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Tuesday, October 08, 2019

Donald Trump got "rolled" by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a National Security Council source with direct knowledge of the discussions told Newsweek.

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"Donald Trump got "rolled" by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan"

I never heard Rick Astley dubbed for Turkish audiences.

Trump-Erdogan: Together Forever

#1 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-10-08 02:31 PM | Reply

Betrayal of wartime allies is, at least in recent memory, as American as apple pie.

In this case, there is prolly a Trump Ankara Hotel in the werks.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-08 03:00 PM | Reply

"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something"but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."

FROM THE ARTICLE

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If Trump were female he'd be in the family way all the time.

First said concerning another very bad president.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-08 03:03 PM | Reply

FROM THE ARTICLE
#3 | POSTED BY ZED

The Art of the Deal was never idealized as a method that could be utilized for the betterment of the country; it was only meant to benefit personal wealth, more importantly, Donald Trump's wealth.

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-10-08 04:14 PM | Reply

Frankly speaking, it would not be surprising to see Erdogan free the Daesh prisoners. He's closer to ISIS himself than people acknowledge.

I again say we support a the formation of a Kurdish homeland. Take parts of Syria, Iraqi Kurdistan and make it a nation. They have been on our one true and stable partner as a people in the region for several decades. Setup a couple military bases there and we won't need the Saudis, Iraqis or the rest nearly as much.

I mean they are not religious radicals and only need reasonable support to make them a stable nation and quite possibly a stabilizing force in the region. The problem is we keep screwing them.

#6 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-10-08 04:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Should have stayed on the golf course that afternoon...

#7 | Posted by catdog at 2019-10-08 05:51 PM | Reply

BTW: Ever notice how in situations where Trump does something demonstrably stupid and widely opposed by folks who know better (e.g., GOP Senators, military brass, and Fox News) he then reacts by putting out cheap threats and unhinged rants, just as he did by warning the Turks about the demolition of their economy and bragging about his wizard-like powers? He does so to try to save face, in a bold attempt to close the barn door after the horse has run off, been found and then sold off to make dog food. At least he is consistent in acknowledging his ---------- letting loose the petulant four year-old inside his head...

#8 | Posted by catdog at 2019-10-08 06:02 PM | Reply

Take parts of Syria, Iraqi Kurdistan and make it a nation.
hear hear

The Kurds are the largest nation of people without a state. 30 million or there about. They were holding those hills when Istanbul was Constantinople. If Erdogan wants to bury them he better dig two graves.

#9 | Posted by BluSky at 2019-10-09 01:36 AM | Reply

I guess Turkey's neighbors will have to act as it is their National Security issue, not the US.

#10 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-10-09 07:15 AM | Reply

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"I again say we support a the formation of a Kurdish homeland."

Putin's, and now Egodan's bitch could never consider such a bold move without his master's permission and he will never get it. Yeah, that bitch is going to destroy Turkey's economy and claims to have done it in the past. He's a joke and many leaders around the world have totally realized it.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-09 08:34 AM | Reply

Utter nonsense. MIC is pissed because they are being benched - sorry guys, you will have to get real jobs. Good news is the economy is booming.

#12 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-10-09 09:25 AM | Reply

in a bold attempt to close the barn door after the horse has run off, been found and then sold off to make dog food.

In a barn door he himself opened and lit the fire in the hay loft. Now where is Mike Pence? The bus is here.

#13 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2019-10-09 10:33 AM | Reply

So. Much. Winning.

#14 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-10-09 11:36 AM | Reply

"Should have stayed on the golf course that afternoon..."

The best possible outcome would be one where Trump spends his every waking minute on the golf course...and away from the grown-up ----.

#15 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-09 02:44 PM | Reply

"Utter nonsense. MIC is pissed because they are being benched - sorry guys, you will have to get real jobs. Good news is the economy is booming."

Yeah.

The "MIC" in that part of Syria consisted of a few UAVs, a few manned sorties, and a couple hundred Task Force operators. All of whom will continue to get paid.

I just wonder how hard it was for the Task Force guys to tell their SDF counterparts that they were on their own because Donny had made a call.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-09 02:50 PM | Reply

Of course he got rolled. Hopefully it wasn't in flour.

#17 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2019-10-09 06:49 PM | Reply

I just wonder how hard it was for the Task Force guys to tell their SDF counterparts that they were on their own because Donny had made a call.
#16 | Posted by madbomber

Ken Dilanian @KenDilanianNBC

A former operator tells me: "I've worked directly with the SDF and had many fighters from the group I grew to trust with my life. Now I realize they are all going to be killed or detained after we betrayed them"killed with weapons we gave to Turkey."
6:30 AM - 9 Oct 2019

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-09 08:02 PM | Reply

#16 Posted this in another thread but wanted you to see this Fox News report:

Jennifer Griffin @JenGriffinFNC

I just spoke to a distraught US Special Forces soldier who is among the 1000 or so US troops in Syria tonight who is serving alongside the SDF Kurdish forces. It was one of the hardest phone calls I have ever taken.
"I am ashamed for the first time in my career."

This veteran US Special forces soldier has trained indigenous forces on multiple continents. He is on the frontlines tonight and said they are witnessing Turkish atrocities.

"Turkey is not doing what it agreed to. It's horrible," this military source on the ground told me.

"We met every single security agreement. The Kurds met every single agreement. There was NO threat to the Turks - NONE - from this side of the border." "This is insanity," the concerned US service member told me. ""I don't know what they call atrocities but they are happening."

This American soldier told me the Kurds have not left their positions guarding the ISIS prisoners. In fact "they prevented a prison break last night without us."
"They are not abandoning our side (yet)."
The Kurds are "pleading for our support." We are doing "nothing."

Troops on the ground in Syria and their commanders were "surprised" by the decision Sunday night.
Of the President's decision: "He doesn't understand the problem. He doesn't understand the repercussions of this. Erdogan is an Islamist, not a level headed actor."

Acc to this US soldier on the ground tonight in Syria: "The Kurds are as close to Western thinking in the Middle East as anyone. "It's a shame. It's horrible." "This is not helping the ISIS fight." Re: ISIS prisoners: "Many of them will be free in the coming days and weeks."

This US Special Forces soldier wanted me to know: "The Kurds are sticking by us. No other partner I have ever dealt with would stand by us."
Disappointed in the decisions coming from their senior leaders.


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#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 12:51 AM | Reply

The decision is not coming from Senior Leaders. The decision is coming from one, single, highly uninformed, highly "out-of-his-element" president.

Matthis quit when Trump made the decision to pull out in December. And neither SEDEF nor the USCENTCOM Commander were consulted prior to the announcement being made.

The DOD was able to walk that one back. I don't think it can be done this time.

#20 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-10 01:47 AM | Reply

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