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Monday, September 30, 2019

The Kremlin has said it would need to give permission for Donald Trump to release details of his one-on-one conversations with Vladimir Putin, a likely target of Democratic lawmakers in an upcoming impeachment inquiry.

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Trump is a coward and he is a subservient agent of Russia or else he would read what Putin said and immediately release the transcripts of those conversations just to prove he is the American President and that he doesn't take orders from Putin.
Sort of sad that we, here in America, have arrived at a point where we need for our President to demonstrate that he is not a pawn of a foreign leader. But, here we are.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-30 03:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I disagree Danni, the kremlin is correct on this.

That said if transcripts were released to an intelligence committee or foreign service and not to the general public or congress in general I feel like that would shut down any complaints by Russia.

#2 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-09-30 03:16 PM | Reply

... Diplomatic practice does not allow for the publication [of these records]," Peskov said, according to the Interfax news service. ...

I agree that diplomatic practice does not allow for the publication, as the spokesperson said.

However, a lot of the Trump administration's efforts have been about abandoning such international agreements, norms and practices. So why should this incident be any different?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-09-30 03:22 PM | Reply

I'm a citizen not a serf. I should be allowed to know what our President said to Putin, ESPECIALLY, if he revealed classified information. If he didn't then what needs to be hidden from our view? If he did then we need to know. I don't understand Americans who think they should give up the right to know when we are talking about our President talking to a leader whom our President should never speak about classified information to.
The only things Trump could say to Putin that we should hear are things Trump should never be saying to Putin.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-30 03:31 PM | Reply

"The only things Trump could say to Putin that we should hear are things Trump should never be saying to Putin."

Should have been:

"The only things Trump could say to Putin that we should not hear are things Trump should never be saying to Putin."

#5 | Posted by danni at 2019-09-30 03:35 PM | Reply

I love how the left feels POTUS isn't actually able to conduct foreign policy because Trump.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-09-30 03:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I love how the left feels POTUS isn't actually able to conduct foreign policy because Trump.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019

You treat Trump like he's something he's not, sane. Why do you do that?

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2019-09-30 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the release of summaries or transcripts of the two leaders' discussions " details of which have remained a closely guarded secret " is "only possible with the mutual agreement of both sides"

So was the White House's release of the Ukraine call memorandum a breach of diplomatic protocol?

#8 | Posted by JOE at 2019-09-30 04:09 PM | Reply

Trump needs permission from Putin to wipe his own arse. Look at this righties. The Mighty USA needs Putin's okie dokie to proceed with the investigation.

You built that.

#9 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-09-30 05:27 PM | Reply

When you see how unpredictable Trump can get.. you can see why Putin keeps him on a short leash.

#10 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-09-30 11:33 PM | Reply

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What happened to America First?
Would Trump kowtow to Mexico like this?
Isn't Trump still the non-politician who flouts all swampy norms?

#11 | Posted by anton at 2019-10-01 06:07 AM | Reply

As if Putin would ever ask for permission to release anything he wants.

"I love how the left feels POTUS isn't actually able to conduct foreign policy because Trump."

I love your double standard, if Obama said he needed Putin's permission you would never let him alone about it. You know that's true. Obama once wore a tan suit and you guys went crazy. Once him and Michelle went on a date to NYC and you guys went crazy. Republicans in America today are simply hypocrites.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-01 07:41 AM | Reply

I love how the left feels POTUS isn't actually able to conduct foreign policy because Trump.

#6 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Do you trust Trump to do the right thing for the country (or at least try)? Or do you think Trump will do what benefits Trump, regardless of the consequences to the country (as demonstrated in the Ukraine call)?

I think TRUMP is unable to conduct foreign policy without oversight, because if he is not being watched the Conservative grifter will come out and he will sell out America.

Trust is easily lost, and once lost it is hard to get back. We don't trust Trump, because he has proven himself untrustworthy. The big question is WHY do YOU trust him?

#13 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-01 07:57 AM | Reply

GTBrit,

It's not about trust, it's about respecting the separation of powers. Nothing more.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-01 09:18 AM | Reply

It's not about trust, it's about respecting the separation of powers. Nothing more.

Why? Trump doesn't respect the separation of powers as delineated in the Constitution.
Trump has proven that he does not respect any norms that have more or less defined the Presidency.
If it profited Trump in any way, or hurt his enemies, those transcripts and phone conversations would have been played non stop on Fox for days.
Screw Putin, are we an independent country or a satellite state of Putin's Russia? Time to choose.

#15 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2019-10-01 09:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's not about trust, it's about respecting the separation of powers. Nothing more.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019

JEFF, Trump is on a mission for one-man rule. You are playing the role of useful idiot.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-01 09:57 AM | Reply

"It's not about trust, it's about respecting the separation of powers. Nothing more."

Yeah, that's it Jeff, Trumps respect for the separation of powers. Yeah riiiggggt!!! Who do you think you're kidding?

#17 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-01 09:58 AM | Reply

I hope that the Dems in Congress interview Trump's translator regarding the notes she took when he had his tete-a-tete with Putin. She should probably be in protective custody herself. I sincerely hope nothing happens to her.

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-01 10:07 AM | Reply

It's not about trust, it's about respecting the separation of powers. Nothing more.

POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-10-01 09:18 AM | REPLY

Where was that attitude during Obama's Nuclear Deal with Iran?? Yep it wasn't there. As a matter of fact you SUPPORTED the Republican congress violating the separation of powers and there was no corruption with Obama then. You're a typical partisan hack job though. Well established.

#19 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-10-01 10:12 AM | Reply

It's not about trust, it's about respecting the separation of powers. Nothing more.

#14 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

How about respecting "checks and balances". Congress has a responsibility of oversight over the executive branch. You seem not to be "respecting" that oversight. Congress has not tried to usurp conducting foreign policy from Trump. He still conducts it. All Congress has said is "we want to know everything you do" so it can "oversee" him.

If the conservative was TRUSTWORTHY then maybe Congress would not feel like the were reneging on their duty by having oversight which was less overbearing. But, since the Republican CANNOT be trusted to put the interests of the COUNTRY in front of HIS OWN, then Congress has a CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY to enforce oversight over their actions.

You think it is "wrong" because other presidents have been have been trustworthy in the past so they were treated differently, but in actuality there is nothing here outside the bounds of constitutional responsibility.

But, when a party reneges on their responsibility to nominate a person who can be trusted to actually try to fulfill their responsibilities in respect to the office they were elected to, then the system has to adapt. That is the beauty of the design of the Constitution, it can adapt. And this is the adaptation.

Be proud Jeff... YOU built that. :)

#20 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-01 10:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Where was that attitude during Obama's Nuclear Deal with Iran?? Yep it wasn't there. As a matter of fact you SUPPORTED the Republican congress violating the separation of powers and there was no corruption with Obama then. You're a typical partisan hack job though. Well established.

#19 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2019-10-01 10:12 AM | REPLY | FLAG: Revisionist history

You offer nothing of value any more. Ever.

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-01 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You offer nothing of value any more. Ever.

#21 | POSTED BY Comrade Jeffry

Translation: I'm going to take my ball and go home...

Laura just proved you're full of fecal matter, and this is your reply.

#22 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-10-01 10:50 AM | Reply

Now we know why trump is sending barr all over the world to try and blame the russian investigation on something besides russia - so that he can lift the sanctions on russia. He's been a puppet the whole time.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-01 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#19 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2019-10-01 10:12 AM | FLAG: Revisionist history
You offer nothing of value any more. Ever.

#21 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Meh... I think she was kinda making the same point I was. Congress was providing oversight in that case, just as it is now. Congress providing oversight of foreign policy is not unusual.

Though, she was trying to make it through "whataboutism" and appeal to hypocrisy, so definitely negative points there.

#24 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-01 11:14 AM | Reply

#22 How about when Obama was caught on a hot mic whispering that he could be more flexable with Russia after the election? A. Your attitude was a little different with Russia then for some reason. B. Secret conversations with foreign leaders was ok then.

#25 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-10-01 11:15 AM | Reply

he could be more flexable with Russia after the election

Presidents can be more flexible with, literally, every single foreign and domestic policy matter after an election is over with. Stating that fact is not remotely comparable to asking for, and gleefully receiving the fruits of, crimes against Americans by a foreign power.

#26 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-01 11:26 AM | Reply

Wow, cooperation with other world leaders is something Dems pounce on, yet when a Rep does it then it's bad. Just like immigration where Obama AND Clinton are on video saying the same things Trump says but you only get mad at Trump. This country will never heal when we have people like this in it. This post is akin to white nationalism in terms of damage to the country.

#27 | Posted by humtake at 2019-10-01 12:07 PM | Reply

This post is akin to white nationalism in terms of damage to the country.
#27 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2019-10-01 12:07 PM | FLAG: Drama Empress

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-01 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Wow, cooperation with other world leaders is something Dems pounce on, yet when a Rep does it then it's bad.

#27 | Posted by humtake

People can COOPERATE on a murder. That doesn't mean people opposed to that murder are opposed to cooperation dum dum.

Trump is trying to COOPERATE on blaming russiagate on someone besides russia, so he can lift the sanctions on russia, because he's been putin's puppet the whole time.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-01 01:09 PM | Reply

How about when Obama was caught on a hot mic whispering that he could be more flexable with Russia after the election? A. Your attitude was a little different with Russia then for some reason. B. Secret conversations with foreign leaders was ok then.

#25 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

I am actually not sure whether this is anything or not. Reading the article, it seems like it is saying that releasing the conversation to a Congressional Oversight Committee would require Putin's permission, on which I would say BS. But if they actually mean releasing it to the public, or to Congress in general, then I think they have a point that the Kremlin should at least have a say, while maybe not actual control, over whether it was released.

But, since you mentioned hypocrisy... was Obama's "secret conversation" OK with you back then? If not, why are you OK with Trump's secret conversations now?

#30 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-01 03:05 PM | Reply

This is basically the Kremlin telling the world who runs things in the WH...

#31 | Posted by Jimbob43 at 2019-10-02 09:22 AM | Reply

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