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1,500 college students polled -- and the issues are more important to them than the ridiculous idea of "electability".

There's 20 million college students in America, and over 60% of them are committed to voting in the primaries.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-14 09:37 PM | Reply

#1

21% of college age students voted in 2016 elections, 31% voted in 2018 midterms.

Primary votes drop off by 60% for this age group.

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-14 09:45 PM | Reply

Damn, I forgot to put the video up -- oh well, I'm very sure they'll be a next time when Bernie will be at the top.

#3 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-14 09:51 PM | Reply

There's 20 million college students in America, and over 60% of them are committed to voting in the primaries.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf

Republican controlled states have made it difficult for college students to vote where they go to school.

#4 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-14 09:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Primary votes drop off by 60% for this age group.

#2 | POSTED BYRIGHTOCENTER

If I had a billion dollars I'd create a ginormous fleet of uber and lyft vehicles and drivers, akin to Patton's 3rd Army drive across France in 1944 ... to drive every --------- college kid to the primary polls.

#5 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-14 09:57 PM | Reply

"There's 20 million college students in America, and over 60% of them are committed to voting in the primaries.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf"

Committing and doing are two different things. It is well known that democrats are less likely to go to the polls, even if they tell pollsters they are. I would imagine a savvy pollster accounts for this.

Republicans are more likely to be energized and get to the polls when their guy looks like he might lose.

#6 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 10:01 PM | Reply

"Republican controlled states have made it difficult for college students to vote where they go to school.

#4 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY "

Citation needed. This sounds like an AU ass-fact

#7 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 10:02 PM | Reply

""Republican controlled states have made it difficult for college students to vote where they go to school."

Let's hope so. Those dumbasses can't find their rear end without a smartphone.

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-14 10:04 PM | Reply

"Those dumbasses can't find their rear end without a smartphone."

Do they get to live tax-free as well, or do you want their money, just not their voice?

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-09-14 10:09 PM | Reply

@#6 ... Committing and doing are two different things....

That is one of the most difficult analysis tasks of the pollsters... who, exactly, is going to be The Likely Voter that the pollster is concerned about.

It is almost a catch-22 situation.

In order to know who the likely voter might be, the pollster has to know the prevailing opinions and ~energy~ behind those opinions.

In order to know that, the pollsters need to put polls out in the field.

In order to analyze those results ....

Wash, rinse, repeat...

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 10:21 PM | Reply

@#8 ... Those dumbasses ...

Children are messages we leave to a time we will never see.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 10:22 PM | Reply

It is well known that democrats are less likely to go to the polls, even if they tell pollsters they are. I would imagine a savvy pollster accounts for this.

#6 | POSTED BYGOATMAN

That is a generality that only applies to midterms, and that was not the case with Dem turnout last year.

The pollster explains that he's factoring in if those polled are actually committed to voting.

#12 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-14 10:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That is a generality that only applies to midterms, and that was not the case with Dem turnout last year.
The pollster explains that he's factoring in if those polled are actually committed to voting.
#12 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF "

Actually, that was one of the many things Hillary blamed her loss on. But OK. It's Hillary, so I'll take it with a grain of salt.

Good luck to you!

#13 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 10:29 PM | Reply

Actually, that was one of the many things Hillary blamed her loss on. But OK. It's Hillary, so I'll take it with a grain of salt.

Good luck to you!

#13 | POSTED BYGOATMAN

Actually, I'm right -- Hillary had 3 million more votes than Trump.

Also, Dems had more votes in 2018 than Repubs, but that's beside the point.

Good luck to you making yourself [yet again] the center of the universe when it comes to what other people want to call themselves.

#14 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-14 10:38 PM | Reply

@#7 ... Citation needed. ...

It's a little dated as I don't currently have the time to spend more than a few seconds in duckduckgo.com...

College Students Denied Voting Rights (2012)
aspanational.wordpress.com

...New Hampshire, among other Republican states, has already passed strict voting ID laws that will bar thousands of college students from voting in the community in which they live and attend school. New Hampshire Republican House Speaker, William O'Brien, in a recent speech to a Tea Party group stated, "They're foolish, voting as liberals. That's what kids do." He also stated, "Students lack life experience and they just vote their feelings."...

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 10:46 PM | Reply

#15 Thank you for the link. I don't fully agree (what college student doesn't have an ID? I though colleges issued them) but I appreciate you taking the time to post it.

#16 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 10:50 PM | Reply

what college student doesn't have an ID?

Agreed, I mean you at least need to prove you live in the area to vote there right? I understand a bill will allow, but if living in a home ... seems pretty liberal to allow just a CollegeID.

I though colleges issued them

When you pay your fees .... :)

#17 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-14 10:56 PM | Reply

@#16 ... what college student doesn't have an ID? ...

I think the strategy then of the Republicans, aligns with the current strategy of the Republicans in this area.

To quote again from the article I cited:

...It has become apparent that an objective of the Republican Party is to restrict the voting rights of certain demographic groups that tend to vote Democrat. One way of achieving this is stop college students from voting by claiming that stricter ID laws are necessary to prevent fraudulent voting. Unfortunately, with the severe federal penalties imposed on fraudulently voting there are hardly any cases to cite....

I've noted numerous times here on this august message board that the Republicans seem to be quite afraid of people voting.

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 10:56 PM | Reply

#15 Thank you for the link... but I appreciate you taking the time to post it.

#16 | POSTED BYGOATMAN

Why are you so incapable of looking things up yourself?

#19 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-14 10:58 PM | Reply

Just raise the voting age to 25. That should take care of most of these residency questions.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-14 11:01 PM | Reply

@#17 ... mean you at least need to prove you live in the area to vote there right? ...

According to the quote of the New Hampshire Republican House Speaker, living in a community is not enough. If you are foolishly voting as a liberal, that seems to be enough of a reason for Republicans to prevent you from voting.

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 11:04 PM | Reply

It isn't just about ID. Some Republican states have declared out of state students can't register to vote there. Others say that they can only vote in the state where their cars are registered. And so on.

#22 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-14 11:04 PM | Reply

Republicans don't want college students to be able to vote. And they'd implemented a variety of laws and regulations to prevent them from doing so.

#23 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-14 11:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#20

... Just raise the voting age to 25. That should take care of most of these residency questions.

So... in order to stop college students from voting in a manner that Republicans do not like, you propose preventing them from voting?

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 11:07 PM | Reply

"It isn't just about ID. Some Republican states have declared out of state students can't register to vote there. Others say that they can only vote in the state where their cars are registered. And so on.

#22 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY AT 2019-09-14 11:04 PM "

It makes sense. Why should a resident of another state be able to cast a vote for the governor of another? And if the student is deemed to actually be a resident in the state he goes to school, then he shouldn't be paying out of state tuition, right?

It was like that in the military, too. That's why god created mail in ballots on the 8th day.

#25 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 11:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I don't fully agree (what college student doesn't have an ID?"

In Texas, a college ID is not sufficient to vote.

Here is a list of the acceptable forms of photo ID: www.votetexas.gov
Texas Driver License issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)
Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
Texas Personal Identification Card issued by DPS
Texas Handgun License issued by DPS
United States Military Identification Card containing the person's photograph
United States Citizenship Certificate containing the person's photograph
United States Passport (book or card)

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-14 11:10 PM | Reply

"So... in order to stop college students from voting in a manner that Republicans do not like, you propose preventing them from voting?
#24 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER "

Do you feel a student who is a legal resident of Oklahoma should be able to vote for a US senator from Texas simply because he goes to UT? If so, does he forfeit his right to vote for a US Senator from Oklahoma? Seems that gives an advantage to the student to be able to vote for two US Senators, who may be the same party if the student is a party line voter. No one else has that right.

#27 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 11:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Do you feel a student who is a legal resident of Oklahoma should be able to vote for a US senator from Texas simply because he goes to UT?"

I'm not sure about this scenario.
Does he, like, live most of the year in Oklahoma or Texas?
Is UT just over the state line, so it could be that he lives in Oklahoma while attending school in Texas?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-14 11:17 PM | Reply

"Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS"

Costs nothing and is easy to get. Can be had online or by mail.

What's the problem?

#29 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 11:18 PM | Reply

"Does he, like, live most of the year in Oklahoma or Texas?
Is UT just over the state line, so it could be that he lives in Oklahoma while attending school in Texas?

#28 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

That would be settled on whether he pays in or out of state tuition. If he pays out of state, he is not a resident of that state.

#30 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 11:19 PM | Reply

Costs nothing and is easy to get. Can be had online or by mail.

What's the problem?

#29 | POSTED BYGOATMAN

You can't even look up things youself on google -- you need facts, sources, and citations handed to you on a silver platter.

#31 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-14 11:25 PM | Reply

@#25 ... Why should a resident of another state ...

What is the residency law for the state in which the student attends college?

If the college student lives in the state for the [usual?] six month residency requirement, then why can that student not vote?

#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 11:27 PM | Reply

"You can't even look up things youself on google -- you need facts, sources, and citations handed to you on a silver platter.
POSTED BY PINCHALOAF"

Deflection noted.

Let's try again:

The Texas voter ID osts nothing and is easy to get. Can be had online or by mail.

What's the problem?

#33 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 11:27 PM | Reply

"If the college student lives in the state for the [usual?] six month residency requirement, then why can that student not vote?
#32 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER "

Then he would not be paying out of state tuition.

I would imagine paying out of state tuition pretty much concurs the student is not a resident of the state. If he is he (or his parents) is a fool for paying so much extra tuition.

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 11:29 PM | Reply

@#27 ... Do you feel a student who is a legal resident of Oklahoma should be able to vote for a US senator from Texas simply because he goes to UT? ...

That depends upon the residency laws in effect for Texas.

If those laws require a six month residency and the student meets that residency requirement, then why not?

aside: while I appreciate all these deflection attempts, let us not skim over the stated goal of these voting restriction laws.

To once again requote the article I cited above:

...New Hampshire Republican House Speaker, William O'Brien, in a recent speech to a Tea Party group stated, "They're foolish, voting as liberals. That's what kids do." He also stated, "Students lack life experience and they just vote their feelings."......

There is little doubt that the New Hampshire Republican House Leader wants to stifle votes by those who do not vote how he wants them to vote.

All this other stuff that is being raised is a sideshow.

Plain and simple, Republicans leaders want to prevent the voting of those who do not vote in a manner they want.

This is not the only example. This is yet another example.

#35 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 11:34 PM | Reply

@#34 ... Then he would not be paying out of state tuition. ...

The level of tuition paid is different than voting rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

Different laws, different qualifications.


#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 11:36 PM | Reply

"while I appreciate all these deflection attempts,..."

You mean talking about college voting on a thread about post debate polling of Democratic presidential candidates?

Sorry.

#37 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 11:38 PM | Reply

"The level of tuition paid is different than voting rights guaranteed by the Constitution.
Different laws, different qualifications.

#36 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER "

Then in my scenario a student would be able to vote for two US senators if he met residency requirement in Texas because of his school, yet claimed Oklahoma as his home.

This obviously can't be allowed and my guess is that there are special residency requirements for students. I don't know that for a fact, but it makes sense since a student should not enjoy the privilege of voting in two different states.

#38 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-14 11:42 PM | Reply

@#38 ... Then in my scenario a student would be able to vote for two US senators if he met residency requirement in Texas because of his school, yet claimed Oklahoma as his home. ...

The ability to vote for your representatives where you live should not be dependent upon the possible abuses of the voting system.

Two separate issues.

#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-14 11:49 PM | Reply

"If he pays out of state, he is not a resident of that state."

Incorrect.
You're a resident of whatever state you spend more than half the year in.
That's all, nothing else.

Tuition for in-state and out-of-state is based on the state of residence when you applied to school.
In some states, you can start as out-of-state and the convert to in state, by living there.

But the important thing here is Goatman is looking for ways to disenfranchise students, and okay with all the ways he finds.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 12:04 AM | Reply

"But the important thing here is Goatman is looking for ways to disenfranchise students, and okay with all the ways he finds.

#40 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-09-15 12:04 AM "

Oh dear. Snoofylyinggames...again.

I guess you chose not to take my suggestion on being honest for just one week to see if you liked it or not.

Why do you lie so much, snoofy? Is making a point that important to you -- even though you know you will be called out on the lie it is based on? I don't get it.

It must really suck big time to be so dependent on falsehoods to get you through life

#41 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 12:08 AM | Reply

"I guess you chose not to take my suggestion on being honest for just one week to see if you liked it or not."

I didn't notice your suggestion, but I'm honest every week.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 12:09 AM | Reply

Deflection noted.

What's the problem?

#33 | POSTED BYGOATMAN

Wrong

The other week you called internal DNC machinations that favored Hillary over Bernie in 2016 "voter suppression". And then went on to defend the same thing when the RNC scrapped their primaries to protect Trump.

Voter IDs is voter suppression.

Adding any additional eligibility step to the process of voting diminishes the numbers of votes cast -- and this is what Republicans are all about, voter suppression.

But I get it, you'll always defend the lying Trump and Republican BS.

#43 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-09-15 12:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"The ability to vote for your representatives where you live should not be dependent upon the possible abuses of the voting system.
Two separate issues.
#39 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER "

You are right, it shouldn't be. A lot of things shouldn't be, but are anyway. That is why there are laws, including voting and residency laws.

#44 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 12:10 AM | Reply

As for confusion, something like 30% of spoken language is disambiguation. If you can't navigate your own confusion in life, that's your problem, not anybody else's.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 12:10 AM | Reply

Like, maybe you're confused why I posted that in this thread, and not the one where you are rebelling against a person's choice of pronouns.

Get well soon.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 12:11 AM | Reply

@#37 ... You mean talking about college voting on a thread about post debate polling of Democratic presidential candidates? ...

The discussion has been about college voting.

The intentional restriction of college voting (some might say, strategy) by Republicans because they apparently do not like the outcome.

#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-15 12:12 AM | Reply

"Voter IDs is voter suppression.
Adding any additional eligibility step to the process of voting diminishes the numbers of votes cast -- and this is what Republicans are all about, voter suppression.
But I get it, you'll always defend the lying Trump and Republican BS.

#43 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF "

No they aren't as long as they are free and are easily obtained.

"But I get it, you'll always defend the lying Trump and Republican BS."

I get it. You have no valid argument so you once again puke out something with the word Trump in it.

#48 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 12:13 AM | Reply

"The intentional restriction of college voting (some might say, strategy) by Republicans because they apparently do not like the outcome.
#47 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER "

I agree. But unlike you (considering your focus and selective targeting here) I am against any intentional voting restrictions anywhere by any party.

#49 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 12:16 AM | Reply

"No they aren't as long as they are free and are easily obtained."

Even then, the reason for voter ID is voter suppression.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 12:16 AM | Reply

"I am against any intentional voting restrictions anywhere by any party."

No you're not.
You support voter ID.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 12:17 AM | Reply

"#46 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-09-15 12:11 AM |"

Bye now, liar.

You literally turn my stomach with your daily lies and false accusations and taking things out of context.

How sad you can't debate honestly and without logical fallacies.
'
Have your last word, liar.

#52 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 12:18 AM | Reply

"No you're not.

#51 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

Thank you for underscoring my point, liar.

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 12:19 AM | Reply

"You literally turn my stomach with your daily lies and false accusations and taking things out of context."

I took nothibg out of context.

You support voter ID.
Voter ID is a voter restriction.
Own it.
Own it, Goatman.

Oh, and if owning it turns your stomach, that's your choice. You could own something else, and feel better.

Get well soon!

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 12:21 AM | Reply

@#49 ... I agree. But unlike you (considering your focus and selective targeting here) I am against any intentional voting restrictions anywhere by any party. ...

You say you agree. But then you say "unlike you" and continue to agree.

Why do you think that I am not "against any intentional voting restrictions anywhere by any party." ?

#55 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-15 12:23 AM | Reply

"Why do you think that I am not "against any intentional voting restrictions anywhere by any party." ?
#55 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER "

I stated why. But here it is again, from post 49: "considering your focus and selective targeting here"

#56 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 12:25 AM | Reply

"Why do you think that I am not "against any intentional voting restrictions anywhere by any party." ?

He thinks he's being cute.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 12:26 AM | Reply

@#56 ... I stated why. ...

And what is the basis for that statement?

#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-15 12:29 AM | Reply

"And what is the basis for that statement?
#58 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2019-09-15 12:29 AM "

I don't think it will help to state it a third time. Spanish is the only other language I know. Should I try that?

#59 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 12:34 AM | Reply

@#59 ....I don't think it will help to state it a third time.

No need to state it a third time. Just give the comment numbers for the first two times.

thx.

#60 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-15 12:36 AM | Reply

49

#61 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-15 12:37 AM | Reply

@#61 ... 49 ...

OK.

In #49 you said:

I agree. But unlike you (considering your focus and selective targeting here) I am against any intentional voting restrictions anywhere by any party.

To which I replied in #55:

You say you agree. But then you say "unlike you" and continue to agree.

Why do you think that I am not "against any intentional voting restrictions anywhere by any party." ?


Your comments seem to be going in circles.

So I'll ask once again...

Why do you think that I am not "against any intentional voting restrictions anywhere by any party?

(and I note your #7 comment... "Citation needed. This sounds like an AU ass-fact"

and your reply #16... #15 Thank you for the link.)


#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-15 12:47 AM | Reply

Republicans have made it more difficult for college students to vote in many states.

All idiots have to do is Google.

- Some states are saying that college campuses aren't permanent residences, so no one who lives on a college campus can register to vote in that location.

- Florida's Gov. Desantis just signed a new law requiring "sufficient permitted parking" at early voting sites, including on college campuses. In other words, trying to limit voting sites on campuses which typically have limited parking. Students who live in dorms can't walk to a precinct to vote if there isn't one there.

- Still others are requiring first time voters have to vote in person instead of being able to vote by absentee ballot, limiting the ability of students who can't use residences on college campuses as addresses would have to get however far to their parent's home locations just to vote.

- Michigan passed a law in 1999 that requires most college students to vote where their parents live.

And the list goes on ...

College students face unique challenges casting a vote

#63 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-15 01:46 AM | Reply

"Even then, the reason for voter ID is voter suppression."

Hmmm. The reason for drivers license, check ID etc. is suppression? or maybe to ensure legitimacy?

#64 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2019-09-15 03:52 AM | Reply

Hmmm. The reason for drivers license, check ID etc. is suppression? or maybe to ensure legitimacy?

#64 | Posted by Greatamerican
:
There were only a handful of cases of voter impersonation out of a billion votes in a comprehensive investigation of the non-issue.

In the last presidential election

With just over three weeks until Election Day, Donald Trump has ramped up his claims that the election is "rigged" against him. He blasted Republican leaders on Twitter on Monday, calling them "so naive" and saying: "Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day."

What is the truth behind Trump's declarations? We look at the numbers behind voting fraud in America.

Percentage of Americans who think that the election could be "stolen" from Trump: 41%

(73% of Republicans and 17% of Democrats)

Number of voter fraud cases since 2000: 44 cases out of 1 billion votes cast

(8 of which involve more than one ballot affected)

Rate of voter fraud: 0.0000044%

Number of states with active voter ID laws: 32

Number of laws passed to tighten voting laws since 2001: Over 1,000

2012 voter turnout: 129,085,403

Approximate number of 2012 voter fraud cases: 4

www.pbs.org

There was no problem. It's voter suppression. You've been fed a line of BS.

#65 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-15 12:03 PM | Reply

All I see on this thread is whining about Republicans doing everything they can to win. Democrats should work to win. Then they can change whatever perceived unjust wrongs. Until then, keep crying. That'll show 'em.

#66 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-09-15 12:13 PM | Reply

All I see on this thread is whining about Republicans doing everything they can to win. Democrats should work to win. Then they can change whatever perceived unjust wrongs. Until then, keep crying. That'll show 'em.

#66 | Posted by lee_the_agent

It isn't whining. It's stating fact. What's your solution?

Democrats work to win. They mount credible campaigns and spend an equal amount of time and money to win. 1000 laws have been enacted by GOP controlled legislatures to make it harder to vote for people the GOP don't think will vote for them.

Suppressing the vote to make to make it harder for a Democrat to win and we're supposed to be doing what? Burning down state houses and enacting laws by declaration or something?

#67 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-15 12:44 PM | Reply

Democrats work to win. ~ AU

Come on AU, you can't say Hillary put in a good effort.

#68 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-15 12:47 PM | Reply

"You literally turn my stomach with your daily lies and false accusations and taking things out of context."

I took nothibg out of context.

You support voter ID.
Voter ID is a voter restriction.
Own it.
Own it, Goatman.

Oh, and if owning it turns your stomach, that's your choice. You could own something else, and feel better.

Get well soon!

#54 | Posted by snoofy

Goatman must be a masochist then if lies, false accusations and taking things out of context turn his stomach.

#69 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-15 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Your comments seem to be going in circles.

That's what goatshart does.

Goes in circles and because his stomach is turning so much so fast by all his lies, false accusations and taking things out of context.

#70 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-15 12:57 PM | Reply

Then they can change whatever perceived unjust wrongs. Until then, keep crying. That'll show 'em.

#66 | Posted by lee_the_agent

Yeah, lets not call out one of two major political parties for crapping all over the Constitution every chance they get all in the name of "winning".

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-15 12:58 PM | Reply

"All I see on this thread is whining about Republicans doing everything they can to win."

Watergate.
Remember how much whining there was?
All because Republicans simply trying to win.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-15 01:37 PM | Reply

Tromp will be re elected.

Msm steerage is palpable.

So be it.

#73 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-09-15 04:14 PM | Reply

72 - I know that you are disabled because you are here all day every day, but Watergate? How old are you?

#74 | Posted by homerj at 2019-09-15 10:20 PM | Reply

I dont believe paying out of State tuition is proof of non residency.

Colleges I am checking require you live in the State for a set number of years. So, you could pay out of State and be a resident.

I believe a car license plate places you out of State. Your insurance company may agree. Also, some tax laws determine a student a resident in their parents' State if claimed on a tax return.

#75 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-09-16 12:55 PM | Reply

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