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Saturday, September 14, 2019

"Our democracy's ideals were false when they were written." I've been struggling with that sentence " the opening statement of the NYT Mag's 1619 Project on the legacy of slavery in America: hHow can an enduring "ideal" " like, say, freedom or equality " be "false" at one point in history and true in another?

You could say that the ideals of universal equality and individual liberty in the Declaration of Independence were belied and contradicted in 1776 by the fact of slavery, but that's very different than saying that the ideals themselves were false. (They were, in fact, the most revolutionary leap forward for human freedom in history.)

Clearly, the Times is now engaged in a project of reporting everything through the prism of white supremacy and critical race theory, in order to "teach" its readers to think in these crudely reductionist and racial terms. It's as much activism as journalism, ideology masquerading as neutral scholarship.

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But the NYT chose a neo-Marxist rather than liberal path to make a very specific claim: that slavery is not one of many things that describe America's founding and culture, it is the definitive one. And that is propaganda, plain and simple.

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The NYT's argument that the "true founding" was the arrival of African slaves on the continent, period, is a bitter rebuke to the actual founders and Lincoln. According to the NYT, America is not a messy, evolving, multicultural, religiously infused, Enlightenment-based, racist, liberating, wealth-generating kaleidoscope of a society. It's only white supremacy, which started in 1619, and that's the key to understand all of it. America's only virtue, in this telling by the Times, belongs to those who have attempted and still attempt to end this malign manifestation of white supremacy.

I don't believe most African-Americans believe this, outside the elites. They're much less doctrinaire than elite white leftists on a whole range of subjects. I don't buy it either " alongside, I suspect, most immigrants, including most immigrants of color. Who would ever want to immigrate to such a vile and oppressive place? But it is extremely telling that this is not merely aired in the paper of record (as it should be), but that it is aggressively presented as objective reality. That's propaganda, directed, as we now know, from the very top " and now being marched through the entire educational system to achieve a specific end. To present a truth as the truth is, in fact, a deception. And it is hard to trust a paper engaged in trying to deceive its readers in order for its radical reporters and weak editors to transform the world.

Sullivan is 100% correct on this, and it is depressing that the Times has to sink to this level.

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-14 04:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As we get closer to the election we will see more and more over-reach by "rich progressive" media.

The only hope to stop the overreach, IMO, is for them to solidly lose the election, if they should win, or its even close .... well this becomes the norm.

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-14 04:26 PM | Reply

Also this thread goes hand in hand with my thread about raising kids in the culture war.

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-14 04:27 PM | Reply

#3

Agreed, and it is all part of Dean Baquet's admitted "pivot to racism."

Both the NYT and WashPo can't get over the fact that their "anointed" candidate lost to Donnie Little Hands, and they are increasingly desperate to rectify that mistake.

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-14 04:46 PM | Reply

--Also this thread goes hand in hand with my thread about raising kids in the culture war.

The Long March Through the Institutions has succeeded beyond its dreams. They have the schools, higher education, including the journalism schools that supply the MSM with young know-nothings, publishing, the entertainment complex, social media, all the levers of cultural production and power. It's brilliant. Instead of the proletariat seizing the factories, the means of production, as orthodox Marxist theory called for, the progressive, entitled, urban left, children of privilege, seized the means of cultural production and are implementing a top-down revolution.

#5 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-14 05:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5

It really doesn't matter from whence the revolution comes, if the middle class buys into it, it will succeed.

#6 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-14 07:27 PM | Reply

It really doesn't matter from whence the revolution comes, if the middle class buys into it, it will succeed.

#6 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

While Sullivan is right about the NYT morphing into a meaningless rag that people don't care about anymore (my words, but I agree with his premise) ...

Sullivan is totally wrong about what middle-class people care about.

There's merit to saying ordinary Americans are turned off by the Left's representation of some culture war issues -- but what Sullivan misses that ordinary Americans are WAY more concerned about concrete economic issues of healthcare, wages, etc. -- the culture wars that Sullivan cares so much about are nothing more than a back-drop to the economic issues that actually sway the ordinary voters that actually decide elections.

Just the idea of some bass boat purchasing/working American would ever care so much about what the NYT has to say is just so freaking hilarious -- no offense.

#7 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-14 09:11 PM | Reply

#7

Sullivan is totally wrong about what middle-class people care about.

There's merit to saying ordinary Americans are turned off by the Left's representation of some culture war issues -- but what Sullivan misses that ordinary Americans are WAY more concerned about concrete economic issues of healthcare, wages, etc.

LOL, talk about missing the point:

Sullivan is decrying the The Long March and the NYT's newfound pivot to racism precisely because it deflects from "concrete economic issues of healthcare, wages, etc." that are baseline issues of...wait for it...the middle class.

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-14 11:22 PM | Reply

*crickets*

-The DR Left

At least Pinch had the cojones to try to take a stab at this.

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-15 11:33 AM | Reply

-- the NYT's newfound pivot to racism

And now they are reviving their smear campaign against Kavanaugh. This is a despicable leftwing propaganda rag. I wouldn't believe a word the NYT printed about anything.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-15 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

They should be sued, especially given the fact that he's a SCOTUS, its intimidation.

Harris is calling for his impeachment now ...
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#11 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-15 11:46 AM | Reply

"it is all part of Dean Baquet's admitted "pivot to racism."

At least Pinch had the cojones to try to take a stab at this.

#9 | POSTED BYRIGHTOCENTER

Isn't the very hairy Andrew Sullivan, Bigfoot, and Teen Wolf all related to each other?

You mentioned the NYT's pivot toward racism, which I agree that that's what Establishment Democrats would rather focus on, and are happily using prestige media like the NYT to advance that narrative ...

But look what happened today in the old Gray Lady, an op-ed by Thomas Frank on class and class warfare ...

Thomas Frank: Meritocracy is driving America's Class Divide
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In that same Dean Baquet interview you're referencing, Baquet also mentioned that the NYT would cover class in America -- I see Frank's op-ed as a good first step.

#12 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-15 12:55 PM | Reply

As we get closer to the election we will see more and more over-reach by "rich progressive" media.

Except right-wingers like yourself have ALWAYS thought and said that since the rise of right-wing media in the 1990s.

#13 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-15 01:09 PM | Reply

Activism isn't journalism. But I've noticed how desperate they've become for subscribers...

begging me for $1 dollar a week. like a panhandler.

#14 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-09-15 01:25 PM | Reply

Your self image is a lie. Which certain people know anyway.

#15 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-09-15 08:53 PM | Reply

I can't even believe what a pile of dung the NYT has become. It's supposed straight-news reporting reads like a left-wing op ed.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-16 10:35 AM | Reply

The NYT is like "Counterpunch" for a more upscale-class of privileged, urban leftists.

#17 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-16 10:44 AM | Reply

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