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Sunday, September 08, 2019

China's exports unexpectedly fell in August as shipments to the United States slowed sharply, pointing to further weakness in the world's second-largest economy and underlining a pressing need for more stimulus as the Sino-U.S. trade war escalates.

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Say what you want about the trade tariffs and Trump, but the are doing exactly what he intended. I see no need to continue feeding them with a $300 billion a quarter trade deficit, or allowing them continue stealing intellectual property and technology..

But of course China has cheerleaders here in the US, and we'll soon be hearing from them.

#1 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-08 11:44 AM | Reply

But of course China has cheerleaders here in the US, and we'll soon be hearing from them.

#1 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-08 1

I, too, wish that farmers would just shut-up.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 11:53 AM | Reply

I'm thinking the farm states somehow thought Trump would deal with China without ruining them.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 11:53 AM | Reply

In any case, why should Trump care about Iowa? Sod-busters; losers.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 11:54 AM | Reply

#3

So you support subsidies for soy farmers so they can weather the trade war?

It is sad how you continue to grasp at the thinnest of straws because Trump.

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-08 11:57 AM | Reply

So you support subsidies for soy farmers

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter at

Or, as the farmers call them, the Payoffs.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 12:02 PM | Reply

It is sad how you continue to grasp at the thinnest of straws because Trump.

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter

Trump has a failed presidency three years in.

And, as well know by now, he's crazy.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 12:05 PM | Reply

It is sad how you continue to grasp at the thinnest of straws because Trump.

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter

Trump has a failed presidency three years in.

And, as we well know by now, he's crazy.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 12:06 PM | Reply

#6

Ok, regardless of what you want to call them, do you support them while the trade war is going on?

You seem sooo concerned about them, or are you just looking for another reason to keep polishing your handcuffs...

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-08 12:06 PM | Reply

You seem sooo concerned about them, or are you just looking for another reason to keep polishing your handcuffs.

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter a

Are more reasons even needed?

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 12:07 PM | Reply

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do you support them (subsidies) while the trade war is going on?

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-08 12:06

Sure.

But we both know most of that money is going to rich people.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 12:08 PM | Reply

Framers are something Donald Trump will never be-pragmatic.

If he doesn't bring home the bacon (and I mean REALLY bring it home) in the next year I can think of at least three states he won't carry this time.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 12:10 PM | Reply

Let me ask you a question. No snark here at all. Trying to plumb the depths of Trump's "mind". Does the president actually understand that some people support themselves by farming?

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 12:12 PM | Reply

The operant word here is "support". Does Donald Trump understand what it is when someone supports themselves?

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 12:13 PM | Reply

Comrade Xi to the Central Committee:

"Comrades, do we wait out Trump and try to get a doormat Democrat elected, or make a deal with Trump? If a Dem isn't elected we're in deep schiit."

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-08 12:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

##10-14

TDS at its finest

#16 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-08 12:39 PM | Reply

#16

Trump is insane. Sorry. I didn't cause it. Something to do with a florid Personality Disorder and unlimited resources to express it.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-08 12:50 PM | Reply

"I'm thinking the farm states somehow thought Trump would deal with China without ruining them.

#3 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2019-09-08 11:53 AM"

That's pretty naive. A war always has casualties on both sides.

#18 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-08 03:42 PM | Reply

Zed needs some zen. maybe in tablet form.

#19 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-08 07:17 PM | Reply

The made up Russia collusion is are that more funny given the present and past Democrat collusion with the Chinese. Unlike the Russians, the Chinese are attempting to interfere in our elections and the Democrats and their media cronies are doing everything they can to undermine our country and our president - because at the end of the day - they don't mind the US being de-industrialized as long as they have power. The Dems want to do to the rest of the nation what the did to Detroit and the the Chinese are helping them along the way.

Trump should set up wire-taps on the DNC to ensure that not a single dollar is sent from China and that Biden's son does not influence the platform after his $1B Chinese pay-off.

#20 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-08 07:17 PM | Reply

"Zed needs some zen. maybe in tablet form.
#19 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM"

Zed just needs a woman. The INCEL lifestyle is driving him insane. We should start a go fund me to send him to TJ or Bangkok.

#21 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-08 07:19 PM | Reply

Trump should set up wire-taps on the DNC...

Why not just break in to the DNC HQ? What could possibly go wrong?

#22 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-09-08 07:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

I'd like the NSA to set up wire-taps on both the DNC and the RNC.
We should know what's going into our politics.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-08 07:29 PM | Reply

"Why not just break in to the DNC HQ? What could possibly go wrong?
#22 | POSTED BY REDIAL "

Why break in and risk getting caught? Obama already set the precedent that all you need for a FISA warrant is completely unverified speculation. They should cite my posting here and go to the FISA court. With Biden's kid getting $1B in Chinese money and the Chinese clearly invested in Trump losing, that should be enough - Thanks Obama!

#24 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-08 08:22 PM | Reply

LOL.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-09-08 08:25 PM | Reply

"I'd like the NSA to set up wire-taps on both the DNC and the RNC.
We should know what's going into our politics.
#23 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

I would like the NSA to keep tabs on your browser history.

#26 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-08 08:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"I would like the NSA to keep tabs on your browser history."

You mean they aren't already?
What the hell are we paying these guys for!

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-08 10:01 PM | Reply

I should add in response to this actual article:

"China's exports unexpectedly fell in August as shipments to the United States slowed sharply"

Unexpected by whom? It is clear that the tariffs will lower exports. China is imploding.

#28 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-09 09:16 AM | Reply

"China's exports unexpectedly fell in August as shipments to the United States slowed sharply"
Unexpected by whom? It is clear that the tariffs will lower exports. China is imploding.

#28 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

China exports to the United States fell. Our exports to them also fell even more.

China's total exports for 2019 are down 1%. Imports are down 5.6%. Their Trade Surplus actually grew.

They are doing exactly what we wanted to do with the trade war: decrease imports and keep exports steady if we can't grow them.

READ the article.

IRAGOLDBERG is imploding.

#29 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-09-09 02:06 PM | Reply

"They are doing exactly what we wanted to do with the trade war: decrease imports and keep exports steady if we can't grow them.
#29 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT"

You are clueless about China. China is imploding as their domestic market has evaporated, manufacturers are moving to other SEA countries, and their US exports are shrinking. This was a 3% shortfall from analyst expectations - and China cannot survive even with flat or low growth - they need to sustain growth rates or 6%+ AND transition out of construction as the primary driver for their GDP to pay off their massive debt.

EVERY durable goods category in China is plummeting - cars down 20% YoY, cell phones shrinking, computers shrinking, and now housing prices outside the T1 cities are seeing rapid declines and T1 cities have leveled or began falling.

Go ahead and bet on China - you are playing a losing hand.

#30 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-09 08:04 PM | Reply

If you back someone into a corner, they'll come out fighting in a way you didn't expect. And they'll win.

Always give your opponent a way to retreat and save face. They'll almost always take the way out.

If Trump doesn't give China a way out by Christmas, China is going to get hungry and restless. They might see no other choice but to start a real BANG BANG SHOOT'EM UP war. That's why Nixon opened the West to the Chinese in the 60's.

When people get the grub bellies, they get desperate and do desperate things, to fed the need. When addicts get sick, you always help the addict our in jail. Give them your oranges and citruses do they can cut the "Jonesing" in half. Or they'll get desperate and attack you in your sleep. Eating is an "addiction" one can't help.

Starve a person, they'll attack in desperation, either they'll die trying or beat your head in and take your piece of bread.

#31 | Posted by Goose_Boils at 2019-09-09 11:31 PM | Reply

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