM | Reply

All we have to do is believe on the lord. Period. Maybe if you actually read your bible instead of cherry picking verses, you would know that. You dont know what was on that man's heart, only he and God knows that.

#99 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-08-23 02:10 PM | FLAG:

"You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone." James 2:24.

Maybe you need to read your Bible. Non-christians get tired having to explain this stuff to you.

#102 | Posted by anton at 2019-08-23 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It's obvious that remaining loyal to one's on-line clique is more important than acknowledging a more compassionate wording that didn't include hoping for another kid's death should have been used. That's sad."

Give it up, Goat.

#103 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 02:14 PM | Reply

"Aww someone's dumb enough to think liberals want open borders. Adorable.

#97 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

Awe, someone who think's childish name calling changes reality.

cis.org

#104 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 02:15 PM | Reply

David Koch Dies

I luv the banner headline.

Could use the dancing bananas ~

Did I mention that this is a GREAT for America?

woot! Woot!! WOOT!!!

#105 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-23 02:18 PM | Reply

- All we have to do is believe on the lord. Period.

Lucifer believes in God, he just doesn't have faith in him.... which is what is required.

"Maybe if you actually read your bible instead of cherry picking verses, you would know that."

#106 | Posted by Corky at 2019-08-23 02:19 PM | Reply

"Speaks does hope that no one, kid or adult, gets killed by an over tired trucker. "

I stand by my point. A decent person would have said, "I hope no one's kid gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker" and left hoping one kid rather than another gets hit by a truck out of it.

Sorry you can't see that, gal_tuesday. I think there was a time you would have, but your heart seems to have become hardened in the 2.5 years I was away.

I'm through talking about this. Everyone cheer! LOL

#107 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 02:20 PM | Reply

"I hope it's your kid that gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker instead of mine."

They are your words. Own them.

#98 | Posted by goatman

I own them. I mean them. Someone's going to get killed by the sleepy truck drivers trump is putting onto the roads. I hope its someone who helped cause the problem by electing trump instead of an innocent person.

#108 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 02:20 PM | Reply

Awe, someone who think's childish name calling changes reality.

cis.org

#104 | Posted by goatman

Haha that's your source? This is why you're so stupid.

#109 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 02:21 PM | Reply

A decent person would have said, "I hope no one's kid gets hit by a trump-legalized tired trucker"

That was implied by his post. You are acting like he said: "Oh, good I'm glad that Trump wants to allow overly tired truckers on the road. I hope mutant's kid gets killed by one."

#110 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 02:26 PM | Reply

#18 | POSTED BY NIXON

Sorry, but nothing in that verse says rich people are going to hell.

You're making an assumption pertaining to the grace of God, or rather by your interpretation, His lack of grace.

#111 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-23 02:32 PM | Reply

Look at mutant's post:

"The Trump administration took a key step last week toward relaxing federal rules that govern the length of time truck drivers can spend behind the wheel, a move long sought by the trucking industry but opposed by safety advocates who warn it could lead to more highway crashes."
keeping costs down will reflect in lower prices at the consumer levels to offset the cost increases imposed by nonsensical antitrumpers....good!
#5 | Posted by mutant

He quotes the safety concern advocates warning and then basically ignores them in favor of "keeping costs" down. Speaks then responded, basically saying, "Since you don't care about the safety concerns, I hope it's your kid that gets killed by a sleep trucker and not mine." Sure I guess he could have said, "I hope you don't find out the hard way what can happen if a tired trucker gets into an accident and kills someone. I hope a tired trucker doesn't kill your kid. Or mine."

#112 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 02:33 PM | Reply

Gal...get out of the hole now while you can. No amount of logic or reason can save you from the thread killer.

#113 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-08-23 02:39 PM | Reply

Sorry, but nothing in that verse says rich people are going to hell.

#111 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Do you ever stop defending plutocrats? You realize these are the people that fund politicians who oppose everything you pretend to want right dum dum?

#114 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 02:41 PM | Reply

"Sorry, but nothing in that verse says rich people are going to hell.
#111 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Do you ever stop defending plutocrats? You realize these are the people that fund politicians who oppose everything you pretend to want right dum dum?

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

I do not see him defending anyone. The way I read the post is that he denies there is a bible verse about rich people going to hell. Reading is fundamental.

Another tactic of yours -- respond with a non-sequitur.

#115 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 02:47 PM | Reply

#114 You want him to burn in hell, Speaks? ...because he has a political view that differs from you?

I can see how you would have approved of Madeleine Albright's remarks. It's inhuman, really.

#116 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-23 02:49 PM | Reply

"Haha that's your source? This is why you're so stupid.

#109 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

It's in post 104 -- the one you C&Ped. And you call me stupid. LOL

Another tactic of yours -- erroneously thinking childish name calling makes you right.

#117 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 02:50 PM | Reply

"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.""Matthew 6:19"21

#118 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 02:53 PM | Reply

#114 You want him to burn in hell, Speaks? ...because he has a political view that differs from you?

I can see how you would have approved of Madeleine Albright's remarks. It's inhuman, really.

#116 | Posted by SheepleSchism

I dont believe in hell. I wish he would have gotten punished for his sociopathic behavior while he was alive. So would any real progressive.

#119 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 02:53 PM | Reply

Another tactic of yours -- erroneously thinking childish name calling makes you right.

#117 | Posted by goatman

No using real facts makes me right.

The name calling is just because you deserve it for running away from threads like a bitch when the facts destroy your arguments.

#120 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 02:54 PM | Reply

"The name calling is just because you deserve it for running away from threads like a bitch when the facts destroy your arguments.

#120 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-08-23 02:54 PM "

Citation needed. Oh, and thanks for again proving my point that you heavily rely on childish namea calling. Keep those hits coming! LOL

"No using real facts makes me right. "

Let us know when you decide to start using them.

#121 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 02:56 PM | Reply

"The name calling is just because you deserve it for running away from threads like a bitch when the facts destroy your arguments.

#120 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-08-23 02:54 PM "

Citation needed. Oh, and thanks for again proving my point that you heavily rely on childish namea calling. Keep those hits coming! LOL

"No using real facts makes me right. "

Let us know when you decide to start using them.

#122 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 02:56 PM | Reply

I wish he would have gotten punished for his sociopathic behavior while he was alive.
#119 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I bet you do.

"So would any real progressive."

You must mean, authoritarian sociopath. I have no doubt that you want to "punish" your political opponents.

What's your idea of punishment; a gulag? hard labor? being raped?

#123 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-23 03:00 PM | Reply

Let us know when you decide to start using them.

#122 | Posted by goatman

YOu're really going to pretend you never ran from the thread as soon as I destroyed your "dems haven't done anything for election security" argument 2 days ago?

Let me refresh your memory:

Goat: Dems haven't done anything for election security
Me: Here's a link showing the legislation dems passed that repubs stopped.
Goat: You're mean to me! I'm leaving!

#124 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 03:01 PM | Reply

You must mean, authoritarian sociopath. I have no doubt that you want to "punish" your political opponents.

What's your idea of punishment; a gulag? hard labor? being raped?

#123 | Posted by SheepleSchism

What I want is what any real progressive wants - a system where it's not legal for rich sociopaths to get away with bribing politicians to create policies which enrich them and cause suffering for millions.

Serious question - if you're a progressive and a bernie supporter, why do you never post anything promoting progressive ideas and spend all your time attacking liberals and defending trump and plutocrats?

Honestly the only explanations I can think of are:
1. You were just lying about being a bernie supporter and really just wanted to try and make dems fight among themselves
2. You're so stupid that you'd rather elect republicans than imperfect democrats.

Do you have a better explanation for your behavior?

#125 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 03:05 PM | Reply

"Goat: Dems haven't done anything for election security
Me: Here's a link showing the legislation dems passed that repubs stopped.
Goat: You're mean to me! I'm leaving!

#124 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

False quotes. Another tactic of yours -- put words into other people's mouths. Again, when are you going to start this truth thing you were talking about?

#126 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 03:07 PM | Reply

"Sorry you can't see that, gal_tuesday. I think there was a time you would have, but your heart seems to have become hardened in the 2.5 years I was away."

I wouldn't have said what Speaks said in the way that he said it, but his comment also wasn't the way I imagined it when I read RoC's description.

#127 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 03:10 PM | Reply

"YOu're really going to pretend you never ran from the thread as soon as I destroyed your "dems haven't done anything for election security" argument 2 days ago?

posted by speaksoftly"

Well, the fact that you had to fabricate an exchange between us to make your point pretty much says I didn't have to pretend anything. It's you who relied on make-believe land by dreaming up a conversation we had and pretending it is real.

#128 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 03:11 PM | Reply

I personally find it strange that Gal is bending over backwards to defend Shreekhysteria's sociopathy.

Saying "I hope your kid gets hit by a truck rather than mine" is pretty clear IMO.

#129 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well, the fact that you had to fabricate an exchange between us to make your point pretty much says I didn't have to pretend anything. It's you who relied on make-believe land by dreaming up a conversation we had and pretending it is real.

#128 | Posted by goatman

That's how the exchange went. This is the part where you try and focus on literal quotes rather than the big picture and hide behind semantics. As always. Yawn.

#130 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 03:22 PM | Reply

Saying "I hope your kid gets hit by a truck rather than mine" is pretty clear IMO.

#129 | Posted by Rightocenter

If a judge lets a killer out of jail, would you say you'd rather that the killer kill the judge's kid instead of yours?

Most people would. Not because they're sociopaths. Because that's karma.

#131 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 03:24 PM | Reply

"If a judge lets a killer out of jail, would you say you'd rather that the killer kill the judge's kid instead of yours?

Most people would. Not because they're sociopaths. Because that's karma.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

A decent person would say, "I hope the killer doesnt kill anyone else."

Another tactic of yours: Posit false dichotomies.

"Most people would"

Another tactic of yours: Invoke logical fallacies like ad populum

#132 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 03:28 PM | Reply

"That's how the exchange went.

#130 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

No, it's not. Why do you lie so much?

Link or stink liar.

Another tactic of yours, the Josef Goebbels approach, "If you repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth".

I'll wait for that link

#133 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 03:29 PM | Reply

Everyone lies but Goat.

Et_Al's request you stop misusing and overusing the term "liar" flew right over your head, didn't it.

He's right. About everything he posted.

#134 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-23 03:31 PM | Reply

"Everyone lies but Goat. "

Not everyone.

#135 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 03:34 PM | Reply

You want him to burn in hell, Speaks? ...because he has a political view that differs from you?

#116 | POSTED BYSHEEPLESCHISM

I do!!!

Burn, baby burn, disco inferno ~

youtu.be

Burn, in, hell, douchebag!

#136 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-23 03:36 PM | Reply

#131

Wow, you have issues, what's next, some type of analogy about killing Hitler?

Normal people don't talk about killing other peoples kids...period.

Sociopaths, on the other hand, try to concoct scenarios to make it seem "normal."

#137 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-23 03:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Normal people don't talk about killing other peoples kids...period."

He didn't talk about killing other people's kids. He talked about another person's kid getting killed because of lax safety regulations that said parent dismissed. Like I said, Speaks didn't say it the way I would have, but he also didn't say what you are saying he did. My 2 cents.

#138 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I'd love to see gal_tuesday play lawyer and defend americanunity's declared desire to see a certain congressman he doesn't like have a stroke that paralyzes him

#139 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 03:50 PM | Reply

"I'd love to see gal_tuesday play lawyer and defend americanunity's declared desire to see a certain congressman he doesn't like have a stroke that paralyzes him"

I don't know that quote either. I do know some of TH's a$$cancer posts RoC referenced.

#140 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 03:55 PM | Reply

All of this faux outrage over David Koch is sort of funny to read.

The only thing anybody even pretends to be so up in arms about is his political activism.

not his wealth, or anything else for that manner.

"The world's chances just got a little better. RIP."

how so? because David Koch is dead? there are lots more like him.....lots.

#141 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-23 04:00 PM | Reply

Omg.. an old man died?
Never saw that coming

#142 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-08-23 04:01 PM | Reply

#137 "Saddam tried to kill my daddy!"

#143 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-23 04:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

People just can't help it with headlines like that. They express how they really feel without really processing what they're saying.

It's okay....I agree with the left's opinion of David Koch for the most part.

Not the biblical ---- being spewed by complete -------.....I ignored that crap.

but the rest is fair game as far as I'm concerned.

the hysterical ---- from the usual suspects is always appreciated. Thanks.

#144 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-23 04:15 PM | Reply

assets.atlasobscura.com

#145 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-23 04:22 PM | Reply

"Sorry you can't see that, gal_tuesday. I think there was a time you would have, but your heart seems to have become hardened in the 2.5 years I was away."

LOL.

#146 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-23 04:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And i.pinimg.com

#147 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-23 04:22 PM | Reply

I'm curious.

What will libs say when George Soros dies?

#148 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-23 04:58 PM | Reply

148

Well, they're already accusing you of acting like pinchasoftly on this thread when that happens.

#149 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-23 04:59 PM | Reply

#148 | Posted by Ray

Kinder things I am sure. No comparison frankly. The Koch's personify pretty much everything wrong with both politics and this country in general today.

#150 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-08-23 05:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Here's a better question: What will Republicans say if RBG dies while Trump is still in office?

#151 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 05:12 PM | Reply

The Kochs have represented evil in the eyes of the left for a long time now.

Soros doesn't represent the same kind of evil in the eyes of the right.

Hillary would probably generate more vicious comments on the DR similar to what Koch is generating here.

#152 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-23 05:12 PM | Reply

Kinder things I am sure. No comparison frankly. The Koch's personify pretty much everything wrong with both politics and this country in general today.
#150 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

That's interesting. The right would say Soros personifies evil.

Personally, I put them both in the same class as political whores.

#153 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-23 05:40 PM | Reply

Well, they're already accusing you of acting like pinchasoftly on this thread when that happens.

#149 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I don't know what the means. But I'm sure it's not flattering.

#154 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-23 05:41 PM | Reply

Another tactic of yours, the Josef Goebbels approach, "If you repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth".

#133 | POSTED BY Sporkgoat
Youve got your boy Goebbles act down as you're a habitual liar and enormous hypocrite.

#155 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-23 06:16 PM | Reply

The Kochs have represented evil in the eyes of the left for a long time now.

#152 | Posted by eberly

The kochs used their wealth to create propaganda that helped polluters pollute more, corrupt the political system, and bribe government to allow them to profit from destroying the planet and harming innocent people.

If that's only evil in the eyes of the left, what's wrong with the eyes of the right?

#156 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"as you're a habitual liar and enormous hypocrite.

POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON "

So you keep saying, but no matter how many times I ask, you can't produce a single lie.

Say, could we get some furnishings or something up here in your head? I realize I don't pay rent, and people get what they pay for, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

#157 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-23 07:10 PM | Reply

If that's only evil in the eyes of the left, what's wrong with the eyes of the right?
#156 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Damn! I could have sworn you said you see no evil in government.

#158 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-23 07:19 PM | Reply

Damn! I could have sworn you said you see no evil in government.

#158 | Posted by Ray

Wrong as usual.

Government is a tool. Life saving in the proper hands. Life destroying in evil hands.

#159 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 08:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Government is a tool. Life saving in the proper hands. Life destroying in evil hands.
#159 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I get it. There should be one party. The Democrats.

Oh wait! That's been tried before.

#160 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-23 09:00 PM | Reply

Of the two douchebag billionaire Koch Brothers, it's douchebag Charles who's the more evil'er (my word) one of the two.

Jesus Lord
Protector of all that is good and holy
Ah, you know what to do ~
Amen!!!

#161 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-23 09:11 PM | Reply

I get it. There should be one party. The Democrats.

Oh wait! That's been tried before.

#160 | Posted by Ray

You really kicked that straw man's ass. Good job. Here's a straw trophy.

#162 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-23 09:24 PM | Reply

So you keep saying, but no matter how many times I ask, you can't produce a single lie.

Say, could we get some furnishings or something up here in your head? I realize I don't pay rent, and people get what they pay for, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

#157 | POSTED BY SporkGoat

All you post is lies. Pick a post it contains a lie.
You say you don't lie, that's a lie.
You must have real short term memory issues.

#163 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-24 12:46 AM | Reply

He talked about another person's kid getting killed because of lax safety regulations that said parent dismissed.

You must have missed the whole "I hope" thingy.

#164 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-24 01:16 AM | Reply

No, I just give more credence to the "instead of mine" thingy than you do.

#165 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-24 01:18 AM | Reply

I'd be interested to know how many people he employed and how much of his money went to philanthropic purposes.

#10 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-08-23 09:50 AM | FLAG: | FUNNY: 1: Actually he gave away over 800 million tomcharrity {and good for him} -- David Koch spent billions giving back to charity, here's where it all went: www.foxbusiness.com

The idiot who posted FUNNY should have done some research before 'posting'.

#166 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-08-24 11:53 AM | Reply

Correction my post above: tomcharrity = to charity.

#167 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-08-24 11:55 AM | Reply

Actually he gave away over 800 million tomcharrity {and good for him} -- David Koch spent billions giving back to charity, here's where it all went: www.foxbusiness.com

The idiot who posted FUNNY should have done some research before 'posting'.

#166 | POSTED BY MSGT

Not impressed.

The douchebag Koch was worth, what, $50 billion?

What's a billion toward cultivating a public image?

The trouble with charitable billionaires

www.theguardian.com

More and more wealthy CEOs are pledging to give away parts of their fortunes " often to help fix problems their companies caused. Some call this philanthrocapitalism', but is it just corporate hypocrisy?

Yes, it's corporate hyprocrisy and these unAmerican billionaires are sucking the life out of America.

#168 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 01:07 PM | Reply

Good riddance. He will not be missed. Enjoy hell.

#169 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-08-24 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I must admit, I have mixed feelings about expressing joy over another person's death. On the other hand, I have no qualms about pointing out what a P-O-S they were while alive.

#170 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-08-24 01:19 PM | Reply

"I must admit, I have mixed feelings about expressing joy over another person's death. On the other hand, I have no qualms about pointing out what a P-O-S they were while alive.

#170 | POSTED BY MODER8 "

I tnink it's sick to dance on someone's grave or wish death on someone. But I agree that while alive, anyone is fair game, unless of course they are on their death beds, which is pretty much the same as being dead.

#171 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-24 01:31 PM | Reply

Yes, it's corporate hyprocrisy and these unAmerican billionaires are sucking the life out of America.

#168 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF AT 2019-08-24 01:07 PM | FLAG: Well, '[uncool] dude', we do not at this time have any idea of what he may have left to charity in his will, now do we?

#172 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-08-24 01:43 PM | Reply

I must admit, I have mixed feelings about expressing joy over another person's death.

#170 | POSTED BY MODER8

That's understandable, but up only to a certain point.

If one is religious, especially for Christians, then this situation shouldn't be hard. If it is a hard thing for a Christian to understand, then they're not Christians, they're just amoral fools. I'm not religious ... not because I want to call myself an atheist (I'm not), it's just that I don't care about religion.

For non-religious types, looking at David Koch and what he wrought and hearing he's dead should be viewed as a positive thing for America.

The David Koch's of the world are wrecking America, period, and they deserve all the scorn and ridicule possible.

#173 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 01:44 PM | Reply

I think it's sick to dance on someone's grave or wish death on someone. But I agree that while alive, anyone is fair game, unless of course they are on their death beds, which is pretty much the same as being dead.

#171 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Here's just ONE EXAMPLE of how much of a bad person (POS, evil, douchebag, etc., don't matter pejorative) ... just how bad this ---------- David Koch was while alive ...

WSJ: Koch Groups to Mount Hard Press to Expand Private-Sector VA Services

www.wsj.com

Conservative network plans to spend millions, mobilize affiliates on a long-debated issue

Nov. 3, 2017 8:58 pm ET

WASHINGTON"A conservative goal of opening more of the Department of Veterans Affairs' medical services to the private sector is due to get a push from the well-funded Koch brothers' network.

Brothers Charles and David Koch, whose network is planning to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to advance its conservative agenda across the government and protect vulnerable congressional Republicans, will mobilize several affiliates and subgroups to battle for its vision of the future of the VA, Koch representatives said this week.


So as I have posted for years all the studies from our most prestigious medical journals showing the VA provides better healthcare to veterans that is less expensive than the private sector where it's more expensive ...

Is Charles and David Koch REALLY concerned about veterans or are they just trying to profit off them? The VA is short 40K doctors and nurses, so instead of more expensive and worse healthcare for veterans in the private sector, how about simply doing the right thing and strengthening the VA?

But this is America, money and profit ARE MORE IMPORTANT than healthcare for veterans (and for Americans in general) -- this is undeniably and outrageously true.

Again, that's just one example.

America cannot go on like this where we're the richest country in the world by far, yet half the population is poor -- and I blame millionaires and billionaires like David Koch, and I'm glad he's finally dead.

If you feel differently, that's okay, I'm not going to say you're a bad person -- but, respectfully, you'd be wrong.

#174 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 02:07 PM | Reply

"#174 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF"

I did not take a right or wrong position on Koch. My position was on the act of dancing on a grave. I think it's wrong, regardless who the person is. (extremely rare exceptions to people like Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin)

#175 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-24 02:11 PM | Reply

Well, '[uncool] dude', we do not at this time have any idea of what he may have left to charity in his will, now do we?

#172 | POSTED BY MSGT

Maybe David Koch bequeathed his $50 billion fortune to the VA so they can hire the 40,000 doctors and nurses that are needed to provide the best possible healthcare to our nations veterans?

VA Hospitals Outperform Non VA Hospitals in Most Health Care Markets
annals.org

VA has 41,500 Unfilled Medical Jobs, Forcing Veterans Into Costly Private Care
www.usatoday.com

But, I doubt it.

#176 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 02:19 PM | Reply

I did not take a right or wrong position on Koch. My position was on the act of dancing on a grave. I think it's wrong ...

#175 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

If they deserve it, then it's MORALLY right.

I'd LUV to pinch a loaf right on David Koch's headstone.

#177 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 02:22 PM | Reply

I agree with Moder8, I have no problems pointing out what sick POS' Pinche and Byrdman are for celebrating someone's death.

Get help.

#178 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-24 05:34 PM | Reply

I agree with Moder8, I have no problems pointing out what sick POS' Pinche and Byrdman are for celebrating someone's death.

Get help.

#178 | POSTED BY FakeLawyer

Get over yourself.
Take your own advice.
You are a habitual liar and the guy that pretends to be a lawyer. You are a Trump cult member who hates America.
You have no moral high ground to stand on hilljack!
Do America a favor and Go Deport yourself!

#179 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-24 06:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I agree with Moder8, I have no problems pointing out what sick POS' Pinche and Byrdman are for celebrating someone's death.

Get help.

#178 | POSTED BYRIGHTOCENTER

Ever hear of the Robber Barons from the Gilded Age?

www.thoughtco.com

Robber Baron was a term applied to a businessman in the 19th century who engaged in unethical and monopolistic practices, utilized corruptpolitical influence, faced almost no business regulation, and amassed enormous wealth.

In the 1870s the term began to be used to describe business tycoons, and the usage persisted throughout the rest of the 19th century.

The late 1800s and the first decade of the 20th century are sometimes referred to as an age of robber barons.

The Rise of Robber Barons

As the United States transformed into an industrial society with little regulation of business, it was possible for small numbers of men to dominate crucial industries.

Conditions which favored vast accumulations of wealth included the extensive natural resources being discovered as the country expanded, the enormous potential workforce of immigrants arriving in the country, and the general acceleration of business in the years following the Civil War.

Railroad builders, in particular, needing political influence to build their railways, became adept at influencing politicians through the use of lobbyists, or in some cases, outright bribery.

In the public mind, robber barons were often associated with political corruption.

The concept oflaissez fairecapitalism, which dictated no government regulation of business, was promoted.

Facing fewimpediments to creatingmonopolies, engaging inshady stock trading practices,or exploiting workers, some individuals made enormous fortunes.

The men who were called robber barons were oftenportrayed in a positive light, as "self-made men" who had helped build the nation and in the process created many jobs for American workers.

However, the public mood turned against them in the late 19th century.

Criticism from newspapers and social critics began to find an audience. And American workers began to organize in great numbers as the labor movement accelerated.

Events in labor history, such as theHomestead Strikeand thePullman Strike, intensified public resentment toward the wealthy.

The conditions of workers, when contrasted with the lavish lifestyles of millionaire industrialists, created widespread resentment.

Even other businessmen felt exploited by monopolistic practices as it was virtually impossible to compete in some fields.

Common citizens became aware that monopolists could more easily exploit workers.

Critics noted the concentration of wealth as evil or weakness of society, and satirists, such as Mark Twain, derided the showiness of the robber barons as"the Gilded Age."

In 1894 the protest march byCoxey's Armydrew enormous publicity to a group of protesters who often spoke out against a wealthy ruling class that exploited workers.

Legislation Aimed at Robber Barons

The public's increasingly negative view of trusts, or monopolies, transformed into legislation with the passage of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act in 1890.

The law did not end the reign of robber barons, but it signaled that the era of unregulated business would be coming to an end.

Over time, many of the practices of the robber barons would become illegal as further legislation sought to ensurefairness inAmerican business.


America is currently in its SECOND Gilded Age ...

www.businessinsider.com

Don't be a naive boy, grow up.

And, I'm very happy to see a modern day Robber Baron like David Koch finally die. Too bad it didn't happen sooner. Good riddance to this billionaire douchebag.

#180 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 06:41 PM | Reply

There once was a Koch from Nantucket ...

Oh, wait, I did that already.

Here ...

Take me down to worm-dirt city,
Where David Koch rots,
He deserves no pity,

Take

Me

Home

#181 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 06:49 PM | Reply

#179 | POSTED BYABORTED

You're right, I thought lawyers were rooted in judicial ethics and facts ... and didn't go overboard with emotion-based arguments.

I'm very sure this Koch Brother human turd died as comfortably as if he went to sleep, considering his billions of dollars made possible he had the best pallative and hospice care money could buy.

Millions of Americans don't have that luxury ...

The Devastating Process of Dying in America Without Insurance

www.thenation.com

While Medicare, Medicaid, and most private insurers cover hospice, millions of Americans"mostlyworking-pooradults under 65 don't have access to an insurance program.

In most of the19 statesthat have not accepted the Affordable Care Act's Medicaid expansion, for example, qualifying for Medicaid is almost impossibleunlessyou're a child, pregnant, a parent on welfare, elderly, or disabled ...

In these states, more than 3 million adults fall into what's called theACA "coverage gap": They don't qualify for Medicaid under the states' rules, but make too little to qualify for federal subsidies on the government-run insurance marketplaces.

To put this in perspective, in order to qualify for those federal subsidies, a household has to make at least 100 percent of the federal poverty level"about$20,000 a year for a family of three.

Emergency rooms are brutal places for the dying.

Patients and their families can spend entire days waiting to be seen by a doctor.

In 2013, a local news channel reported14-hourwait times at Ben Taub, with as many as 100 people at a time filling the reception area.

Terminally ill patients must describe their symptoms again and again as they pass through various levels of triage, often undergoing tests or procedures intended to lay the groundwork for treatment they know is futile.

Once admitted to the hospital, they are disturbed every couple of hours by nurses checking vital signs, even if the patient has only hours to live.

There are the sounds and smells of other patients, and the comings and goings of a legion of hospital workers.

"You're dying in a semi-public place," says Nulia.

"That can be very difficult for somebody who's trying to have an environment of respect for their dying one."

Hospitalists like Nuila try to send terminally ill patients home with as much medication as possible and some sense of how to keep their symptoms at bay.

The textbook next step for insured patients, he says, is to suggest hospice so that families can get the proper care at home.

But he knows that many of his patients can't afford it.

"In a way, we've just sort of come to accept poor outcomes for unfunded patients," he notes.

"We just say, OK, let's hope that they get hospice services, or charity hospice kicks in.'"

According to the National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization, only around1 percentof hospice services in the United States are delivered free of charge to families who otherwise have no way to pay for them.

Nonprofit hospice centers are often required to provide some charity care, but there are no government guidelines as to who should receive it or how much of it should be available in a given geographical area.One-fifthof all hospices nationwide provide no charity care.


This happens right here, in America, because of billionaire -------- like David Koch who use their billions of dollars to ensure Americans don't have safety net systems that help them die with dignity ...

Instead, suffering is milked for every last cent for corporate-bottom-line profits.

And ------- like RoC get all offended when the death of these billionaire leeches are rightfully celebrated.

#182 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 07:25 PM | Reply

"I have no problems pointing out what sick POS' Pinche and Byrdman are for celebrating someone's death."

Faux outrage noted.

#183 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-24 07:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And ------- like RoC get all offended when the death of these billionaire leeches are rightfully celebrated.

Then we can expect similar glee from when Soros or Steyer dies, right sicko?

Or is it only when someone who doesn't share your political ideology dies?

#184 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-24 08:02 PM | Reply

Then we can expect similar glee from when Soros or Steyer dies, right sicko?

From different people, but that's pretty well guaranteed.

#185 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-08-24 08:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Then we can expect similar glee from when Soros or Steyer dies, right sicko?
Or is it only when someone who doesn't share your political ideology dies?

#184 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Have fun with that, because I don't care.

I've already started a thread about billionaire fueled hubris where America's billionaires keep stepping forward as presidential candidates in a ridiculous attempt to portray themselves as a leader who'll solve America's problems ...

Why Do Billionaires Insist They're America's Great New Hope?
drudge.com

With George Soros, it's easy to defend him along racial lines because, well, you know ... the years 1939 thru 1945.

But Soros as a billionaire? I'm very sure he likes his billions, too.

Hey Georgie Soros, higher taxes like when Ike was president, you on board? If the answer is "no", then to hell with Soros (the greedy -----).

#186 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 08:12 PM | Reply

What an extremely well written obit by Rolling Stone on the ------- David Koch ...

David Koch Built a Toxic Empire " with Human Consequences
drudge.com

#187 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 08:15 PM | Reply

--'ve already started a thread

Great. Music thread hosted by Pinched!

#188 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-24 08:18 PM | Reply

#187

David Koch Built a Toxic Empire -- with Human Consequences
drudge.com

Dang nabbit, wrong link!

This one ...

David Koch Built a Toxic Empire -- with Human Consequences
drudge.com

#189 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 08:21 PM | Reply

I've already started a thread
Great. Music thread hosted by Pinched!

#188 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Here's my contribution, from Big Daddy PinchALoaf to the David Koch ...

Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye
www.youtube.com

Yesterday was a GREAT day for America!

#190 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-24 08:42 PM | Reply

Aloysius O'Hare = David Koch?
en.wikipedia.org(film)

#191 | Posted by Augustine at 2019-08-25 05:10 AM | Reply

Remember the movie "Lorax"? Aloysius O'Hare = David Koch.
en.wikipedia.org(film)

#192 | Posted by Augustine at 2019-08-25 05:11 AM | Reply

Something similar will happen when Soros dies.

#35 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2019-08-23 11:48 AM | REPLY

That's the dumbest part. They worked together.

#193 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-08-25 08:16 AM | Reply

And so passes a great, great man.

#194 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-08-25 08:19 AM | Reply

And so passes a great, great man.

#194 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Lame attempt on your part to stir the pot.

David Koch was a garbage human being, but now he's dead as a door nail -- thank God..

David Koch, a Bad Man, Has Died
splinternews.com

David Koch, the conservative billionaire who, along with his brother Charles, helped to make the world a worse place, has died at 79, Charles Koch announced on Friday.

D-E-A-D

Thank, Freaking, Gawd !

#195 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-25 08:51 AM | Reply

If your achievements are such that you get nearly 200 lefty posts congratulating you on the occasion of your death...odds are you were doing something right!

#196 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-08-25 09:02 AM | Reply

wow, absolute hatred from the left

Dems are the party of hate and racism

#197 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-08-25 09:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Dems are the party of hate and racism"
POSTED BY MAVERICK

LOL. You're adorable.

#198 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-08-25 10:10 AM | Reply

If your achievements are such that you get nearly 200 lefty posts congratulating you on the occasion of your death...odds are you were doing something right!

#196 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Lame -- I don't have $50 billion to push my personal politics, so when I die it won't be noted.

See the difference?

Post #199 -- on the road to #200 !!!

woot! Woot! WOOT!

#199 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-25 10:16 AM | Reply

# 200

#200 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-08-25 10:57 AM | Reply

"Lame -- I don't have $50 billion to push my personal politics, so when I die it won't be noted."

That's OK. There are more than enough filthy rich progressives using their billions to promote their own agendas. Save your money for yourself.

#201 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-08-25 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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