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Anyway.... WHAT THE FRAK are these people doing that they are identified as Arabs or Muslims?

They can't stop eating falafels and shwarma in front of everyone? They can't stop jabbering in Arabic? They wear muslim/jewish skull caps?

What?

When it comes to identifying other ethnicities or other nationalities, Americans are the dumbest... nobody comes close.

So how did they know your brother was arab or mommy was... ok mommy would be easy if she is stupid enough to go out in a burka/heehawjab....

Nobody mistakes me for an Arab (and I'm not).

Just wondering what went wrong.

#1 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-14 06:26 AM | Reply

Our country is full of extreme alt-right (R)tarded racist *ricks!

#2 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-09-14 08:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They also think Sikhs are Muslims. Duh.

#3 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-09-14 09:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

who would have ever thought there would be any backlash?

#4 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-09-14 10:33 AM | Reply

They also think Sikhs are Muslims. Duh.

Yes. Wearing a damfool turban will get you targeted... even though 99% Muslims don't wear one. LOL

What else makes one a target?

An accent? Walking funny? Asking for a raise? What?

#5 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-14 11:25 AM | Reply

Who killed more Americans: German or japanese or Muslims. I fully realize that those wars are history and not part of our present experience but somehow many here think it is ok to make a case that Muslims are evil. We need to somehow differentiate between Muslim extremist and normal Muslims just like we need to differntiate between aerage Christians and White Nationalists.
Peronally I feel just as safe among Muslims as I do among White Nationalists.
Actually, I feel less safe among white nationalists.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-14 11:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#4 911 was backlash.

#7 | Posted by bored at 2019-09-14 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When you hate crime a religion, aim for your own skin color so it's not racist.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-09-14 05:53 PM | Reply

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg, Islam is not a race. I have no problem with people prostrating themselves five times a day, after they go through their obligatory washing, but I refuse to pay them for the two hours they spend during work hours doing so. I don't care if they say Allah Akbar 120 times, but that isn't the rub. If Islam was just a religion there would be no problem. Islam is also a government, a legal system, and a military order. Ignore that fact at your own peril.

#9 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-14 06:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"government, a legal system, and a military order."

I am pretty sure all the Abrahamic faiths can find a way to accommodate all that stuff too.
I mean... Zionist much?

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-14 07:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 | Posted by snoofy, You mean Jews? As far as I have seen Jews do not enforce Mosaic law, like the punishment for adultery being stoning. Islamist on the other hand do. I guess you missed the death penalty stuff that Islamist gleefully enforce now.

#11 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-14 07:37 PM | Reply

"Anyway.... WHAT THE FRAK are these people doing that they are identified as Arabs or Muslims?"

We identify you by smell, that way blind people can hate you too.

#12 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-09-14 07:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"You mean Jews? "

No, I mean Zionists. The ones who claim they have a right to Israel "from the river to the sea," which includes the West Bank and Gaza.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-14 09:31 PM | Reply

We identify you by smell, that way blind people can hate you too.

Sure champ.. sure.

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#14 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 12:18 AM | Reply

but I refuse to pay them for the two hours they spend

A prayer takes 5 minutes, not 2 hours.

But then you can no longer tell what is reality and what is a part of your imagination after you got bested by Muslims and got away with permanent brain damage. LOL

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Just reminding people (in your own words), what you are all about.

#15 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 12:22 AM | Reply

I guess you missed the death penalty stuff that Islamist gleefully enforce now.

And then there are fates worse than death...

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#16 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 12:23 AM | Reply

#16 | Posted by J_Tremain- Nope, I survived and eventually thrived.
#15 | Posted by J_Tremain- It is better to live with injury and misfortune than to be one who has never took a risk or faced danger in his life, such as yourself.

#17 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-15 07:50 AM | Reply

Are their "horrific" stories as bad as the stories of people jumping to their death to avoid burning to death?

#18 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-15 07:59 AM | Reply

religion itself is the anathema of reason but islam is a patriarchal governance citing divine bona fides as its' right to power.

NO ISLAM. Period.

#19 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-09-15 08:29 AM | Reply

#19 | Posted by 1947steamer, I have read the Koran a few times starting in '93 when I was on levee for Desert Storm. What I gleaned was Mohammad was not a nice guy. He was a prophet who never made a prophecy. He had convenient revelations, such as when he married his adopted son's wife. He simply outlawed adoption. He was a warlord, who butchered those who surrendered. He was a slaver. He was a rapist. He was a child molester. He was suicidal. He was a law unto himself. He tortured. He ordered assassinations. He was a thief. As far as it goes, if he was correct, and every thing he said about Deity was true, let me be dammed. I don't want to have any part of his god Allah. I would be more comfortable in hell.

#20 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-15 09:01 AM | Reply

#15 | Posted by J_Tremain BS, do you even know what is required in the obligatory Islamic prayers? Sunrise, mid morning, noon, mid afternoon, and sunset? Hell, the washing takes about 20 minutes. The recitation takes another 20. Learn some facts. Have you ever even been in a Mosque? Ever read the Koran? Ignorance is no excuse.

#21 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-15 09:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

NO ISLAM. Period.

No CONVICTS. Period.

#22 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 10:26 AM | Reply

Yeah... it's sooooo obvious now....

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#23 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 10:28 AM | Reply

Are their "horrific" stories as bad as the stories of people jumping to their death to avoid burning to death?

In other words, you feel justified in taking revenge from people who had nothing to do with anything?

And who will you take revenge for Building 7, from?

How did you stop yourself from killing every Lebanese person after those gajillion Marines died in Beirut? What worked for you then should work for you now.

#24 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 10:33 AM | Reply

I would be more comfortable in hell.

#20 | Posted by docnjo

Feeling comfortable right now, are we? LOL

"Hell is what we make of our lives"

#25 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 10:36 AM | Reply

"In other words, you feel justified in taking revenge from people who had nothing to do with anything?"

Some people did something.
The real victims were burned alive. I will shed my tears for the real victims. F**k the perpetrators.

#26 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-15 11:25 AM | Reply

There were 19 perpetrators. There are 1.8 Billion muslims. You want to blame all of them?

Ok, let's blame all white people for the genocide of the indigeneous population of North America. And slavery, by the way. Blaming individuals for the behavior of an entire population is fun!

#27 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-09-15 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You want to blame all of them?"

Naaah just the ones that cheered as our people jumped to their death.

#28 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-15 12:34 PM | Reply

the ones that cheered as our people jumped to their death

Did that really ever happen outside of Trump's imagination?

#29 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 01:03 PM | Reply

And since you are into imaginary scenarios, does your hate extend to those Israelis who were watching from nearby, hi-fiving each other when the planes hit?

#30 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 01:05 PM | Reply

Anyway, seeing this thread, I got my answer to "what do these people do to set off a racism feeding frenzy"?

The answer is, "they were around dumb people and they thought these dumb people were friends or something".

America is full of dumb people who will pin anything on anyone who isn't white enough, I guess. See this thread itself. LOL

Thank you.

#31 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 01:08 PM | Reply

"America is full of dumb people"

Are you an isis recruiter?

#32 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-15 01:21 PM | Reply

"the ones that cheered as our people jumped to their death"

^
Victim narrative.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you an isis recruiter?

The article and the responses in this very thread prove it.

I don't need to work for ISIS (gawd forbid!) to see that America is full of dumb and angry people.

Elected Trump did you not? LOL

What could be dumber and angrier than THAT?

#34 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 01:37 PM | Reply

"Victim narrative"

^^ America hater

#35 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-15 01:54 PM | Reply

"America hater"

^
Also a victim narrative

You're good at this!

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 01:55 PM | Reply

"What could be dumber and angrier than THAT?"

Voting for madam Klithorn.

#37 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-15 01:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You're good at this!

LOL thanks

#38 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-15 01:56 PM | Reply

It's not a compliment, but at least you seem to acknowledge what you're doing!

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I know what it is. I'm settin here watching the Bills thump the Giants and playing here.

#40 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-09-15 01:59 PM | Reply

Personally I feel just as safe among Muslims as I do among White Nationalists.

That's because you dont live in a majority muslim nation.

#41 | Posted by boaz at 2019-09-15 02:30 PM | Reply

She also doesn't live in a majority white nationalist nation...

Maybe you missed the point.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 02:57 PM | Reply

Our BOAZ be like traumatized...

#43 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-15 03:02 PM | Reply

I am a Muslim.
It takes me about 3 minutes to make wudu (ritual washing) before each prayer.
It takes me about 5 minutes to make each of my five obligatory daily prayers.

I've been coming to this site for a while.
I have had to correct the poster known as Docjno many times.
He has made many false and exaggerated claims about Islam and Muslims for some time.

He has his religion and I have mine. But you will never EVER find me lying about his religion.

#44 | Posted by expectingreign at 2019-09-15 04:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And to counter any false claims that Muhammad never made a true prophecy I would offer this" Once upon a time Muhammad was the only Muslim in the world. He predicted that there would be a time when Islam would spread across the earth and be the dominant religion of humanity. Quite a boast coming from a single human being without any political or military power living out in the middle of some forsaken desert.

There are now over 2 billion Muslims on the Earth, behind only the religion of Christianity, which had a 700 year head start.

In this year of 2019, 1400 years after his death, you may take Muhammad's bold statement as a false prophecy, but, based on current birth rates and global trends, I would urge you to perhaps wait 700 years (or even 100) to possibly re-evaluate that conclusion.

#45 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2019-09-15 04:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Posted by expectingreign Seems your brothers in Iraq couldn't do it in less than 40 minutes. Muslims in America must use the express line.
Now answer some questions
1. Did Mohammad consummate his marriage with Alisa when she was nine years old? If so Mohammad was a child molester.
2. Did Mohammad force his adopted son to divorce his wife so he could marry her, among nine other wives? Then outlaw adoption in Islam?
3. Did Mohammad torture?
4. Did Mohammad own and sell slaves?
5. Did Mohammad execute prisoners?
6. Did Mohammad raid towns and caravans and divide the booty among his men? Seems that makes him a thief.
We will see if you have an answer.

#46 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-15 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I've been coming to this site for a while.
I have had to correct the poster known as Docjno many times.
He has made many false and exaggerated claims about Islam and Muslims for some time.

He has his religion and I have mine. But you will never EVER find me lying about his religion.

#44 | Posted by expectingreign

He's an incurious dude who regularly spouts nonsense. Some of us educate ourselves and are knowledgeable about what we speak of. He is not typically in that group.

#47 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-15 06:32 PM | Reply

There were 19 perpetrators. There are 1.8 Billion muslims. You want to blame all of them?

Most of them from Saudi Arabia.

We didn't go to war with them or demand they cease teaching hatred towards the West in Wahabbi schools. Hmmm.

#48 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-15 06:33 PM | Reply

Some of us educate ourselves and are knowledgeable about what we speak of.

Some only learn from one end of the rifle.

#49 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-09-15 06:55 PM | Reply

Understanding that it is no use directly answering or debating someone who has shown a decade-long predilection for spreading false information on Islam on this website, I defer to the scholarly answers at muslim.org for the typical questions Docjno obviously has his own satisfactory answers for.

#50 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2019-09-15 07:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#50 | Posted by ExpectingReign

Following 9/11, I bought a copy of the Koran and read it 3 times in a row in an effort to gain at least a small amount of understanding of Islam I didn't possess previously. I only had a history, going back to my teens, of knowing quite a few Muslims, all of them who I liked greatly. Religion never played a role in our relationships.

Anyway, nowhere in the Koran did I find the justifications for violence espoused by those who commit violence in Islam's name, many of them not even aware Muhammad was married to a Jew, Safiyya.

Christians have and have had our own share and long history of people who've justified violence and genocide by using arcane verses in the Old Testament in direct opposition to what the name of Christianity taught.

I think God cries over the atrocities that mankind has committed in His name.

#51 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-15 07:26 PM | Reply

"I think God cries over the atrocities that mankind has committed in His name.

POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY "

God allegedly made humanity, so he needs to blame himself. God blaming humanity is like me blaming the cookies I burned in the oven.

#52 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 07:27 PM | Reply

namesake of Christianity ...

#53 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-15 07:35 PM | Reply

#47 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY Don't dodge the questions I posed, like ExpectingReign. Hint, he doesn't have any answer that would make his ongoing crime syndicate called Islam look good. The foundation of Islam is built upon sand. Such as do Infidels or women have civil rights under Islamic law?

#54 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-15 07:43 PM | Reply

"God blaming humanity is like me blaming the cookies I burned in the oven"

When you made the cookie dough was free-will an ingredient in your recipe?

#55 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-09-15 07:59 PM | Reply

"When you made the cookie dough was free-will an ingredient in your recipe?

#55 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER "

I'm making some crispy oatmeal cookies right now AAMOF. And yes, it calle for 3/4 cup of free will.

#56 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 08:03 PM | Reply

ExpectingReign and other Muslims .... please don't get correct this DOCJOJO clown about his fake history lesson on Islam, Koran, Mohamed, etc.

I don't want him learning something right. I like my infidels stupid. And brain damaged.. which he is. LOL

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#57 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-16 01:05 AM | Reply

do Infidels have civil rights under Islamic law?

Do you have any under your own law???

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Didn't protect you from getting raped all over the place, did your laws? LOL

A guy who has been brain damaged (which he blames some random Muslims for... Muslims who had every right to defend themselves).... a guy who has been raped by his dad since forever.... a guy who admits he is suffering from PTSD.... a guy who is not educated even to high-school level (he admits it and his terrible spellings and grammar prove it)... He still doesn't get how the US military loves dumb people that it can use as cannon-fodder.

At least I am glad he can use the RETORT as part of his therapy to vent against Islam or whatever enemy it was that ---- into his omelet.

Go join BOAZ in the corner... he comes here for PTSD therapy too.. what a coincidence! LOL

#58 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-16 01:14 AM | Reply

Did Mohammad consummate his marriage with Alisa when she was nine years old?

Yeah he married Alisa Milano. Now she is mother of all Muslims.

Amazing, what?

#59 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-16 01:21 AM | Reply

when she was nine years old

More like 16-17.. but hey.. you have every right to your sick fantasies... Most pedos become that way.. and have these sick fantasies... because they themselves were raped at an early age.

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Mister "I was raped when I was 6"...

You are SO easy to tear up and tear down. LOL

#60 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-09-16 01:25 AM | Reply

#60 | Posted by J_Tremain Such an easy target huh? Never underestimate those who have been torn down by circumstance and violence and still have the strength to build themselves anew. May you soon have the opportunity to prove your inner strength, or more likely, your lack of it.
Did anyone address my questions about the practice and doctrines of Islam? Not once.

#61 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-16 08:54 AM | Reply

#60 | Posted by J_Tremain According to the most reliable Hadithes, and her own testimony, Aisha was 6 when she was married and 9 when her marriage was consummated. Bukhari vol.5 book 58 ch.43 no.236 p.153. Bukhari vol.7 book 62 ch.60 no.88 p.65 Sahih Muslim vol.2 book 8 ch.548 no.3309 p.715-716 Sunan Abu Dawud vol.2 book 5 ch.700 no.2116 p.569, and a couple of dozen more early references to these apparent facts.
Was a 53 year old man having sex with a 9 year old acceptable in that culture? I know of no other if this is so.

#62 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-16 09:15 AM | Reply

This conversation is so stupid. You are arguing about a relationship that occurred 1500 ------- years ago!

1500 years ago, back when the average life expectancy for people was under the age of 40 (except, of course, for all those biblical prophets who lived to age 900), when a girl had her period she was ready to get married and get pregnant. I've read that even nowadays, girls can get their period at 9 years of age and younger, so there you are. Nothing about child molestation applies in what back then was simply a matter of biology and cultural normalcy.

My guess is that most 9 year olds back then were much more mature physically and mentally than most grown women and men nowadays. It certainly applies some morons on this thread.

I remember the same argument being made about Rebecca in the Bible, who, based on many instances in Jewish tradition, was 3 years old when prophet Isaac doinked her. This one kid just wouldn't let it go. He was pretty retarded anyway-- he was a sociology major and ended up becoming a girl a few years later. Oh well, his choice.

#63 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-09-16 09:49 AM | Reply

#63 | Posted by NerfHerder That wouldn't be a problem if this was the only thing questionable Mohammad did, but unfortunately, this is typical. The mother of Jacob and Esau being 3? Who is your source? Joseph Smith? (another false prophet)

#64 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-09-16 11:53 AM | Reply

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