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Friday, August 30, 2019

A new study, due to be published in the journal Organizational Dynamics, has found that, following the #MeToo movement, men are significantly more reluctant to interact with their female colleagues.

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Who didn't see this coming?

#1 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 05:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What snowflakes.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-08-30 07:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Women are so damned powerful. It's like magic. Ju-ju, bwana.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2019-08-30 07:55 AM | Reply

Hey look

A quarter of men are are immature paranoid pusses

There is your base

#4 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-08-30 09:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

Waaaaaaaaaaaaa

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-30 09:31 AM | Reply

Working with them is worse than marrying them. Lose half your stuff without getting laid.

#6 | Posted by Vaquero at 2019-08-30 09:38 AM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

No, those are men that have skin in the game with children and families.

Rather than dragging their family through the unimaginable, they look at the RiskToReward and choose wisely.
www.wsj.com

#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-30 09:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaa

#5 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR "

I'll bet it took Laura at least an hour to formulate that response.

#8 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 09:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's too bad what man-hating 3rd-wave feminists have done to the culture. The victims are their "sisters" who just want to succeed and aren't interested in ideology.

#9 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-30 09:43 AM | Reply

@#9 ... It's too bad what man-hating 3rd-wave feminists have done to the culture. ...

I notice how you blithely ignore what has been done over the years to women by those men you seem to defend.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-30 10:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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@#1 ... Who didn't see this coming? ...

It is the typical over-reaction in a case like this.

The pendulum swung too far in one direction, now it is swinging back too far in the other direction. Over time, the pendulum will settle in the appropriate place.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-30 10:42 AM | Reply

#MeToo Backlash: Men Avoiding Women in Workplace

Who saw that coming?

#12 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-08-30 12:15 PM | Reply

HR usually knows who the nutters and opportunists are.

They almost always present themselves regularly lodging complaints or defending themselves against complaints.

Every HR has a small crowd of problem employees. Document your interactions and steer clear of one-on-one issues.

#13 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-30 12:49 PM | Reply

I mean...you could just work together and not sexually harass them...

Wouldn't that be easier than avoiding them?

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-08-30 01:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Talk to women like a co-worker. Don't touch them. Be respectful. It ain't difficult.

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-08-30 01:07 PM | Reply

--Talk to women like a co-worker. Don't touch them. Be respectful. It ain't difficult.

No kidding. I've done that all my life. And I didn't even have a sexual harassment training session!

#16 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-30 01:12 PM | Reply

Talk to women like a co-worker. Don't touch them. Be respectful. It ain't difficult. #15 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT

Yup, this.

Also don't have one-on-ones with anyone out of the office unless others are invited. But I also work in an environment where gender doesn't matter but appearances of fraternization in outside the office could derail a career path.

#17 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-08-30 01:25 PM | Reply

Where I work, the women are so ugly they have nothing to worry about.

When I was hired, the HR manager gave me the standard lecture on sexual harassment.
She was so hot, it was all I could do to keep myself from grabbing her.
I wonder if she sensed it by the way I was gawking at her.

#18 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-30 01:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Who didn't see this coming?

#1 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 05:37 AM

I didn't, but then again my parents taught me manners.

#19 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-08-30 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"She was so hot, it was all I could do to keep myself from grabbing her.
I wonder if she sensed it by the way I was gawking at her.
#18 | POSTED BY RAY"

And from that day forward, you were known at work as "Creepy Ray."

#20 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2019-08-30 01:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't avoid women in the workplace, but i'm not a -------- so ymmv.

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-30 01:45 PM | Reply

And from that day forward, you were known at work as "Creepy Ray."
#20 | POSTED BY MONTECORE

She wanted my full attention and she had it.

Unlike a certain politician, I never touch.

#22 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-30 01:51 PM | Reply

Jimmy Kimmel met his wife at work. He was the producer of the show, his wife was a writer and an EMPLOYEE. Therefore by modern definitions, him expressing any interest in her at all was a violation and should result in him getting fired or disciplined. Yet they are happily married and started a family. A family that wouldnt exist if he had followed the new rules.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 01:52 PM | Reply

I notice how you blithely ignore what has been done over the years to women by those men you seem to defend. - #10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-08-30 10:39 AM
This is completely false. It was definitely not THOSE men who have done anything to women. No honest person would claim that anyone is defending men who have behaved badly. The men making these choices aren't the men who have harassed or assaulted women. They aren't men who don't trust themselves to be alone with women. These are men who know that they are not going to harass anyone, but want to be protected from possible false accusations.

#24 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-30 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Who didn't see this coming?
#1 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 05:37 AM
I didn't, but then again my parents taught me manners.

#19 | POSTED BY SUNTZUMEOW AT 2"

Mine taught me manners,too, as well as common sense. I guess that's why I saw this coming and you didn't.

#25 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 02:00 PM | Reply

OK, the rules that mater. 1) Don't play where you work. 2) Don't do the help. 3) Don't get on your knees for your boss. You are not being paid to start a romance.

#26 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-08-30 02:17 PM | Reply

OK, the rules that mater. 1) Don't play where you work. 2) Don't do the help. 3) Don't get on your knees for your boss. You are not being paid to start a romance.

#26 | Posted by docnjo

So Jimmy Kimmel should never have asked out the woman who became his happy wife and the mother of their kids?

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 02:34 PM | Reply

Not surprised. While I'm certain there are many women with legitimate claim to harassment, the way this #metoo thing has gone, I won't even touch my wife anymore.

#28 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-08-30 02:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"So Jimmy Kimmel should never have asked out the woman who became his happy wife and the mother of their kids?

#27 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

That's up to him. If he wants to take the risk all the more power to him. I met my wife at work long before #metoo. Even then, I waited until after work until I asked her out the first time.

These days, I'd be even wary of that. I'm retired now, but I understand from #metoo, it's not PC to even tell a woman she has a nice dress on. So I don't unless it's someone I know.

The cashier at the Lowe's I shop at is cool about it. She's just the sweetest little old black lady who comes up to me and hugs me when she sees me in the store. I'm not afraid to tell her she looks nice.

A few years ago (before #metoo) I held the door open for a woman who admonished me. She said, very curtly, "I can get it myself". Unblievable. I said, "I'm sorry. I thought you were a lday". If looks could kill.

#29 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 02:56 PM | Reply

the way this #metoo thing has gone, I won't even touch my wife anymore. #28 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

LOL! Oh no....

#30 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-08-30 03:00 PM | Reply

In my 49+ year engineering career, I've had female co-workers, female subordinates and even female bosses, and we never had any problems. And while I've been happily married since I was 19 years old, some of these females over the years were married themselves and some were single, and at no time were there any issues. And we didn't just interact in an office environment, we traveled together to trade shows, customer visits, conferences, corporate meetings, etc, some were domestic and some were international, and at no time were there any porblems. We treated each other as professionals irrespective of our gender or our respective places on an org-chart.

The real problem with this 'I can't be alone with a women' syndrome is that it's harmful to the opportunities that women will have to succeed in business and industry. If they're not allowed to interact freely during normal business activities and events, this will unfairly limit their professional careers.

OCU

#31 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-08-30 03:04 PM | Reply

I won't even touch my wife anymore.
#28 | Posted by Whatsleft

Works out well for your wife.

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-30 03:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Who didn't see this coming?

#1 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Good article, Goat!

So there you go: most men are perfectly aware of the difference between a friendly hug and a creepy hug. They are perfectly aware of what constitutes harassment and what doesn't. Which makes you wonder why so many men are afraid to interact with women at work?

The answer to that question, perhaps, is that a lot of men aren't so much afraid of being accused of anything as they are they are angry that #MeToo ever happened. They're angry that they've been made to think about their behavior, made to interrogate power dynamics they always took for granted, and they are punishing women for it by refusing to interact with them.

It's worth noting, I think, that the Harvard Business Review article previewing the study's 2019 results is headlined The #MeToo Backlash. You see that phrase a lot and that framing subtly implies that #MeToo went too far, that a backlash is only natural. It's yet another form of victim-blaming; another way to quietly put women back in their place.

#33 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-08-30 03:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jimmy Kimmel met his wife at work. He was the producer of the show, his wife was a writer and an EMPLOYEE. Therefore by modern definitions, him expressing any interest in her at all was a violation and should result in him getting fired or disciplined.

#24 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

Ridiculous. Shows just how much this discussion is needed. You don't know there's a big difference between sexual harassment/assault and consensual relationships?

#34 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-08-30 03:27 PM | Reply

you could just work together and not sexually harass them...
Wouldn't that be easier than avoiding them?
#14 | Posted by Sycophant

What one person calls sexual harassment might different than another. God help the poor sombich that says, "Good morning Mary, that's a nice hairdo you have today."

#35 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-08-30 03:31 PM | Reply

Ridiculous. Shows just how much this discussion is needed. You don't know there's a big difference between sexual harassment/assault and consensual relationships?

#34 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar

How do you know if it's consensual until you try flirting with someone? You have to break the rules first. Then you find out if it's consensual or unwanted harrassment. You have to break the rule to figure out if you'll get in trouble for breaking the rule or not.

Jimmy Kimmel obviously had a crush on his wife before he asked her out. At some point he made the first move - a boss flirted with his employee, which we are told is never okay.

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 03:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"you could just work together and not sexually harass them...
Wouldn't that be easier than avoiding them?
#14 | Posted by Sycophant "

The point is false allegations occur. In the extreme, men can be sent to prison based on nothing more than a false allegation by a woman. Sexual harassment does not have to occur.

#37 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 03:36 PM | Reply

Jimmy Kimmel met his wife at work. He was the producer of the show, his wife was a writer and an EMPLOYEE. Therefore by modern definitions, him expressing any interest in her at all was a violation and should result in him getting fired or disciplined.
#24 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE
Ridiculous. Shows just how much this discussion is needed. You don't know there's a big difference between sexual harassment/assault and consensual relationships? - #34 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-08-30 03:27 PM

None of what you posted is contained in my #24.
Any particular reason you're making false posts?
Shows how much reviewing and editing of your work is needed.

#38 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-30 03:37 PM | Reply

"Jimmy Kimmel obviously had a crush on his wife before he asked her out. At some point he made the first move - a boss flirted with his employee, which we are told is never okay.

#36 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

Did it happen at the workplace or outside of it?

#39 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 03:39 PM | Reply

The real problem with this 'I can't be alone with a women' syndrome is that it's harmful to the opportunities that women will have to succeed in business and industry. If they're not allowed to interact freely during normal business activities and events, this will unfairly limit their professional careers.

OCU

#31 | Posted by OCUser

That's a problem created by the trial-by-accusation approach that has been taken under #metoo. The stakes are incredibly high and people can have their lives, careers, and futures ruined by a problem in the workplace. If the stakes were more rational, and unwelcome flirting didn't mean your life could be destroyed, then men wouldn't be so paranoid and women wouldnt be missing opportunities.

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 03:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Did it happen at the workplace or outside of it?

#39 | Posted by goatman

Should that matter? He was still her boss no matter no matter where they were physically located.

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 03:40 PM | Reply

In my 49+ year engineering career,...OCU - #31 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-08-30 03:04 PM
The overwhelmingly vast majority of African-Americans go their entire lives without meeting up with the one cop where things go badly. Just because an event is unlikely, the chances are minuscule, doesn't stop African-Americans from having 'the talk' with their kids in preparation for the day that minuscule chance happens. Just like the likelihood of a false allegation is small, it is there.

#42 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-30 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Should that matter? He was still her boss no matter no matter where they were physically located.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

Answer my question, then I'll answer yours. I asked first.

#43 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 03:46 PM | Reply

Answer my question, then I'll answer yours. I asked first.

#43 | Posted by goatman

You're on your own goat. I lack the energy for your games today.

#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 03:47 PM | Reply

"You're on your own goat. I lack the energy for your games today.

#44 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

So you don't know. No worries. I knew you didn't. So if Jimmy was smart, he asked her out in a non working environment.

#45 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 03:51 PM | Reply

#45 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Your reading comprehension is abysmal.

Why are you always so desperate to troll?

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 03:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Your reading comprehension is abysmal.

#46 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Actually, it's very good and has always been far above average ever since I learned to read.

You need to see if you can get your money back on that channeling course you took. It ain't working.

#47 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 03:54 PM | Reply

#47 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Thanks for proving my point, sometimes you make it too easy.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 03:58 PM | Reply

"Thanks for proving my point, sometimes you make it too easy.

#48 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

You're welcome. If I didn't make it easy, you wouldn't be able to get it done.

Now begone, troll!

#49 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 03:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Now begone, troll!
#49 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Says the biggest troll in the DR.

I would put money on you winning the award for, "biggest troll on the DR".

By a wide margin.

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 04:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

:I would put money on you winning the award for, "biggest troll on the DR".
By a wide margin.
POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

You're right.

Now begone, stalker.

#51 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 04:03 PM | Reply

Now begone, stalker.
#51 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

LOL!

I enjoy your constant victim status.

You poor thing.

You thin skin must be blistered.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"You thin skin must be blistered.

#52 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-08-30 04:19 PM "

It is.

Now begone, stalker!

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 04:20 PM | Reply

Now begone, stalker!
#53 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Shower me with your tears.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 04:55 PM | Reply

"Shower me with your tears.
#54 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

If I do, will you quit stalking me?

#55 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 05:04 PM | Reply

If I do, will you quit stalking me?

#55 | Posted by goatman

This thread was about the metoo backlash.

Now it's all about you.

Congratulations minitrump.

#56 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 05:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Congratulations minitrump.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

And clownshack should never have steered it there, should he have? You DO realize he did that with his post 46, right? You DO realize he continued it every time I told him to stop stalking me, right? You DO realize that you are continuing by bring me up, right?

Probably not. C'est la vie.

#57 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 05:17 PM | Reply

Talk to women like a co-worker. Don't touch them. Be respectful. It ain't difficult.

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent

You tell them to go f off when they give you some crap? Funny.

#58 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-08-30 05:32 PM | Reply

"Actually, it's very good and has always been far above average ever since I learned to read.
#47 | POSTED BY GOATMAN"

#stablegenius

#59 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2019-08-30 05:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

And clownshack should never have steered it there, should he have? You DO realize he did that with his post 46, right? You DO realize he continued it every time I told him to stop stalking me, right? You DO realize that you are continuing by bring me up, right?

Probably not. C'est la vie.

#57 | Posted by goatman

If this happened on every thread clownshack appeared on then I'd blame him. But it doesn't. This happens on every thread YOU appear on.

#60 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 05:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

This thread was about the metoo backlash. But now you and clownshack keep making it about me.

Begone, stalker.

#61 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 05:53 PM | Reply

clownshack should never have steered it there, should he have?
#57 | Posted by Goatman

The party of "personal responsibility" has a "blame others first" mentality.

Poor Goat. Always a victim.

#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 05:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Begone, stalker.
#61 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Anyone who points out what a fkkking idiot you are, becomes your stalker?

Your victim status is at an all time high.

Too bad you can't blame anyone but your own stupid posts.

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 05:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Poor Goat. Always a victim.
#62 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK :

Begone, stalker. It pisses your girlfriend off that you hijacked this thread.

#64 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 05:57 PM | Reply

"Too bad you can't blame anyone but your own stupid posts.

#63 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Yeah, too bad.

Now begone, stalker.

#65 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 05:58 PM | Reply

Begone, stalker.
#64 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Begone, troll.

#66 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 05:59 PM | Reply

You morons ruin every thread with your relentless stalking of Goatman.

#67 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-30 06:00 PM | Reply

Now begone, stalker.
#65 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Your vocabulary is dreadful.

No wonder you constantly fail reading comprehension.

Too many words for you to understand.

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:01 PM | Reply

You morons ruin every thread with your relentless stalking of Goatman.

#67 | Posted by nullifidian

Get a room.

#69 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-30 06:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Too many words for you to understand.

#68 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Yes, it is.

Now begone, stalker.

#70 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:06 PM | Reply

You morons ruin every thread with your relentless stalking of Goatman.
#67 | Posted by nullifidian

There aren't enough funny flags available for this comment.

Goatman ruined the DR when he came back.

All he's done is engage in petty trolling.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now begone, stalker.
#70 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Goat. You're an idiot.

There's nothing more that can be said.

Since you've been back all you've done is trolled and lied.

You're worthless.

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You're worthless.
#72 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

You're right. Now begone, stalker

#73 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:12 PM | Reply

"All he's done is engage in petty trolling.

#71 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

You're right.

Now begone, stalker

#74 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:13 PM | Reply

#71 | Posted by ClownShack

You're as worthless as JPW. I think I'll plonk you as well.

#75 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-30 06:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You're right. Now begone, stalker
#73 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-08-30 06:12 PM | FLAG: petty trolling


The following users appear most often in killfiles.

sniper, 39 plonks
goatman, 30 plonks
sheepleschism, 26 plonks


Seems like the DR has spoken.

We'd all be happier if you were gone, troll.

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:15 PM | Reply

Now begone, stalker
#73 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Now begone, stalker
#74 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Seems like you're stuck on repeat.

Is you head hurting? Are you having a stroke?

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:16 PM | Reply

"We'd all be happier if you were gone, troll.

#76 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

You're right.

Now begone, stalker.

#78 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:16 PM | Reply

"Is you head hurting? Are you having a stroke?

#77 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

You're right.

Now begone, stalker

#79 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:17 PM | Reply

Now begone, stalker.
#78 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Nope. I never wrote a thread about leaving the DR.

You did.

You shouldn't have come back.

Do yourself a favor.

Get the fffk out of here.

#80 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--We'd all be happier if you were gone, troll.

"We" being the mob with pitchforks and torches. Go get the monster! The fiend must be found!

#81 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-30 06:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Get the fffk out of here.

#80 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK :

Begone, stalker

#82 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:21 PM | Reply

Begone, stalker
#82 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Begone, troll.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:22 PM | Reply

:#83 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Begone, stalker

#84 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:23 PM | Reply

goatman, 30 plonks

The majority of people who haven't plonked you find you to be a moron.

How sad, you come to a blog were no one wants you around.

Because your real life is empty.

You worthless flesh bag.

#85 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:25 PM | Reply

"You worthless flesh bag.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Begone, stalker

#86 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:26 PM | Reply

goatman, 30 plonks

How sad, you come to a blog were no one wants you around.

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:28 PM | Reply

"How sad, you come to a blog were no one wants you around.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Begone, stalker

#88 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:29 PM | Reply

goatman, 30 plonks

The majority of people who haven't plonked you find you to be a moron."

So why don't you become 31 and we won't have to read your endless whining?

#89 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-30 06:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Clownshack likes to smell his own farts.

#90 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-30 06:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

goatman, 30 plonks

How sad, you come to a blog were no one wants you around.

#91 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:33 PM | Reply

I've never been so relentlessly stalked before. Even my girlfriend isn't this obsessed over me.

#92 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:33 PM | Reply

--Clownshack likes to smell his own farts.

While at work, on his employer's dime.

#93 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-30 06:34 PM | Reply

"How sad, you come to a blog were no one wants you around.

#91 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Begone, stalker

#94 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:34 PM | Reply

I've never been so relentlessly stalked before. Even my girlfriend isn't this obsessed over me.
#92 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

I'm not letting you get the last word in?

Must be unusual for a troll of your caliber.


Begone, stalker
#94 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

goatman, 30 plonks

How sad, you come to a blog were no one wants you around.

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:39 PM | Reply

"#95 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-08-30 06:39 PM |"

Begone, stalker

#96 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:41 PM | Reply

goatman, 30 plonks

How sad, you come to a blog were no one wants you around.

What a fun copy and paste game this has become.

What do you call it goat, lazy trolling?

Fun!!

#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:44 PM | Reply

"Fun!!

#97 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Begone stalker

#98 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:46 PM | Reply

Begone stalker
#98 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Weirdly enough. I find it boring to copy and paste.

Guess you are a better troll.

No wonder you won the award.

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:48 PM | Reply

"No wonder you won the award.

#99 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Begone, stalker

#100 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:49 PM | Reply

Begone, stalker
#100 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

You're obsessed!

I like it.

Let's see if I can guess your response.

"Begone, stalker"?

#101 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 06:51 PM | Reply

:Let's see if I can guess your response.
"Begone, stalker"?
#101 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Begone, stalker

#102 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 06:54 PM | Reply

I win a prize!

I hope my prize is goatman stops responding.

Hard to keep up with a retired shut in.

#103 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 07:10 PM | Reply

On a side note. The comments page looks awesome.

Just goat, trolling all over it.

#104 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 07:11 PM | Reply

"I hope my prize is goatman stops responding.
Hard to keep up with a retired shut in.

#103 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK :

Begone, stalker

#105 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:13 PM | Reply

Begone, stalker
#105 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

You're lucky I'm preoccupied.

Currently we're quibbling over who gets the last word.

If I had the free time I'd really show you what a stalker is.

Stalking would be so much more fun.

#106 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 07:23 PM | Reply

"Stalking would be so much more fun.

#106 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Begone, stalker

#107 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:25 PM | Reply

Nope.

#108 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 07:25 PM | Reply

#108 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Begone, stalker

#109 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:29 PM | Reply

Nope

#110 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 07:29 PM | Reply

Mine taught me manners,too, as well as common sense.
#25 | Posted by goatman

Citation necessary.

#111 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 07:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Citation necessary.

POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-08-30 07:33 PM "

I'm the one involved and my word is good.

#112 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I enjoy your constant victim status.

You poor thing.

You thin skin must be blistered.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack

Blistered? That poor baby probably looks like a 3rd degree burn victim.

#113 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 07:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'm the one involved and my word is good.
#112 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

The similarities between Goat and Trump are uncanny.

They're both old, fat, morons who lie, attack, troll and then play victim.

#114 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 07:40 PM | Reply

"The similarities between Goat and Trump are uncanny.

They're both old, fat, morons who lie, attack, troll and then play victim.

#114 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Begone stalker

#115 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:44 PM | Reply

"Blistered? That poor baby probably looks like a 3rd degree burn victim.

#113 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-08-30 07:40 PM "

Begone, stalker.

#116 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:46 PM | Reply

I'm the one involved and my word is good.

#112 | Posted by goatman

Not in my experience.

#117 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 07:48 PM | Reply

"Not in my experience.

#117 | POSTED BY JPW "

Oh, well.

#118 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:50 PM | Reply

Begone, stalker.

#116 | Posted by goatman

You first.

#119 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 07:51 PM | Reply

The % is rather low for men who feel the need to do this.

I'm guessing it's men who know their behavior is questionable but don't seem to think they could control themselves.

#120 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 07:59 PM | Reply

"The % is rather low for men who feel the need to do this.
I'm guessing it's men who know their behavior is questionable but don't seem to think they could control themselves.

#120 | POSTED BY JPW "

THat's not the issue. The issue is false accusations.

#121 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 08:01 PM | Reply

You office ------- crack me up. Nerds. I am referring both to the article and you commenters. Get a grip. We have a game at work where we try to piss on the others (while wearing raingear) without them noticing. I sure wouldn't piss on a lady crewmembers tho...

Not sure what any of this means.
I'll let myself out.

#122 | Posted by Ottodog at 2019-08-30 08:09 PM | Reply

Jesus ------- Christ, ANOTHER Goatman hijacked thread

#123 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-30 08:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

THat's not the issue. The issue is false accusations.

#121 | Posted by goatman

An extremely rare occurrence.

I'm rather confident in my abilities to avoid an accusation because I'm confident in my behavior being inoffensive.

#124 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 08:23 PM | Reply

Jesus ------- Christ, ANOTHER Goatman hijacked thread

#123 | Posted by truthhurts

Begone stalker!

-GoaTSharT

#125 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 08:24 PM | Reply

"The issue is false accusations."

"I'll take things a predator worries about for $200, Alex."

Don't want to be blamed for Sexual harassment?

Don't engage in it.

#126 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 08:28 PM | Reply

Stop trying to molest Goatman. Retort has a sexual harassment policy, you know.

#127 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-30 08:33 PM | Reply

This (the poster, the thread, and the comments) is an absolute load of goat feces.

Rock on, Rcade.

#128 | Posted by Angrydad at 2019-08-30 09:13 PM | Reply

An extremely rare occurrence. ~ JPW

Its not that its a rare event, its that its an unexpected event. Meaning you never know where its going to come from or why?

There are plenty of rare occurrences upon which people adjust their behaviors, for rational risk related reasons.

Is the risk really worth it? If you have a family? wife? kids? a home? a good paying job?

Whats the upside?
Whats the downside?

Your answer would indicate two things.
1. You have never met anyone that has been through the wringer regarding this.
2. You don't have much to lose.

We have "virtual" meetings at work, mostly women work in our location. I never take the call with one of them in a conference room where we are alone together, I will just use my desk and they are on their own. If its not in public space, I simply won't talk to them. I won't goto lunch with them alone.

Its too much risk ... and there is no reward for doing so.

Is this unprofessional? Am I mistreating them, I don't think so, just being risk averse.

#129 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-30 09:30 PM | Reply

Don't want to be blamed for Sexual harassment?
Don't engage in it. - #126 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 08:28 PM

Sounds like what someone ignorant of the number of false accusations would say.
Maybe you should work to make yourself less ignorant.
And what do you recommend that the people who are falsely accused do if they don't want to be blamed for sexual harassment?


A multi-site study of eight U.S. communities including 2,059 cases of sexual assault found a 7.1 percent rate of false reports (Lonsway, Archambault, & Lisak, 2009).

A study of 136 sexual assault cases in Boston from 1998-2007 found a 5.9 percent rate of false reports (Lisak et al., 2010).

Using qualitative and quantitative analysis, researchers studied 812 reports of sexual assault from 2000-2003 and found a 2.1 percent rate of false reports (Heenan & Murray 2006).


www.nsvrc.org

#130 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-30 09:46 PM | Reply

An extremely rare occurrence. - #124 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 08:23 PM
The study I cited above show a false accusation rate greater than 1 in 20. That is hardly an extremely rare occurrence.

#131 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-08-30 09:48 PM | Reply

1in 20 maybe a large percentage, 5.

On the other hand most of us go our whole lives having never been accused of it.

#132 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-08-30 09:59 PM | Reply

"Jesus ------- Christ, ANOTHER Goatman hijacked thread

#123 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS "

Actually, clownshack hijacked it at post 46. I repeatedly asked him not to stalk me but he continued.

But hey he's on "your team", so the truth doesnt matter, does it? LOL

#133 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 11:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"This (the poster, the thread, and the comments) is an absolute load of goat feces.
Rock on, Rcade.

#128 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD "

Actually it was clownshack who hijacked it (see post 46) and engaging in mega-stalking. But don't let the facts get in your way. LOL

#134 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 11:07 PM | Reply

"Don't want to be blamed for Sexual harassment?
Don't engage in it.

#126 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Women can and have falsely accused men of sexual harrassment and worse without any wrong doing on the man's part.

#135 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 11:15 PM | Reply

Yeah, we all had to read To Kill a Mockingbird in high school

#136 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-08-30 11:19 PM | Reply

"Don't want to be blamed for Sexual harassment?
Don't engage in it.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-08-30 08:28 PM | "

Thinks you can avoid getting hit by a car if you don't drive one.

#137 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 11:23 PM | Reply

"An extremely rare occurrence.
I'm rather confident in my abilities to avoid an accusation because I'm confident in my behavior being inoffensive.

POSTED BY JPW "

I'm sure that makes this guy feel better after 36 years in prison for a sex crime he didn't commit.

abcnews.go.com

#138 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 11:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

---------,

I don't fffking care what you have to say. You've proven yourself to be dishonest during discussion and have been caught lying repeatedly.

You're unable to say you made a mistake or were wrong.

Bray all you want, stupid. No one cares.

#139 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 11:44 PM | Reply

Thinks you can avoid getting hit by a car if you don't drive one.
#137 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Oh look, you can engage in discussion.

While I don't believe what you wrote, I do believe if you're trying to avoid getting hit by a car, you shouldn't play in the street.

Now. You're right. A car could hit you while you're on the side walk.

Avig points out this sometimes, albeit rarely, happens.

But I'm not going lock myself in my basement in order to avoid getting hit.

I'll continue living my life, cautious of cars.

#140 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-30 11:49 PM | Reply

"I don't fffking care what you have to say.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

I wish that translated to, "I'm through stalking you", but sadly we both know that's not true. I am far too deep under your skin (as you proved a few hours ago) for you to stop.

#141 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 11:50 PM | Reply

---------,

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Anthony Watts: "When You Resort To Name Calling, You've Lost The Argument"

www.realskeptic.com

#142 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 11:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

"I'll continue living my life, cautious of cars.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

That's not going to stop you from getting hit.

#143 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 12:11 AM | Reply

No one cares.
#139 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Except you. caring about every Goat post.

Like you're smitten.

#144 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-31 12:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

But I'm not going lock myself in my basement in order to avoid getting hit. ~ ClownShack

True, but hopefully you will look both ways before crossing the street ...

What most are implying here is "don't look", don't worry about it its a "rare occurrence" ....

#145 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 12:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

You only have to avoid women if you have no impulse control. Avoiding women in the workplace because of me too is like avoiding avoiding driving driving because police arrest speeders.

#146 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-08-31 09:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Jeebus Tapdancing Crow! What is wrong with you guys, that you are incapable of behaving in the workplace?
1. NO touching without explicit permission. Example, if a hand is offered you may shake it.
2. Apparently, it might not be obvious; but NO RAPING.
3. If you believe your spouse or significant other won't find your joke or jibe funny; you ought to STFU, because there's a good chance an innocent passerby might find it unfunny as well.

Any deviation may cause and find your idiot self in an exit interview with Human Resources.

#147 | Posted by john47 at 2019-08-31 09:43 AM | Reply

Funny observation.

The word "racist" and "racism" will appear repeatedly over the dumbest things.

If this was an article about whites avoiding blacks you would see the word over and over.

However, this article is implying men are avoiding women and I see the word "sexist" or "sexism" not once.

There are 146 posts and no is making that accusation.

There's a sociological statement being made there and should be pointed out.

Could it be people throw the word "racist" around too casually?

#148 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-08-31 09:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Keanu Reeves won't touch women when posing for pictures. He's mastered the art of the hand hover.

#149 | Posted by Pirate at 2019-08-31 10:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'm sure that makes this guy feel better after 36 years in prison for a sex crime he didn't commit.

abcnews.go.com

#138 | Posted by goatman

Please tell me you stretched before that reach...

#150 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-31 11:20 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

Anthony Watts: "When You Resort To Name Calling, You've Lost The Argument"

www.realskeptic.com

#142 | Posted by goatman

Awww look. Mr. Victim has a new shtick to spam.

#151 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-31 11:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

What most are implying here is "don't look", don't worry about it its a "rare occurrence" ....

#145 | Posted by AndreaMackris

It's rare because people look before they cross.

Because cars are ubiquitous in our society.

Are you saying a woman looking to make a false accusation is as common as a car on a road?

Because if your answer to the above is any version of "no" (don't bother saying more than that, your rationalizing won't work) then it's just another ridiculous false equivalency that you guys have become prone to in order to justify the absurdity of where your politics has taken you.

#152 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-31 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Could it be people throw the word "racist" around too casually?

#148 | Posted by BillJohnson

Could it be that you're just trying to squeeze water from a stone?

#153 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-31 11:24 AM | Reply

Women don't sue Chuck.

i1.wp.com

#154 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-31 11:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

"#142 | Posted by goatman
Awww look. Mr. Victim has a new shtick to spam.

#151 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-08-31 11:21 AM "

Aww look. One of my stalkers is back.

#155 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 01:39 PM | Reply

my stalkers is back.
#155 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Goat.

Your misuse of "stalker" is apparent to everyone but you, and possibly Null. Your overuse of "stalker" is appalling.

The novel concept of not replying seems lost on you.

#156 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-31 04:59 PM | Reply

this article is implying men are avoiding women and I see the word "sexist" or "sexism" not once.
-BillJohnson

Bill,

What's sexist about not sexually harassing?

#157 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-31 05:03 PM | Reply

True, but hopefully you will look both ways before crossing the street ...

Always have, always will. If I don't, it's my fault.

What most are implying here is "don't look", don't worry about it its a "rare occurrence" ....
#145 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Recently, I was working at a company where the owner was #metoo'd. Falsely. The person who accused him was unable to substantiate her accusation and the case went away.

Because of that all the employees at the company had to attend a sexual harassment/assault seminar. Basically, there have to be certain conditions met before actions can be construed to be either sexual harassment or sexual assault.

That's all to say, it's not as easy as stepping out into the road and getting hit by a car. It's more like seeing a car coming and jumping out in front of it.

#158 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-31 05:15 PM | Reply

The novel concept of not replying seems lost on you.

#156 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-08"

Replying to the topic is not stalking. Making a personal attack that has nothing to do with the topic, especially continuously, is stalking

I hope this helps

#159 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 05:18 PM | Reply

Clown,

Sexism doesn't have to involve anything physical.

Sheesh...I can't believe I had to say that.

#160 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-08-31 05:20 PM | Reply

Clown,

Or even anything remotely having anything to do with sexual harassment.

Just rejecting someone because of their sex would be sexism.

My point is apparently the posters on this site are much more willing to turn a blind eye to the systemic rejection of women.

#161 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-08-31 05:25 PM | Reply

Clown,

Again...there is a sociological statement being made here somewhere.

Is it that liberals are a little too vague with the use of the word "racist" and lack a clear definition of the word?

Or is it pointing out a conflicting misogynistic attitude that is buried deep in the political and cultural beliefs of liberals?

#162 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-08-31 05:54 PM | Reply

The person who accused him was unable to substantiate her accusation and the case went away.

How much torment does the person need to go through? and for what?

Did he lose his wife?

Where his kids asking if its true?

All because some women felt what? anger towards him? rejected?

Who knows and who cares .... look before crossing ....

It's more like seeing a car coming and jumping out in front of it.
#158 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Wrong ... as you just stated he was falsely accused, probably didn't nothing even remotely "untoward" ...

Yet was still hit by the BUS .... how can you not see that?

#163 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 06:00 PM | Reply

Being falsely accused of sexual harassment is also a downfall to the accused's career. Prior to having their names cleared, alleged harassers may quit or be required to resign, and they sometimes remain under suspicion even after the complaint is found to have been fabricated. The fact that a sexual harassment lawsuit has been filed against a company may be covered in the media, but when, years later, it is dismissed by the court before it gets to the jury stage because the case is without factual support, that information often is not made available to the public " perhaps forever leaving a bad mark on the employer in the eyes of its customers as well as employees.
businesswest.com

#164 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 06:08 PM | Reply

Sexual harassment claim throws bombshell into marriage
I do not know this student very well, but she is married with a baby, and I wonder why would she bring on such a charge when she has so much to lose (in terms of asking for future job recommendations, etc.) if my husband did not do anything wrong?

What's hurtful is that he did not mention meeting her for a late dinner (when this incident happened) until this accusation was formally filed. His explanation is that he met her for work and it was not anything out of the ordinary, but don't you think he should have mentioned her (out of town) visit, especially since I know her?

They have been exchanging email for years and meeting once a year at a conference, and my husband is willing to show me his emails.
www.chicagotribune.com

You wonder why Pence doesn't go to dinners with female co-workers.

I will add to this ... check out this graph ... with more women in the workforce you would think they would be meeting spouses at work, but notice the trend since the 90's.... this is my experience too, less and less co-workers are dating/meeting having affairs etc etc....
twitter.com

#165 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 06:17 PM | Reply

destroying the nuclear family has been one of the major goals of bolshevik revolutionaries since leon trotsky lev davidovich bronstein

#166 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-09-01 12:46 AM | Reply

So the conservatives arebolsheviks? Who knew? The nuclear family requires high enough wages for one person to support a family. The conservatives' fight to keep wages low is what has destroyed the nuclear family.

#167 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-09-01 04:00 AM | Reply

Businesswest is a small local magazine with 30,000 subscribers in western Massachusetts. Nothing they say can be blindly applied to the nation as a whole.

#168 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-09-01 04:03 AM | Reply

"Men Avoiding Women in Workplace"

Good. They're getting smarter.

"Being falsely accused of sexual harassment is also a downfall to the accused's career"

When I first came on active duty in the military, there was a Captain who had just completed pilot training. Many years before, as a senior at the AF Academy, he had hooked up with a freshman female cadet. During her senior year, this same female got in trouble and was going to be kicked out. So she claimed that the guy she had hooked up with several years earlier had actually raped her. He was immediately pulled from pilot training and placed in an administrative position. Eventually, the cadet admitted that it was consensual, but by that point the accused was well behind his peers in terms of career. That's not something that can be easily compensated for.

#169 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-09-01 07:36 AM | Reply

Unless I know them very well, I would avoid any sort of unnecessary interaction with the women I work with. I know of too many horror stories of dudes getting sniped because of something they said or did around the wrong person.

#170 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-09-01 07:39 AM | Reply

The only solution is the excessive use of cameras. Record all interactions.

Men's careers and lives have been ruined over false accusations.

That it's rare is beside the point. It does happen and I can't fault men who take steps to mitigate risk with so much on the line.

#171 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-01 10:49 AM | Reply

For the record, I don't avoid women at work and never have.

#172 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-01 10:50 AM | Reply

One observation: Clownshack is the one who hijacked the thread.

#173 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-01 10:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"In a post #MeToo survey, 19% of men said they were reluctant to hire attractive women."

Those are the ones you probably don't want to work for in the first place.

Survey results like this should be public knowledge for job seekers.

#174 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-01 10:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One observation: Clownshack is the one who hijacked the thread.
#173 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Fffk off m, Jeff. You little b*txh.

Goat hijacked the DR ever since he got back.

Though. I don't expect you to call him out on anything.

He's on your team and you'll either ignore his behavior or make excuses for him.

You're a partisan poster. Always have been. Always will be.

#175 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-01 01:47 PM | Reply

How much torment does the person need to go through? and for what?
Did he lose his wife?
Where his kids asking if its true?
All because some women felt what? anger towards him? rejected?

Despite what the girl said. There's a system in place set up to catch false accusers. It seems like it works just fine.

Point being. The number of false accusations is incredibly low and even in the case of a false accusation, there's a system in place designed to protect the accused.

Making a big deal out of it seems like something someone would do who is a borderline sexual harasser and who is worried their actions could be misinterpreted.

If your actions could be mistaken for sexual harassment or assault. Perhaps you should rethink your actions.

#176 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-01 01:58 PM | Reply

That it's rare is beside the point.
#171 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

They usually exaggerate and inflate rare events when it suits them; turning events into a national crisis.

When it doesn't, they dismiss it out of hand, as SnoofClown demonstrates.

#177 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-01 02:10 PM | Reply

"One observation: Clownshack is the one who hijacked the thread.
#173 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

You're a partisan poster. Always have been. Always will be.
#175 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

LOL It's hilarious hearing you, of all people the hyperpartisan, call someone a partisan poster. But even if what you say about Jeff is true, he is absolutely correct in that you are the one who hijacked the thread in post 46, then continued to stalk me after my dozens of requests for you to stop. Your deflection does not negate these facts.

Own your words and your posts and the fact you hijacked the thread, not I. Of course, you don't have the cojones to do so. Prove me wrong.

#178 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 08:12 PM | Reply

If your actions could be mistaken for sexual harassment or assault. Perhaps you should rethink your actions.
#176 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

By whom? Can two people have different views of what is and isn't sexual harassment?

This is why I avoid women the way I do.

Glad you agree with me finally.

#179 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-01 08:32 PM | Reply

It's hilarious hearing you, of all people the hyperpartisan...
#178 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

I stopped reading right there.

I don't care what a troll like you has to say. Your opinion of me is meaningless.

Everyone on the DR has called you out for your lies and bullshht.

#180 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-01 08:34 PM | Reply

Can two people have different views of what is and isn't sexual harassment?

No, which is why real sexual harassment or assault gets convicted and the false accusations get weeded out.

This is why I avoid women the way I do.

Freud would have something to say about that.

Glad you agree with me finally.
#179 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Okay.

#181 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-01 08:37 PM | Reply

"It's hilarious hearing you, of all people the hyperpartisan...
#178 | POSTED BY GOATMAN
I stopped reading right there. "

Of course you did. It takes balls to admit you hijacked the thread, and you have none. LOL

But the fact remains YOU, not I hijacked the thread. Post 46, if anyone is interested in what a lyihg lowlife clownshack is.

Grow a pair, for Christ sake and admit it. After all, we all have PGUP keys. Prove you can admkt you were wrong.

#182 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 08:43 PM | Reply

No, which is why real sexual harassment or assault gets convicted and the false accusations get weeded out.- clownshack

After the accusations have done their damage, their veracity is irrelevant.

Freud... You have no idea....
www.nybooks.com
en.m.wikipedia.org

#183 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-01 08:45 PM | Reply

I guess I'm not clear on why it's so hard not be an ------- toward women. Maybe one of you unrepentant -------- can clue me in.

#184 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-01 08:52 PM | Reply

I guess I'm not clear on why it's so hard not be an ------- toward women. Maybe one of you unrepentant -------- can clue me in.
#184 | POSTED BY CBOB

After 183 posts, and you still you don't have a clue ... no one can help you, and perhaps you are the -------.

#185 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-01 09:11 PM | Reply

#182 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Stalker, Begone.

Thanks.

#186 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-01 09:14 PM | Reply

After the accusations have done their damage, their veracity is irrelevant.

It all worked out fine for the owner of that company.

Freud... You have no idea....
#183 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

He'd have a field day with you.

#187 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-01 09:16 PM | Reply

"I guess I'm not clear on why it's so hard not be an ------- toward women. Maybe one of you unrepentant -------- can clue me in.

#184 | POSTED BY CBOB "

This man did nothing wrong towards women and spent 36 years in prison anyway..

Get it yet?

abcnews.go.com

#188 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 09:18 PM | Reply

"#182 | POSTED BY GOATMAN
Stalker, Begone.
Thanks.

#186 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Gladly. I made my point, loser.

#189 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 09:19 PM | Reply

#189 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Stalker, Begone.
Thanks.

#190 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-01 09:43 PM | Reply

After 183 posts, and you still you don't have a clue ... no one can help you, and perhaps you are the -------.

#185 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS AT 2019-09-01 09:11 PM | FLAG:

Look, 175 of the posts are from Goatman saying "Stalker Begin" or whatever the hell. Too boring to plow through all that. So maybe I missed something.

#191 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-01 09:45 PM | Reply

"Stalker, Begone.
Thanks.

#190 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Sure thing. I made my point about you hijacking this thread, and you are unable to refute it, so no need for me to hang around.

So have your last word and run off to lick your wounds.

Bye, now.

#192 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 09:45 PM | Reply

"Look, 175 of the posts are from Goatman saying "Stalker Begin" or whatever the hell. Too boring to plow through all that. So maybe I missed something.

#191 | POSTED BY CBOB "

Actually that is untrue. Does lying work for you in real life, because it sure doesn't here.

#193 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 09:47 PM | Reply

Shut up Goatman. God you're boring.

#194 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-01 09:48 PM | Reply

"Shut up Goatman. God you're boring.

#194 | POSTED BY CBOB "

At least I don't lie.

But hey Einstein, if you don't like my posts, plonk me. Duh.

#195 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 09:49 PM | Reply

Shut up Goatman. God you're boring.

POSTED BY CBOB AT 2019-09-01 09:48 PM | REPLY

He's as useless as teats on a boar hog.

#196 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-09-01 09:51 PM | Reply

Zzzzzz

#197 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-01 09:51 PM | Reply

"He's as useless as teats on a boar hog.

#196 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR "

Profound. But that one ran its course a century ago.

#198 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 09:52 PM | Reply

"He's as useless as teats on a boar hog.

#196 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR :

LOL Someone has to be pretty lame to have Laura come to their rescue.

#199 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 09:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Zzzzzz

POSTED BY CBOB "

Sleep tight! I hope next time you are called out for lying, you explain yourself and don't immediately fall asleep.

#200 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 09:57 PM | Reply

At least I don't lie.

Except that time you lied about Dan Rather falsifying documents. Go ahead and post that link again that doesn't say anything about him falsifying documents; that'll show em

#201 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-01 10:04 PM | Reply

"Except that time you lied about Dan Rather falsifying documents.
POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-09-01 10:04 PM "

LOL YOu sure got butt hurt over that one!

#202 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 10:05 PM | Reply

Just correcting your lie about not lying, liar.

#203 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-01 10:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Just correcting your lie about not lying, liar.

#203 | POSTED BY JOE "

Works for me. Anthing to stop your stalking. I have enough stalkers as it is. Take a number and get in line for christ sake.

#204 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 10:25 PM | Reply

Go ahead and post that link again that doesn't say anything about him falsifying documents; that'll show em
#201 | POSTED BY JOE

I asked him for a link once. He provided one that didn't prove his point. When I pointed that out, he refused to believe me. When I gave him a breakdown of what he gave me, he told me I was lying. When Danforth pointed his link didn't prove his point. He said he had provided three links that proved his point. When it was point out he only provided one link. He said the three links were on different threads.

Yea. Goatman is a liar. He's unable to admit when he's wrong. He plays the victim constantly. He trolls constantly. He details every thread he posts on.

He's a cancer.

#205 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-01 10:28 PM | Reply

Yea. Goatman is a liar. He's unable to admit when he's wrong. He plays the victim constantly. He trolls constantly. He details every thread he posts on.
He's a cancer.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

My stalker is back to hijack the thread again just like he did in post 46 but doesn't have the balls to admit. And he calls me a liar. LOL

Begone, stalker! This thread is not about me. As enamored as you are with me, please starta thread and vent there. Don't hijack this one again.

#206 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 10:34 PM | Reply

Blah, blah, blah...
#206 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

No one cares.

Begone, Stalker.

#207 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-01 10:57 PM | Reply

"No one cares.
Begone, Stalker.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Well, except you, obviously as evidenced by your post about me. LOL

But OK. I'm gone. I made my point and you can't refute it, so have your last word.

#208 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 11:03 PM | Reply

"The Mind of a Stalker"

www.psychologytoday.com

#209 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-01 11:04 PM | Reply

Dang...Goat seems to have taken over a discussion without saying anything. Quelle surprise!

#210 | Posted by john47 at 2019-09-02 09:43 AM | Reply

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