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Monday, September 23, 2019

David Leonhardt: Sometimes it's worth stepping back to look at the full picture. He has pressured a foreign leader to interfere in the 2020 American presidential election. He urged a foreign country to intervene in the 2016 presidential election. He divulged classified information to foreign officials. He publicly undermined American intelligence agents while standing next to a hostile foreign autocrat. ...

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Trump is the Poster Boy for the 7 deadly sins, while at the same time, is bereft of any of the 7 Heavenly virtues and yet is the darling of 'so called religious right'.

7 Deadly Sins: 7 heavenly Virtues:

Lust Chastity (purity)
Gluttony Temperance (self-restraint)
Greed Charity (giving)
Sloth Diligence (zeal/integrity/Labor)
Wrath Forgiveness (composure)
Envy Kindness (admiration)
Pride Humility (humbleness)

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-09-23 10:16 AM | Reply

If Donald Trump is the man who best represents your political views, it might be time to take a long hard look at those political views...

#2 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-09-23 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The comments section is better than the opinion article.

#3 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-09-23 03:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

The comments section is better than the opinion article.

#3 | Posted by Petrous

That OPINION article lists FACTS you cant refute.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 03:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yea but, better Russian than Democrat.

#5 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-09-23 03:39 PM | Reply

2nd sentence is false.
Requesting an ally reopen an investigation into the son of a possible Democratic nominee (really, anyone over the age of 35 and a US citizens meets that bar at this point) is not interfering in an election.

#6 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-09-23 04:44 PM | Reply

Democrats are too inept to do anything to stop Trump's winning. Democrats are the Washington Generals to Trump's Globetrotters. Nothing but doormat laughingstocks. Impeach Pelosi first.

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-09-23 04:51 PM | Reply

Second sentence says:

"He has pressured a foreign leader to interfere in the 2020 American presidential election."

Are you denying that he has pressured?

Or merely denying that what was pressured would be interference, if carried out by Ukraine?

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-09-23 04:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democrats are too inept to do anything to stop Trump's winning. Democrats are the Washington Generals to Trump's Globetrotters. Nothing but doormat laughingstocks. Impeach Pelosi first.

POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT AT 2019-09-23 04:51 PM | REPLY

I didn't want her either. It's all about clout and prestige with her. She doesn't want to do the heavy lifting however.

#9 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-09-23 04:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democrats are too inept to do anything to stop Trump's winning. Democrats are the Washington Generals to Trump's Globetrotters. Nothing but doormat laughingstocks. Impeach Pelosi first.

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent

Close. If you'd have said - too inept to do anything to stop trump's CORRUPTION, you'd be accurate.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 05:26 PM | Reply

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Requesting an ally reopen an investigation into the son of a possible Democratic nominee is not interfering in an election.

#6 | Posted by Avigdore

Yes it absolutely is.

This is trumpism in a nutshell. Gaslight the world. Say fire isn't hot. Water isn't wet. And trump isn't corrupt.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 05:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Investigate Biden's son
Then.....Lets give Ivanka, Jared, Mutt and Jeff security clearances and international contacts/business branding deals/and assorted fkry.

#12 | Posted by blasFme at 2019-09-23 06:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yes it absolutely is. #11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 05:29 PM

Let's test your theory.
Who is Trump's opponent in 2020?

#13 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-09-23 07:11 PM | Reply

Let's test your theory.
Who is Trump's opponent in 2020?

#13 | Posted by Avigdore

Huh?

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 07:38 PM | Reply

Corruption is winning if no one stops it.

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-09-23 07:41 PM | Reply

Corruption is winning if no one stops it.

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent

This is what trump has done to half our country - corruption is fine if it means we win.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 07:56 PM | Reply

"Corruption is winning if no one stops it.

#15 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT "

Yep.

And those who refuse to stop it tacitly support it. Go dems!

#17 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-23 07:58 PM | Reply

And those who refuse to stop it tacitly support it. Go dems!

#17 | Posted by goatman

I can't wait to watch you turn on a dime when dems start impeachment and start attacking them FOR impeaching.

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 08:12 PM | Reply

"I can't wait to watch you turn on a dime when dems start impeachment and start attacking them FOR impeaching.

#18 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

I can't wait until you stop specuating and deal with facts.

#19 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-23 08:17 PM | Reply

Huh? - #14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 07:38 PM

You claimed that this is interfering with the election, however there has not yet been a single vote cast to choose any person to run against Trump. The only way that your assertion makes sense is if it is interfering with the election for Trump to discuss reopening an investigation of any US citizen over the age of 35, as any of them may be a candidate against him.

#20 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-09-23 08:33 PM | Reply

Except for Obama, Bush or Clinton I suppose.

#21 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-09-23 08:34 PM | Reply

2nd sentence is false.

Ok.

That leaves 39 more despicable acts.

That good enough for you? As long as there aren't 40? Go blink and he'll give you #40.

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-23 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When the first example they use is false, I didn't really feel the need to do a further review of their 39 other.
Why would I?
It is obvious that they aren't interested in providing an unbiased review of the situation.

#23 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-09-23 08:47 PM | Reply

"That leaves 39 more despicable acts.

#22 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-09-23 08:45 PM "

He can have 39,000 despicable and impeachable acts, but he never as to worry because of the spineless dems.

#24 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-23 08:47 PM | Reply

Great, now Pelosi has even more of a roadmap to start a Formal Impeachment Inquiry.

Looking forward to it.

#25 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-23 08:51 PM | Reply

Looking forward to it.

#25 | Posted by Rightocenter

Looking forward to you and goatman finding a new reason to attack dems when they start impeachment.

Dems are attacking trump over nothing! -> ok but why aren't they impeaching? -> dems are impeaching over nothing!

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 09:29 PM | Reply

"Looking forward to you and goatman finding a new reason to attack dems when they start impeachment.
#26 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

???

Why? Unlike you, I am consistent and don't' lie.

If Trump has done something wrong, I am all for impeachment.

Speculation is a logical fallacy, but logical fallacies are all you ever have.

I attack your party because they are chicken ---- and put party over justice. Own it.

#27 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-23 09:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He can have 39,000 despicable and impeachable acts, but he never as to worry because of the spineless dems.
#24 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

I'd dig around for your post from a couple days ago whining about "speculation" when i posted a hypothetical like that, but you post so goddamn much it would take me all week to find it.

That said, he could have 39,000 despicable and impeachable acts, and Trump Felchers like you would still be defending, explaining, and deflecting to democrats, because you'd rather be run by a russian-owned autocrat than admit your party is a joke.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-23 09:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If Trump has done something wrong, I am all for impeachment.

Has he done something wrong?

#29 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-23 09:55 PM | Reply

If Trump has done something wrong

#27 | Posted by goatman

What stopped you from reading the mueller report?

What stopped you from reading about why michael cohen is in jail?

illiteracy?

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-23 09:56 PM | Reply

"What stopped you from reading the mueller report?
What stopped you from reading about why michael cohen is in jail?
illiteracy?

#30 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

It doesn't matter if I've read it or not. I have no power to impeach. The question is why haven't the democrats read it?

Weak deflection noted.

Your party is the party of cowards, speaksoftly. Own it.

#31 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-23 09:59 PM | Reply

"That said, he could have 39,000 despicable and impeachable acts, and Trump Felchers like you would still be defending, explaining, and deflecting to democrats, because you'd rather be run by a russian-owned autocrat than admit your party is a joke.

#28 | POSTED BY JOE "

Thank you for your unsubstantiated opinion. It's amusing.

#32 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-23 10:08 PM | Reply

"I attack your party because they are chicken ---- and put party over justice. Own it."

Pelosi says Trump has until Thursday to open a new phase of investigation if Whislblower isn't allowed to speak to Congress.

""This violation is about our national security. The Inspector General determined that the matter is urgent' and therefore we face an emergency that must be addressed immediately," Pelosi wrote in a letter to members of Congress released Sunday.

The anonymous complaint, the existence of which was made public last week, reportedly includes allegations that Trump asked Ukrainian leaders to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his family. No evidence has emerged to suggest Biden acted with his son's interests in mind with regard to his dealings with Ukraine."

thehill.com

Pelosi is no coward and she isn't backing down.

#33 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-23 10:32 PM | Reply

"Pelosi is no coward and she isn't backing down.

#33 | POSTED BY DANNI "

She can't back down. She has done nothing constructive to back down from.

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-23 10:42 PM | Reply

We'll see what happens on Thursday. I don't think Trump or Barr is going to like it. She is one of the smartest politicians in the country, certainly smarter than both of them. She waited for her opportunity, Trump gave it to her, now she will play her cards. Pelosi is patient and calculating. In a way Trump isn't.

#35 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-23 10:52 PM | Reply

Looking forward to you and goatman finding a new reason to attack dems when they start impeachment.

Can't speak for Goat but I am only attacking them because they won't start a Formal Impeachment Inquiry.

Take your meds and breathe into your paper bag.

#36 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-23 10:57 PM | Reply

Pelosi is no coward and she isn't backing down.

POSTED BY DANNI AT 2019-09-23 10:32 PM | REPLY

She's no coward. It's worse than that. She's a 1%er who cares more for her political standing than doing right by the country. We've been down the same road only with Dubya.

#37 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-09-23 11:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Can't speak for Goat but I am only attacking them because they won't start a Formal Impeachment Inquiry.
Take your meds and breathe into your paper bag.

#36 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER A"

In this case, you do speak for me.

Speaksoftly obviously doesn't' understand that not everyone is partisan as she is. Some of us put justice over party, unlike speaksoftly

#38 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-23 11:01 PM | Reply

#37

Laura, well done. I think that both W and Pelosi are similar in lots of ways and don't disagree with your characterization.

#39 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-23 11:14 PM | Reply

oooohhh a new phase of investigation! wow !! that'll have em shaking in their boots

maybe double secret probation is in order!!

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-09-23 11:15 PM | Reply

"She's no coward. It's worse than that. She's a 1%er who cares more for her political standing than doing right by the country."

Horse crap. She is a professional politician, who actually is someone who wants to do the right thing, but she is doing what she thinks is the right thing to expose the Trump administration for what it is. It's taking longer than you would like, oh dear, but she is now getting close to getting the job done. You want majicians, not politicians. Sorry, that's just not the way the world works.

#41 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-23 11:16 PM | Reply

"Laura, well done. I think that both W and Pelosi are similar in lots of ways and don't disagree with your characterization."

Perhaps the dumbest thing ever posted here. Pelosi and Dubya are similar? Did she tell her biographer that she wanted to start a war in the middle east so she could be a war time President and use the power of that to privatize SS????? Dubya did. You show me daily that you are far less intelligent than I gave you credit for. That was a truly idiotic post. Contratulations, you are now on the level of Boaz.
I suspect you're a pretend lawyer. I've got successful, real lawyers in my family. They would never have time to waste on a blog like this. They are busy making $$$$$$$. If you aren't then you aren't a real lawyer.

#42 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-23 11:20 PM | Reply

"...but she is now getting close to getting the job done."

We liberals love anticipating good news that never seems to pan out.

Kind of goes hand in hand with celebrating useless victories, especially of the "moral" variety.

I've said it before, i'll say it again

Illegitimate President Bucket of ---- will not be impeached
He will not be indicted
He will not resign

He will most likely win reelection.

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-09-23 11:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Horse crap. She is a professional politician, who actually is someone who wants to do the right thing, but she is doing what she thinks is the right thing to expose the Trump administration for what it is. It's taking longer than you would like, oh dear, but she is now getting close to getting the job done. You want majicians, not politicians. Sorry, that's just not the way the world works.

POSTED BY DANNI AT 2019-09-23 11:16 PM | REPLY

You're family to me Danni but you are full of schit this time. If she wanted to do the right thing she would have started impeachment proceedings long ago. She's SOTH. Her first duty is to the Constitution. Her party must come second.

#44 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-09-23 11:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#42

Your inability to comprehend what we are talking about speaks volumes.

#45 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-09-23 11:33 PM | Reply

It doesn't matter if I've read it or not. I have no power to impeach. The question is why haven't the democrats read it?

Weak deflection noted.

Your party is the party of cowards, speaksoftly. Own it.

#31 | Posted by goatman

No deflection. You said IF he did anything wrong.

Did he?

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 11:51 AM | Reply

Can't speak for Goat but I am only attacking them because they won't start a Formal Impeachment Inquiry.

#36 | Posted by Rightocenter

Yeah NOW you are.

Before you were attacking them for being too hard on trump.

Next you'll attack them for....?

Whatever happens, you'll always be attacking the dems and never trump.

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 11:52 AM | Reply

It's taking longer than you would like, oh dear, but she is now getting close to getting the job done. You want majicians, not politicians. Sorry, that's just not the way the world works.

#41 | Posted by danni

I dont think so. I hope to be wrong. But i really think pelosi just wants to have the election and not take any action against trump. She is horrible, cowardly, and needs to be removed immediately. The people gave her back the leadership to fight back against trump and she's done nothing.

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 11:54 AM | Reply

Speaksoftly obviously doesn't' understand that not everyone is partisan as she is. Some of us put justice over party, unlike speaksoftly

#38 | Posted by goatman

You're the most partisan person on this site. show me one post attacking trump or republicans. Just one.

You dont give a damn about justice. You're a republican puppet with trumps hand up your ass.

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 11:55 AM | Reply

Another POTUS, another list of "He's the worst person in the world and here's why". Sure didn't see any Dems posting these same articles when they were about Obama. And if someone did, all the people on here saying these are irrefutable facts were on here then saying they are not facts. More children being led by their emotions and not by logic and reason.

#50 | Posted by humtake at 2019-09-24 12:58 PM | Reply

Another POTUS, another list of "He's the worst person in the world and here's why". Sure didn't see any Dems posting these same articles when they were about Obama.

#50 | Posted by humtake

Thats because obama didnt do these things moron.
You cant refute the list and you cant defend trump, so your only option is to PRETEND some democrat was just as bad. Which only the other members of your moronic cult are dumb enough to believe.

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 01:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You're the most partisan person on this site. show me one post attacking trump or republicans. Just one.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

You've made that request several times. I've done it several times.

What's in it for me if I do it again? Jumping through your hoops and proving you wrong each time is getting boring. I want something in reture.

Let's say I honor your request and prove you wrong yet another time, will you leave the DR for a week?

Put your moneny where your mouth is big shot. I've got not just one post as you request, but three lined up for you.

Do we have a deal?

I didn't think so. Take your BS elsewhere.

#52 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-24 01:37 PM | Reply

#52 | Posted by goatman

Saying why aren't dems impeaching him isn't attacking trump, it's attacking dems.

Saying he's a crook who should be impeached would be attacking trump.

Is he a crook or not?
Has the entire GOP turned into loyalists for that crook?

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 01:58 PM | Reply

"Has the entire GOP turned into loyalists for that crook?

#53 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

I don't speak for the GOP

#54 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-24 02:22 PM | Reply

I don't speak for the GOP

#54 | Posted by goatman

No you just repeat their propaganda. So they speak for you.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You dodged the question - is trump a crook or not?

#56 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 02:51 PM | Reply

"You dodged the question - is trump a crook or not?

#56 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "'

You dodged my question in post 52.

Answer it and I'll answer yours. I asked first.

#57 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-24 02:55 PM | Reply

You dodged the question - is trump a crook or not?
#56 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

"No you just repeat their propaganda. So they speak for you.
#55 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

I can't help that.

Still waiting for a reply to my post 52, btw. Also still waiting for you to tell me what is so horrible about San Antonio.

Seems you expect everyone to answer your questions, but you don't feel the need to answer others.

Could it be because you are a "do as I say, not as I do" liberal? Since you prove that you are over and over, I have to assume you are invoking your hypocrite clause again.

#58 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-24 03:11 PM | Reply

Still waiting for a reply to my post 52, btw. Also still waiting for you to tell me what is so horrible about San Antonio.

Seems you expect everyone to answer your questions, but you don't feel the need to answer others.

Could it be because you are a "do as I say, not as I do" liberal? Since you prove that you are over and over, I have to assume you are invoking your hypocrite clause again.

#58 | Posted by goatman

My questions are about the topic of the thread. You're obsessed with me talking about san antonio for some reason so you can make the thread about you again.

So what are your criticisms of trump and the GOP?

#59 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 03:12 PM | Reply

I asked first.

#57 | Posted by goatman

From the "i prefer to have adult conversations" guy.

#60 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 03:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I asked first.
#57 | Posted by goatman
From the "i prefer to have adult conversations" guy.

#60 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

So expecting my question to be answered first (since I asked it first) is not being adult-like? LOL

You're a trip.

But I presume you don't wish to accept my challenge in post 52. Smart move. Though I've no doubt that you will continue to puke out that same lie I challenged you on. No doubt at all.

Bye, now speaksoftly

#61 | Posted by goatman at 2019-09-24 03:18 PM | Reply

Bye, now speaksoftly

#61 | Posted by goatman

Is this the part where you say BYE NOW a dozen times or are you actually leaving?

#62 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-09-24 03:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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