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Thursday, August 29, 2019

Deutsche Bank's disclosure on Tuesday that it has tax returns related to President Trump's family or business set off a frenzy of speculation about what those materials might reveal.

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"...set off a frenzy of speculation..."

Bring plenty of wet wipes. This thread will drenched in fantasy.

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-29 04:22 PM | Reply

Is this another one from MSLSD to get the sheep on the left all hopped up? Doesn't take much.

#2 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-08-29 04:24 PM | Reply

The only thing smoking is the fauxllusionist's crack pipe.

#3 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-08-29 04:35 PM | Reply

Three previous posters all whistling past their favorite graveyards.

Donald Trump is mentally ill man with a documented sociopathic personal history, especially in finances. Yeah, we'll find a gun somewhere, and that bitch will be smoking.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-08-29 06:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There is something in Trump's tax returns he doesn't want the public to see. I don't know what it is, but we all know that if those returns showed Trump to be the billionaire he claims to be, someone who pays his fair share of taxes and donates to generously charity, he'd be publishing them on the WH website.

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-29 06:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- There is something in Trump's tax returns he doesn't want the public to see.

Maybe Danforth can tell us if there's a line to write in "Russian Oligarch Money".

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-29 06:17 PM | Reply

At this point who really cares about his tax returns.

He's been in office for 2.5 years. Everyone knows what he'll be like as POTUS for a second term. Yes, it would have been great to see them in 16 for the sake of transparency. It reminds me of conservatives bitching about Obama's college transcripts after he won in 08. By the time 12 rolled around we all knew enough about him as POTUS that negated any value of seeing his transcripts.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-29 06:24 PM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Trump's erratic behavior makes it appear that he is beholden to someone. That is why I would like his tax returns and other financial disclosures released and perused by professionals. As Gal said above there is a reason he is hiding them. If he had nothing to hide he would have rubbed everyone's noses in them ages ago.

#8 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2019-08-29 06:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is this another one from MSLSD to get the sheep on the left all hopped up? Doesn't take much.

#2 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Any idiot who uses Mark Levin's stupid MSLSD "insult" can't comment on the low bar of others.

In other words, don't wear your sign if you want to be taken seriously.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-29 06:43 PM | Reply

#7 there's no comparison between the tax returns and transcripts.

The transcripts were nothing more than a right wing garbage pile because of the stupid Barry Sotoro conspiracy theory.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-29 06:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Everyone knows what he'll be like as POTUS for a second term.
#7 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

If you think Trump is bad now. Just wait.
He'll be a lame duck president who can do whatever the hell he wants.

#11 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-29 06:46 PM | Reply

It reminds me of conservatives bitching about Obama's college transcripts after he won in 08.

Would college transcripts tell you whether the President is beholden to a foreign adversary of the United States?

Jesus christ Jeff. Your false equivalence has reached ridiculous levels.

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-29 07:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

Would college transcripts tell you whether the President is beholden to a foreign adversary of the United States?

Jesus christ Jeff. Your false equivalence has reached ridiculous levels.

#12 | POSTED BY JOE

My argument is at this point you (and everybody else) know who and what Trump is.

Seeing a tax return isn't going to change that - not at this point.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-08-29 11:09 PM | Reply

-Would college transcripts tell you whether the President is beholden to a foreign adversary of the United States?

no.

But if tax returns didn't tell you what you already believe....are you going to shut up about it?

I think we both know that answer.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2019-08-29 11:23 PM | Reply

My argument is at this point you (and everybody else) know who and what Trump is.

An argument which is not aided by analogizing college transceipts to tax returns.

In a way you're right though. I already know Trump is Putin's bitch - it was made clear in Helsinki repeatedly thereafter - so i don't need a tax return or any other document to spell that out for me. Meanwhile, you'd probably defend Trump even if his financials did show he was beholden to a foreign adversary of the United States.

There's also the matter of Trump being such a loathsome POS that he'd probably start a war to deflect attention from his tax returns if they were ever leaked. So getting the tax returns is pointless.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-30 05:37 AM | Reply

I already know Trump is Putin's bitch

#15 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-08-30 05:37 AM"

That's for sure. Did you hear the latest? Three days ago Putin told Trump he wanted more sanctions against Russia and Trump obliged.

www.nytimes.com

#16 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 05:47 AM | Reply

If Trump's tax returns made him look good, or even could be spun to make him look good, they would already be available for download in PDF format on the White House website.

#17 | Posted by anton at 2019-08-30 06:31 AM | Reply

RE: # 16

That's one interpretation.
A few anecdotal actions are hardly indicative of a consistent, overall strategic plan.

What seems more plausible is that President Trump thrives on receiving public attention. The hunger his ego has is so extreme that there is hardly anything he won't do or say to feed his ego. What some misconstrue to be clever "chess moves" are actually more representative of chaotic, short-sighted "loose cannon". As long as President Trump is able to direct attention to himself, he thinks that there are no "bad moves".

If one still believes President Trump is clever (even brilliant!), then one should consider some words from Machiavelli:

"The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccol Machiavelli

#18 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-08-30 06:51 AM | Reply

Would college transcripts tell you whether the President is beholden to a foreign adversary of the United States? I #12 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-29 07:01 PM

No more so than his tax returns would.

#19 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-30 07:21 AM | Reply

"A few anecdotal actions are hardly indicative of a consistent, overall strategic plan.

POSTED BY TRUEBLUE"

There is no "consistent overall strategic plan" when it comes to Trump and Russia. The press says it's true and you guys eat it up and regurgitate it as truth. Same thing with the "Trump wants to nuke a hurricane". This isn't true, but some lame unheard of source (axios) said it, and you guys ate it up.

Face it, if the press says something anti-Trump, y'all gobble it up.

#20 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:25 AM | Reply

"What seems more plausible is that President Trump thrives on receiving public attention. The hunger his ego has is so extreme that there is hardly anything he won't do or say to feed his ego.

POSTED BY TRUEBLUE"

This is absolutely true. You'll get no argument from me on that point. His ego is why he is always saying outrageous things. He loves and craves the attention. That's why I don't as worked up ove what he says as left wingers do.

#21 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:28 AM | Reply

RE: #21

I won't speak for what others think, but personally I get 'worked up over' what President Trump says/does not because they are outrageous, but because they could be indications of an unstable person. It's one thing to dismiss the actions of a person who is throwing a temper tantrum as mere 'attention seeking'. It's quite another thing to ignore that same person when they are in possession of a live grenade. I suspect there are other folks that are getting 'worked up' for similar reasons.

#22 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-08-30 07:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's quite another thing to ignore that same person when they are in possession of a live grenade.

#22 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-08-30 07:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think you are expected to ignore the grenade.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2019-08-30 08:01 AM | Reply

No more so than his tax returns would.

Not necessarily true. If he has a loan with a foreign entity and deducted the interest paid as a business expense, that would be disclosed on his Form 1120, as would the fact that any foreign entity has a 20% or more interest in any of his entities.

Just one example. Depending how his businesses are structured there are other documents that might also disclose ties to others.

#24 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-30 11:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bring plenty of wet wipes. This thread will drenched in fantasy.

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism

What's your fantasy about trump not being a crook drenched in?

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 06:19 PM | Reply

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