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Thursday, September 05, 2019

Since 2015, residents of the state of Maine have been allowed to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit, and now the results are in: crime has fallen to the point where the state is now rated the safest in the nation from the threat of crime. The Maine Examiner reports: When Maine passed a "Constitutional Carry" law allowing Maine residents to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit in 2015, opponents of the law forecast a dangerous future for the state. They said the new law would hurt public safety and put Maine kids at risk. One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work. As the Maine Examiner noted, second-ranking Vermont also has a constitutional carry law.

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Maine ranks first in the nation for public safety. Fellow New England state Vermont places second in this subcategory, followed by New Hampshire, New Jersey and Idaho. - US News and World Report

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I still think revolvers are plenty protection, with harsh penalties for semi-auto's.

Offer a buyback and get the heavy hardware off the street.

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-05 01:54 PM | Reply

the American stinker

HAHA

Maine was declared the safest back in 2014, too

in fact, between 2012 and 2014, crime decreased by 13% in Maine

and that's in the years prior to any carry legislation, stupid

this article is nothing but comfort food for gun nuts.

#2 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-09-05 02:05 PM | Reply

I'm on board with reasonable restrictions. I would even be okay with single stack semis, but I think broader controls based on muzzle energy are probably more effective.

I just thought this story would be top tier troll bait.

#3 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-09-05 02:06 PM | Reply

Bait taken! It's a big one!

#4 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-09-05 02:07 PM | Reply

#2 Did it become LESS safe after 2015, as predicted?

#5 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-09-05 02:08 PM | Reply

"now rated the safest in the nation from the threat of crime."

Now?
Neither Maine nor Vermont has ever been associated with high crime during my lifetime.

Let's look at the states at the bottom of the violent crime list: www.usnews.com
Arkansas
Tennessee
Louisiana
Alaska
New Mexico

Why don't these states have Constitutional Carry, if it will reduce crime?
Oh.. wait... some of them already do.

Now, imagine being so stupid, you attribute low crime in Maine and Vermont to Constitutional Carry, but you don't attribute high crime in Alaska and Arkansas to Constitutional Carry.

Seriously, I want you all to imagine being that stupid.

Some of y'all didn't have to imagine.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 02:19 PM | Reply

"Did it become LESS safe after 2015, as predicted?"

I would have thought that would have been the first thing to do before you started chortling "success" based on a short on details article by the American stinker.

check the statistics, lazy
a quick look shows between 2015 and 2016, aggravated assault up by 9.4% from 2015. So yes, you less safe from an assault, stupid

Math
It's a Bitch

#7 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-09-05 02:55 PM | Reply

"Now, imagine being so stupid, you attribute low crime in Maine and Vermont to Constitutional Carry, but you don't attribute high crime in Alaska and Arkansas to Constitutional Carry."

Todays "conservative" is incognent

the American Stinker put the stupid bait on the hook
and the Bait was taken

You would think they would learn by now

but they cant learn

because they have never been wrong. ever

Just ask em

Brain Damaged

#8 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-09-05 03:50 PM | Reply

Mustang, you've got some 'splainin to do!

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-05 03:54 PM | Reply

Not really. The bait was out there for a bait and switch. I gave you a hint that was the case by saying it was troll bait.

Now that you are engaged, answer the follow-ups:

Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont are politically disparate, yet all are historically safe states. Why? What attributes do those states share? Weather, geography, income/employment levels, etc? If "packing" isn't a statistically significant contributor, what is? Contrast with DC, Alaska, and New Mexico...the three least safe...if it helps.

Everyone blames or credits the gun fir the crime statistics (good or bad). I've said before that the gun isn't the problem, and I doubt it is the solution. Which begs the question - if it ain't the gun, what is it?

#10 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-09-06 10:45 AM | Reply

Seriously, I want you all to imagine being that stupid.
Some of y'all didn't have to imagine.

#6 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-09-05 02:19 PM | FLAG:

So do I need to be called Snoofy to get the full effect?

#11 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-09-06 01:16 PM | Reply

"I still think revolvers are plenty protection, with harsh penalties for semi-auto's.
Offer a buyback and get the heavy hardware off the street.

#1 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-09-05 01:54 PM"

I could live with that. My one handgun is a Ruger .44 Blackhawk revolver. I love that gun. It shoots better than any other gun in its class that I've ever shot. Though it's my only handgun, I have 2 shotguns and two rifles.

#12 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-06 01:21 PM | Reply

#10 - the quality of good 'ol New England fortitude and civility except for Massachusetts cuz..... Massachusets :-)

#13 | Posted by Sezu at 2019-09-07 07:06 AM | Reply

if it ain't the gun, what is it?
#10 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

Its the bullets..

#14 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-07 09:09 AM | Reply

Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont are politically disparate, yet all are historically safe states. Why? What attributes do those states share? Weather, geography, income/employment levels, etc? If "packing" isn't a statistically significant contributor, what is? Contrast with DC, Alaska, and New Mexico...the three least safe...if it helps.

Homogeneous populations.

#15 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-07 09:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--Homogeneous populations.

Explains Japan's low crime rate as well.

#16 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-07 09:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A little tid-bit I read a couple of weeks ago. If we subtract the homicides that occur in in five cities we drop from being in the top 10 in homicides among developed nations down to 89th. All the cities that lead these murder stats are controlled by Democrats.

#17 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-07 11:23 AM | Reply

#15 That is certainly a factor, perhaps the key factor, one that appears globally. You won't see many liberals acknowledging it, of course. It's important to be aware that the homogeneity is not merely racial, but applies to all socioeconomic factors. It is equally important to be aware that homogeneous populations are more willing to embrace social efforts they view as benefiting the entire group, of which they a part.

#18 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-09-07 04:13 PM | Reply

Jamaica has a pretty homogeneous population.
Jamaica is crawling with gun violence.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-07 04:29 PM | Reply

"If we subtract the homicides that occur in in five cities we drop from being in the top 10 in homicides among developed nations down to 89th."

In the top ten?
No dude.
We are number one, with a bullet.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-07 04:31 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by snoofy Your ignorance is showing yet again. Every country in the western hemisphere has a higher homicide rate except Canada, Russia has a rate four times ours. Every nation in Africa makes our homicide rate making ours look like progress if they could achieve that. If our African-American citizens could stop killing each other in record numbers, our homicide rate would be about the same as Canada.

#21 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-07 06:17 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by snoofy Your ignorance is showing yet again. Every country in the western hemisphere has a higher homicide rate except Canada, Russia has a rate four times ours. Every nation in Africa makes our homicide rate making ours look like progress if they could achieve that. If our African-American citizens could stop killing each other in record numbers, our homicide rate would be about the same as Canada.

#22 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-07 06:17 PM | Reply

You said "developed nations."

"If our African-American citizens could stop killing each other in record numbers, our homicide rate would be about the same as Canada."

The ZIP codes they live in probably don't qualify as "developed" either.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-07 07:23 PM | Reply

Good call though. I was thinking of gun homicides, not all intentional homicides.

Homicides per 100,000:
US is 4.90.
Cuba is barely lower at 4.70
Chile is lower at 3.60
Canada is much lower at 1.70
www.indexmundi.com

Obviously we need to rename our country to something that starts with the letter C.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-07 07:37 PM | Reply

#24 | Posted by snoofy Don't forget the state sponsored murder in Chile and Cuba, that would be worth a few points. So what you do not say is that if the numbers of homicides committed by our AA community were not counted or never occurred, our numbers would be nearly as low as Canada. 51% of homicides in this country are committed by black young men killing other young black men.

#25 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-08 12:48 AM | Reply

- 51% of homicides in this country are committed by black young men killing other young black men.

That's not a bug. See: Obama gun running; Democrat run cities

#26 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-08 01:28 AM | Reply

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