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Friday, August 30, 2019

Some children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

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So now Trump is at war with Fox News. Guess he's picking through the smallish percentage of America he hasn't totally PO'd yet.

A comment in reply to this Trump tweet: "Oh, the Hume-Hannity!"

LOL!

#1 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-08-28 09:33 PM | Reply

"I don't want to Win for myself, I only want to Win for the people."

The gaslighting never ends.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-08-29 06:57 AM | Reply

Like I've said before, He loses Fox, he loses in a landslide.

#3 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-30 03:38 AM | Reply

More Fauxrage at its finest, as I posted on the other thread on this topic:

They are not denying citizenship to the kids of US Citizens born abroad, only to "Green Card" troops stationed overseas who are not citizens:

A USCIS official further clarified the original statement for Task & Purpose after publication.

In plain English: Children who are adopted by U.S. service members abroad, and children who are born to service members while overseas who are not yet citizens (such as service members who are green card holders) will not receive automatic citizenship by merely living with their parents who are out of the U.S on orders.

The official clarified that there is no change to the acquisition of citizenship at birth, "whether to U.S. citizen military members abroad or to anyone else."

For example, if a service member or government employee who is not yet a citizen is deployed overseas and has a child with another non-U.S. citizen while deployed, their child is not a citizen under the existing law. And were that service member to become a citizen while in the service and still living abroad, that child will no longer receive automatic citizenship by living with them; originally, that child was considered as "residing in the United States" if they were a permanent resident and were living with a U.S. citizen parent abroad. That is no longer the case, because it has differed with policy from the State Department, and according to USCIS, didn't adhere to the statutory text.

Carry on with your circle flapping.

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-30 03:03 PM | Reply

My understanding is that this will also apply to situations where one parent is already a naturalized citizen, but who had spent most of their time since receiving their citizenship serving overseas, either in the military or other government service. There's a rule which requires that a naturalized citizen had to spend a minimum number of years living in the US before they could live overseas and still gain automatic citizenship for any of their children born while overseas. In the past, this residency requirement was waved for families serving overseas in the service of the United States, such as while serving in the military or with organizations like the State Department. After all, they often had no control over the fact that they are NOT living in the United States and therefore it was felt that the residency rule was unfair to them.

This has the odor of Steven Miller all over it. His goal is to reduce or eliminate ALL immigration and subsequent naturalization by anyone except white Europeans, and even then he's not so keen on some Eastern Europeans. This is just another example of how the Trump White House is chipping away at what America had meant to so many people for so many years.

Ans as for 'birthright citizenship', just give it awhile and Miller will come-up with some draconian scheme to undermine that as well.

OCU

#5 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-08-30 03:21 PM | Reply

Another Trump stroke of genius.

#6 | Posted by LesWit at 2019-08-30 03:36 PM | Reply

Now, children born to U.S. service members and government employees who are not yet themselves U.S. citizens

Main part of this. Makes sense to me. Other countries in which our citizens serve do the same thing.

#7 | Posted by boaz at 2019-08-30 04:09 PM | Reply

To be honest Boaz you yourself have said many times that only a few are true Americans serving in the military. As far as I'm concerned if the person is serving in our armed forces they are more American than most.

#8 | Posted by patron at 2019-08-30 04:30 PM | Reply

To be honest Boaz you yourself have said many times that only a few are true Americans serving in the military.

What?

As far as I'm concerned if the person is serving in our armed forces they are more American than most.

I dont know. I dont think we should give citizenship without them intending on being citizens.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2019-08-30 04:37 PM | Reply

I think joining up is proof of their intentions.

#10 | Posted by patron at 2019-08-30 04:52 PM | Reply

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Fake news, as usual:

Trump is not taking away birthright citizenship "from the children of our military serving overseas." An NBC reporter had to issue a correction: "Experts who have looked at new USCIS [U.S. Citizenship and Immigrant Services] policy say it applies if a service member adopts a child overseas, but children born to service members on deployment would still automatically get citizenship." (Evidently Joe Biden did not get that particular memo.)

Here the "correction": twitter.com

#11 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-08-30 05:08 PM | Reply

fake headline... it only applies to non us citizens.

#12 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-08-30 05:22 PM | Reply

I think joining up is proof of their intentions.

#10 | Posted by patron

I dont. Almost every other nation on earth has this policy.

#13 | Posted by boaz at 2019-08-30 09:52 PM | Reply

This potential policy change really strikes a chord for me. All of my children were born in Paraguay when I was a Peace Corps volunteer. I did not marry their mother until several years later. With this change in the law, if my kids were born today they would not be entitled to automatic US citizenship. This change in the law will be a real game changer for people in the future who find themselves in this situation.

#14 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-08-30 10:16 PM | Reply

Hahaha. Modr8 banging out the locals on a Peace Corp mission.

#15 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-30 10:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 All the html formatting in the world couldn't convert your post into a justification for this policy. Carry on with your "non Trump voter 24/7 Trump supporter" posting.

#16 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-30 11:09 PM | Reply

#16

It's something called "the Law", Joe, sorry pointing out what it means destroys your Narrative.

#17 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-30 11:15 PM | Reply

#14

Why, were you a green card holder while in the Peace Corps? The law hasn't changed, if you are a citizen then your kids are...wait for it...US citizens regardless of where they are born, all you have to do is declare paternity if you haven't yet married their mother.

"A child who is born to U.S. citizen parents (or in some cases, to only one U.S. citizen parent) outside the U.S. may automatically become a U.S. citizen. This is called "acquisition" of U.S. citizenship.

When this child marries and has children, those children may also acquire U.S. citizenship at birth, regardless of where they are born. This means that you can, in effect, get U.S. citizenship through a grandparent, even if your parent never realized that he or she was a U.S. citizen."

Automatic U.S. Citizenship for Children by Birth To Citizen Parents (Acquisition)

#18 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-30 11:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's something called "the Law"

I know what the law says, moron. You have articulated zero reason why it's a good thing.

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-30 11:26 PM | Reply

#15

Piece corps

#20 | Posted by willowby at 2019-08-30 11:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I know what the law says, moron.

You sure don't act like it, the law HASN'T CHANGED, this policy alert just makes its application consistent with State Department policy set during the Obama Administration.

#21 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-08-30 11:35 PM | Reply

the law HASN'T CHANGED

Duh. The way the government has decided to interpret and implement it has changed. The new policy directive states:

USCIS no longer considers children of U.S. government employees and U.S. armed forces members residing outside the United States as "residing in the United States" for purposes of acquiring citizenship under INA 320.
The problem with this is that the law (8 USCA 1433(d)) actually says
"In the case of a child of a member of the Armed Forces of the United States...(1) any period of time during which the member of the Armed Forces is residing abroad pursuant to official orders shall be treated, for purposes of subsection (a)(2)(A), as physical presence in the United States."
Which is perhaps why a USCIS official
admittedthat the new interpretation is unsupported by the statute:
"It isn't what the law says," [a USCIS] official said. "If I could change the law to our interpretation, I would happily do so. But the fact of the matter is, it's just not what the statute says."

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-31 06:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Fake news, as usual:
Trump is not taking away birthright citizenship "from the children of our military serving overseas."

Not because he hasn't said he wants to though but because he can't take away a right granted by the 14th Amendment. He would if he could, make no mistake about it.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-31 09:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"A child who is born to U.S. citizen parents (or in some cases, to only one U.S. citizen parent) outside the U.S. may automatically become a U.S. citizen. This is called "acquisition" of U.S. citizenship.

#18 | Posted by Rightocenter

That's how Ted Cruz acquired his status as a US citizen.

OCU

#24 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-08-31 09:35 PM | Reply

leftists demand that any third-worlder born within 10 quadrillion light years of the southern american border be given automatic citizenship, voting rights, free everything, and be pandered to 24/7. It's too bad that we can't lavish these kinds of things on our own citizens, because, you know, dat's rayciss.

#25 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-09-01 12:50 AM | Reply

I'd just be happy if the people who were already citizens would have their right to vote protected.

OCU

#26 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-09-01 01:06 AM | Reply

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