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Friday, October 04, 2019

A passport screening official held a Defense One journalist's passport until he received an affirmative answer to this repeated question: "You write propaganda, right?"

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Over the past year, several journalists have reported being harassed and even detained by U.S. customs agents. In February, CBP officials apologized to a BuzzFeed reporter who was aggressively questioned upon entering New York’s JFK Airport.

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David Mack @davidmackau

ben, sorry you went through this. this actually happened to me in February so I know how disturbing it is. was especially scary as I'm not a citizen. DHS told me at the time officers would be reminded of their training but I guess not enough has been done

Customs And Border Protection Apologized After An Agent Questioned A BuzzFeed News Reporter About Trump Coverage
www.buzzfeednews.com

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-04 02:26 PM | Reply

From the cited article:

...Over the past year, several journalists have reported being harassed and even detained by U.S. customs agents. In February, CBP officials apologized to a BuzzFeed reporter who was aggressively questioned upon entering New York's JFK Airport. In June, freelance reporter Seth Harp described his hours-long detention by CBP officers in the Austin, Texas, airport. In August, British journalist James Dwyer said he was harassed as "fake news" by a CBP agent at Los Angeles International Airport. "He wanted to know if I'd ever worked for CNN or MSNBC or other outlets that are spreading lies to the American people,' " he tweeted, per a Washington Post story that links to other instances of CBP harassment of journalists.

The Post also noted that in April, the United States' ranking in the annual World Freedom Press Index dropped for a third year in a row. It classified the treatment of journalists in the United States as "problematic," a first in the 17 years the report has been issued. The report's authors attributed the decline "to President Trump's anti-press rhetoric and continuing threats to journalists," the Post reported at the time....


Frightening stuff.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-04 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Picture this happening to "conservative" and intellectual icon, Steven Seagal

The usuals would be calling for "civil war" while giving each other rhetorical reach arounds

#3 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-04 05:31 PM | Reply

"He wanted to know if I'd ever worked for CNN or MSNBC or other outlets that are spreading lies to the American people"

It restores my faith in humanity that Trump has all these Brownshirts just waiting in the wings.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-04 05:41 PM | Reply

Imagine if this happened to conservative (R)tard Ben" I haven't gone thru puberty yet" Shapiro.
The troglodytes and hilljacks would be in the streets rioting with their torches..

#5 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-10-04 06:38 PM | Reply

"Frightening stuff."

It is frightening. If Trump continues to have his unfettered way, I fear for the future of our democracy, and, no, I am not being hyperbolic.

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-04 11:16 PM | Reply

100% crickets from the riiiiight.

Guess they're still looking for Obama deflections.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-05 12:17 AM | Reply

100% crickets from the riiiiight.

Big government ... what else is there to say. ...

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-05 12:29 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

Your cowardice is astounding.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-05 12:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Big government ... what else is there to say. ..."

That's old Bill O'Reilly schtick: when Democrats are in power, blame Democrats. When Republicans are in power...

...blame government.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-10-05 12:33 AM | Reply

Big government ... what else is there to say. ...

#8 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

You (conservatives) built that.

#11 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-05 07:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Picture this happening to "conservative" and intellectual icon, Steven Seagal"

Steven Seagal would just karate chop his way in.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-05 08:43 AM | Reply

Nah, he'd eat them. He isn't missing to many meals?

#13 | Posted by zelkova at 2019-10-05 09:15 AM | Reply

The TSA harasses people everday. BFD
Asking questions is not harassing, unless the questionee is some entitled little beoch.

#14 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-05 09:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Andrea has sunk to a new level with this. -------------- is not near his lowest level. He has been looking up at the bottom for years.

#15 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-10-05 09:27 AM | Reply

This is no different than witholding the passport of a bundy rancher until they gave an affirmative answer to "you ---- goats, right". There is no way to spin it as normal or ok nad to accept it as ok or normal is obscene. The Worker should be fired immediately

#16 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-10-05 10:47 AM | Reply

Totally normal state in which we live

#17 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-10-05 11:18 AM | Reply

I just flashed back to being ten years old and watching black and white war movies that always seemed to have a check on papers "in order?".

#18 | Posted by LesWit at 2019-10-05 11:38 AM | Reply

TSA is a bunch of wadge slaves, who have a dull repetitive job, with little respect. I have noticed that if you act in a rude or privileged manner, they get more assertive. I can guess what type of manner talking heads and journalist exude.

#19 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-10-05 11:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I can guess what type of manner talking heads and journalist exude."

Blame the victim much?
No, always!

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-05 04:18 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by snoofy, I am sure you have dwelt with those professionals as much as I have. No, on second thought you haven't. The most fun I ever had in Iraq was leaving one of those parasites stranded downtown among the locals, for a hot minute. He lived, and for some reason he wasn't as talkative going back in to the FOB, enlightening us knuckle daggers with his pearls of wisdom. He was lucky, the other guy from the NYT go up close and personal with an IED, he lived too. Just wasn't with as keen an ear afterwards.

#21 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-10-05 04:46 PM | Reply

Actually my opinion is the media shouldn't take sides, so any reporters who "embedded" with you are really just acting as agents of the state.

This all came about after Vietnam.

I'm sure you're familiar with General Westmoreland, who said:

"Vietnam was the first war ever fought without any censorship. Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind."

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-05 04:51 PM | Reply

"The most fun I ever had in Iraq was leaving one of those parasites stranded downtown among the locals"

Interesting that you consider the press a bigger enemy than your actual enemy.

You know what side your bread is buttered on.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-05 04:53 PM | Reply

#21 | Posted by docnjo

You sound like a good old fashioned fascist. Goebbels would be proud of you for knocking the free press who contradict the propaganda you're fed with facts.

#24 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-05 05:11 PM | Reply

#23 | Posted by snoofy Nothing in my mission required me to protect his arrogant posterior, he chose to be there. I didn't view the press as an enemy, just a minor irritation. We killed the enemy, and they were exceptionally easy to identify, they shot at us. Strange every press and media personality I saw was an expert within a day of arrival. Green zone mafia, who couldn't get back to their booze and computer terminals fast enough. They seldom stayed the night in a real CZ. Where there were real rocket and mortar attacks every day, real snipers, an abundance of IEDs and every sort of nasty you would not want to see.

#25 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-10-05 05:12 PM | Reply

#25 | Posted by docnjo

Your posting history evidences your general dislike for factual reporting. You probably viewed any journalist as an adversary. And the fact they went where they slept, to do their jobs - write stories to send to their editors - didn't cross your mind. You just assumed they were steppin' into high cotton with their noses in the air. Amirite?

What should have concerned you more was the effort to suppress their access. Like how America never saw a plane unload a single casket at Andrews AFB like we did during the Vietnam War. Nope, that might ruin Bush & Co's entire narrative of how well things were going when in fact they'd gone to schitt and continued to go to deeper schitt until they finally put enough force on the ground to turn things around somewhat.

#26 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-05 05:22 PM | Reply

Journalists will be under greater attack as conservatives try desperately to protect Trump.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-10-05 05:52 PM | Reply

"We killed the enemy, and they were exceptionally easy to identify, they shot at us."

Chelsea Manning went to prison for us to know that's not always true.
Pat Tillmam's death resulted in a cover-up to maintain that fiction.
And this is why you might rightfully view the free press as your enemy.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-05 05:52 PM | Reply

Strange every press and media personality I saw was an expert within a day of arrival. Green zone mafia, who couldn't get back to their booze and computer terminals fast enough. They seldom stayed the night in a real CZ.

Journalists are well read. They study their topics thoroughly. Foreign correspondents are a tight knit group, like you and your platoon. They knew a lot before they ever landed or they wouldn't be good journalists. Like you were, foreign correspondents are always far from home, friends, wives, husbands, kids, their normal lives. Like you were. Because of those circumstances their friends are those they work with on a daily basis, all of them usually half a globe away from home. Like you and your compatriots. You drank with your pals, they drank with theirs.

I did a ton of USO shows all over the world when I was younger. Hotspots included. We were welcomed onto the bases, to the camps, and sometimes remote locations in the middle of nowhere with 20 guys. Were reporters free to hang with you at your camp and have a beer? Maybe sometimes, maybe not. Did you ever offer to have a beer with one of the reporters at 'your place' or 'theirs?' If so, and they turned you down, could it have been because they were exhausted and yet still had to meet a deadline for their employers? Maybe another time would have worked if you could coordinate it?

Prejudice (pre-judging) is: "contempt prior to investigation." Did you ever make an effort or did your preconceived notions about what you assumed was them putting on 'airs?' Is it possible the reporters you mentioned who'd been there one day were incredibly exhausted after long flights, their bodies out of whack in a whole different time zone, just trying to stay upright?

You may have missed out on some great times before you ever spent an hour over a beer with any of them. Just sayin' ...

#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-05 05:55 PM | Reply

"conservatives try desperately to protect Trump."

People who are protecting Trump either don't realize they're also protecting the Russian Mafia and North Korea, or they just don't care.

I'm guessing there's both types.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-05 05:57 PM | Reply

Did you ever make an effort or did your preconceived notions about what you assumed was them putting on 'airs' preclude you from getting to know them as people, and maybe find they weren't the snobs you assumed they were?

#31 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-05 05:57 PM | Reply

#29 you make it sound like if the fates had intervened and caused Al Gore and Docnjo to have a beer together, we'd have Medicare For All by now.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-05 06:00 PM | Reply

#29 you make it sound like if the fates had intervened and caused Al Gore and Docnjo to have a beer together, we'd have Medicare For All by now.
Posted by snoofy

Foreign correspondents have fascinating stories and anecdotes. They've seen the world & seen a lot.

Don't know about Medicare For All (LOL) but I do know that when people who haven't spent time with anyone from a group they're prejudiced against and do so, they're usually surprised to discover that what others told them, and their own preconceived notions, came into question.

In DOCNJO's case, if he put off a sense of his own condescension towards reporters (not saying he did), he may have received what he put out in return. But, like I said above, anyone who's gotten off a gruelingly long flight, exhausted and in another country and time zone, isn't going to be acting like they would after a good night's sleep or two.

Did Paul Bremer venture out of the Green Zone every day? How about the generals? Other members of the diplomatic corp? Bet they hung in air conditioned bars inside the green zone more than those reporters did. And the reporters only went where they were allowed to go once they were out of the cocoon of the green zone.

#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-05 06:11 PM | Reply

The TSA harasses people everday. BFD
Asking questions is not harassing, unless the questionee is some entitled little beoch.

#14 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-05 09:16 AM | Reply

Right; every time I come back to the States, I have to admit to writing propaganda before being permitted to enter.

#34 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-10-05 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not acceptable.

Not in my America.

Time to start suing everyone and everything in sight.

It's the Trumptilian way.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-05 08:54 PM | Reply

Chelsea Manning went to prison for us to know that's not always true.
Pat Tillmam's death resulted in a cover-up to maintain that fiction.
And this is why you might rightfully view the free press as your enemy.

#28 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-10-05 05:52 PM | REPLY |

If it wasn't for the free press that fiction would have been maintained for eternity. The military would never admit one of their own was killed by friendly fire if they did not have evidence provided to the public by the free press.

From Wikipedia:

In response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by the Associated Press, the Defense Department released 2,300 pages of documents which were reported to indicate:

There has never been evidence of enemy fire found on the scene, and no members of Tillman's group had been hit by enemy fire.
The three-star general who withheld details of Tillman's death from his parents for a number of months told investigators approximately 70 times that he had a bad memory and could not recall details of his actions.
Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments.
Army doctors told the investigators that Tillman's wounds suggested murder because "the medical evidence did not match-up with the scenario as described."

#36 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-10-06 12:06 AM | Reply

>"You write propaganda, right?"
lmao
leftists have had their cognitive dissonance of "support the state vs. support warmongerers" resolved for them since the obomber years.

#37 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-10-06 03:43 AM | Reply

"Picture this happening to "conservative" and intellectual icon, Steven Seagal"

You mean Putin's buddy Steven Seagal. Putin's buddies are the new American patriots. The entire Trump family is in the brotherhood or sisterhood. Our despicable first family are all traitors to their country. And the second family isn't far behind.

#38 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-06 10:01 AM | Reply

...Over the past year, several journalists have reported being harassed and even detained by U.S. customs agents.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter

Soit is OK for a journalism to harass someone but when someone harass them they can scream bloody murder? How nice.

#39 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-10-06 02:01 PM | Reply

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