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Monday, October 07, 2019

Since coming into force in 2002, the Open Skies Treaty has become a key tool for the U.S. and its European allies to monitor Russian military deployments to former Soviet satellite countries, including Russian aggression in Ukraine. Withdrawing from the treaty could upend this transatlantic alliance, and place Ukraine at greater risk.

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Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY), chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, sent a letter to National Security Adviser Robert O'Brien on Monday, expressing his alarm over Trump's reported plans to leave the treaty. "I am deeply concerned by reports that the Trump Administration is considering withdrawing from the Open Skies Treaty and strongly urge you against such a reckless action... American withdrawal would only benefit Russia and be harmful to our allies' and partners' national security interests," Engel wrote. "... The United States should prepare for the challenge that Russia presents"not abandon mechanisms that provide the United States with an important tool in maintaining surveillance on Russia."
It's only Monday. At this rate, Trump may pull us out of NATO by the weekend.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-10-07 09:32 PM | Reply

Another birthday present for Vlad?:

Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews

The Trump administration is pulling out of the Open Skies Treaty, which allows the United States and our allies and partners in Europe to monitor Russian military deployments. Withdrawal risks dividing the transatlantic alliance.

Adam Parkhomenko @AdamParkhomenko

Adam Parkhomenko Retweeted Julia Davis
Why is he hitting fast forward on Putin's to-do list?

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-07 09:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Why is he hitting fast forward on Putin's to-do list?"

Because Putin believes Trump isn't going to get a second term? (i.e. So much to do and so little time)

#3 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-10-07 11:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Or because Putin is requiring more return on his investment before he agrees to help Trump in 2020?

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-07 11:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Imagine if we responded to the Cuban missile crisis by stopping monitoring of Cuba.

#5 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-10-07 11:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

GAL

I've thought for a long time that Putin is waning. Trump's been so preoccupied with his own sick agenda for the past three years that Russia's agenda was getting short shifted.

However, this impeachment thing is going to end up hurting Trump's badly in 2020 plus Putin probably has a better read on Trump's re-election prospects than we do. It's their investment. The pressure has no doubt ramped up quite a bit recently. That's also probably why Trump is throwing the Kurds to the wolves, too.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-10-08 12:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I also wonder sometimes if Joe Biden is the rabbit in this race to keep Trump occupied while Warren ends up being the nominee.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-10-08 12:37 AM | Reply

That's also probably why Trump is throwing the Kurds to the wolves, too.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-10-08 12:26 AM

That's what Trump's best at, isn't it? Throwing things and people to the wolves? Kurds now. Earlier it was farmers, kids, NATO, the Constitution; numerous "friends". I'm sure part of it is paying off someone he owes something to, like Putin. I'm also certain that it's the easiest way he knows to get some attention; to feel of so powerful. Like the kid who craps in the swimming pool to see everyone else have to leave the water.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 07:58 AM | Reply

It's only Monday. At this rate, Trump may pull us out of NATO by the weekend.
#1 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

That would be better than pulling out of Syria.

It's long past due to scale down the MIC.

You people are all too paranoiac about the Russians.
You've soaked up too much MSM propaganda.

#9 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-08 08:12 AM | Reply

You people are all too paranoiac about the Russians.

#9 | Posted by Ray at 20

Perhaps it's to balance out Trump's obvious love for Putin?

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 08:14 AM | Reply

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RAY and others support the Joker because in his madness he occasionally drops them a crumb of something they want. They're like crackles who march around the parking lot Burger King hoping someone will lose a fry.

I think this explains Trumpism in some large part.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 08:17 AM | Reply

It's early in the morning but not too soon to ask who Trump will betray today. And if he betrays the right persons some of you are going to be tickled pink and defend his behavior. This is not prediction, this is a recognition of your pattern to date.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 08:20 AM | Reply

NERF applauds Trump betraying the Kurds.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 08:21 AM | Reply

NULLI has been heard applauding the demise of the farmers.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 08:22 AM | Reply

Everyone is getting what someone thinks they deserve.

Hell, I think I've explained another large part of Trumpism.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 08:23 AM | Reply

That's four incoherent posts in a row. The record is seven.

Are you on drugs?

#16 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-08 08:27 AM | Reply

I stand corrected. In the time I was writing, you added two more posts.
That makes six incoherent posts in a row.

#17 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-08 08:29 AM | Reply

As someone familiar with Open Skies, the impact is negligible. The flights and flight paths are announced so far in advance that all the important stuff can be concealed. Satellite imagery is superior, and it's pervasive. The only reasons to maintain Open Skies are political, not strategic.

#18 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-10-08 08:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That makes six incoherent posts in a row.

#17 | Posted by Ray

I cohere just fine, RAY. You're just pissed I compared you and your friends to scavenger birds.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 08:34 AM | Reply

Getting an occasional crumb from some bastard who would step on you if you came too near is actually rational behavior, when considered as how the behavioral conditioning of animals works.

But I was wrong in comparing you to grackles. It does a disservice to them. Grackles are very bright; self-aware. They know what they're doing, always

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 08:37 AM | Reply

"They're like crackles who march around the parking lot Burger King hoping someone will lose a fry.
I think this explains Trumpism in some large part."

It is the basis for "trickle down economics," morons hoping for crumbs.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-08 08:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So we face yet another day wondering what or who Donald Trump will assault or otherwise f--- over.

Anyone care to guess?

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 08:38 AM | Reply

I cohere just fine, RAY. You're just pissed I compared you and your friends to scavenger birds.
#19 | POSTED BY ZED

Zed, I don't know you nor does your existence matter to me.

I wouldn't waste my energy getting pissed at you or any of the other leftist ideologues on this site.

I post here because I enjoy the mental exercise. There is no more to it than that.

#23 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-08 09:14 AM | Reply

That's four incoherent posts in a row. The record is seven.

Are you on drugs?

#16 | POSTED BY RAY

Incoherent in the way a crazy person doesn't understand why they're in a straight jacket...

Your lunacy is so deep you've lost sight of reason.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-08 09:28 AM | Reply

I post here because I enjoy the mental exercise.

#23 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-08 09:14

Pressing ten pounds yet?

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 09:34 AM | Reply

Seen "Joker" yet, RAY? You really need to.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 09:36 AM | Reply

Seen "Joker" yet, RAY? You really need to.
#26 | POSTED BY ZED

From what I've read, the movie is about a loser. I'll be thinking of you.

#27 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-08 09:44 AM | Reply

Your lunacy is so deep you've lost sight of reason.
#24 | POSTED BY JPW

So says the man from the left.

#28 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-08 09:45 AM | Reply

I'll be thinking of you.

#27 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-08 09:44 AM | Reply

Great. Be sure to wear your mask. I'm sure that will upset no one at all.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 10:02 AM | Reply

#28 that you think I'm that far left shows how deep you are in the muck, mr "independent thinker".

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-08 10:03 AM | Reply

ZED @ #8

"That's what Trump's best at, isn't it?"

What he's best at is hurting people. I think it gives him that sense of ultimate power he's never had his whole life.

If he wasn't born with money he'd probably end up a compulsive serial killer.

#31 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-10-08 12:48 PM | Reply

You people are all too paranoiac about the Russians.
You've soaked up too much MSM propaganda.

#9 | POSTED BY RAY

They invaded one of our allies...
They interfered in US elections...
They interfered in European elections...
They literally assassinate people they don't like on foreign soil...

Do I need to keep going?

#32 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-10-08 12:49 PM | Reply

As someone familiar with Open Skies, the impact is negligible. The flights and flight paths are announced so far in advance that all the important stuff can be concealed. Satellite imagery is superior, and it's pervasive. The only reasons to maintain Open Skies are political, not strategic.

#18 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

The flights are announced on short notice.
The satellite imagery is not superior. We don't have enough nor the types of imagery we can get from flights.

What benefit do we gain by pulling out? None.
Who benefits? Russia.

#33 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-10-08 12:50 PM | Reply

Ray,
Do you know Trump has a toilet made of gold?
Do you know what he does to that poor gold?
He ------ allll over it. All over the gold, Ray.

#34 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-10-08 12:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

American withdrawal would only benefit Russia

Oh wow, must just be coincidence #9,884,958.

#35 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-08 01:07 PM | Reply

"Withdrawing from the treaty could upend this transatlantic alliance, and place Ukraine at greater risk."

Whoever replaces Trump won't be able to claw back much of what Trump has given and will continue to give away.
But that's probably all part of the plan at this point.

The GOP will look at the mess he leaves behind and decide the appropriate thing to do is:
Austerity, in light of our diminished status and lowered economic standing in the world.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-08 05:00 PM | Reply

"They invaded one of our allies...
They interfered in US elections...
They interfered in European elections...
They literally assassinate people they don't like on foreign soil...
Do I need to keep going?
#32 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT "

Are you talking about the Chi-coms or the Israelis?

#37 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-10-09 10:09 AM | Reply

"They invaded one of our allies...
They interfered in US elections...
They interfered in European elections...
They literally assassinate people they don't like on foreign soil...
Do I need to keep going?
#32 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT "

Are you talking about the Chi-coms or the Israelis?
#37 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Wow. That's a pretty pathetic deflection even for you.

How much does Putin pay you to post?

#38 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-10-09 12:12 PM | Reply

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