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The U.S. unemployment rate is so low that some cities and states have turned into "worker deserts" " places where companies can't find people to hire.

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My, but what a terrible position to be in, BUT, no worries as if a dem/prog becomes president within a few years, thereafter, we will once again have millions of people seeking work.

#1 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-08-30 03:02 PM | Reply

"My, but what a terrible position to be in, BUT, no worries as if a dem/prog becomes president within a few years, thereafter, we will once again have millions of people seeking work."

Pretending that the Great Recession happened When Obama was President instead of Bush. Pathetic lie.

Trump inherited a very good economy, job growth for the 7-1/2 revious years.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-30 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You know how you fix a worker desert? With green, lot's of green.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-30 04:11 PM | Reply

"You know how you fix a worker desert? With green, lot's of green.

#3 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2019-08-30 04:11 PM "

How does that fix it? I moves a worker from one job to another. It doesn't magically make a new worker.

#4 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 04:13 PM | Reply

"Pathetic lie.
Trump inherited a very good economy, job growth for the 7-1/2 revious years.

#2 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2019-08-30 03:39 PM "

Blaming Trump for part of the economy being bad but not giving him credit for the part that's good is also a pathetic lie.

#5 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 04:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

I'll bet the solution involves illegal immigrants with stolen identities.

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-30 04:16 PM | Reply

Danni, I'm sure you are watching closer than I, but it looks like Dorian is moving more southerly towards you. Unlike speaksoftly who hoped rightwingers would get harmed by it, I hope you are OK and have a good evacuation plan if necessary.

#7 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My, but what a terrible position to be in, BUT, no worries as if a dem/prog becomes president within a few years, thereafter, we will once again have millions of people seeking work.

#1 | Posted by MSgt

I love it how you idiots always strut around like you're economic geniuses yet your ideas never work and your POTUSes always leave the economy in tatters.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 07:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Blaming Trump for part of the economy being bad but not giving him credit for the part that's good is also a pathetic lie.

#5 | Posted by goatman

Yeah, he hasn't completely fcked it up yet. Good for him.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-30 07:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is good news for the people who are complaining they are stuck in dead end McDonald type jobs making minimum wage. Supply and demand.

#10 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 07:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

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I love it how you idiots always strut around like you're economic geniuses...
#8 | POSTED BY JPW

We're overflowing here with economic geniuses. military experts. lawyers. mouse torturers.

#11 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-30 09:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Thanks President Obama!!!!

#12 | Posted by zelkova at 2019-08-30 09:23 PM | Reply

How does that fix it? I moves a worker from one job to another. It doesn't magically make a new worker.

#4 | Posted by goatman

I think more money would bring lots of people back to work from the sidelines.

#13 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-08-30 09:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

How does that fix it? I moves a worker from one job to another. It doesn't magically make a new worker.

#4 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 04:13 PM

Maybe workers from outside the US? Oh wait.....

#14 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-08-30 10:43 PM | Reply

"Maybe workers from outside the US? Oh wait.....

#14 | POSTED BY SUNTZUMEOW "

No problem as long as they are not lawbreakers.

#15 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-30 11:11 PM | Reply

There's plenty of American workers. They don't want to retool their brain (education) or that don't want to move to Jerkwater, Iowa to get a fricking min wage job pumping ice cream into a plastic tub.

For those of you that blame Obama for the current recession,; he made it easy for you numb-nuts to get govt grants to pay for college and learn a new career. I took advantage of that back in the 90's and as recent as 8 years ago. If you didn't go to school, that's your problem, not mine. I got mine, get yours. but noooo... you want it easy like your pappy and grand pappy had it: work your ass off for 35 years and retire with a pension and social security. You didn't figure your company throwing you our your ass with 34 years under your belt and nothing to show for it but a wide load wife snoring on the couch and a double wide trailer in some park out in Bubblebuttf**ck, Kentucky.

#16 | Posted by Goose_Boils at 2019-08-31 03:20 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The economy runs on its own cycle.
Voters could install Mickey Mouse as president. It makes no difference.
Some presidents get lucky when times are good. Others, like Carter and Bush Sr., were not so lucky.

#17 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-31 06:07 AM | Reply

Fastest growing part of the U.K. work force; women over 50. You offer enough money you'll find you have workers.

"Yeah, he hasn't completely fcked it up yet. Good for him."

Exactly

#18 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-31 07:25 AM | Reply

"No problem as long as they are not lawbreakers."

The difficulty to immigrate to the U.S. legally is incredible if you come from any country that isn't considered first world. My son brought his wife over and it took many thousands of dollars paid to lawyers to get the job done. The accomplished it but if you didn't have a sponsor like him with access to lots of money it would be almost impossible.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-31 07:31 AM | Reply

Yeah! besides all the "jobs" they're bragging about are nickle and dime jobs.....where you need to hold

two or three jobs just to make ends meet......hey! ....but Trump is a blessing for the top 1% percenters...

giving them another yuuggeee tax cut isn't going to cut it anymore.....

#20 | Posted by saginawmi at 2019-08-31 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#16 | Posted by Goose_Boils

LOL welcome to the retort.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-31 11:26 AM | Reply

The economy runs on its own cycle.
Voters could install Mickey Mouse as president. It makes no difference.
Some presidents get lucky when times are good. Others, like Carter and Bush Sr., were not so lucky.

#17 | Posted by Ray

It's not quite that autonomous.

But a POTUS has less control than one would expect.

Reality is in between the extremes of what your average voter thinks, but to claim a POTUS's policy can't effect the economy is pretty naive.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-31 11:27 AM | Reply

I think more money would bring lots of people back to work from the sidelines.

#13 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2019-08-30 09:37 PM | REPLY |

More money ALLOWS people to go onto the sidelines. High workforce participation is a measure of a poor economy. It means one person can't earn enough to support a family by himself so multiple people in the family are working. In the perfect conservative world of man working while the woman stays home and raises kids the workforce participation rate would be below 50%.

#23 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-08-31 12:14 PM | Reply

More money ALLOWS people to go onto the sidelines. High workforce participation is a measure of a poor economy.

Depending on whether you're an extractor or an extractee.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-31 12:37 PM | Reply

to claim a POTUS's policy can't effect the economy is pretty naive.

That's not what I'm claiming. Presidential policies do affect the economy.

In terms of cycles, the last recession was ten years ago.
The next one is affected by forces not under government control.

The feds have been trying to eliminate business cycles since the Federal Reserve was created in 1914.
They can't.

#25 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-31 12:42 PM | Reply

" Presidential policies do affect the economy."
"The next one is affected by forces not under government control."

You contradicted yourself in one post. And how is the President not part of the government? In this case, Trump's unilateral choice of Chinese tariffs may very well trigger a recession. That's as close to "a force under government control" as it gets.

"The feds have been trying to eliminate business cycles since the Federal Reserve was created in 1914."

Nonsense. They've been trying to mitigate damage cycles can do by adjusting interest rates.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-08-31 01:09 PM | Reply

"More money ALLOWS people to go onto the sidelines. High workforce participation is a measure of a poor economy."

Oh, there you go again, using Actual Math on Republicans.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-08-31 01:12 PM | Reply

Nonsense. They've been trying to mitigate damage cycles can do by adjusting interest rates.
#26 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Which is having the opposite effect of amplifying the booms and busts.

I remember in the 60s when the Keynesians were bragging they eliminated business cycles. They've been forced to backtrack.

You contradicted yourself in one post. And how is the President not part of the government?

I neither said nor implied any such thing.

In this case, Trump's unilateral choice of Chinese tariffs may very well trigger a recession. That's as close to "a force under government control" as it gets.

If that's what the mainstream wants to believe, let them. Relative to the size of the US economy, tariffs on Chinese goods are insignificant.

There are other forces at work, like a strong demand for dollars throughout the world.

#28 | Posted by Ray at 2019-08-31 01:29 PM | Reply

More money ALLOWS people to go onto the sidelines. High workforce participation is a measure of a poor economy. It means one person can't earn enough to support a family by himself so multiple people in the family are working.

Even in the 50's 30% had dual incomes, regardless, this is old thinking ... catch up ....

People aren't getting married, they don't live as families ..
i0.wp.com

Oh, there you go again, using Actual Math on Republicans.
#27 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Ah another of your "observations" which have no basis in fact or reality.

#29 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 01:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"... current recession...

#16 | POSTED BY GOOSE_BOILS "

???

#30 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 01:51 PM | Reply

Look there are a LOT of factors here. Let's try listing just a few...

1. More young people are not working or are working only part time as older workers retire.
2. More people are figuring out they don't need it "all" and are not spending as much so they don't need as much. Enabling them do to things like have one parent in a family stay home or just not work so many hours. I mean if a parent is only going to make what they pay in daycare why work?
3. Companies have done it to themselves... They don't want to pay, they don't want to train, they don't want to provide for employees. etc...
4. Most new jobs are high tech in some fashion and let's face it - most people just are not capable. It can take years to develop the necessary skills making them "hard" and "high skill" jobs. And if a company is not willing to pay you well while they train you... This is something I have been preaching about for years.
5. Conservatives burying their head in the sand with home schooling where they don't have to really teach science and such and can teach bible studies.
6. Cutting immigration numbers.
7. Corporations have trained people to not be loyal and nobody wants to slave for peanuts. The average worker has lost buying power consistently over the last few decades.

Again there are bucket loads of reasons for the lack of workers. I could go on all day.

#31 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-08-31 02:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"another of your "observations" which have no basis in fact or reality."

It's the way the macro dials turn, you blithering idiot.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-08-31 03:06 PM | Reply

"Companies have done it to themselves... They don't want to pay, they don't want to train, they don't want to provide for employees. etc..."

Companies don't do it to themselves on purpose; the new tax code tells them its less valuable to reinvest in the company, either by labor/training or equipment, and cheaper today than yesterday to take money out. The most common phrase I've heard from folks in the tax business is "taxes are on sale for the next few years."

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-08-31 04:07 PM | Reply

Ah another of your "observations" which have no basis in fact or reality.

#29 | Posted by AndreaMackris

LOL your posting history is such a long roll of fantasy you might as well change your name to AndreaTolkien.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-31 08:46 PM | Reply

"More money ALLOWS people to go onto the sidelines. High workforce participation is a measure of a poor economy. It means one person can't earn enough to support a family by himself so multiple people in the family are working. In the perfect conservative world of man working while the woman stays home and raises kids the workforce participation rate would be below 50%."

One person CAN earn enough to support a family.

I do it every day.

#35 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-09-01 07:54 AM | Reply

" My son brought his wife over and it took many thousands of dollars paid to lawyers to get the job done. "

He's a sap, then. All the requirements are posted online, and there are lots of support groups and forums on the web to help navigate them. It's just a matter of ticking the boxes and the patience of going back and forth and following up with USCIS. I know, because I did it 10 years ago and didn't spend a dime on lawyers.

#36 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-09-01 10:17 AM | Reply

"It means one person can't earn enough to support a lifestyle they've chosen"

FT

I know what I've typed doesn't apply everywhere.

But it applies more than some here want to pretend.

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-01 10:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One person CAN earn enough to support a family.
I do it every day.

#35 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER AT 2019-09-01 07:54 AM | REPLY |

Anybody can become president but only one person can.

Low wages mean a large percentage of people have no way to raise a family on one job in the houehold. My grandfather built a house and raised his family working as a clothing salesman at Sears. Now that job wont cover the rent on a 2 bedroom apartment much less feed and clothe a family or pay for a house

#38 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-09-01 01:55 PM | Reply

"..a clothing salesman at Sears. Now that job wont cover the rent on a 2 bedroom apartment much less feed and clothe a family or pay for a house"

That's not a great example. The value of that job changed.....and for many reasons.

I'm in sales and I support a wife and 3 kids.

The workforce participation rate won't drop if jobs pay more. Yes, at any given time some jobs don't pay very well and both spouses have to work.

We are always going to be in a state of transition with many jobs. Things are going to change faster and faster requiring people to be constantly improving and seeking new skills. People have to get used to that.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-01 03:26 PM | Reply

#36 | Posted by sentinel

I won't disagree but it also depends on where she is from. I did it as well just after 9/11. We are talking about moving out of the US. Americans just don't get it. Life is for living, not working. We are seeing the benefits of having nationalized healthcare and other things. An ER visit on a trip to Portugal this year cost us ~$120 - no insurance in a PRIVATE hospital. Our deductible here is more.

#40 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-09-01 07:19 PM | Reply

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