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Tuesday, September 17, 2019

Citing security concerns, Colorado has become the first state to stop counting ballots with printed barcodes.

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#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-18 12:46 AM | Reply

We got new voting machines this year. You select your candidates on a touch screen. Once you're done it prints out your choices. The final step is feeding it into a machine that scans your choices. No bar codes. I sure like having paper backups if there are questions about results or a recount is necessary.

#2 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-18 01:55 AM | Reply

@#2 ... You select your candidates on a touch screen. ...

That is not good.

There have been occurrences when the touch screen has been "adjusted" such that selecting one candidate has actually casts a vote for the other candidate.

Why voters should mark ballots by hand
freedom-to-tinker.com

...Because voting machines contain computers that can be hacked to make them cheat, "Elections should be conducted with human-readable paper ballots. These may be marked by hand or by machine (using a ballot-marking device); they may be counted by hand or by machine (using an optical scanner). Recounts and audits should be conducted by human inspection of the human-readable portion of the paper ballots."

Ballot-marking devices (BMD) contain computers too, and those can also be hacked to make them cheat. But the principle of voter verifiability is that when the BMD prints out a summary card of the voter's choices, which the voter can hold in hand before depositing it for scanning and counting, then the voter has verified the printout that can later be recounted by human inspection....


In other words, any computer between you and the paper ballot that represents your vote can be hacked.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-18 02:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"In other words, any computer between you and the paper ballot that represents your vote can be hacked."

And where there is an opportunity like that Republicans will use it to cheat. They know that, they know we know that but they think that enough Americans don't know that so that they continue to steal elections. There is no honor or decency in the Republican Party, it's all about money and power. If you aren't rich and you vote Republican they think you are a sucker but they'll gladly accept your vote.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-18 06:53 AM | Reply

And where there is an opportunity like that political parties will use it to cheat

Ftfy

#5 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2019-09-18 08:36 AM | Reply

Paper. I am all for and will continue to be for paper ballots.

I don't REALLY mind the machine reading my vote - but even that can be tampered with quite easily. Vote counting machines could be tampered with in such a way as to make a recount highly unlikely and yet 'elect' the individual from the cheating side in many ways. But the paper is still there.

Of course there are ways to stuff the ballot boxes but as long as the checks for that continue to hold... (i.e. No videos of Russians stuffing the ballots being circulated as Democrats being a reality for either party.)

#6 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-09-18 08:59 AM | Reply

In other words, any computer between you and the paper ballot that represents your vote can be hacked.
#3 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2019-09-18 02:20 AM

It does seem less likely the pencil or paper could produce different results without being replaced by data sharing tools from the Illuminatrix Incorporated. For instance a nanofiber paper now integrated everyplace paper is utilized; every office, warehouse, school and supper club. You might not ever again have to think about calculating the tip you are writing, which could prove particularly useful in terms of legal recollection.

Hallmark is merely an extension of Skynet. Get woke and best wishes!

#7 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-09-18 09:34 AM | Reply

About friggin' time. The GOP and the Russians have demonstrated that if they can find a way to cheat they will cheat.

#8 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-09-18 02:40 PM | Reply

@#2 ... You select your candidates on a touch screen. ...

That is not good.

LAMPLIGHTER

The machine prints out a paper ballot. You double check the completed printed ballot before inserting it into an optical scanning machine. No 'hanging chads' or questions about which candidates were selected by pen or pencil.

Redundancy is built into that system. The touch screen stores votes, then you have the paper ballots that are the votes of record, and, finally, the tally of the votes from the optical scanner.

I like the idea of a paper ballot. Can't get around having computers involved. But if there are questions about who got how many votes, if need be there are the paper ballots that can be counted by hand.

#9 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-09-18 04:53 PM | Reply

And where there is an opportunity like that political parties will use it to cheat
Ftfy

#5 | POSTED BY KWRX25

Funny. Only one party has been caught cheating recently. Had to redo the election and everything.

Same Party has been forced to re-draw districts for violating state constitutions, had voter roll purges ruled illegal, and had numerous voter restrictions overturned in Court....

Hint: Wasn't the Democrats...

#10 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-09-18 06:41 PM | Reply

"Funny. Only one party has been caught cheating recently. Had to redo the election and everything.
POSTED BY SYCOPHANT "

Please elaborate. I'm not aware of any elections having to be "redone".

#11 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-18 06:43 PM | Reply

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