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Monday, September 09, 2019

Next year, for the first time in several years, North Carolina voters will cast ballots in races with fairly drawn legislative maps that offer all voters a full voice in their future.

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And how many Republican voters who post here were absolutely fine with election theft and still are as long as it benefits your own party?

Come on, own up. If you were ok with the things the Republican Party did during the last three decades then you are just as guilty as they are.
Despicable is a term that describes you whether or not you are honest enough to admit it.
This country is going to overthrow the Republican grip on our elections, and we'll probably pack the courts to overthrow your hold on them too. And then we'll get back to being America again.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-09 10:12 AM | Reply

#1:
"And how many Republican voters who post here were absolutely fine with election theft and still are as long as it benefits your own party?"...Danni

Guessing most of them. Those who still post are nearly all of the "better Russian than Democrat" 'Putin wing' of the Republican party.

#2 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-09-09 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

North Carolina is an example of taking gerrymandering way too far...and the courts made the right decision.

#3 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-09 10:21 AM | Reply

Better Russian Than Democrat explains an awful lot of nasty things.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-09 10:55 AM | Reply

You idiots need to stay out of NC. Our state is fine and the only reason districts were redrawn was because Democrats had redrawn them before to benefit their base. Democrats saw that NC is a conservative, red state and now they are trying to fight it. The central cities are trying to have outsized voting power to try and shut up the conservative majority.

It wont work and we will get that snake Cooper out of the governors mansion next election. His time is limited.

Danni,

You live in Florida, not NC, mind your business.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 11:34 AM | Reply

"You idiots need to stay out of NC. "

Just answer one question:

If the majority of voters cast their ballots for Republicans, should Democrats then hold the majority? Yes or No?

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-09 11:45 AM | Reply

"The central cities are trying to have outsized voting power"

They pay for the state; most revenue comes from the central cities. Why shouldn't the folks footing the bill have the say?

"You live in (fill in the blank), not NC, mind your business."

Nonsense. As long as NC Congressional Districts are affecting national politics in ANY way, it's everyone's business.

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-09 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6,

Danforth,

If you are talking at the local level, yes.

National, No..

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 11:48 AM | Reply

"If you are talking at the local level, yes."

I'm talking at the State level. If over half vote for Republicans, should Democrats be in control?

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-09 11:49 AM | Reply

As long as NC Congressional Districts are affecting national politics in ANY way, it's everyone's business.

That's why the national government should have the smallest amount of influence on local people as possible.

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 12:00 PM | Reply

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If over half vote for Republicans, should Democrats be in control?

Your question is flawed due to your ideology.

The American People should be "in control". There should be enough negotiation to appease both sides in any issue.

If the negotiation is not there, nothing should happen.

#11 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 12:01 PM | Reply

"That's why the national government should have the smallest amount of influence on local people as possible."

Okay...but back to reality: If over half of NC voters cast their ballots for Republicans, should Democrats be in control?

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-09 12:02 PM | Reply

"Your question is flawed due to your ideology. "

More like your answer is flawed due to it.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-09 12:02 PM | Reply

If over half of NC voters cast their ballots for Republicans, should Democrats be in control?

He won't answer this.

When gerrymandering cements minority control in favor of Reublicans, Boaz calls it "protecting the minority from the tyrrany of the majority." When the converse happens, he just flails and flails.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-09 12:15 PM | Reply

"I'm talking at the State level. If over half vote for Republicans, should Democrats be in control?"

how do state elections currently work in NC?

It isn't a popular vote? like for governor or other positions at the state level that are voted on?

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-09 12:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#15,

Yes they are Eberly.

If over half of NC voters cast their ballots for Republicans, should Democrats be in control?

Again, it's a loaded question.

Over half/majority of NC voters said they didnt want a grown man in a dress walking into a woman's bathroom, did that win out?

#16 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 12:25 PM | Reply

This is stupid.

Gerrymandering is wrong no matter the State, whether it is GOP Gerrymandering in NC and Wisconsin or Democratic Gerrymandering in Maryland and New Mexico.

Everyone should be in agreement with that basic point.

#17 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-09 12:29 PM | Reply

"Your question is flawed due to your ideology."

My question is If one side gets more votes, should they win?

"It's a loaded question"

(sigh)
There you have it, folks: as Republican ideas begin to lose at the ballot box, don't look for Republicans to eschew their failed ideas; look for them to eschew Democracy.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-09 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Over half/majority of NC voters said they didnt want a grown man in a dress walking into a woman's bathroom"

No they didn't.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-09 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No, they didnt

The Public Facilities Privacy & Security Act, commonly known as House Bill 2 or HB2, is a North Carolina statute passed in March 2016 and signed into law by Governor Pat McCrory. The bill amended state law to preempt any anti-discrimination ordinances passed by local communities, and compelled schools and public facilities containing single-gender washrooms to only allow people of the corresponding birth-certificate sex to use them.

Yes they did.

#20 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 12:55 PM | Reply

In polls, residents of rural communities are more supportive of the law than those in urban areas.[250] One poll in April 2016[248] and another in May[251] found that 56% of North Carolinians supported the provision barring transgender people from using bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity.

#21 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 12:57 PM | Reply

It was passed by a Gerrymandered House, Boaz.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-09 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"One poll in April 2016[248] and another in May[251] found that 56% of North Carolinians supported the provision barring transgender people from using bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity."

^
That's not the same as voting for it.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-09 12:58 PM | Reply

it's a loaded question.

Describing the actual existing circumstances in your state with the party affiliations flipped is not a "loaded question," it's just a question you don't want to answer.

#24 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-09 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Everyone should be in agreement with that basic point."

Funny, then, how no Republican Supreme Court appointees are in agreement with your basic point, yet all Democrat Democrat Supreme Court appointees are.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-09 01:18 PM | Reply

"North Carolina is an example of taking gerrymandering way too far...and the courts made the right decision."

Isn't any gerrymandering taking gerrymandering way too far???
I don't like it when Democrats do it either and I recognize that we have. It's just wrong no matter who does it.

And Snoofy's #25 post tells it like it is.

"One poll in April 2016[248] and another in May[251] found that 56% of North Carolinians supported the provision barring transgender people from using bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity."

I remember when higher numbers than that thought you should use the bathroom that your race was directed to use. Times change, bigots learn, laws change, I always support progress towards a just society. Telling transgender people to use the bathroom of their birth gender is just a form of hatred and discrimination to express that hatred.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-09 01:44 PM | Reply

"I remember when higher numbers than that thought you should use the bathroom that your race was directed to use."

#MAGA

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-09 01:45 PM | Reply

-Isn't any gerrymandering taking gerrymandering way too far???

one man's redistricting is another man's gerrymandering..it's a matter of degrees.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-09 01:49 PM | Reply

it's just a question you don't want to answer.

No, it's a difference of opinion.

I dont see the question as "who", IE, which party or ideology rules, I see it as the citizens of NC rules. See, in NC, there may be democrats who would side with me many times over your ideas, even though they are democrats. See, they are truly moderate. And it's the other way around. We do here in NC agree more than not, it's only with outsider liberals like Danni that always cause issues.

And it's a stupid question.

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 02:04 PM | Reply

Telling transgender people to use the bathroom of their birth gender is just a form of hatred and discrimination to express that hatred.

Hatred? Are you kidding me?

It's more like the Transgender hating what nature made them physically.

#30 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 02:05 PM | Reply

Boaz, you don't hate the thought of a man in a dress entering the little girl's room and molesting them?

I don't believe you.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-09 02:08 PM | Reply

"it's only with outsider liberals like Danni that always cause issues."

Translation:
Go back where you came from!

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-09 02:09 PM | Reply

No, it's a difference of opinion.

You haven't shared your opinion because you reuse to answer the question, so you can't call it a "difference of opinion."

We all know where you stand on whether Republicans should have a legislative majority with a statewide minority of votes. The question is whether you would feel the same way about gerrymandering if Democrats had a legislative majority with a statewide minority of votes.

Me? I'm against partisan gerrymandering period. Are you?

#33 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-09 02:14 PM | Reply

You haven't shared your opinion because you reuse to answer the question, so you can't call it a "difference of opinion."

It's actually a matter of perspective.

and I have shared my opinion, it's just you have ignored it.

#34 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 02:40 PM | Reply

The question is whether you would feel the same way about gerrymandering if Democrats had a legislative majority with a statewide minority of votes.

I would say gerrymandering is BS.

I'm against partisan gerrymandering period. Are you?

yes..

#35 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 02:41 PM | Reply

Even if it puts Democrats in charge of North Carolina?

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-09 02:44 PM | Reply

Even if it puts Democrats in charge of North Carolina?

Sure.

#37 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-09 02:53 PM | Reply

"And how many Republican voters who post here were absolutely fine with election theft and still are as long as it benefits your own party?"

As a sometime Republican voter, a sometime Democratic voter, and sometime third party voter, I am against any type of voting malfeasance. I believe in fair elections.

#38 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-09 06:35 PM | Reply

there are voting issues everywhere, dead people voting, etc, Hillary screwing Bernie over etc....ballot boxes appearing with dem votes etc, the list is endless....and how is the new district lines fair, what makes them fair? I don't pretend to understand the logic/reasoning. redistricting occurs all over this country when a different party wins, Repub or Demo

#39 | Posted by scooter28054 at 2019-09-11 11:23 AM | Reply

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