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Tuesday, September 03, 2019

Walmart Press Release: After visiting El Paso on Aug. 6, I mentioned that we would be thoughtful and deliberate in our responses. We're ready to share our next steps. We've been giving a lot of thought to our sale of firearms and ammunition. We've previously made decisions to stop selling handguns or military-style rifles such as the AR-15, to raise the age limit to purchase a firearm or ammunition to 21, to require a "green light" on a background check while federal law only requires the absence of a "red light," to videotape the point of sale for firearms and to only allow certain trained associates to sell firearms.

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Today, we're sharing the decisions we've made that go further:

After selling through our current inventory commitments, we will discontinue sales of short-barrel rifle ammunition such as the .223 caliber and 5.56 caliber that, while commonly used in some hunting rifles, can also be used in large capacity clips on military-style weapons;

We will sell through and discontinue handgun ammunition; and

We will discontinue handgun sales in Alaska, marking our complete exit from handguns.

We know these decisions will inconvenience some of our customers, and we hope they will understand. As a company, we experienced two horrific events in one week, and we will never be the same. Our remaining assortment will be even more focused on the needs of hunting and sport shooting enthusiasts.

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Walmart just made the next massacre incrementally less likely.

Good on them.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-03 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So... much... winning. I get tired of all the winning.

#2 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 02:41 PM | Reply

1 down, 2 million to go.

#3 | Posted by LesWit at 2019-09-03 02:42 PM | Reply

hey look
another safe space thread for all the DR know-it-all economic majors, financial experts, deficit hawks and constitutional scholars to lecture us on this every important topic, (gunzzz)
good thing too since the economy, the deficit and the constitution is something not to be worried about, anymore

#4 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-09-03 02:44 PM | Reply

#1
Can you quantify "incrementally" ?

#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-09-03 02:51 PM | Reply

"Walmart just made the next massacre incrementally less likely.
Good on them.

#1 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2019-09-03 02:40 PM "

Since not a single one of them has been by a person who went to WalMart, bought a gun, and immediately went out shooting, I don't see how your statement is true. I guess this move prevents that very thing from happening, but it had never happened before as far as I know.

This will not prevent prevention of sales of these types of guns. Other gun dealers will pick up the slack since demand won't diminish.

Besides, the people who applaud this move generally hate WalMart anyway. Or so they say, depending on the topic.

#6 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-03 03:01 PM | Reply

Okay. Ist pver. May God have mercy on my soul

Remember the 2'nd men, that's what is was for.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-09-03 03:16 PM | Reply

#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Dude, bingo on Wednesdays.

#8 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-09-03 03:19 PM | Reply

Since not a single one of them has been by a person who went to WalMart, bought a gun, and immediately went out shooting, I don't see how your statement is true. I guess this move prevents that very thing from happening, but it had never happened before as far as I know.

#6 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Nice strawman (though, to be fair, not sure you did it intentionally).

Walmart is basically banning guns designed to kill people from its stores. Before, if you walked into a Walmart with a "military style rifle" or a handgun, then they assumed that you were a customer so would not approach you (not wanting to annoy a customer when they are acting in an appropriate manner). Now, if you walk in with a gun designed to kill people, they can be at a heightened state of awareness, and actually approach you and request that you go put the firearm back in your vehicle (since you are already doing something that is against store policy).

That means that a shooter's likely first contact will be with the security personnel at the front of the store with the security personnel actively making contact, instead of in a random place in the store (of the shooter's choosing) with the security personnel only reacting to a threat (after it has already started).

Proactive reaction in a defined location is much easier to handle. Hence, a shooter would be more likely to pass up the Walmart and pick an easier target. Or, if they did target the Walmart, they are more likely to be contained and have a limited effect.

#9 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 03:23 PM | Reply

assigning a position again goat.......Besides, the people who applaud this move generally hate WalMart anyway. Or so they say, depending on the topic.

#6 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-09-03 03:01 PM | REPLY

#10 | Posted by cjk85 at 2019-09-03 03:23 PM | Reply

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#6 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-09-03 03:01 PM | REPLY |

It absolutely guarantees that nobody will conduct a mass shooting by getting their guns and ammo from walmart. And yes people do buy a gun while angry and use it to shoot someone. Waiting 5 days to get a gun is not a violation of the 2nd amendment and it absolutely saves lives.

The waiting period on gun purchases was removed by the conservatives a few years ago

2 miles from my home.

crimeola.com

#11 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-09-03 03:24 PM | Reply

Walmart announced on Tuesday that it was banning customers from open carrying weapons in its stores

HAHA

now you bums will have to go elsewhere to dress up and play "men"

#12 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-09-03 03:27 PM | Reply

Oh, Lawdy! Where WILL I purchase ammunition from now on (looks up at Bass Pro Shops sign and smiles)...

#13 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-09-03 03:29 PM | Reply

Only in America do we rely on a private big box store run by billionaires to do what the government should be doing.

I am tired of the government outsourcing its responsibilities to the private sector.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-03 03:31 PM | Reply

This will not prevent prevention of sales of these types of guns. Other gun dealers will pick up the slack since demand won't diminish.

#6 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Probably. But not completely. Some places there might be a gun shop next door. Other places the closest gun shop might be 20 miles away (or more). In those places, you are significantly limiting people's access to certain types of ammunition.

Also, I don't buy much ammunition from Walmart, or other places, but I would guess that Walmart is cheaper (since that is sort of what they do). Basic economics... as the price increases the demand decreases. And without the competition from Walmart, other ammunition sellers will likely raise prices due to decreased competition (also basic economics). Probably not any big box stores (Dick's or Bass Pro Shop) but the small gun shops probably would.

Now, I don't think Walmart's purpose is necessarily to have an impact by decreasing supply or demand for ammo. I think they just don't want to have people killing guns in their stores to make their stores safer. And probably also don't want to be in the news anymore being listed as the place where some ---------- psycho bought his guns and ammo before shooting a bunch of people.

#15 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 03:33 PM | Reply

Interestingly, this doesn't impact the conceal carriers.

#16 | Posted by Daniel at 2019-09-03 03:36 PM | Reply

It will be interesting to see if the ----------- will now boycott Walmart.

#17 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-09-03 03:37 PM | Reply

-I am tired of the government outsourcing its responsibilities to the private sector.

If you had your eyes open, you'd have been tired a long time ago.

The govt has been working in cooperation with with the private sector forever on many regulatory issues.

Not that you would know that.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-03 03:40 PM | Reply

"Bullets and assault rifles - %50 off!" - Walmart

#19 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-03 03:45 PM | Reply

Good move. I don't generally shop there for other reasons.
The three times I had to shop there's some hilljack baby factory not paying attention to her multiple kids some of whom are screaming their heads off and or destroying things in the store. Had a buddy that refers to Wall-Marts as "little Texas".

#20 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-09-03 03:49 PM | Reply

I am tired of the government outsourcing its responsibilities to the private sector.

#14 | POSTED BY JOE

Meh... the government reflects the people. But the free market (private sector) is a much more reactive reflection of the people.

Guns are the way they are in this country because the people don't want to regulate them (or don't care enough about regulating them to change their vote based on the issue). In general, structural roadblocks can swing a few percentage points advantage one way or the other (like the EC, or gerrymandering, or NRA/Russian money being used to influence politicians) but if a majority of Americans believe something should change AND CARE ABOUT IT then it will change. It is not "government's job" to do something. It is our job to tell government what to do.

And things like this show you where it is going. That is why Republicans are so excited about packing the judiciary with activist judges. Because they also see where things are going. And they know they are losing the country on issues like this, so they are doing whatever they can to put in more structural roadblocks.

But, as I said, it can only swing a few percentage points advantage. If 60% of Americans believe that guns should be regulated, AND CARE ENOUGH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE BASED ON IT, then it will happen regardless of whatever structural roadblocks Republicans put in place.

And that is the direction it is going. Everyone knows it. Even the people who oppose it can see it moving that direction. The only question is how quickly it happens.

#21 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 03:50 PM | Reply

-I am tired of the government outsourcing its responsibilities to the private sector.

IOW, you hate capitalism. You'd prefer that it be the govt that lays it's heavy hand on the private sector rather than the private sector make prudent decisions like this one.

Your mind can't wrap it's weak feeble arms around it.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-03 03:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wal-mart has decided that the margins from selling that kind of ammo is outweighed by the liability and public perception exposures.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-03 03:57 PM | Reply

I have never bought ammo from there and probably never will. I have a local gun shop I primarily use. If he can't get it I buy online.

#24 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-09-03 03:57 PM | Reply

If you had your eyes open, you'd have been tired a long time ago.

I said i "am tired," not that i "just got tired."

If you didn't have such a ------ for following me around and biting my ankles you probably wouldn't have posted such a stupid kneejerk assumption.

#25 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-03 04:01 PM | Reply

"Bass Pro Shops"

What a Poser!

#26 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-09-03 04:02 PM | Reply

25

follow you around? from where to where, lil joe?

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-03 04:02 PM | Reply

but if a majority of Americans believe something should change AND CARE ABOUT IT then it will change

--------.

The President represents a minority of Americans.

The "majority" in the Senate represents a minority of Americans.

In a true representative democracy, your statement would be accurate. In America it's a pipe dream.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-03 04:03 PM | Reply

Wal-mart has decided that the margins from selling that kind of ammo is outweighed by the liability and public perception exposures.

#23 | POSTED BY EBERLY

And, more tellingly, it seems they think those concerns outweigh any negative "public perception" they will probably engender from the ----------- by doing this.

As I said before, this in itself won't significantly affect access to guns. But, it is a very bright indication of where the country is moving.

#29 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 04:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"but if a majority of Americans believe something should change AND CARE ABOUT IT then it will change"

You put the key words in all caps for a good reason, IMO.

most folks will decide an issue is important to them...but what also matters is how important it is to them

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-03 04:08 PM | Reply

"most folks will decide an issue is important to them...but what also matters is how important it is to them"

wow, then ------ chicken sandwiches are very important to know-it-all internet --------, then

#31 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-09-03 04:12 PM | Reply

The President represents a minority of Americans.
The "majority" in the Senate represents a minority of Americans.
In a true representative democracy, your statement would be accurate. In America it's a pipe dream.

#28 | POSTED BY JOE

Thats because we are skirting around the middle. Those structural roadblocks can push Trump's 46% vote share a couple of percentage points to beat Hillary's 48%. The Republican activist judiciary can probably be a counterweight against maybe a 10% gap in public sentiment (hold back 55% for vs 45% against). But, if Hillary had gotten 60% of the vote, there is no way Trump could have won with any sort of advantage in the EC or gerrymandering.

And unpopular judicial decisions splash back on elected representatives. Once they are in the minority, the judiciary is easily brought back in line with public sentiment.

You can't rely on government to change the people. The people have to change. And they are.

To be honest, this last presidential election showed me how wrong I was when it came to how many of the American people are racist or are willing to tolerate racism. But, even with that, the country is moving in the right direction. It may not go as quickly as we want, but it will happen. We just have to wait for the racists to die out (of old age) as well as the racially apathetic. Which is happening at an accelerating rate.

#32 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-03 04:15 PM | Reply

"to require a "green light" on a background check while federal law only requires the absence of a "red light,"
"federal law only requires the absence of a "red light"

And people still act like they're surprised whenever the background check system fails to prevent gun violence...

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-03 04:15 PM | Reply

31

Do you need somebody to come over and kiss your little boo-boo?

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-03 04:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Do you need somebody to come over and kiss your little boo-boo"

it's not like some university stepped on my dick so bad I had to take to the internet to whine about it anonymously

#35 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-09-03 04:32 PM | Reply

Interestingly, this doesn't impact the conceal carriers.
#16 | POSTED BY DANIEL AT 2019

"We will sell through and discontinue handgun ammunition; "

"Bass Pro Shops"
What a Poser!
#26 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

OK, let's go with Academy Sports, my second choice.

#36 | Posted by Vaquero at 2019-09-03 04:35 PM | Reply

"...------ chicken sandwiches ..."

POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

I generally don't eat there because I'm not a fan of fast food, but the few times I have, I have found their chicken sandwiches to be quite tasty. Maybe you went there on a bad day. Or, more likely, TDS tainted your taste buds.

I think I'll go buy a couple of sandwiches there now just to piss off a liberal. LOL

#37 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-03 04:38 PM | Reply

"I think I'll go buy a couple of sandwiches there now just to piss off a liberal. LOL"

this is ALL that is left of "the right".

gotta own the libs.

#38 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-09-03 04:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

" Or, more likely, TDS tainted your taste buds"

more like Trump's actual taint tainted his taste buds.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-03 04:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I wouldn't go to Walmart WITHOUT a gun. The local store here has more police calls than any other place in the whole gotdam county.

#40 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-03 04:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wait, now even the ammo is "assault style"?!?!

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-03 04:56 PM | Reply

#40 that's why WAL*MART is considered the "cultural hub" of many communities.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-03 05:05 PM | Reply

22 cal is handgun ammo. That gone too?
30-30 and or 45-70 is also handgun ammo (Thompson Contender)

#43 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-03 07:31 PM | Reply

2 miles from my home.
crimeola.com

#11 | POSTED BY HATTER5183 AT 2019-09-03 03:24 PM | REPLY

Damn, what a heartbreaking story.

#44 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-03 07:42 PM | Reply

I wouldn't go to Walmart WITHOUT a gun. The local store here has more police calls than any other place in the whole gotdam county.

#40 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2019-09-03 04:42 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

Yeah, there are some real freaks at the Walmart, especially after 9 pm. It's as if you had to fail a drug test to get in.

#45 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-03 07:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#45

Just look at peopleofwalmart.com

#46 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-09-03 08:20 PM | Reply

"Just look at peopleofwalmart.com

#46 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS"

I love that site.

#47 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-03 08:25 PM | Reply

The good news is I can go in there stoned and naked with a dead raccoon on my head (long story) and nobody says a thing.

#48 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-03 08:40 PM | Reply

Please don't share the "long story"!

#49 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-09-03 08:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Awwwwwwwwwwwww did the big bad WalMart stop selling manhood replacer pills?? The poor dears. How will they ever live with themselves now???

#50 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-09-03 09:17 PM | Reply

Would anybody care to elaborate on how firearms/ammunition for said firearms make somebody less of a man? Multiple comments have been posted taking jabs at people who are upset over this move by Walmart.

#51 | Posted by JacobMcCandles at 2019-09-04 08:15 AM | Reply

It is fun watching progressives sing praise for Walmart.

The one thing I like about Walmart is they have an abundant variety of charcoal and it's priced cheap.

#52 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-04 10:14 AM | Reply

--It is fun watching progressives sing praise for Walmart.

Yeah, usually the comfortably smug are looking at sites like "people of walmart" and ridiculing poor people who go there to save money.

#53 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-04 10:19 AM | Reply

Would anybody care to elaborate on how firearms/ammunition for said firearms make somebody less of a man?

#51 | POSTED BY JACOBMCCANDLES

The guns/ammo does not make you less of a man. It is just that people who are already "less of a man" tend to buy lots of guns and ammo to compensate for their deficiencies.

In general, the people that I see open carry are the ones that don't really have their life together. Generally they are in a crap job and/or a crap marriage, and have no real motivation to improve themselves or their prospects. Now, maybe it IS the case that their obsession with guns is what made their life suck. But, I think that they know their life sucks and they feel they don't have much control over it, so they feel inferior and helpless when compared to the people around them. So, they decide to carry around a death stick. Because even if they can't measure up to their peers when it relates to every real measure that society cares about (wealth, education, status, connections, self-esteem), they KNOW that they can measure up (or at least think they can) if it comes down to violence (because they have their death stick).

Did that answer your question?

#54 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-09-04 10:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I know plenty of gun owners and not one of them fit the stupid stereotypes that lefties like to caricature.

#55 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-04 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Never considered purchasing a pistol, or rifle from Walmart, let alone ammo, so not biggie as best deals are online.

#56 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-09-04 11:46 AM | Reply

Walmart sold about half the ammo in the country.

Local gun stores are now selling 12,500 round barrels of .223 to meet panic demand.

#57 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-09-04 11:51 AM | Reply

I know plenty of gun owners and not one of them fit the stupid stereotypes that lefties like to caricature.

#55 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-

But some of them are caricatures, to include that open-carry fellow who came over to the table where my wife and I were peacefully eating dinner to emphasize the point he was open-carry.

#58 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-04 11:54 AM | Reply

" ...to include that open-carry fellow who came over to the table where my wife and I were peacefully eating dinner ...

#58 | POSTED BY ZED "

Did your dinner continue peacefully, or was there a big shoot-'em-up"

Personally I prefer open carry than concealed carry. I like to know who's packing.

#59 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-04 11:58 AM | Reply

Personally I prefer open carry than concealed carry.

#59 | Posted by goatman

I prefer people not to wag their dicks in my face.

#60 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-04 12:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The most commonly used round in homicides is a .22 LR. Checked this afternoon, and yes they are continueing to sell them.

#61 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-04 12:47 PM | Reply

No, that didn't answer my question. It seems your generalizing the issue that I'd say is rather isolated at best. To make such generalizations is the same as saying all whites are racists or all blacks are criminals. Neither of those two statements are remotely accurate but similar in nature to your broad generalization. We can however meet on common ground in saying that some select individuals open carry to make themselves feel somehow superior to those around them. I wouldn't say that all people or even "in general" people open carry fall into this category. Some open carry simply because they cant afford to go through the concealed carry permit process. Others elect to do so based off their belief that having to possess a concealed carry permit is an infringement on the 2nd amendment and are left with no other option than to open carry as they still want to have protection for themselves.
Now that I've addressed that issue I'll move on to my next issue. I strongly detest the idea that a person who is a collector of firearms must surly be compensating "for their deficiencies" or that they can't both collect firearms and have a good life.
Side note* death stick sounds like a ridiculous made up term somebody would come up with who has a lack of knowledge involving firearms.

#62 | Posted by JacobMcCandles at 2019-09-04 12:57 PM | Reply

"I prefer people not to wag their dicks in my face.

#60 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2019-09-04 12:46 PM "

Has nothing to do with the topic, but I do agree with you.

#63 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-04 01:50 PM | Reply

The Odessa mass shooter would not have passed a background check because he was deemed mentally unfit.

He bought his AR-15 at a gun show from a private seller aka 'The gun show loophole.'

#64 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-04 02:33 PM | Reply

I wouldn't go to Walmart WITHOUT a gun. The local store here has more police calls than any other place in the whole gotdam county.

It's called Premises Liability Law... Basically it states (in all 50 states) Wal-Mart is responsible for your safety.

Consider if a disgruntled liberal mass shooter entered the store... and started shooting...

Wal-Mart would be liable because it did not provide adequate security... In fact, banning weapons (a means to protected oneself) would imply that their security force is more than adequate to protect you.

Take a look at their employee's... see anyone that looks like they could do that job?...

In a developing area of premises liability law, courts have found entities such as universities, motels, convenience stores and shopping malls liable for attacks when they did not exercise reasonable care in protecting victims. In general, a property owner must provide adequate security.

This NOT the job of the Police. Their job is to protect you on public property ONLY. Streets, Sidewalks and Public Buildings. NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY. That's the owners responsibility.

#65 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-04 04:36 PM | Reply

He bought his AR-15 at a gun show from a private seller aka 'The gun show loophole.

Lets not forget the "I made it myself" loophole...

enuff parts out on the web where anyone can make their own AK or AR style weapon... There are even kits to make your own 50 or 100 round magazines...

all untraceable...

#66 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-04 04:45 PM | Reply

"It's called Premises Liability Law... Basically it states (in all 50 states) Wal-Mart is responsible for your safety."

It's state by state, but most every state has an exclusion for guns.
parkerpoe.azurewebsites.net

D. Questions for Owners to Consider in the Context of the Open Carry Laws
1. If an owner allows guns on the premises, and has knowledge that customers have
guns in their possession, is the owner on notice of a foreseeable risk of harm?

In almost all jurisdictions, in order for a business to be liable for the harm caused by a
third party carrying a gun, a plaintiff must prove foreseeability. This inquiry looks at an owner's
knowledge of circumstances that might give rise to the crime that resulted in injury.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-04 04:50 PM | Reply

This is a very good paper.... just skimming over it but will read - thanks... off the batt...

...a plaintiff must prove foreseeability. This inquiry looks at an owner's knowledge of circumstances that might give rise to the crime that resulted in injury.

Yep - Not allowing open carry proves foreseeability circumstance in that such a crime will occur since both the customers and employees are now totally unarmed, making it a likely target...

Plus there is also history now... Walmart now has the knowledge that there is a possibility that a shooting crime will occur in one of their stores....

Walmart stores across the country have faced a stream of threats in the wake of the deadly shooting in an El Paso supercenter that left 22 people dead and 24 more injured.

The spotlight has remained on Walmart since that August 3 shooting, leading to an employee walk-out, controversy over the company's decision to continue selling firearms, and several highly-publicized store incidents, including a number that led to store evacuations and police investigations.

Some of those instances were later confirmed to stem out of misunderstandings. But other incidents involved people threatening to commit mass murder within various Walmarts across the country. Walmart did not respond to Business Insider's request for comment.

An ABC affiliate in Texas reported that an as-of-yet-unidentified masked man incited a stampede in a Houston mall after he allegedly jumped on a table and claimed that he was going to shoot himself. In the panic that ensued, police also received calls reporting shots fired in a nearby Walmart.

An unnamed 13-year-old was also arrested on suspicion of making threats against a local Walmart on Instagram, CBS Austin reported

In Florida, the FBI and local police arrested 26-year-old Richard Clayton, an alleged white supremacist who is accused of threatening to attack Walmart with an AR-15, according to local channel My News 13.

#68 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-04 06:34 PM | Reply

If you can convince a jury that the reason there was a mass shooting in a WAL*MART is because they don't allow guns in WAL*MART, you ought to join the NRA's legal team.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-04 06:41 PM | Reply

Local businesses celebrate Woke-Mart's decision.

#70 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-09-04 07:04 PM | Reply

Walmart weighed its options and opted for safety (and profits). Nobody wants to shop at a place they might be murdered. Bloody brain matter on your toasters and bath towels, even at half off list price, is often viewed as a negative.

Walmart has always attracted people interested almost exclusively in price, even at the expense of quality or American jobs. Walmart shoppers have for decades shunned the smaller shops, even if it means financial ruin for the people who go to church with them or coach their kid's Little League, to save money. Sure, their downtown shopping district is dead, but they can now watch reality shows on a 60-inch, 4K LED TV for $499 because Walmart bought 2 million of them from a factory in Guangzhou.

Now Amazon is eating Walmart's lunch with an even slimmer business model that eliminates the need to have a tolerable in-store shopping experience. At the same time, Trump is hitting China with tariffs. Combine that with years of ---------------- weirdness in their stores, from mobile meth labs to shootings, and suddenly Walmart is looking into a crystal ball (made in China) and seeing bankruptcy filings.

#71 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-04 08:33 PM | Reply

If you can convince a jury that the reason there was a mass shooting in a WAL*MART is because they don't allow guns in WAL*MART

Yes, I believe I can... I am sure a reasonable jury will see you can't have it both ways....

Can't take away a individuals method of protecting oneself and on the other hand not provide any protections for that individual.

It's an either or type of deal. You can't do both.

I'm looking at it from a liability case brought on by the surviving families against Wal-Mart... could care less about the NRA.

The cheapest solution would be to post a sign saying...

"This store's management kindly reminds shoppers that Wal-Mart is not responsible for death or injury caused by a mass shooting located within this store or it's adjoining parking lot.

Personal protection is the responsibility of shoppers themselves.

You may use what ever means necessary to protect yourself EXCEPT for a Pistol or Rifle whose use are not allowed within this store.

At Wal-Mart, We value your safety."

#72 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-04 08:37 PM | Reply

Just not very much....

#73 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-09-04 08:38 PM | Reply

"Combine that with years of ---------------- weirdness in their stores,..."

I can't say ----------------?

#74 | Posted by cbob at 2019-09-04 08:50 PM | Reply

I used to buy ammo and giant cans of beans (to shoot) from a N.C. Walmart a couple decades ago.
I wasn't local and other than a pawn shop it was the only place we knew that sold it.

Once back in NY I bought it from local gun shops or the chain sporting goods stores when it goes on super sale.

They can do what they want as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't solve/address anything, but it makes some people feel good, so there is that.

#75 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-09-04 09:24 PM | Reply

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