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Sunday, September 22, 2019

Donald J. Trump and some of his allies, in their eagerness to undermine Joe Biden's candidacy, and possibly to deflect attention from their own ethical lapses, have gone to extreme lengths, promoting, without evidence, the dubious narrative that Biden used the office of the Vice-President to advance and protect his son's interests.

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Mykola Zlochevsky, the co-founder of Burisma, one of Ukraine's largest natural-gas producers, had served as ecology minister under the pro-Russian government of Viktor Yanukovych. After public protests in 2013 and early 2014, the Ukrainian parliament had voted to remove Yanukovych and called for his arrest.

Under the new Ukrainian government, authorities in Kiev, with the encouragement of the Obama Administration, launched an investigation into whether Zlochevsky had used his cabinet position to grant exploration licenses that benefitted Burisma. (The status of the inquiry is unclear, but no proof of criminal activity has been publicly disclosed. Zlochevsky could not be reached for comment, and Burisma did not respond to queries.) In a related investigation, which was ultimately closed owing to a lack of evidence, British authorities temporarily froze U.K. bank accounts tied to Zlochevsky.

In early 2014, Zlochevsky sought to assemble a high-profile international board to oversee Burisma, telling prospective members that he wanted the company to adopt Western standards of transparency. Hunter Biden joined ...the Burisma board in April, 2014.

Vice-President Biden was playing a central role in overseeing U.S. policy in Ukraine, and took the lead in calling on Kiev to fight rampant corruption.... As the former senior White House aide put it, there was a perception that "Hunter was on the loose, potentially undermining his father's message." The same aide said that Hunter should have recognized that at least some of his foreign business partners were motivated to work with him because they wanted "to be able to say that they are affiliated with Biden."

As Hunter recalled, his father discussed Burisma with him just once: "Dad said, I hope you know what you are doing,' and I said, I do.' "

There is no credible evidence that Biden sought Shokin's removal in order to protect Hunter. According to Amos Hochstein, the Obama Administration's special envoy for energy policy, Shokin was removed because of concerns by the International Monetary Fund, the European Union, and the U.S. government that he wasn't pursuing corruption investigations. Contrary to the assertions that Shokin was fired because he was investigating Burisma and Zlochevsky, Hochstein said, "many of us in the U.S. government believed that Shokin was the one protecting Zlochevsky."

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-09-22 11:05 AM | Reply

Yet another Tony Windbag thread. The DNC must pay him by the word.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-09-22 11:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Read the article at the link, watch the author talk about his findings in the video. When Vice President Joe Biden championed the firing of the Ukraine prosecutor Shokin due to his own corruption, part of the reason was that "many of us in the U.S. government believed that Shokin was the one protecting Zlochevsky."

So the Trump/Giuliani conspiracy allegations make no sense when placed upon the facts and chronology of the events. First, the allegations of corruption tied to Zlochevsky happened BEFORE Hunter Biden received a position on Burisma's newly created board. Second, Joe Biden's role in this was to demand the firing of Shokin with one of the reasons being he was the one protecting Zlochevsky from investigation. So of course his successor initiated another review of Burisma after taking office. This is what the Obama government wanted.

Hunter was not in any position of criminal exposure because he had nothing to do with Burisma for the allegations levied against them that were the basis of the Ukraine investigations, full stop.

If Joe had wanted to help Hunter's employer he would have advocated that Shokin be kept in place, not call for his dismissal.

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-09-22 11:17 AM | Reply

And lastly, this is from media reporting in July, not right now, almost a month before the whistleblower filed their complaint. So claims that this was written as a defense of Biden doesn't jibe either.

So Trump's assertions that the "media should look into what Biden did in the Ukraine" is as bogus as most everything else that escapes his pie hole.

#4 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-09-22 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

TonyRoma doing the work for Warren .....

Tony, don't you see this is being driven by a Democrat?

#5 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-22 11:49 AM | Reply

In a related investigation, which was ultimately closed owing to a lack of evidence, British authorities temporarily froze U.K. bank accounts tied to Zlochevsky.

Whats the logic there?

I am going with, we found something, but can't say what it was ....

As Hunter recalled, his father discussed Burisma with him just once: "Dad said, I hope you know what you are doing,' and I said, I do.' "

For $50,000 a month given his status as the son of the guy directing Ukrainian policy I would bet he knew what he was doing.

Cashing in!

If Joe had wanted to help Hunter's employer he would have advocated that Shokin be kept in place, not call for his dismissal.

Ridiculous ... the investigation was reopened ... the Hunter was there for his "leverage" only.

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-22 11:54 AM | Reply

Hours after Biden's board appointment went public on May 13, 2014, Heinz emailed Matt Summers and David Wade, two of his stepfather's top aides at the State Department.

"Apparently Devon and Hunter both joined the board of Burisma and a press release went out today," wrote Heinz. "I cant speak why they decided to, but there was no investment by our firm in their company."

Why would Kerry's son step back ...

In 2014 and 2015, Burisma paid $3.4 million to a company called Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC, according to the New York Times. That company paid Biden up to $50,000 a month, according to the report. During the same time period, Joe Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire its lead prosecutor who was investigating wrongdoing at Burisma, raising questions from critics about whether this was related to his son's position at the gas company.

Biden stepped down from the Burisma board this year, before his father announced his presidential run. Archer was convicted for his role in an unrelated Ponzi scheme last November, but was recently granted a new trial.
www.washingtonexaminer.com

Really incredible ....

What is it with all the SONS of Democrats running around making $$$ deals with foreign countries that are interacting with their FATHERS in our government?

And you guys constantly complain about TrumpJr. GTFOH!!

Reminds me of the Clinton Foundation .....

#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-09-22 11:58 AM | Reply

Tony, don't you see this is being driven by a Democrat?

Is that the new assertion Mattress? I get it, gather disparate kindling, dump some gas on it, throw a lit cigarette butt on the pile and then claim somebody else wanted the house burned down because they didn't like the resident when you're the one looking to get paid as the beneficiary of the fire insurance policy.

Pompeo just stated on ABC that Biden should be investigated for engaging with a foreign government to influence the 2016 election, something no person who can read should believe a word of.

Driven by a Democrat? You are truly daft.

#8 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-09-22 12:00 PM | Reply

Yet another Tony Windbag thread. The DNC must pay him by the word.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian

Yet another sniveling, whining post from Nullischittian.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2019-09-22 12:04 PM | Reply

If you could actually read Mattress,

In early 2014, Zlochevsky sought to assemble a high-profile international board to oversee Burisma, telling prospective members that he wanted the company to adopt Western standards of transparency. Among the board members he recruited was a former President of Poland, Aleksander Kwaniewski, who had a reputation as a dedicated reformer. In early 2014, at Zlochevsky's suggestion, Kwaniewski met with Devon Archer in Warsaw and encouraged him to join Burisma's board, arguing that the company was critical to Ukraine's independence from Russia. Archer agreed.

When Archer told Hunter that the board needed advice on how to improve the company's corporate governance, Hunter recommended the law firm Boies Schiller Flexner, where he was "of counsel." The firm brought in the investigative agency Nardello & Co. to assess Burisma's history of corruption. Hunter joined Archer on the Burisma board in April, 2014.

www.newyorker.com

The stated goal behind the creation of the board was to reform and create transparency. Hunter was brought to the company to "assess Burimas history of corruption" not to stop or hide any evidence of it.

What a company pays someone is their business as the current Ukraine prosecutor stated "from my point of view, a board member can be paid whatever a company decides ... they didn't violate any Ukrainian laws", so what exactly is so scandalous here?

Only your fevered delusions Mattress, only them.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-09-22 12:09 PM | Reply

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From Mattress' link:

In 2014 and 2015, Burisma paid $3.4 million to a company called Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC, according to the New York Times. That company paid Biden up to $50,000 a month, according to the report. During the same time period, Joe Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire its lead prosecutor who was investigating wrongdoing at Burisma, raising questions from critics about whether this was related to his son's position at the gas company.
Burisma paid Rosemont Seneca, NOT Hunter Biden directly as you keep asserting. And Burisma had no business tied to the US government, it was their prior business practices that were under scrutiny for allegations preceding Hunter Biden joining their board.

Joe Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor because he WASN'T investigating Burisma as most of the western financial world wanted. The next prosecutor did another investigation into Burisma but found nothing to prosecute them for.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-09-22 12:28 PM | Reply

Laughable. No corruption here.

#12 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-09-22 02:38 PM | Reply

I think Trump and Giuliani are playing into the hands of Elizabeth Warren by trying to throw dirt on Biden who is not going to be the nomineee. Trump and Giuliani will wish he was.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-23 10:09 PM | Reply

Orange Adolf is going to need a cell mate when he goes to prison. Rudy would suffice.

Trump/Prison 2020

#14 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-09-24 12:50 AM | Reply

Those trying to keep this going against Biden look more and more like just plain liars. By now they realize they've got nothing but will persist til the election. Might as well just say "Benghazi."

#15 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-24 06:33 AM | Reply

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