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Monday, September 02, 2019

A massive rescue operation was launched early Monday morning in response to reports of dozens of people in distress on board a boat that possibly caught fire off the coast of Ventura County, authorities said.

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BREAKING: 34 people killed after boat catches fire off California's Santa Cruz Island: officials

#1 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-09-02 09:14 AM | Reply

Police: currently, we are not investigating Hillary Clinton as a prime suspect in this disaster.

#2 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-09-02 11:40 AM | Reply

Did see this ... apologies .. posted update....
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#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-02 11:43 AM | Reply

#3 | POSTED BYANDREAMACKRIS

Why aren't you and your boat (the USS Atlas Shrugged) out there saving these people?

Be an American for once in your life.

Start channeling Bonnie Tyler ... youtu.be

C'mon, be a hero!

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-02 06:54 PM | Reply

We must ban boats to [save lives] prevent this from ever happening in the future!

#5 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-09-02 07:01 PM | Reply

Or we could register boats, require owners/operators to receive training and require inspections like sane people.

#6 | Posted by bored at 2019-09-02 07:46 PM | Reply

Or we could register boats, require owners/operators to receive training and require inspections like sane people.

ABC Evening News reported that one of the 5 surviving crew talked to the Coast Guard and told them the door to the lower bunks was locked. Which means they probably woke up during the fire but could not get out of the lower part of the boat.

It had a diesel engine which means just any part of the boat of the boat is hot... it will re-ignite no matter how much water was poured on it.

More than likely this was a bilge fire. While mechanics always put oil into the engine... they never clean out the oil that drips from it into the bilge and it does accumulates till there is a spark or hot metal like an oil pan touches it.

Then up she goes...

#7 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-02 08:22 PM | Reply

Yeah, see because boats are designed to kill more people faster.... just like military weapons.

The stupid is strong in that one.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2019-09-02 08:23 PM | Reply

Yeah, see because boats are designed to kill more people faster.... just like military weapons.

Well the only door was locked... the Onan Genset was on to provide lights, AC and power to the watermaker... and then there is the fact that it's a dive boat with about 40 to 50 steel tanks each pressurized to 3000lbs/sqin and when the valves get caught in a fire, they literally go up like bombs... so yea, no one was going back on board to save them....

...see because boats are designed to kill more people faster...

Titanic killed about 1503 in about 2 1/2 hours... that fast enough for you corko?....

#9 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-02 09:11 PM | Reply

We must ban boats to [save lives] prevent this from ever happening in the future!

What they are proposing is better regulation to makes boats safer.

A few dozen people will die in a single tragedy and we'll do something about it -- unless that tragedy happens to involve guns.

The only person talking about banning all guns is in the hysterical rhetoric of ConservaDunce's straw men.

I hope someday we can have an honest conversation about gun violence in this country but your post reminds me it's not that time.

#10 | Posted by zarnon at 2019-09-02 09:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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If the door to the lower bunks was locked from the outside, that is a big deal. It just seems unlikely. Why would they lock their guests into the bunk area?

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-09-02 09:20 PM | Reply

#9

If the purpose of the design being killing and not floating is too difficult a concept for you to understand, just say so.

Everyone here will understand, considering the source.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2019-09-02 09:24 PM | Reply

Boating is a good ocean or lake view spoiled.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-02 09:30 PM | Reply

This is what happens if you leave shore without giving your boat a proper raking.

~ Dolt 45 ~

#14 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-09-02 09:35 PM | Reply

If the door to the lower bunks was locked from the outside, that is a big deal. It just seems unlikely. Why would they lock their guests into the bunk area?

I can only think of unauthorized night dives or someone tampering with the regulators or tank valves trying to injure someone. Or to try and grab stuff from the ships safe... don't know... that's for the Coast Guard to find out... my question is if it was locked... why someone didn't unlock it before he jumped overboard?... the only ones that made it, so far, was the crew who slept in the open. Everyone else got cooked like a fish stick.

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#15 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-02 09:46 PM | Reply

Man, around 3:15 a.m.: "Mayday, mayday, mayday! ... Conception ... north side of Santa Cruz." (He's broken up by static.)

Coast Guard Sector Los Angeles-Long Beach dispatcher asks position and number of people on board.

Man: "I can't breathe." ... (garbled)

USCG Dispatcher: "You have 29 persons on board and you can't breathe? What is your current GPS position?"

A frantic man can be heard:

"Vessel Conception! Vessel Conception! Vessel Conception!" ...

USCG Dispatch: "Your vessel is on fire? Is that correct? ... Are you on board the Conception?"

Man: "Roger, there's 33 people that's on board the vessel that's on fire. They can't get off."

USCG Dispatch: "Roger, are they locked inside the boat?

USCG Dispatch: "Roger, can you get back on board and unlock the boat, unlock the door so they can get off?"

USCG Dispatch: "Roger, you don't have any firefighting gear, no fire extinguishers or anything?"

USCG Dispatch: "Roger, is this the captain of the Conception?"

Man: "Roger"

USCG Dispatch: "Was that all the crew that jumped off?"

Man: "Roger"

USCG Dispatch: "Is the vessel fully engulfed now?"

Man: "Roger, and there's no escape hatch for any of the people on board."

#16 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-03 07:08 AM | Reply

From the above, it's pretty apparent that this guy has just lost his USCG Captain's License...

How long does it take to get a captains license?

You must have at least 360 days of experience onboard a boat during the period of time since your 15th birthday. At least 90 days of that period need to be within the last three years with as little as four hours being considered a day. If you choose to take a course before you apply, the length of the course will determine when you are ready to submit the application.

How much does a charter boat captain make per year?

A charter captain can work for a broad range of businesses including everything from a cruise company to a fishing business and lots of other jobs in-between. On average, a boat captain makes between $56,000 and $84,000 annually. A sailboat captain just starting out with a yacht cruise company might expect to make anywhere from $65,000 to more than $200,000 annually depending on the company and the size of the yacht.

How much does a boat captain license cost?

The price for a captains license course is between $600 and $800, depending on where you take it. Licensing fees to the Coast Guard run at around $255. If you require a boat rental to obtain the required sea hours, your costs will be significantly higher.

#17 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-03 07:31 AM | Reply

We must ban boats to [save lives] prevent this from ever happening in the future!

#5 | POSTED BY MSGT

Yes, by all means. Just the other a boat came up to me and stole all my money as I ---- in my pants.

#18 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2019-09-03 11:20 AM | Reply

How is it even legal to operate a boat that doesn't have an escape hatch for invitees?

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-03 11:41 AM | Reply

An old college buddy of mine (the ex-CIA guy) is a diver and goes on at least one dive trip somewhere around world each year. He said that years ago, he booked a dive trip on this same boat out in California. He said he would never do it again, because, as he described it, it was a disaster waiting to happen.

As you can see from the diagram below, the 'guest' quarters was a single, large cabin which slept up to 46 people (this could have been an even bigger disaster). There was only a single narrow stairway and a single hatch to get out of the cabin. The reason that the crew members all survived is because they slept on the lounge furniture on deck.

res.cloudinary.com

Note that I'm NOT a diver. Heck, swimming to me is staying alive while I'm in the water ;-)

Anyway, I figured this background info might help explain why this disaster is turning out the way that it is, at least in terms of why the death toll was so high.

OCU

#20 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-09-03 03:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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