Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, September 03, 2019

President Donald Trump's mental health was an issue of concern online after he continued to spread the lie that Hurricane Dorian threatened Alabama.

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#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-09-02 10:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

Donny Dimwit was sitting in the corner wearing a dunce cap during geography class.

#2 | Posted by TenMile at 2019-09-03 09:42 AM | Reply

...he continued to spread the lie...

We've been told time and time again that Trump doesn't lie. He was just exaggerating, using hyperbole or something.

#3 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-09-03 09:52 AM | Reply

Trump knows more about Hurricanes and their predicted routes than anybody.

Believe me...sigh.

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-09-03 10:09 AM | Reply

The NWS only cares about the correct information being disseminated. They don't care about "proving Trump wrong" or any sort of BS like that.

So, what Trump SHOULD have done, is just retweet the statement from the NWS so ensure his followers had the correct information. He could have even put some sort of message in it if he still felt the need to play it off and make it look like he was in charge ("Looks like Alabama will be fine, but Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina - as well as Florida - still look to be within its crosshairs").

But, Republicans are paranoid little snowflakes who see "TDS" in anything that might possibly be seen as in defiance of their snowflake in chief (including FACTS that "defy" him), so of course he had to double down on it and make it all about him. Instead of admitting he made a mistake and moving forward concentrating on the VERY REAL danger that Dorian poses.

Its not surprising, though. Stupid people are insecure about their intelligence. So are unwilling to admit to ANY mistake. As well as feeling the need to tell people how "intelligent" they really are ("very stable genius"). But, that in itself is fine. I don't fault people for their lack of intelligence.

I do, though, fault the idiots who decided that a person like this should lead their party and be President of the United States. Its not lack of intelligence, it is just terrible decision making. There is no excuse for that.

#5 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 10:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Who in the USA has been hit by the hurricane? DIMWIT

#6 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-09-03 10:36 AM | Reply

Who in the USA has been hit by the hurricane? DIMWIT

#6 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Did Trump even think that the hurricane had already hit the US?

Wouldn't surprise me, but you would think his handlers would be able to get at least that much across to him.

And you really don't have to start calling Trump names in capital letters (shouting). Settle down. Don't let yourself get caught up in your TDS.

#7 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 10:48 AM | Reply

During a time of a very significant weather event, with millions of people in the US under mandatory evacuations ( abcnews.go.com ), Pres Trump is giving out incorrect information.


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-03 10:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Pres Trump is giving out incorrect information.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-03 10:59 AM | Reply

The man refuses to be wrong no matter how wrong he is.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-03 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He's been so busy golfing that he probably hasn't paid attention to his briefings which apparently have been delivered to him in his golf cart. He took the Admiral with him to his golf club.

#10 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2019-09-03 11:18 AM | Reply

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- The man refuses to be wrong no matter how wrong he is.

Which is why his supporters love him so; they have so much in common.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2019-09-03 11:18 AM | Reply

11AM (EDT) report: 110mph sustained winds, moving northwest at 2mph.

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-03 11:22 AM | Reply

Looks like both the NWS AND Trump were completely wrong, yet the NWS is trying to do exactly what Trump did by deflecting. And then people just go after Trump. Granted, he is much more than the NWS to our country but still, that kind of hypocrisy is a big problem to our country these days. Both were wrong, now they are just arguing over who is more wrong.

#13 | Posted by humtake at 2019-09-03 11:24 AM | Reply

Both were wrong, now they are just arguing over who is more wrong.

#13 | Posted by humtake

I'm arguing nothing.

I'm saying Trump is an ignorant loud-mouth who won't admit a mistake.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-03 11:29 AM | Reply

that kind of hypocrisy is a big problem to our country these days.

#13 | Posted by humtake at 2019-09-03 11:24 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

I've never seen a Trumpite care about hypocrisy other than to get Trump off a hook.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-03 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Both were wrong

The point is that one was a forecast based on instrumentation and modeling data; the other was a deranged tweet from a fat moron suffering from tertiary syphillis.

Trump has no business contradicting the National Weather Service. The fact that computer models (which constanty change) turned out to be incorrect at some point in time does not absolve Trump from disseminating incorrect information based on NOTHING.

#16 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-03 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

@#13 ... Looks like both the NWS AND Trump were completely wrong, yet the NWS is trying to do exactly what Trump did by deflecting. ...

If you've been following the NWS forecasts, you'd notice that they assign a probability to those forecasts. Unfortunately, many often ignore those probabilities (the "cone of uncertainty").

I've been watching the Dorian forecasts since it became a tropical storm, and as the storm progressed the forecasts for the upcoming three days have been quite good.

To describe them as "completely wrong" is not correct.

#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-03 11:53 AM | Reply

Looks like both the NWS AND Trump were completely wrong, yet the NWS is trying to do exactly what Trump did by deflecting.

The NWS was not "completely wrong". While the storm has slowed to a crawl is still on the exact path predicted.

Why doesn't your hero Humpy just nuke the thing? You know he wants to!

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-09-03 11:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Granted, he is much more than the NWS to our country but still..."

You are a joke.

Not granted and not even close to reality.

The NWS as a group outclasses Humpy Trumpy the VJ grabber and unstable racist by light years.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-09-03 12:13 PM | Reply

The NWS would not tolerant Humpy's racist deviant antisocial behavior.

Humpy Trumpy couldn't even qualify for a single job at the NWS.

He wouldn't even qualify as a janitor in an NWS facility.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-09-03 12:17 PM | Reply

Looks like both the NWS AND Trump were completely wrong

#13 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

The problem wasn't that Trump was wrong. Yeah... some people on the internet would have made fun of him, but that happens regardless. It isn't a big deal for people who are not delicate little snowflakes.

The problem is that once Trump was SHOWN to be wrong, instead of admitting it and trying to do his part to make sure that the correct information was out there (you know... to people who might be evacuating from a potentially catastrophic hurricane), he got all pissy and defensive and claimed it was was some big "Fake News" conspiracy to "demean and belittle" him.

Do you see the NWS getting all pissy and defensive over Trump contradicting them?

No? Well, that is because one of them is acting like an adult, realizing that this is about the emergency and getting information to people and is not about their petty little ego. The other is acting like a Republican and being a paranoid little snowflake. I will leave it to you to figure out which is which (though you apparently think his behavior is justified, so I would not be surprised if you CAN'T figure it out).

#21 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

@#21 ... The problem is that once Trump was SHOWN to be wrong, instead of admitting it and trying to do his part to make sure that the correct information was out there (you know... to people who might be evacuating from a potentially catastrophic hurricane), he got all pissy and defensive and claimed it was was some big "Fake News" conspiracy to "demean and belittle" him. ...

Worth repeating.

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-03 01:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Alabama better be ready to get nuked.. Trump must prove himself right... run

#23 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-09-03 01:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump insists on tweeting that the NWS / NHC had placed Alabama in the zone of risk from Dorian. This is simply false. Alabama was never at risk.

I wonder if he thinks the Bahamas are part of Alabama. Bama, Bahamas, what's the difference? Only lightweight reporters from the phony media pay attention to geography.

#24 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-03 02:40 PM | Reply

Is anyone else not shocked that a Narcissist would take umbrage to someone pointing out his mistake?

#25 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-03 03:01 PM | Reply

@#25 ... Is anyone else not shocked that a Narcissist ...

Is anyone else not shocked that Pres Trump is so clueless that he would wander into a potentially disastrous weather event, and tweet out incorrect information?

What other scenarios does he find himself in where he has to make significant decisions, and does so based upon totally incorrect information that he apparently makes up as he goes along....

One-on-one with Pres Putin comes to mind.

#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-03 03:47 PM | Reply

Is anyone else not shocked that Republicans would choose a narcissist to represent them and to lead their party?

He was THE BEST that conservatives had to offer.

#27 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 04:27 PM | Reply

In the scheme of things, this is not an enormous scandal. Trump commits gaffes on all days that end in "y," so this is just one of many.

But this is still important because the president needs to be trusted when he speaks. His reaction to this shows weakness of character and illustrates why nothing he says can be taken at face value.

The words of the president will always matter, and will always be carefully critiqued, especially in times of crisis. Remember when Obama caught grief when he said the police officer "acted stupidly" in arresting a black man trying to get into his own house in Cambridge, Massachusetts 10 years ago. Some might argue that Obama was correct in his assessment of the officer's actions. But he's the president, and he should have been more diplomatic than that.

The role of president carries enormous responsibility, and a lot of that responsibility is to kind of be the "truthteller-in-chief," to keep everyone calm, to be above the fray, to be the steady hand, to be the parent who leads us through difficulties with grace, wisdom, supportiveness, and a commitment to truth.

It shows weakness, not strength, to double down in a situation where you are caught saying something that clearly is untrue. But what does Trump do? He blames the "phony media" again and calls one of the reporters "lightweight" for pointing out the truth. This is not the actions of a leader.

#28 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-03 04:37 PM | Reply

He was THE BEST that conservatives had to offer.

Now do Hillary Clinton!

#29 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-03 04:46 PM | Reply

#28 | POSTED BY CBOB

Imagine how difficult it was for Trump's aides/care takers to convince him to disavow Birtherism and finally declare that B. Hussein was born a U.S. citizen and properly eligible to be POTUS.

Damn, to be a fly on the wall in that conversation.

#30 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-09-03 04:55 PM | Reply

@#29 ... Now do Hillary Clinton! ...

OK.

I think that fmr Sec of State Clinton, even with her email server problem, would have been a lot better than Pres Trump is.

How's that? :)

btw, keeping with the thread...

5PM (EDT) report: moving northwest 6mph, winds 110mph.

#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-03 05:00 PM | Reply

Now do Hillary Clinton!

#29 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Sure. Based on my criteria for President, I definitely think Hillary was one of the best Democrats could offer.

I think Hillary would have made an excellent President. She had decades of experience in government working with foreign officials to accomplish US interests across the world. In the process of that she had built up trust and working relationships with those same people, which again is a benefit. Negotiations always happen between people (though usually those people work on behalf of other entities) so trust between parties is essential to effective negotiation.

She is a policy wonk. She had very detailed policies laid out that took into account how to move the WHOLE country forward (not just the ~half that voted for her).

She came from a normal middle class family (not born with a silver spoon up her a** like just about every Republican presidential candidate in recent history) so had a real knowledge of what an average American goes through and where they come from.

She was not the best campaigner, and I think her "wonkiness" made her hard to relate to. She liked to talk about policy when a politician should avoid getting into the weeds and instead give a catchy slogan.

And, by all indications she is a decent human being and wanted what is best for this country (though, like any human being she has her faults).

Overall, while she may have had her deficiencies as a politician, I think she would have made an excellent president.

Now you do Trump.

#32 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 05:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

Do you really think that Hillary was THE BEST that liberals had to offer?

Now you do Trump.

Trump's a narcissistic, foulmouthed NY Real Estate Developer who beat a candidate with one of the worst run campaigns ever.

#33 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-03 05:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#33

Can't really argue with that.

#34 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-03 07:33 PM | Reply

Beat a candidate who would have been not only the first woman President, but the first to have a third term for the party since FDR.

It took a perfect storm to beat the candidate that won the popular vote going away, and then by a fraction of a percent in the EC.

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2019-09-03 07:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#35 | POSTED BY CORKY

HAHAhahaha! hahaha...haha. HAHAHAHAhahaha!!

#36 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-03 07:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-- won the popular vote going away,

48 to 46 percent. Why, that's almost like Reagan-Mondale!

#37 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-03 08:07 PM | Reply

Hey cut Trump some slack Some US Americans don't have maps

#38 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-09-03 08:08 PM | Reply

Trump's a narcissistic, foulmouthed NY Real Estate Developer who beat a candidate with one of the worst run campaigns ever.
#33 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

And this is the person that the Republican party picked as their leader. Knowing who he is (and we knew who he was way before the election) why do you think that a majority of Republicans decided that HE was the best for the party?

Do you agree that he was "the best that conservatives had to offer"? If not, why did conservatives pick him to lead their party?

#39 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-04 10:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is anyone else not shocked that a Narcissist would take umbrage to someone pointing out his mistake?

#25 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Is anyone else still in shock that this hateful conman is still our President?

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-09-04 11:05 AM | Reply

"He was THE BEST that conservatives had to offer."

And apparently still is.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-09-04 11:07 AM | Reply

#36

What that sounded like in real time:

www.youtube.com

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2019-09-04 01:13 PM | Reply

Trump has offered up another serving of the best words today. Sure, the Bahamas took a hit, but our hurricanes have been tremendouser!

Actual quote:
"I must tell you, over the years there have been some hurricanes that were bigger and stronger and more powerful that hit us very hard also."

#43 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-04 01:58 PM | Reply

Lives and property are at risk of being lost and this mf'er is matching out a fake storm map that looks like someone poorly altered it with a sharpie instead admitting he was wrong.

www.politico.com

#44 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-09-04 07:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Looks like both the NWS AND Trump were completely wrong

#13 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Most hilarious "BOTH SIDES" argument I've heard yet.

The NWS's computer models were inaccurate 5 days out from landfall.

Trump is altering maps TODAY to LIE to the country in order to save face from a previous FALSEHOOD he got caught telling.

Your party is led by a mental patient. And you all follow him and defend him every day. Future generations will wonder what the hell was wrong with all of you.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-04 10:57 PM | Reply

"Future generations will wonder what the hell was wrong with all of you.

#45 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

The current generation wonders about you.

#46 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-04 10:59 PM | Reply

The current generation wonders about you.

#46 | Posted by goatman

Do you care that the leader of the nation lied to the nation about the path of a hurricane to save face?

Does that bother you?

Let's play: pretend obama did it.

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-04 11:07 PM | Reply

"Do you care that the leader of the nation lied to the nation about the path of a hurricane to save face?
Does that bother you?
Let's play: pretend obama did it.

#47 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

No. If I fretted over politicians lying, I'd be a nervous wreck. Besides, for all I know this is another lie like the "Trump wants to nuke a hurricane" was.

#48 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-04 11:10 PM | Reply

No. If I fretted over politicians lying, I'd be a nervous wreck. Besides, for all I know this is another lie like the "Trump wants to nuke a hurricane" was.

#48 | Posted by goatman

How do you know that was a lie? Because the world's most famous liar said so?

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-04 11:28 PM | Reply

The NWS's computer models were inaccurate 5 days out from landfall.

Not really. They specifically said that the average inaccuracy 5 days out is 200 miles.

I never saw a track that showed Dorian going onshore in Florida.

#50 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-09-04 11:29 PM | Reply

This isn't just a politician lying about what he'll do if elected. He's literally misleading people about the path of a deadly storm to save face. If that's something all politicians do, show me another example.

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-04 11:29 PM | Reply

"How do you know that was a lie? "

I don't. I do know for a fact that the "nuke the storm" thing was a lie and you gullible liberals ate it up like candy anyway. I know that reinheitsgebot has a 50% truth rate at best. And I don't fret about lying politicians, as I said.

So added up, this story is low on the list of interest for me.

#52 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-04 11:31 PM | Reply

"I never saw a track that showed Dorian going onshore in Florida.

#50 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2019-09-04 11:29 PM |"

It didn't. I've been watching it online closely. I'm watching it outside my window right now.

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-04 11:32 PM | Reply

"This isn't just a politician lying about what he'll do if elected. He's literally misleading people about the path of a deadly storm to save face. If that's something all politicians do, show me another example.

#51 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

Politicians lie for a myriad of reasons. Saving face must surely be one of them, if it is indeed true.

Though Trump doesn't strike me as anyone who gives a ---- what people think about him.

#54 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-04 11:37 PM | Reply

"How do you know that was a lie? Because the world's most famous liar said so?"

Exactly.

#55 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-09-04 11:37 PM | Reply

"Though Trump doesn't strike me as anyone who gives a ---- what people think about him."

ROTFL

#56 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-09-04 11:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Overall, while she may have had her deficiencies as a politician, I think she would have made an excellent president.

Now you do Trump.

#32 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 05:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

But she wouldn't have made Mexico pay for the wall that is now coming out the budget used to build infrastructure for our soldiers, ameliorate natural disasters and ultimately funded by US taxpayers.

And she wouldn't have put billions of tariffs on chinese made goods that US consumers are paying and used to give socialism money to farmers who are going bankrupt because of foolish trade war. If Fat Nixon was honest about making things here in the US, his tax plan would not have cut the taxes US companies pay on things made overseas to 11% vs 21% here in the US. But to be honest, Fat Nixon had no clue what exactly was in his plan, neither did the GOP as the plan was written in secret with lobbyists for every special interest and was given to the rank and file for an hour to read thousands of pages before a vote after years of crying about how Obamacare was crammed down their throats after 11 months of planning and meetings and hearings.

#57 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-09-05 10:32 AM | Reply

I don't. I do know for a fact that the "nuke the storm" thing was a lie and you gullible liberals ate it up like candy anyway. I know that reinheitsgebot has a 50% truth rate at best. And I don't fret about lying politicians, as I said.

So added up, this story is low on the list of interest for me.

#52 | Posted by goatman

How do you KNOW FOR A FACT that he didn't say nuke the storm? The only way you could know that for a fact is if you are by his side 24/7. Are you?

We do know FOR A FACT that he said windmills cause cancer. So his scientific idiocy is established.

#58 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 01:13 PM | Reply

Though Trump doesn't strike me as anyone who gives a ---- what people think about him.

#54 | Posted by goatman

More proof of how blind you are. ALL trump cares about is what people think of him, because that's the most valuable commodity to a con man. Which is why he drew his own hurricane map to avoid people thinking he said something inaccurate.

#59 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 01:15 PM | Reply

"ALL trump cares about is what people think of him, because that's the most valuable commodity to a con man. Which is why he drew his own hurricane map to avoid people thinking he said something inaccurate.

#59 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-09-05 01:15 PM "

LOL I guess that explains why he says outrageous things to rile you gullible TDSers up. Logic. Try it.

#60 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 01:18 PM | Reply

:How do you KNOW FOR A FACT that he didn't say nuke the storm? The only way you could know that for a fact is if you are by his side 24/7. Are you?

#58 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

You are right, I don't know for a fact. But I do know for a fact:

1) It was reported by only one off the wall source, Axios
2) They said they saw it on Trump's twitter feed, but provided no screen shot for that tweet as other news organizations do when quoting Trump tweets
3) The only other reports said, "It was reported by Azios..." or even more vaguely, "it has been reported..."
4) MSM who all monitor Trump's twitter feeds did not report it. Even they said, "reported by axios"

So draw your own conclusion. Knowing how badly afflicted you are with TDS, I've no doubt you will draw the more illogical one.

And just as I don't know for a fact he didn't say it, you don't know he did. However, the facts overwhelmingly suggest he didn't.

#61 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 01:25 PM | Reply

LOL I guess that explains why he says outrageous things to rile you gullible TDSers up. Logic. Try it.

#60 | Posted by goatman

It explains it perfectly. Because when decent people get upset, his cult loves him more, which is all he needs.

#62 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 01:38 PM | Reply

So draw your own conclusion.

#61 | Posted by goatman

I'm drawing my conclusion based on him saying windmills cause cancer, and his long established record of denying things that turn out to be true.

He denied paying stormy daniels. He denied having business in russia. He denied having contacts with russia. He denied that he'd benefit from the tax cuts. He denied reports that he was going to fire [insert staffer name here] before he actually fired them.

See a pattern? Anyone with a functional brain does.

#63 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 01:41 PM | Reply

SpeaksTraitor is rooting for US failure and destruction, just so he can dance his little jig.

#64 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-05 01:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I'm drawing my conclusion based on ..." [past behavior]

#63 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-09-05 01:41 PM "

See, I told you you would draw the illogical conclusion.

So if you base your world view on past beharior, I guess you must really hate Germany. Or are you a Kaiser Wilhem and Nazi fan?

BTW, don't you know --- never mind. BTW, obviously you don't know that citing past events is not proof of the current one. You love your logical fallacies, don't you? That's all you have. Ever.

#65 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 02:01 PM | Reply

"Because when decent people get upset, his cult loves him more, which is all he needs.

#62 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

And your TDS cult hates him more.

What is your point?

#66 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 02:03 PM | Reply

SpeaksTraitor is rooting for US failure and destruction, just so he can dance his little jig.

#64 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Link?

#67 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 02:44 PM | Reply

So if you base your world view on past beharior, I guess you must really hate Germany. Or are you a Kaiser Wilhem and Nazi fan?

BTW, don't you know --- never mind. BTW, obviously you don't know that citing past events is not proof of the current one. You love your logical fallacies, don't you? That's all you have. Ever.

#65 | Posted by goatman

The fact that you need someone to point out that germany's bad behavior was 90 years ago and trump's bad behavior is constant and ongoing only makes people call you stupid, which you say you dont care about but constantly whine about.

#68 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 02:46 PM | Reply

"#68 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-09-05 02:46 PM"

The fact that you rely so heavily on logical fallacies (the latest is your assertion that past events "prove" a current one) pretty much negates all you say.

If you have proof (not a logical fallacy) that Trump said something about nuking a hurricane, please present it.

#69 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 02:59 PM | Reply

The fact that you rely so heavily on logical fallacies (the latest is your assertion that past events "prove" a current one) pretty much negates all you say.

#69 | Posted by goatman

Past lies prove someone is a liar. And being the most lying president in history means nothing he says should be believed. Yet here you are defending him like a chump. And then you'll whine about being accused of supporting his party.

I have proof he said windmills cause cancer. So I have proof he's a moron. Do you think windmills cause cancer goat?

#70 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 03:20 PM | Reply

"Past lies prove someone is a liar."

Yep Just like you. But just because you are a liar (by your own definition) doesn't mean everything you say is a lie. Same with Trump.

So for the third time, if you have proof that trump said anything about nuking a hurricane, please present it and quit deflectint.

Or simply grow a pair and say, "I have no proof".

"Yet here you are defending him like a chump. "

I'm not defending him. In fact, I even said I had no proof that he didn't say that after you asked me if I did. (see what I mean about your lies and you being a liar?) After I said I had no proof, I asked you if you had proof that he said anything about nuking a hurricane and to please resent it.

Do you, or do you not have proof he said that?

#71 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 03:26 PM | Reply

"#70 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-09-05 03:20 PM "

Your position is so absurd it is laughable. According to you, since Trump lied, anyone can say anything about him (as the "nuke a hurricane" thing) and you claim it was true because, well, Trump lied about something in the past.

So if the next gullible proggie belief is "trump wants to nuke the Marianas Trench" the next thing you hear, and you use the same logic, you can say, "Well, Trump did say that because he lied once".

LOL

I gotta hand it to you -- you really stretch to prove your TDS. That's some hard core dedication right there.

#72 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 03:30 PM | Reply

if you have proof that trump said anything about nuking a hurricane, please present it

I'm not defending him.

#71 | Posted by goatman

hahaha literally in the same post

#73 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 03:56 PM | Reply

if you have proof that trump said anything about nuking a hurricane, please present it

I'm not defending him.
#71 | Posted by goatman
hahaha literally in the same post

#73 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Sentence #1 that you reproduced is not a defense of Trump.

#74 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-05 04:11 PM | Reply

"Sentence #1 that you reproduced is not a defense of Trump."

How is I don't believe he said it, so you prove it not a defense?

#75 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 04:17 PM | Reply

"How is I don't believe he said it, so you prove it not a defense?

#75 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

Who said that? Did you post in the wrong thread, danforth?

#76 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 04:23 PM | Reply

"Who said that?"

Wasn't that the gist of your post? The "if you have proof" part certainly seems like you don't believe it, and the "post it" part seems like "prove it".

#77 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 04:25 PM | Reply

"Wasn't that the gist of your post? The "if you have proof" part certainly seems like you don't believe it, and the "post it" part seems like "prove it".

#77 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

Answer my question, then I'll answer yours. I asked first.

Again, who supposedly said, " I don't believe he said it, so you prove it "?

#78 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 04:29 PM | Reply

"Sentence #1 that you reproduced is not a defense of Trump."
How is I don't believe he said it, so you prove it not a defense?
#75 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I'd love to know JeffJ's answer.
The best I can do is it's not a defense of Trump... it's an attack on a Trump attacker!
But JeffJ doesn't seem like the type to split hairs that way, knowing full well the best defense is a good offense.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 04:32 PM | Reply

" who supposedly said, " I don't believe he said it, so you prove it "?"

I purposely didn't put quotes around it. I believed, and still believe, I was posting the gist of your defense.

Your turn: wasn't that the gist?

Example: If I were to say, "If you have any proof Trump got the majority of the votes..."

...isn't disbelief already baked in?

#80 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 04:36 PM | Reply

"The best I can do is it's not a defense of Trump."

No, it's not a defense of trump. How odd that you think that asking for proof of something is some kind of defense. When my Geometry teacher asked for proof of a theorom, does that mean he was defending against it?

Even danforth knows this or he would have quoted me directly rather than formulate a completely different sentence than I asked. Yes, that was dishonest, of course, but again, even he knew that my sentence was not a defence, or he would not have lied by asking a snoofyish question

You are such a troll, and not even a good one.

#81 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 04:41 PM | Reply

"#80 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

I really don't care how you want to twist my words. Let's stick to what I actually said and not what you wish I had said.

Do you have a problem with that?

#82 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 04:42 PM | Reply

"wasn't that the gist?"

Nope. Pretty far from it. And if you weren't so intent on a GDS compelled "gotcha goat" moment and used your PGUP key, you would seen in post 61 where I actually said, "You are right, I don't know for a fact." [if he said it or not]

But you are so consumed with GDS and trying to "get me" you rushed in and stuck your foot squarely in your mouth. If you have any balls at all, you will apologize. Your continual screeching in soprano tells me not to expect you to.

Begone, troll!

#83 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 04:47 PM | Reply

"When my Geometry teacher asked for proof of a theorom, does that mean he was defending against it?"

No, but when you said If you have proof of your claimed isosceles triangle equation, post it*, disbelief was baked into your question.

"...formulate a completely different sentence than I asked."

Feel free to break it down, like I did, and show me where your meaning was different.

*not a direct quote, just a parallel example.

#84 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 04:50 PM | Reply

"Let's stick to what I actually said and not what you wish I had said."

Okay. What you actually said was a defense of Trump. No big deal, but a defense. Pretend otherwise all you want.

#85 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 04:51 PM | Reply

""Let's stick to what I actually said and not what you wish I had said."
Okay. What you actually said was a defense of Trump. No big deal, but a defense. Pretend otherwise all you want.

#85 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

Um, no what I said was not in defense of Trump. What I said was, "if you have proof that trump said anything about nuking a hurricane, please present it".

You seem to forget we have PGUP keys, danforth.

I don't have to pretend. I clearly stated in post 61 that I don't know if he said it or not. You call that defending him? Of course it's not.

Again, you forget we have PGUP keys.

You've got this GDS thing bad. First you twist my words into something you wish I had said -- twice, each with a diffrent twist -- then you just blatantly ignore post 61 which proves you wrong. Jesus, danforth. Get a grip on yourself and your GDS.

#86 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 04:57 PM | Reply

"You've got this GDS thing bad."

Stop trying to make this about you.

" I clearly stated in post 61 that I don't know if he said it or not."

Sounds like disbelief that he said it.

"What I said was, "if you have proof that trump said anything about nuking a hurricane, please present it"."

Which sounds like disbelief is baked in.

#87 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 05:06 PM | Reply

"Stop trying to make this about you."

No problem I'll make it about danforth the liar.

You twisted my words twice into something I didn't say. Then you ignore my post 61 where I clearly am not defending trump since I left room open for the chance he said it and asked speaksoftly to prove he did.l

But you choose to be dishonest (what a surprise, huh?) and double, triple, and now quadruple down on your lie.

Well, herr goebbels, my posts are there and they clearly prove you wrong and very, very obsessed.

#88 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 05:11 PM | Reply

"You twisted my words twice into something I didn't say. "

I gave a summation. If you don't believe your initial phrase has doubt baked in, that's your problem, not mine.

"Well, herr goebbels"

Godwin is a genius.

#89 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 05:13 PM | Reply

"Sounds like disbelief that he said it."

Oh, so now you are backing off on the claim that I was supporting trump and now going with something not as brazen.

But again, you have to twist my words. I never said I disbelieved, nor does it "sound" like that. It sounds like, "You are right, I don't know for a fact", in other words an honest admission.

For ----- sake, danforth. This is so pathetic and I'm cringing in embarassment for you as you try to control and twist and mangle this thing.

Why don't you do what an honest person would do. Take my words as they are written and not what you want them to be. I know you'll have to put aside several magnitudes of GDS to do it, but it's what an honest person would do.

Good luck to you.

#90 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 05:17 PM | Reply

"Godwin is a genius.

#89 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

He is and you're a dishonest blogger who has to twist people's words rather than taking them as written because you are so consumed with an irrational obsession of proving another person wrong.

Don't deny it. Remember the PGUP thing.

#91 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 05:20 PM | Reply

Goat's new m.o. is to treat DR posts like a deposition.

What an embarrassing waste of time.

#92 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-05 05:21 PM | Reply

"Oh, so now you are backing off on the claim that I was supporting trump"

I didn't say "supporting". Why are you lying about what I said? Oh....right: it's okay for you, just not for others.

But no, I'm not backing off at all. I still believe your phrasing includes doubt baked in. Just like if you asked your Geometry teacher to post proof of her or his equation after right they made the claim.

"I'm cringing in embarassment for you as you"

React any way you want. Everyone else can read the thread.

"It sounds like, "You are right, I don't know for a fact""

Riiiiiiiiight. Because everyone demands proof after believing something is accurate. /snark

"Why don't you do what an honest person would do. Take my words as they are written and not what you want them to be."

In the same post where he misquotes me. You can't make this schitt up.

#93 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 05:25 PM | Reply

How is I don't believe he said it, so you prove it not a defense?

#75 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

He was asking for substantiation which nobody seems to have. Not accepting a claim on faith is not a defense of anything.

Either provide substantiation or cede the point. This isn't difficult.

#94 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-05 05:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"you are so consumed with an irrational obsession of proving another person wrong."

Lucky for you, you make it so easy.

Give us another equation where you leave out the salient parts until you're proven wrong, and then blame the guy who did the equation as you proffered it.

#95 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 05:27 PM | Reply

"He was asking for substantiation which nobody seems to have."

Well, nobody except for Teh Googles:
www.axios.com

...or just search "Trump nuke hurricane". It's surprisingly simple.

"Either provide substantiation or cede the point."

Ooooh...sounds like you have disbelief baked in.

#96 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 05:33 PM | Reply

"Either provide substantiation or cede the point. This isn't difficult."

Getting you to acknowledge that substantiation has occurred?
Now that is going to be difficult!

Or not.
Your call.

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 05:41 PM | Reply

"#96 | POSTED BY DANFORTH A"

*yawn* The PGUP thing again, danforth. Here, I'll help you.

1) It was reported by only one off the wall source, Axios
2) They said they saw it on Trump's twitter feed, but provided no screen shot for that tweet as other news organizations do when quoting Trump tweets
3) The only other reports said, "It was reported by Azios..." or even more vaguely, "it has been reported..."
4) MSM who all monitor Trump's twitter feeds did not report it. Even they said, "reported by axios"

So draw your own conclusion. Knowing how badly afflicted you are with TDS, I've no doubt you will draw the more illogical one.

So weird how not one MSM reported this without the caveat: "as reported by axios" even though the MSM loves stories like this. In fact no one reported it without that caveat, or were even more vague with "... was reported..."

But as I said. Draw your own conclustion. Your TDS and GDS will compel you to believe the very unlikely scenario that Axios (who are they, anyway?) is the only person who saw this tweet, and even they don't have a screen shot.

You are hilarious, danforth.

#98 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 05:42 PM | Reply

"as reported by axios"

This isn't the substantiation you're looking for.
He's free to go about his business.
Move along.

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 05:43 PM | Reply

"Well, nobody except for Teh Googles:
www.axios.com
...or just search "Trump nuke hurricane". It's surprisingly simple.
"Either provide substantiation or cede the point."
Ooooh...sounds like you have disbelief baked in.

#96 | POSTED BY DANFORTH ""

What? No screenshot of the tweet? What? No one else in the huge, huge googleland -- not even the MSM -- reported the tweet?

You are so very, very gullible, danforth.

#100 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 05:45 PM | Reply

"Draw your own conclustion"

My conclusion is it was reported by a reliable outlet, who claimed to have a source in the meeting.

Meanwhile, you conveniently left out the quoted source in the meeting, in the Axios article. You, who take others to task about leaving out inconvenient parts.

Again, you can't make this schitt up.

#101 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 05:50 PM | Reply

"So draw your own conclusion"

You've spent the latter half of this thread demanding that Danforth draw his conclusion for you...

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 05:52 PM | Reply

"What? No screenshot of the tweet?"

No one said it was a tweet. The only reference to a tweet in the Axios article was Trump calling it untrue.

And weren't you claiming in prior days Trump said it on purpose, to play teh librulz?

"You are so very, very gullible"

I'm not the one who had to change positions based on what turd had to be polished today. Nor am I the one who fell for that FAIR crap. Seems like you're projecting.

#103 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 05:58 PM | Reply

"Again, you can't make this schitt up.

#101 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

Fully agree. That anyone believes the MSM doesn't claim a story like this and says, "reported by axios" and without even seeing a screenshot is incredulous. I mean, even trump hating CNN didn't report it. I can't believe people can be so gullible.

I'm glad we can agree on how something this farfetched can only be the stuff of some very imaginative fiction writers.

#104 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 05:58 PM | Reply

"What? No screenshot of the tweet?"

Like that would even be convincing, in this day of Photoshop!

One of the argumentative tricks employed by people like Goatman is to demand proof, while also setting the bar for proof unobtainably high, which allows Goatman to declare victory regardless of evidence, since no evidence is sufficient to establish proof at the Goatman level.

#105 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 06:01 PM | Reply

"I'm not the one who had to change positions based on what turd had to be polished today. Nor am I the one who fell for that FAIR crap. Seems like you're projecting.

#103 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

Citation needed.

Yes, you changed my positions. Twice. I never did. I stuck to them steadfastly. You are very confused.

Why do you keep digging this hole deeper, danforth? You got busted. Be a man and own it, or barring that, quit digging your hole deeper. I'm stuck between laughing, cringing, shaking my head in disbelief.

Either provide proof that I defended trump on the nuke the hurricane thing, or keep digging that hole.

#106 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 06:01 PM | Reply

- which allows Goatman to declare victory

Danforth handed it to him.

#107 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-05 06:06 PM | Reply

Sentence #1 that you reproduced is not a defense of Trump.

#74 | Posted by JeffJ

Yeah. And 6 is totally different from a half dozen. I see you've been taking goatman's semantics classes.

#108 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 06:06 PM | Reply

" and without even seeing a screenshot is incredulous. "

A screenshot of what? A tweet that doesn't exist except in your mind? The one time the word "tweet" appears in the linked Axios article is referring to Trump's response. And there certainly exist screenshots of that. In fact, here are links to three tweets where Trump denied saying what was claimed:
www.axios.com

#109 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:07 PM | Reply

No one else in the world reporting on the twitter axios, a three year old "news" source, saw. Literally no one.

Yeah, real believable. Some people are so gullible.

#110 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 06:10 PM | Reply

"In fact, here are links to three tweets where Trump denied saying what was claimed:"

Well, duh -- whenever people like you put words in my mouth, (PGUP for a couple of examples) I deny it too. LOL

#111 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 06:11 PM | Reply

As happens with every goatman-involved thread, this one has once again devolved into a debate about the meaning of words instead of the larger topic of the thread.

In this case idiots are arguing about the definition of "defend" instead of the larger point that trump messed up then created his own weather map to deny the fact that he messed up.

Trump said windmills cause cancer and climate change is a chinese hoax. Proof that he's a scientific moron. This can't be refuted.

Trump denies he said nuke the hurricane, but that denial is WORTHLESS because of all the other things trump has denied that have later been proven true. This also can't be refuted.

So when you can't refute something, what can you do? Start arguing about semantics and vocabulary words. But if you pause, zoom out, and look at what you're doing- you're defending a liar and moron who is in charge of the country, instead of helping get rid of him and protect your kids' futures.

#112 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 06:12 PM | Reply

"Citation needed."

That you changed positions? Here you go: this is from the original thread on the story a handful of days ago:

Once again Trump says something outrageouos and once again his little puppets are all atither and dancing to his tune. You know he reads this stuff and his enormous ego even gets more enourmous knowing his power over the brainless who should just ignore him. Obviously he's not going to huke a hurricane. But he got the reaction he was seeking mentioning it.
#8 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-08-25 08:29 PM

#113 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:13 PM | Reply

What position was changed? Your ---- is getting stretched so thin, it is invisible.

#114 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 06:15 PM | Reply

"You got busted. Be a man and own it"

Post the guy who never admitted his math was wrong, but instead brought in aspects he purposely ignored when complaining about the high costs of University tuition.

#115 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:17 PM | Reply

"Trump denies he said nuke the hurricane, but that denial is WORTHLESS because of all the other things trump has denied that have later been proven true. This also can't be refuted.

#112 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

So if I start a rumor that trump wants to nuke the Marianas trench and all the gullible libbies buy it and trump denies saying it, it means he said it, when it was I who said it?

LOL

speaksoftly and logic -- never the twain shall meet.

#116 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 06:18 PM | Reply

"What position was changed?"

A few days ago, you were convinced Trump had said it, and done it purposely to get the reaction. Now, suddenly, you're not even sure he said it. And you're just about to pretend there is no inconsistency.

#117 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:20 PM | Reply

"Post the guy who never admitted his math was wrong, but instead brought in aspects he purposely ignored when complaining about the high costs of University tuition.

#115 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

You are just deflecting all over the place, aren't you, danforth.

Quite telling.

Let' get back to the original claim of yours that I was defending trump on the nuke the hurricane thing. Please cite me doing that.

#118 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 06:20 PM | Reply

"A few days ago, you were convinced Trump had said it, and done it purposely to get the reaction. Now, suddenly, you're not even sure he said it. And you're just about to pretend there is no inconsistency."

Sometimes, a few days can feel like an eternity.

Maybe he's evolved since then, like when it was okay for him to hire illegal Mexicans down at the Shell station, but now it's not okay to hire illegal Mexicans anymore.

#119 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 06:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

'Well, duh -- whenever people like you put words in my mouth, (PGUP for a couple of examples) I deny it too.''

Where's proof of your second claim above in post #61...that "They (Axios) said they saw it on Trump's twitter feed"

Axios never made that claim. Either post proof of your claim, or admit you lied.

#120 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:24 PM | Reply

"A few days ago, you were convinced Trump had said it,"

Yeah, I admit I assumed it was true at the time. Then when I saw it was a reinheitsgebot story, I decided to check sources as I always do with his stories. That's when I found out no one actually reported it except for some three year old "news" company.

I admit. I took the bait and believed the story to be true without checking its verasity. Mea culpa. But once it became clear that the chances of it being true were close to zero based on the fact that only one pissant news outlet in the entire world reported it, I did what any reasonable and logical person would do: Assume it's a fake story.

Again, my bad.

#121 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 06:25 PM | Reply

"Let' get back to the original claim of yours that I was defending trump on the nuke the hurricane thing. Please cite me doing that."

Oh, this is too easy: Does "Please cite me" imply disbelief, or not?

#122 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:26 PM | Reply

" except for some three year old "news" company."

Of editors and reporters with a high pedigree. Jonathan Swan co-wrote this one. But I guess if SLS is all you have, it's all you can do.

#123 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:28 PM | Reply

""Let' get back to the original claim of yours that I was defending trump on the nuke the hurricane thing. Please cite me doing that."
Oh, this is too easy: Does "Please cite me" imply disbelief, or not?

#122 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

I'll take that for your inability to do so. But we both know your claim was a lie.

Power just came back on here. I've got to put the generator and cords away. But please, do continue digging your hole. Perhaps I'll come back and amuse myself with your spins and gyrations.

Enjoy yourself, danforth.

#124 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 06:29 PM | Reply

D: "I'm not the one who had to change positions (like you)"

G: "Citation needed."
G: "...you changed my positions. Twice. I never did"

G, a few posts later: Yeah, I admit I assumed it was true at the time.

You can't make this schitt up.

I'm sure Goatman will be apologizing any moment for claiming I changed his position, when the facts show, and he admits, HE changed his position.

#125 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"But once it became clear that the chances of it being true were close to zero based on the fact that only one pissant news outlet in the entire world reported it"

Same thing could have been said of the Lewinsky Affair, when Drudge broke that story.
Story turned out to be true, though.

#126 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 06:34 PM | Reply

"I'll take that for your inability to do so."

I've already linked to a reputable outlet and a reputable reporter. Pretending I didn't is just that: pretending.

#127 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:34 PM | Reply

"But we both know your claim was a lie."

Another lie from g, who's clearly embarrassed at the suggestion he was defending Trump by casting doubt and demanding proof.

#128 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 06:38 PM | Reply

So if I start a rumor that trump wants to nuke the Marianas trench and all the gullible libbies buy it and trump denies saying it, it means he said it, when it was I who said it?

LOL

speaksoftly and logic -- never the twain shall meet.

#116 | Posted by goatman

Well if you were a real reporter and I had to choose between taking your word or taking trump's word, which is worthless, I'd take yours.

But you'd be a fool to report that if it weren't true unless you want to ruin your reputation and your ability to earn a living.

#129 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 06:42 PM | Reply

#96 Danforth

I have disbelief baked in?

In order for that to be the case I'd have to care about this and I couldn't care less about this. I think the thread topic is stupid.

#130 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-05 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Another lie from g, who's clearly embarrassed at the suggestion he was defending Trump by casting doubt and demanding proof.

#128 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

It wasn't a lie. You clearly changed my words to suit your argument. Twice. For you to say otherwise is a lie. (remember, we all have PGUP -- something you seem to keep forgetting as you continue your digging)

And I'm embarrassed about nothing. I stuck to my exact words in spite of your rabid attempts to change them and tell me what you think they meant. Clearly you are the embarrassed one for being called out on your dishonesty. Otherwise, why do you keep spinning and digging? Why not accept my words as I wrote them and meant them to be rather than changing them and telling me you believe I meant otherwise? Prove me wrong. Tell me you accept my words as I wrote them and not as you spun them. I dare you.

You aren't well, danforth. You are completely consumed with GDS.

#131 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 07:22 PM | Reply

The fixation on Goatman is pathological.

All because they lost an election.

#132 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-05 07:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#125 | POSTED BY DANFORTH
#127 | POSTED BY DANFORTH
#128 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I'm not a tax professional, but you're over-invested in this thread.

#133 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-05 07:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"In order for that to be the case I'd have to care about this and I couldn't care less about this. I think the thread topic is stupid."

To review:
The President Sharpied in his own hurricane forecast, on top of the one provided by the weather bureau.

Many things can and will be said about that.
But here's one that ought to perk your ears up:
What Trump did on that map, that certainly seems to be a violation of Federal criminal statue.

Are you sure you don't care about President violating the law?
Are you sure you think a thread about the President violating the law is stupid?

Doesn't sound like the JeffJ I know.

#134 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 07:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In order for that to be the case I'd have to care about this and I couldn't care less about this. I think the thread topic is stupid.

#130 | Posted by JeffJ

Yet here you are...

#135 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 08:11 PM | Reply

"You clearly changed my words to suit your argument. Twice."

Once, I gave the gist, never claiming they were YOUR words, and the other time, you were proven wrong by YOUR OWN words.

And if you're referring to your University cost debacle, I used the exact math you proffered; you didn't account for dropouts in your initial claim, but you wanted to account for them when your claim was proven wrong via actual math.

#136 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 08:12 PM | Reply

The fixation on Goatman is pathological.

All because they lost an election.

#132 | Posted by SheepleSchism

You're just jealous that someone is stealing your throne as most annoying troll on the site.

You need to step up your game if you want to reclaim the crown.

#137 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 08:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

'In order for that to be the case I'd have to care about this and I couldn't care less about this"

And we all thank you for caring enough to post that fact.

#138 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 08:13 PM | Reply

"Why not accept my words as I wrote them "

If you have proof I didn't accept your words, please present it.

Now....anyone who doesn't see doubt cast in the first part of that response is a blithering idiot. Are you a blithering idiot?

#139 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 08:15 PM | Reply

Are you sure you don't care about President violating the law?
Are you sure you think a thread about the President violating the law is stupid?

That depends. Is the President in question, Obama? Then he cares a lot.

Is the President, Trump? Then everyone is overreacting to nonsense drummed up by the fake news msm.

#140 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-05 08:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If you have proof I didn't accept your words, please present it.
Now....anyone who doesn't see doubt cast in the first part of that response is a blithering idiot. Are you a blithering idiot?

#139 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

You know damn well what the proof is because you wrote the words.. Why should I cut and paste it just so you can deny it? Troll someone else.

#141 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 08:22 PM | Reply

"What Trump did on that map, that certainly seems to be a violation of Federal criminal statue."

Good. You guys finally have something on him. Now impeach him.

#142 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 08:24 PM | Reply

Good. You guys finally have something on him. Now impeach him.

#142 | Posted by goatman

Why? Can't YOUR party defend the rule of law? Their votes would be helpful.

#143 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-05 08:32 PM | Reply

"You guys finally have something on him."

You guys have the same thing.
Why don't you impeach him?

I mean, you're asking us to clean up your house for you.

#144 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 08:34 PM | Reply

"You guys have the same thing.
Why don't you impeach him?
I mean, you're asking us to clean up your house for you.

#144 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

That's Pelosi's job. Besides, you already explained to me that your party won't impeach because they are afraid they'll lose. They don't care about right and wrong -- they are afraid of losing.

So please don't ask trolling questions just because you belong to the party of cowards.

#145 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 08:36 PM | Reply

"Why should I cut and paste it just so you can deny it?"

And that sound you heard was the point zooming over your head.

Turns out when someone else posts it...you sure CAN see doubt, using the SAME WORDS.

#146 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 08:36 PM | Reply

You're right, danforth. Now go get a life.

#147 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-05 08:38 PM | Reply

"That's Pelosi's job."

Then don't ask anyone else to do it.
Sheesh.

#148 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 08:38 PM | Reply

"Why should I cut and paste it just so you can deny it? Troll someone else."

The fact you can't do it proves I'm right!
~g "logic"

#149 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-05 08:38 PM | Reply

#134 I thought this thread was about Trump suggesting nuking the hurricane. That's what Danforth and Goat have been arguing about.

#150 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-05 08:48 PM | Reply

"#134 I thought this thread was about Trump suggesting nuking the hurricane"

It's about how you managed to nuke your own personal hurricane of caring when the President breaks the law.
Congratulations, you built that!

#151 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 09:21 PM | Reply

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