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Saturday, August 31, 2019

There is an active shooting situation going on in the area between the cities of Midland and Odessa, Texas, according to Devin Sanchez, a spokesman for the City of Odessa. There are 10 confirmed injuries, possibly up to 20 injured, Sanchez said. There is one person confirmed dead, he said. ... Sanchez said there is a person in a gold Toyota driving around shopping centers and shooting people from his vehicle.

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I'm thinking prayers are in order.

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-08-31 06:14 PM | Reply

I'll go with 18-25 y/o white guy with a Glock.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-08-31 06:16 PM | Reply

Looks like the got the one in the mailtruck
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#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 06:25 PM | Reply

Another angle
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#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 06:30 PM | Reply

Andrea you should not post videos like that without some sort of warning.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-31 06:32 PM | Reply

Everyone calm down, i'm sure these shooters are part of a well-regulated militia. They wouldn't just shoot people indiscriminately; i'm sure this is part of some well-regulated military activity.

#6 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-31 06:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not sure about this video ... showing suspect being put in police vehicle.
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#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 06:38 PM | Reply

Andrea you should not post videos like that without some sort of warning.

Warning of what ? There is little to no detail, only sounds.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 06:39 PM | Reply

The fact that it has to be explained to you says a lot about your character.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-31 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

These keep happening in Texas. It must be because of all the gun control down there ..... you know .... like Chicago.

#10 | Posted by anton at 2019-08-31 06:58 PM | Reply

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Has the bloated------------ scheduled a thumbs up photo op yet?

#11 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2019-08-31 07:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Jesus, this is horrible, how can people just decide to go out and try to make a mass casualty event without any remorse.

#12 | Posted by Badcat at 2019-08-31 07:14 PM | Reply

He stole a mail truck?

Well it's a federal offense now.

If he doesn't get shot in the face he's going to spend the rest of his life getting love letters from the unabomber in the cell next door.

#13 | Posted by Tor at 2019-08-31 07:23 PM | Reply

The NRA assured us that an armed society is a polite society. Texas is the MOST armed state in the union and these things keep happening there, hmmm. And how is it that none of the weekend Rambos has brought these shooters down with their personal carry guns? Could it be that the Reich and the NRA have been WRONG this whole time and the problem really is EASY ACCESS TO FIREARMS?

#14 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2019-08-31 07:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Been away for a few days.

Doesn't look like anything's changed around here, or in America.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-08-31 07:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The shooter is dead. White male in his 30s.

#16 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-08-31 07:30 PM | Reply

Missed it by 5 years.

#17 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-08-31 07:34 PM | Reply

More dead people. More guns sold. repeat.

#18 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-31 07:34 PM | Reply

you know .... like Chicago.

Chicago doesn't have much by way of gun control these days, thanks to rightwing advocacy groups and their lawyers. Which is why i always laugh when i see rightwingers hold up shootings in Chicago as examples that gun control doesn't work. Most of their gun control regime was struck down years ago in lawsuits brought by the same morons who claim the (non-existent) regime isn't working.

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-31 07:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

5 dead 21 injured CNN

These nutjobs are the ones who voted Trump in.And we still want to play fair with them...

#20 | Posted by KillerKarlKrupt at 2019-08-31 07:48 PM | Reply

In a tweet, US President Donald Trump said he was being kept informed about the shootings in Texas.

donald Strong.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-08-31 07:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

My bet is shooter is White, male, in his 30s, former army, history of problems with women, has been in a jail or facility before, loves Trump, hates Christianity.

#22 | Posted by Tor at 2019-08-31 07:49 PM | Reply

"These keep happening in Texas. It must be because of all the gun control down there ..... you know .... like Chicago.

POSTED BY ANTON "

???

The vast majority of mass shootings are outside of Texas. Count 'em. It's hard to take people seriously when they prove they don't know what they are talking about .

#23 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 07:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

""These keep happening in Texas. It must be because of all the gun control down there ..... you know .... like Chicago.

POSTED BY ANTON "

There were 561 homicides in the city of Chicago in 2018. That's several times as many people killed tn mass murders in the entire history of Texas.

www.foxnews.com

#24 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 08:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My thoughts and prayers are with the people of (insert city, school, church, concert venue, event here) for this horrific act of evil and to the families of those impacted by this tragedy.

#25 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-08-31 08:03 PM | Reply

So is one shooter dead and one in custody?

#26 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-31 08:08 PM | Reply

Cut and paste discussion about the garlic festival El Paso and Ohio shootings

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-08-31 08:21 PM | Reply

#24 Thank conservatives for suing to overturn Chicago's gun control laws.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-31 08:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

:#24 Thank conservatives for suing to overturn Chicago's gun control laws.

#28 | POSTED BY JOE "

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Chicago doesn't have anything to do with this.

#29 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 08:38 PM | Reply

Oh hum Thought and prayers because according to Conservatives that's all they are worth.

#30 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-31 08:44 PM | Reply

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Chicago doesn't have anything to do with this.

#29 | Posted by goatman

Then why did you feel the need to talk about how many homicides Chicago had?

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2019-08-31 08:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Anton brought it up in #10. Goat was responding.

Your GDS rash was triggered. Now inflamed.

#32 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-31 08:53 PM | Reply

The Stupendous Yappi predicts this thread will be recycled arguments about gun control and nothing about bigger-picture cultural changes.

#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-08-31 08:59 PM | Reply

"Then why did you feel the need to talk about how many homicides Chicago had?

#31 | POSTED BY JPW"

Because Anton brought it up.

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 09:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Then why did you feel the need to talk about how many homicides Chicago had?

#31 | POSTED BY JPW "

So did Joe to whom I was responding.

#35 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 09:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Where were all of the "good guys" with guns?
According to the ---------- Rambo wannabe's this guy should have been taken out as soon as he flashed iron.

Another short di**ed Trump supporting domestic terrorist strikes again!

#36 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-08-31 09:29 PM | Reply

More proof that a more than adequetly armed population like Midland and Odessa prevents these kinds of mass shootings.... oh, wait. Not so much.

- nothing about bigger-picture cultural changes.

Yeah! Like more kids in cages. That always helps.

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2019-08-31 09:34 PM | Reply

Where were all of the "good guys" with guns?
According to the ---------- Rambo wannabe's this guy should have been taken out as soon as he flashed iron.

POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON "

Good point. I guess all the hand wringing and boo-hooing the left does about concealed carry threats has no basis.

Thanks for making that point.

#38 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 09:35 PM | Reply

Because Anton brought it up.

So you responded but then nobody else is allowed to react to your response to an off topic post?

#39 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-31 09:48 PM | Reply

A 17 month old baby was shot in the face.

Conservatives think their hobby is worth this sort of atrocity.

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-31 09:49 PM | Reply

#39 | POSTED BY JOE

What a mangled summary, counselor.

#41 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-08-31 09:53 PM | Reply

"So you responded but then nobody else is allowed to react to your response to an off topic post?

#39 | POSTED BY JOE"

???

WHo said no one else is allowed to react? Not I. JPW asked why I brought up Chicago. I, very non-confrontationallu answered why. You then got all huffy and implied I reacted in a manner that I did not.

GDS runs deep in the DR.

#42 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 10:03 PM | Reply

WHo said no one else is allowed to react?

10: Anton posts about Chicago
24: You post about Chicago
28: I respond to you
29: Instead of addressing the substance you say Chicago has nothing to do with this

Retardation runs deep

#43 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-31 10:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"29: Instead of addressing the substance you say Chicago has nothing to do with this

Retardation runs deep

POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-08-31 10:10 PM "

And I was correct. Chicago has nothing to do with this

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By, now Joe!

#44 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-31 10:17 PM | Reply

Baltimore!

NSFW

Suspect Killed In Baltimore Police-Involved Shooting
Police have been looking for Suspect since Tuesday, when he allegedly tried to strike 1 officer with a silver SUV & then fired at another officer.
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#45 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-08-31 10:31 PM | Reply

#36 | Posted by aborted_monson This conclusion made before anyone even knows the dead perpetrator's name, much less his motives or source of his insanity. Maybe you are correct, but as a rule, you know less than nothing, again.

#46 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-08-31 10:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

GDS runs deep in the DR.

#42 | POSTED BY SporkGoat

DFS (Dumb ---- Syndrome) runs deep with you and your kind.

#47 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-09-01 01:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#47 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON

Explaining an acronym ... is like explaining a joke ....

#48 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-01 11:11 AM | Reply

That 17 month old girl caught a round in the face for our freedom.

~ The GOP ~

#49 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-09-01 12:37 PM | Reply

Mass murder does not require a gun, in case y'all forget, some who are intent on such behavior have used trucks, bombs and air planes. Two of the most common things about these creatures are Islam or the use of psychotropic drugs. I avoid both.

#50 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-01 01:53 PM | Reply

"Mass murder does not require a gun"

True, but thanks to the Second Amendment, most mass murderers use guns.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-01 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#51 | Posted by snoofy So, how many of these mass murders used psychotropic drugs? The numbers are astonishing. Why not do a little research and get informed. As I remember from my childhood, almost everyone I knew had firearms in their home. The first mass shooting beyond the guy in the tower at UT, who had a large brain tumor was after I turned 35.

#52 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-01 02:04 PM | Reply

"So, how many of these mass murders used psychotropic drugs?"

To kill people?
Zero.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-01 03:02 PM | Reply

Nearly all the people who own guns didn't use their guns to kill anyone today.

Nearly all the people who own guns and took psychotropic drugs didn't use their guns to kill anyone today.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-01 03:05 PM | Reply

It's not the video games.
It's not the psychotropic drugs.

They have video games throughout the rest of the modern world.
They have psychotropic games throughout the rest of the modern world.

What don't they have throughout the rest of the modern world?
The right to keep and bear arms.

Unless you're dumb, you are just living in denial.
Both make you look like a senile old man.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-01 03:23 PM | Reply

Since making laws is so effective in dealing with/handling citizens' behavior, let's just pass a law making it illegal to murder or attempt to murder people, and that will solve the problem; oh, wait.....

#56 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-09-01 03:31 PM | Reply

Good point. I guess all the hand wringing and boo-hooing the left does about concealed carry threats has no basis.

Thanks for making that point.

#38 | Posted by goatman

Are you being deliberately stupid with that post? This all started with contact with POLICE.

#57 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-09-01 03:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Are you being deliberately stupid with that post?"

Just that one?
"We're gonna need a bigger boat."

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-01 03:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

"Since making laws is so effective in dealing with/handling citizens' behavior"

Well, something sure is is effective at the rest of the modern world having much lower rates of gun violence than America.
You can't figure out what it is, can you?
LOL!!!

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-01 03:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#55 | Posted by snoofy They have psychotropic games throughout the rest of the modern world. Sort of, but the amount and numbers proportionally of those using psychotropic drugs is over five times that of other developed nations.

#60 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-01 04:33 PM | Reply

The shooter has been identified as Seth Ator, 36. His family has deep roots in Texas. He had a fairly short criminal record, the most serious charge being criminal trespassing, according to the Heavy.

#61 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-01 04:39 PM | Reply

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#62 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-01 04:41 PM | Reply

"but the amount and numbers proportionally of those using psychotropic drugs is over five times that of other developed nations."

So what?
Revoke Second Amendment rights of people on psychotropic drugs?
Ban psychotropic drugs?

You think you've found the problem.
What's the solution?
???

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-01 05:29 PM | Reply

#63 | Posted by snoofy Maybe better monitoring and self reporting of those who are prescribed these drugs? Myself, I watched too many of soldiers who were given this brain candy off themselves, we call it a pill crash. It is actually worse the younger the individual is. Look, maybe Americans just take too many drugs. Psychotropic drugs are hypnotics and they are keenly addictive. Look at the warnings in your handy PDR, homicidal imaginings and suicidal impulses are listed as a side effects on something as common as Xanax.
Woe to the fool that attempts to disarm Americans. Dream on, it should never happen. The attempt will be answered with open rebellion. Like targeted assassinations for those who try to enact such action. The one thing being alive for over 60 years has taught me, politicians are spineless cowards much more in love with privilege and position than service or the good of their consultants.

#64 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-01 10:10 PM | Reply

Woe to the fool that attempts to disarm Americans. Dream on, it should never happen. The attempt will be answered with open rebellion. Like targeted assassinations for those who try to enact such action.

Intervention on aisle 3!

#65 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-09-01 10:13 PM | Reply

#65 | Posted by REDIAL Would you bet your life that what I said isn't true? Repeal the 2nd and see.

#66 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-01 11:04 PM | Reply

I'm pretty sure donald has you outgunned about a million to one.

#67 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-09-01 11:35 PM | Reply

Picture of the 17 month old girl who got shot in the face because American alpha males need to have AR 15s to boost their manhood:

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#68 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-09-01 11:55 PM | Reply

BTW, "alpha males" should be in quotes. Take, for example, that NRA-supporting "alpha male" Mitch McConnell.

#69 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-09-02 12:01 AM | Reply

People that choose to live in Texas knew what they signed up for.

#70 | Posted by bored at 2019-09-02 12:09 AM | Reply

Just to show how well prohibitions of certain types of guns work in this country, when was the last time we had a mass shooting with a fully automatic weapon? Fully automatic rifles or machine guns are heavily regulated in this country which means they don't get used in mass shootings. We could do the same with AR-style and other semi-auto rifles and pistol magazines larger than 10 rounds. Anything less is a betrayal of voters and our youth at the hands of the NRA.

#71 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2019-09-02 12:11 AM | Reply

Such senseless killings.

#72 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-02 12:25 AM | Reply

"#63 | Posted by snoofy Maybe better monitoring and self reporting of those who are prescribed these drugs?"

You can't be serious.
There's a law that forbids VA doctors from asking soldiers if they have guns.
You cheer for it.
It defends your rights against gun-grabbing liberal doctors.

"The attempt will be answered with open rebellion. Like targeted assassinations for those who try to enact such action."

By whom? Responsible gun owners?

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-02 01:30 AM | Reply

Was the shooting of a bunch of Mexicans in Wal-Mart, was that open rebellion against immigration, targeted assassination of immigrants?

Is what you're predicting already happening, just not in the context of fighting against gun grabbers, but in fighting against other undesirable people?

Like the San Bernadino shootings, by crazed Muslims, was that the sort of open rebellion, targeted assassination you're talking about? Or Pulse nightclub, or Columbine?

Isn't the rebellion already happening, Docnjo?

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-02 01:35 AM | Reply

I saw this posted on Twitter today:

"Say I am in a church in Texas (humor me) .. a guy walks in with his big gun. How do I know if he is a bad guy with a gun or fancies himself a good guy with a gun? Do I have to wait until he starts shooting - or not? Do I dive under the pews or wait for the first body to fall?"

Source: twitter.com

Is there a good argument against this point of view?

Why should I trust the judgment of an armed stranger not to shoot me or my family, whether through anger, mental illness or carelessness?

#75 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-02 05:11 PM | Reply

"Say I am in a church in Texas (humor me) .. a guy walks in with his big gun. How do I know if he is a bad guy with a gun or fancies himself a good guy with a gun? Do I have to wait until he starts shooting - or not? Do I dive under the pews or wait for the first body to fall?"

What I find most interesting about the "good guy with a gun" approach is the good guys are almost always the losers.

Odessa: 7 dead good guys, one dead bad guy.
Pulse: 49 to 1
Las Vegas: 50+ to 1

They're okay with losing 7 to 1 in Odessa, 26 to 1 in Newtown, 17 to 1 in Parkland, and 8 to 1 in Charleston.

I think they like losing.

The good guys who get killed, those are by definition acceptable losses, if your solution to bad guys with guns is good guys with guns.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-02 05:19 PM | Reply

"Why should I trust the judgment of an armed stranger not to shoot me or my family, whether through anger, mental illness or carelessness?"

There's really just one reason:
Because that's the deal the Second Amendment dictates.

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-02 05:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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