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Wednesday, September 11, 2019

President Donald Trump could be defeated in Texas, a conservative state which has not elected a Democratic presidential candidate for over 40 years.

The Latino vote could be decisive. A large majority of Hispanics (69%) surveyed in the state said they intend to vote for the Democratic candidate, compared with 19% who plan to support Trump (also including undecided voters who are leaning one way or another).

Senator Bernie Sanders would win the state (48% against 42%). Similarly, former Vice President Joe Biden would win the state (47% to 43%), and the same would happen with Senator Warren (44% to 42%).

The favorability of Biden and Sanders has increased significantly, another sign that their leadership has consolidated among potential Hispanic voters. Sanders went from 59% before the first debate to 67% today. Biden went from 56% to 64%. The survey also found a favorable growth of Senator Elizabeth Warren, from 44% to 53%.

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So all those big belt buckled, ten gallon hatted, tobacco chewing, CCW packing, duel rear-wheel four door pick-up driving manly men Texans are now on board with the Jewish Brooklyn born Democratic-Socialist from Vermont.

Luv it ~

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-11 09:53 PM | Reply

Yes, Donald Trump could be defeated in Texas because there are millions here hoping to expiate past sins with new and better deeds.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-11 09:53 PM | Reply

And polls showed Hillary would be president hours before the only poll that counts opened.

So who cares what univision polls show? Who cares what any polls show?

#3 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-11 10:02 PM | Reply

So who cares what univision polls show? Who cares what any polls show?

#3 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Okay, so Bernie gets multiple applause for his policy answers in a Fox News Townhall in GOP red-state WV ...

Now this poll shows he'd beat Trump in big, bad, red-state TX.

We're not talking Cali and Washington State, we're talking TWO blood-red Republican states that make the ghost of Ronnie Reagan weep with envy ... we're talking about a self-proclaimed Democratic-Socialist doing VERY Well in places a Democratic-Socialist is NOT SUPPOSED to do well.

How do you account for that?

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-11 10:10 PM | Reply

So who cares what univision polls show? Who cares what any polls show?

#3 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Exactly. I don't put much stock in general election polls this far out. We are just starting primary season. Let's see how polling looks after both parties have had their conventions. Further, even from there it's a long slog to voting day and a ton can still happen to move the needle in any direction.

#5 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-11 10:13 PM | Reply

it's a long slog to voting day and a ton can still happen to move the needle in any direction.

#5 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

You know what's a long slog?

Working and middle-class voters getting squeezed like hell economically -- the issues Bernie advocates for are not going away.

#6 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-11 10:19 PM | Reply

Working and middle-class voters getting squeezed like hell economically -- the issues Bernie advocates for are not going away.

#6 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

Well, if you are reading the tea leaves correctly, he has a good shot at winning the primary. We'll see. The primary itself is in its infancy and a lot can happen between now and January which is when the Democrat field will winnow for real.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-11 10:23 PM | Reply

-How do you account for that?

Nobody has hammered sanders yet.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-11 10:25 PM | Reply

Loaf,

Do you know what 'they' say about predictions and --------?

Everyone has one.

My track-record for predictions is meh. I've gotten some right. I've also failed spectacularly - I was fully convinced that Obama would issue a mass-pardon to all illegal immigrants (which would have been Constitutional, BTW). So, I have gotten a lot more careful which is why I've kept my powder dry on this investigate the investigators thing that is underway.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-11 10:27 PM | Reply

Nobody has hammered sanders yet.

#8 | POSTED BY EBERLY

That is VERY true. Not even in the nascent primary. Biden and Harris have been the targets. Gabbard so effectively knee-capped Harris that I am not sure she will recover.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-11 10:28 PM | Reply

Nobody has hammered sanders yet.

#8 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Bernie's been constantly smeared by the media since he first declared in 2015 ...

Why does Bernie have sustained popularity?

Because he's right on the issues.

And these issues like wealth inequality and healthcare are not going away. In fact, they're bigger than Bernie, which he admits.

#11 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-11 10:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Nobody has hammered sanders yet.
#8 | POSTED BY EBERLY

That is VERY true.
#10 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Bullshht.

The media has painted him as socialist, unable to do math and promising free stuff to anyone who will listen.

They started attacking him and socialism in 2015 and haven't stopped since.

What new smears are left to attack him with?

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-11 10:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Because he's right on the issues.

Of course he is, he keeps flip flopping

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-11 10:36 PM | Reply

#12 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

The media was 100-times kinder to him than they've been to any Republican candidate in my lifetime.

He wasn't savagely pilloried by the media in '16, he was downplayed.

He mounted less of a challenge to Clinton in '16 than she did to Obama in '08.

Fact is, he has yet to face the really nasty negative campaign-crap as a viable candidate.

It's foolish to discount that.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-11 10:41 PM | Reply

he has yet to face the really nasty negative campaign-crap as a viable candidate.

Well. Go for it. Let's hear your knockout punch. Where has the media pulled it's punches with Bernie.

All that I know for sure is you hate Bernie. You're very biased against him.

That's on you.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-09-11 10:54 PM | Reply

-Bernie's been constantly smeared by the media since he first declared in 2015 ...

Uh....no....he's been treated awesome compare to whet he'll Face If nominated.

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-11 11:01 PM | Reply

-What new smears are left to attack him with

Sorted past, never had a real job, no real record in senate, those ideas he'll have to explain in greater detail, etc

That alone took me 30 seconds.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-11 11:03 PM | Reply

-Why does Bernie have sustained popularity?

Because he hasn't been hammered yet.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-11 11:04 PM | Reply

I don't think there will be any new attacks on Bernie, but all the old attacks will be consolidated and amplified tenfold by Trump and the GOP. They'll do this to whoever the Dem nominee is.

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-09-11 11:08 PM | Reply

The media has painted him as socialist, unable to do math and promising free stuff to anyone who will listen.

All of which are historically accurate.

Next.

#20 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-11 11:10 PM | Reply

-I don't think there will be any new attacks on Bernie

Even if he is the nominee?

I believe the GOP has a treasure trove of stuff you've never seen on Bernie. They haven't needed to use it yet, but they have it.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-11 11:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I believe the GOP has a treasure trove of stuff you've never seen on Bernie. They haven't needed to use it yet, but they have it."

I was thinking they would use stuff that has been out there but not widely seen up to this point, but you could be right. Bottom line: Whatever they have, they will use relentlessly. This applies to anyone the Dems nominate of course.

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-09-11 11:20 PM | Reply

-Bottom line: Whatever they have, they will use relentlessly.

There is a thread on the mean republicans in NC

LOL....that is NOTHING compare to the gang rape sanders will endure

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-11 11:24 PM | Reply

#23 Trump to Democratic nominee: Just lay back and enjoy it, because I'm going to. Hmm, your post made me realize just how much Trump does enjoy going on the attack.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-09-11 11:30 PM | Reply

LOL....that is NOTHING compare to the gang rape sanders will endure

Posted by eberly

He has no idea ... I can hear the attack ads now:

(cue dark music)

"He's an admitted socialist who spent his honeymoon in Russia. Do we really want a socialist in the White House?"

#25 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-11 11:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Headline correction:

Biden, Sanders and Warren lead Trump in new Univision News poll of Texas

#26 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-11 11:43 PM | Reply

Castro and Harris lead Trump in this poll too ...

But it would be grossly unfair to Trump if he should lose TX, wouldn't it? After all, he's bent over backwards to win Hispanic support by speaking highly of them, listening to their desires and addressing them compassionately, ensuring Puerto Rico is well taken care of, etc etc.

It would simply be unfair for Hispanics in TX to turn their backs on Trump after all he's done for them!

#27 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-12 12:00 AM | Reply

And there is Trumps land grab for his wall.. not making alot of friends there.
I will laugh the rest of my life if Bernie beats Trump in Texas

#28 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-09-12 06:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Sorted past, never had a real job, no real record in senate, those ideas he'll have to explain in greater detail, etc

That alone took me 30 seconds.

#17 | POSTED BYEBERLY

Take out the Senate part, and you just described Trump.

And Trump never had to explain anything in greater detail in his 2016 run.

The economically squeezed people who handed Trump the presidency don't care about the old traditional political parameters -- they want someone to speak to them about their problems, and Bernie does that in spades.

#29 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-12 07:36 AM | Reply

Bernie Sanders: "I believe that Texas can go blue"
www.expressnews.com

AUSTIN -- Bernie Sanders brought his anti-Trump road show to South by Southwest Friday on the way to San Antonio and Lubbock, proclaiming that Texas can turn blue if Democrats are willing to put in a phenomenal amount of work to make it happen.

QFT

#30 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-12 07:49 AM | Reply

Poll Shows Bernie Sanders Beating Trump in Texas by Nearly 5 Points

gritpost.com

Data from the University of Texas at Tyler's Center for Opinion Research (COR) shows that while not all members of the Democratic field have the power to flip the state, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) very well could.

Sanders and Biden win by the same margin in the poll (both at 4%), but in a Trump-Sanders match-up there are fewer undecided voters than in a Trump-Biden match-up.

This means that Sanders actually pulls a bigger share of Texan votes than Biden does.

And those undecided numbers are significant across the board " never lower than the 20% in the Trump-Sanders hypothetical. That could dramatically shift the outcome of any of the polls COR conducted.


QFT

#31 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-12 08:01 AM | Reply

Sanders got kicked out of a commune in the '70's for being too lazy.

QFT

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-12 09:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It should be noted that Bernie was for tariffs before Trump was but I think he would have more carefully targeted them.

#33 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-12 10:46 AM | Reply

"Take out the Senate part, and you just described Trump.
And Trump never had to explain anything in greater detail in his 2016 run."

Exactly....The GOP doesn't require that.

so, why don't you get Bernie to try and switch to the GOP and get their nomination?

because the democratic party has a way of requiring more from a candidate that the GOP does.

ridiculous.....

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-12 01:58 PM | Reply

-The economically squeezed people who handed Trump the presidency don't care about the old traditional political parameters -- they want someone to speak to them about their problems, and Bernie does that in spades.

No, Bernie is going to hit with a spade if he tries to talk to actual republicans in Texas.

I don't know who the ---- they polled in Texas...but it's bullshcitt.

no way Bernie wins Texas if he's the nominee.

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2019-09-12 02:00 PM | Reply

#35

Mostly Rio Grande Valley I presume.

#36 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-12 02:41 PM | Reply

I don't know who the ---- they polled in Texas...but it's bullshcitt.

no way Bernie wins Texas if he's the nominee.

#35 | POSTED BYEBERLY

Hillary beat Bernie handily in the 2016 Texas Dem Primary. But did you know the rural counties Bernie did win heavily vote GOP in general elections?

Now there's no Hillary, and Bernie's message is spreading out allover Texas.

#37 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-13 07:39 AM | Reply

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