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Tonyroma: President Donald Trump has left the impression with foreign officials, members of his administration, and others involved in Iranian negotiations that he is actively considering a French plan to extend a $15 billion credit line to the Iranians if Tehran comes back into compliance with the Obama-era nuclear deal.

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The deal put forth by France would compensate Iran for oil sales disrupted by American sanctions. A large portion of Iran's economy relies on cash from oil sales. Most of that money is frozen in bank accounts across the globe. The $15 billion credit line would be guaranteed by Iranian oil. In exchange for the cash, Iran would have to come back into compliance with the nuclear accord it signed with the world's major powers in 2015. Tehran would also have to agree not to threaten the security of the Persian Gulf or to impede maritime navigation in the area. Lastly, Tehran would have to commit to regional Middle East talks in the future.

At the G7 meeting in Biarritz, France last month, Trump told reporters that Iran might need a "short-term letter of credit or loan" that could "get them over a very rough patch."

Looks like another attempt for Trump to gain a foreign policy win. It'll be interesting to see if the administration can pull off any type of deal competently since the world watches Trump everyday too, just like we're forced to.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-09-11 10:25 PM | Reply

Jesus Christ.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-11 10:30 PM | Reply

Trump is mentally ill. Fracking off his rocker.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-11 10:32 PM | Reply

Jesus Christ.

#2 | POSTED BY ZED

What can I do for you?

#4 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-11 10:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Stop thinking you're funny.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-11 10:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

15 billion to get Iran to go back to an agreement Trump reneged on.

Stable genius.

#6 | Posted by YAV at 2019-09-11 10:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

Looks like another attempt for Trump to gain a foreign policy win. It'll be interesting to see if the administration can pull off any type of deal competently since the world watches Trump everyday too, just like we're forced to.
#1 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

I'll admit that I am caught off-guard by this.

#3 and #4

Jeez, Zed. This is awfully similar to the approach Obama took toward Iran. You're not required to disagree with everything he does 100% of the time.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-11 10:36 PM | Reply

#5 Again, credit is where it's due. That was the perfect response to my "question".

#8 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-11 10:37 PM | Reply

#7

Was it just five weeks ago Trump turned back an air strike on Iran with order already given?

Insanity. Donald Trump drools with madness and those who wipe his chin are worse.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-11 10:41 PM | Reply

Trump is going to end badly. Too much gasoline and too much mindless will to burn.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-11 10:49 PM | Reply

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So much Winning!:

Josh Marshall @joshtpm

So trump considering giving Iran $15 billion line of credit if they're come back into compliance with the deal Obama negotiated and which they were complying with until he tore up the dealing. I can't stand the winning.

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-09-11 11:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"15 billion to get Iran to go back to an agreement Trump reneged on.
Stable genius"

Trump's MO is to make some situation worse and then swoop in a pretend to fix it.

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-09-11 11:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is awfully similar to the approach Obama took toward Iran.

Yeah. Too bad Obama didn't actually put it into action before Trump became president, without having to give Iran an additional $15 billion.... Oh....

We're now considering giving Iran a bailout to get them through the damage caused by our sanctions which we put on them after [Trump] tore up a deal the US had agreed to and all to get the Iranians to come back into the deal.

So a huge, colossal screw up for no purpose at all.

Yep.

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-09-11 11:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Jeez, Zed. This is awfully similar to the approach Obama took toward Iran. You're not required to disagree with everything he does 100% of the time.

#7 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Obama intentionally broke it just to "fix" it and claim a win?

You didn't think that through, did you?

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 08:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Serious question to any Trump supporter: what does Donald have to do to prove to you that he's not all there? Is the sky the limit or is there something, anything, that might scare you?

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-12 08:53 AM | Reply

This would actually be funny - they get a $15B line of credit but then lose more than that every year as the price of oil plummets on the deal.

#16 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-12 09:45 AM | Reply

What will be funny is watching those who gnashed their teeth over Iran getting "pallets of cash" defend Trump giving them $15 billion that's not theirs.

Republicans are a joke.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

What will be funny is watching those who gnashed their teeth over Iran getting "pallets of cash" defend Trump giving them $15 billion that's not theirs.
Republicans are a joke.

POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-09-12 10:03 AM | REPLY

Bears repeating.

#18 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-09-12 10:13 AM | Reply

What will be funny is watching those who gnashed their teeth over Iran getting "pallets of cash" defend Trump giving them $15 billion that's not theirs.
Republicans are a joke.

#17 | POSTED BY JPW

Trump "flirts" with a lot of things.

I am not going to get all worked up into a lather unless it actually happens.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-12 10:14 AM | Reply

Obama intentionally broke it just to "fix" it and claim a win?
You didn't think that through, did you?

#14 | POSTED BY JPW

Obama gave away everything including the kitchen sink just to get a so-called "deal" and claim a win.

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-12 10:15 AM | Reply

What will be funny is watching those who gnashed their teeth over Iran getting "pallets of cash" defend Trump giving them $15 billion that's not
#17 | POSTED BY JPW

Obama gave them $150B AND had to promise the Saudis that we would not sue them over 9/11 if they didn't block the deal. Worst deal in US history. Thankfully the stain of Barry is almost erased from history.

That said, we should do a deal with Iran. They are a good counter-balance to the Sunni nutjobs.

#21 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-12 10:16 AM | Reply

Obama gave away everything including the kitchen sink just to get a so-called "deal" and claim a win.

#20 | Posted by JeffJ

LOL such as?

When you're done explaining that put the goalposts back where they were. Thanks.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:25 AM | Reply

JeffJ, hottip.....

Given left the impression with foreign officials, members of his administration, and others involved in Iranian negotiations that he is actively considering a French plan to extend a $15 billion credit line to the Iranians if Tehran comes back into compliance with the Obama-era nuclear deal.

Why do you even believe this thread?

If Trump does what is proposed, then we can have this discussion, until then let the mindless drones have their outrage of the day on another lie ...

#23 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-12 10:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Obama gave them $150B AND had to promise the Saudis that we would not sue them over 9/11 if they didn't block the deal. Worst deal in US history.

Obama didn't "give them" anything. It was returning frozen assets.

www.factcheck.org

If Trump follows through, they will actually be giving money to Iran.

Thankfully the stain of Barry is almost erased from history.

LOL you pathetic old fool.

You support a POTUS that's the equivalent of the GOP rubbing it's butt on the Oval Office carpet.

Your opinion is meaningless.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Obama gave away everything including the kitchen sink just to get a so-called "deal" and claim a win.

POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-09-12 10:15 AM | REPLY

Horse Apples.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-09-12 10:28 AM | Reply

until then let the mindless drones have their outrage of the day on another lie ...

#23 | Posted by AndreaMackris

As a prolific liar I'd expect you to know that this isn't a lie.

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:28 AM | Reply

LOL such as?

A possible terrorist bombing ....

Obama's inept response to Cafe Milano bomb plot 'emboldened' Iran
www.washingtonexaminer.com

#27 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-12 10:30 AM | Reply

Also Jeff, why do you call it a "so called deal" when Trump seems to be moving towards making a "new deal" that's basically the same thing?

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:31 AM | Reply

As a prolific liar I'd expect you to know that this isn't a lie.
#26 | POSTED BY JPW

I can tell its a lie by the words used.

Regarding me being a "liar", I don't lie, I back most of my posts up with links.

Unlike you as well, I am not a rage-a-holic.

#29 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-12 10:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump seems to be moving towards making a "new deal" that's basically the same thing?

More lies ...

'We'll see what happens,' Trump says about possible easing of Iran sanctions
www.reuters.com

#30 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-12 10:33 AM | Reply

Also Jeff, why do you call it a "so called deal" when Trump seems to be moving towards making a "new deal" that's basically the same thing?
POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-09-12 10:31 AM | REPLY

Because Obama.

#31 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-09-12 10:34 AM | Reply

"Obama didn't "give them" anything. It was returning frozen assets.
#24 | POSTED BY JPW "

Before the Obama deal, Iran did not have access to $150B. After, they did have access to $150B. Define that as you will but 'gave' is an accurate description.

#32 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-12 10:34 AM | Reply

Also Jeff, why do you call it a "so called deal" when Trump seems to be moving towards making a "new deal" that's basically the same thing?
#28 | POSTED BY JPW

Obama's deal was hot garbage. As I already said, Trump floats all sorts of stupid ideas. I'll call it out if he actually follows through. For now, it's just talk and idle speculation.

#33 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-12 10:34 AM | Reply

Also Jeff, why do you call it a "so called deal" when Trump seems to be moving towards making a "new deal" that's basically the same thing?
POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-09-12 10:31 AM | REPLY
Because Obama.

#31 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Learn how to read and comprehend.

#34 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-12 10:35 AM | Reply

Obama's inept response to Cafe Milano bomb plot 'emboldened' Iran

First of all, the Washington Examiner. LOL

Second, according to one person in their book.

Third, "inept response" was a refusal to go to war.

Nice try, but it's a fail.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:35 AM | Reply

I can tell its a lie by the words used.

Regarding me being a "liar", I don't lie, I back most of my posts up with links.

It's the internet. You can provide a link to support anything.

The links you provide are usually garbage, just like your lying posts.

Liar.

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:36 AM | Reply

Before the Obama deal, Iran did not have access to $150B. After, they did have access to $150B. Define that as you will but 'gave' is an accurate description.

#32 | Posted by iragoldberg

Returning something to somebody who already owns it isn't "giving" them anything.

Opening a $15 billion line of credit is giving them something. Stop dodging the point, terrorist coddler.

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

National Review??? Seriously???

#4 | Posted by LauraMohr

Daily Beast??? Seriously???

#38 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-12 10:38 AM | Reply

Obama's deal was hot garbage.

You can restate it all you'd like. Doesn't make it true.

So please, share your ME and diplomacy expertise with us lowly drudgers and explain what you mean.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:39 AM | Reply

If Trump does what is proposed, then we can have this discussion

#23 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Right now we're having the discussion on the insane thing that is proposed. After we'll have the discussion on the insane that is done.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-12 10:41 AM | Reply

"Opening a $15 billion line of credit is giving them something. Stop dodging the point, terrorist coddler.
#37 | POSTED BY JPW "

Could they spend the $150B before the Obama deal? Maybe to make the word games go away, I can re-phrase as Obama 'gave them BACK $150B'.

#41 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-12 10:42 AM | Reply

$15 Billion for Iran after the Fat Nixon bitched about Obama giving them $1.8 billion.

#42 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-09-12 10:43 AM | Reply

Keep trying, terrorist coddler.

Would you be fine giving them $15 billion?

#43 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:43 AM | Reply

Also, if you read the link I posted you'd know the $150 billion figure is a fabrication from our Liar in Chief, the Orange Schittstain.

Best estimates are it was $50 billion of frozen assets released from various banks.

I seem to remember the pallets of cash hysteria claiming $45 billion flown in on military cargo planes in the dead of night.

You guys can't even keep your lies straight anymore...

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:45 AM | Reply

At the G7 meeting in Biarritz, France last month, Trump told reporters that Iran might need a "short-term letter of credit or loan" that could "get them over a very rough patch."

Another example of why should we believe the words coming out of Illegitimate President Bucket of ----- mouth when we have DR experts here on his thought process.

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-09-12 10:46 AM | Reply

Best estimates are it was $50 billion of frozen assets released from various banks.
#44 | POSTED BY JPW

That is a straight up lie. Some of the assets were illiquid, but it was in the range of $125 - $150B.

#46 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-12 10:51 AM | Reply

That is a straight up lie. Some of the assets were illiquid, but it was in the range of $125 - $150B.

Funny, all I can find is explanations of how that number is a lie from Trump's twitter feed.

Do you have one confirming it's true?

www.apnews.com

www.washingtonpost.com

Also, it seems your claim is dependent on the same word game that giving something back to it's owner is paying them.

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-12 10:58 AM | Reply

Trump's going to pay Iran to do what they were already doing before and his gaggle of morons will actually claim he did something good.

#48 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-12 11:09 AM | Reply

... actively considering a French plan to extend a $15 billion credit line to the Iranians if Tehran comes back into compliance with the Obama-era nuclear deal. ...

Wouldn't it have been a whole lot easier, in so many ways, if Pres Trump had not pulled out of the agreement in the first place?

Is this why Pres Trump was thinking about meeting with Iran's Pres Rouhani?

Trump says he could meet with Iranian President Rouhani
www.reuters.com

#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-12 02:39 PM | Reply

Trump has a history of doing this. Start a fire, put it out, blame the fire on someone else and take credit that it's out.

Iran was abiding by the nuclear agreement. Trump threw a match.

#50 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-12 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump's MO is to make some situation worse and then swoop in a pretend to fix it.

Exactly!!! Furthermore, his offer to the other side will be to restore only what he made worse if they improve the position he held prior to the negotiation as was the case with DACA. He took DACA away and then told the dems that he would give it back if they gave him money to build his wall! What kind of effin deal is that? Only a effin moron would accept such a deal. Only a disingenuous moron would offer it.

#51 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-09-13 05:53 AM | Reply

Thankfully the stain of Barry is almost erased from history.

That said, we should do a deal with Iran. They are a good counter-balance to the Sunni nutjobs.

#21 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

So your plan is to rewrite history and remove any evidence of a black president named Obama?

Good luck with that!

We had a deal with Iran. A good deal. Not a great deal but a good deal. We RETURNED their assets. (gave is NOT accurate)then Trump broke the deal.

Now Iran does not trust Trump. With good reason. NOBODY trusts Trump.

Our President is a Freakin Fat Ass Liar.

12, 000 lies and counting...

#52 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-09-13 12:48 PM | Reply

Regarding me being a "liar", I don't lie, I back most of my posts up with links.
Unlike you as well, I am not a rage-a-holic.
#29 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

You hardly ever do that.

And when you do, they are usually out of date or don't say what you claim they do.

Case and Point: Your link to Mattis saying Obama's inept response to Cafe bombing threat emboldened Iran.

Mattis said this in 2013. This was after Obama fired him.
www.politico.com

2 years later "emboldened" Iran gave up their nuclear program in a deal with the US and our EU allies.

It wasn't until Trump broke the deal that Iran started disregarding it too.

There's a reason Mattis came out with a book now. He's been fired by TWO administrations now and needs the money.

But hey, if you think Mattis is right in going to war with Iran, we would love to hear our explanation!

#53 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-09-13 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

fuggin BASTE
How dare iranians, who've not attacked anyone for hundreds of years, put their country in between all our military bases?

#54 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-09-14 06:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yeah sure Humpy. That is such a better deal that what we had.

What a Deal from Donnie Dunderbutt!

When we are done with that can we please Nuke a Hurricane?

Can we? Huh?

#55 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-09-14 12:37 PM | Reply

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