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Wednesday, October 09, 2019

One of the common threads tying together many of Donald Trump's disparate scandals is an unsettling idea touted by his lawyers and defenders: the president must be freed from the burdens of accountability.

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Follow the law as it relates to disclosing tax returns? No, Team Trump says, because a president can't be investigated. Follow legal precedent related to grand jury testimony during impeachment proceedings? No, Team Trump says, because the president operates above the law. Cooperate with a congressional impeachment inquiry? No, Team Trump says, because a president can pick and choose which legal processes he deems legitimate.

With this in mind, White House Counsel Pat Cipollone wrote a ridiculous letter to congressional leaders yesterday, effectively making the case that the president considers the ongoing impeachment proceedings "unconstitutional" and has therefore decided to defy lawmakers' efforts to hold him accountable.

Walter Shaub, the former director of the Office of Government Ethics went on to say, in reference to the White House counsel's bizarre argument, "Its underlining assumption, that the executive must consent to an impeachment inquiry, mistakes Trump for a king."

Neal Katyal, the former acting U.S. solicitor general, drew a similar conclusion, noting on Twitter that Cipollone is "saying in effect" that the American president is "a king."

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-10-09 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

that the American president is "a king."

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-10-09 01:32 PMFlag: ReceivedFunnyNewsworthy

That's what many of his supporters want. They want a "Kingfish". Saw a statue to Huey Long in the Capitol this year. Wonder what happened to him?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-09 04:05 PM | Reply

Porky wants to be king? Fair enough. How bout Louis XVI.

#3 | Posted by contrecoup at 2019-10-09 10:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donald Dupe knows about as much about Rex Lex as he does 2 Corinthians.

"A third contribution comes to us in the form of political philosophy. It is his book Lex Rex. The Latin title simply means "the law is king."

This was contrary to the opposite Rex Lex, "the king is law." In this book, Rutherford argues for constitutionalism, meaning that the government should not be a monarchy or an oligarchy or a dictatorship, in which the nation is ruled by an individual or an elite few.

Rutherford argued that a rule of law is what is best for the people. The book was published in 1644 and had a significant impact not only in that century but especially in the next century as modern nation-states took shape."

www.5minutesinchurchhistory.com

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-09 11:05 PM | Reply

what a bucnch of cognative dissonant dopes

#5 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-10-10 02:47 AM | Reply

I said this in a different thread.

If the legislative branch doesn't act as an equal to the executive branch then Trump is the emperor.

Even without the senate. The House needs to show its teeth.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-10-10 05:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The House needs to make their case but they need to do a better job of it. They are failing at making the American people understand why impeachment is necessary. Nancy Pelosi needs to retire and allow a younger person with more fire in their guts become Speaker. AOC?

#7 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-10 07:36 AM | Reply

We will make him Czar. That title worked out well for Nicholas II. For a time...
--Vlad, the Czar maker

#8 | Posted by catdog at 2019-10-10 09:38 AM | Reply

The Fox guest using the word "regicide" says it all, doesn't it?

#9 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-10 09:39 AM | Reply

A king is not a king until someone or some group fashions the throne that he will eventually sit upon.

#10 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-10-10 09:44 AM | Reply

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A king is not a king until someone or some group fashions the throne that he will eventually sit upon.
POSTED BY NERFHERDER AT 2019-10-10 09:44 AM | REPLY

A toilet works.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-10-10 09:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Whether we have a "King" or not will be decided by the crooked, partisan, Republican Supreme Court. I have my doubts about them standing up to King Donald.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-10 09:55 AM | Reply

And make no mistake, Princess Ivanka and Prince Don Jr. are already choosing outfits for the coronation.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-10 09:58 AM | Reply

There's a reason the Constitution creates the Congress in the first article and the presidency in the second article.

#14 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-10-10 10:25 AM | Reply

"There's a reason the Constitution creates the Congress in the first article and the presidency in the second article."

Then they should have provided some authority for Congress to enforce their subpoenas. The SC should have had their authority limited and their terms limited as well. The SC of the U.S. is now just an arm of the Republican Party and will be for decades.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-10 10:58 AM | Reply

The House needs to make their case but they need to do a better job of it. They are failing at making the American people understand why impeachment is necessary.

Support for impeachment and removal have both skyrocketed since she announced the inquiry. I'd say she's doing pretty good.

My only beef with Pelosi is her refusal to invoke the House's inherent contempt powers against people who absolutely deserve it. I don't believe she's spoken on this issue so perhaps it's coming.

#16 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-10 11:09 AM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY JOE

Unless something is truly blatant and is caught on camera impeachment is always going to be a somewhat drawn-out process. Like you alluded to - gotta first build public support.

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-10 11:21 AM | Reply

"My only beef with Pelosi is her refusal to invoke the House's inherent contempt powers against people who absolutely deserve it. I don't believe she's spoken on this issue so perhaps it's coming."

With Trump refusing to cooperate in any way how is she going to enforce anything?

#18 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-10 11:52 AM | Reply

"Unless something is truly blatant and is caught on camera impeachment is always going to be a somewhat drawn-out process. Like you alluded to - gotta first build public support."

Trump's conversation has been acknowledged by the summary of it which Trump supplied. It wasn't an exact transcript but just the conversation reported in it is completely enough to justify impeachment. Trump and his band of incompetents has virtually convicted him on their own.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-10 11:55 AM | Reply

With Trump refusing to cooperate in any way how is she going to enforce anything?

This will give her a better case for enforcement. The House can hold anyone who doesn't comply with a subpoena in contempt and actually has the power to put them in jail, which it used to do with some regularity. The way i see it, if they throw a few of these -------- in jail it might make the rest of them think twice before relying on bogus claims of privilege.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-10 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Unless something is truly blatant and is caught on camera impeachment is always going to be a somewhat drawn-out process

I don't see most Republicans turning on Trump even if that did happen. Honestly, try to think of something that could be caught on camera that would actually make people who still support Trump rethink their allegiance to him. I can't even come up with an examplr.

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-10 12:01 PM | Reply

Same rhetoric, different party. Liberals mistook Obama for a Messiah and all we got were articles from Cons talking about how bad that is. Cons revere Trump and of course Liberals give the same treatment.

In reality, each party swears the POTUS is either worthy of adoration because he belongs to their party or is worthy of scorn because he doesn't belong to their party.

#22 | Posted by humtake at 2019-10-10 12:29 PM | Reply

#22 one silver lining of the Trump years, if we come out of them better off, is that maybe people won't think the opposing candidate is the anti-Christ every single election.

Looking back, Romney, McCain and, I cant believe I'm going to say this, Palin weren't really as bad as they were painted to be.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-10 01:33 PM | Reply

#22 one silver lining of the Trump years, if we come out of them better off, is that maybe people won't think the opposing candidate is the anti-Christ every single election.

JPW

I used to get chain emails forwarded from Baptist cousins and always wondered how every single Democratic presidential candidate/POTUS could be the anti-Christ.

#24 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 01:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#7 | Posted by danni

They are going to drag this out until well into next year. As in election time.

#25 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-10-10 02:09 PM | Reply

#21 | Posted by JOE

Depends on public sentiment. Even Texas is leaning toward impeachment.

#26 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-10-10 02:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In reality, each party swears the POTUS is either worthy of adoration because he belongs to their party or is worthy of scorn because he doesn't belong to their party.

#22 | Posted by humtake at

If Trump isn't worth impeaching then no one is.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-10 02:22 PM | Reply

In reality, each party swears the POTUS is either worthy of adoration because he belongs to their party or is worthy of scorn because he doesn't belong to their party.

#22 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2019-10-10 12:29 PM | REPLY

Adoration is not a term I would use for any president or candidate.

One side does things to intentionally hurt Americans and says life is unfair, use it to your advantage no matter who it hurts. The other side does things to help Americans and says life is unfair. Lets make it less unfair.

#28 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-10-10 03:17 PM | Reply

Same rhetoric, different party. Liberals mistook Obama for a Messiah and all we got were articles from Cons talking about how bad that is. Cons revere Trump and of course Liberals give the same treatment.
In reality, each party swears the POTUS is either worthy of adoration because he belongs to their party or is worthy of scorn because he doesn't belong to their party.

#22 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

You know, except all those laws Trump keeps breaking...

But hey, details, am I right?

#29 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-10-10 03:38 PM | Reply

No Liberal ever called Obama the M word. You have holes in your brain.

#30 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-10 08:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

One of the Talibaptist leaders (I think Falwell) said that Combover Quisling was "sent by God." That is the textbook definition of "messiah."

The other night on Faux Spews Joe deGenova referred to the Dems impeachment of Dolt45 as "regicide" twice! Regicide is the killing of a king.

Drumpf's attorneys have argued in court that since he cannot be indicted due to the OLC memo that he is is essentially above the law, HE CANNOT EVEN BE INVESTIGATED.

None of those statements has EVER been true of ANY Dem POTUS at any time. Clinton turned over documents and cooperated with Congress in spite of casting the impeachment as wrong because it sprung from a personal relationship. Obama was never personally investigated because he ran a clean administration, and was persinally squeaky clean, which to this day somehow pisses off the Reich.

#31 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2019-10-11 12:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah, king ding-a-ling!!

#32 | Posted by rom12v19 at 2019-10-11 12:58 PM | Reply

"...One of the common threads tying together many of Donald Trump's disparate scandals is an unsettling idea touted by his lawyers and defenders: the president must be freed from the burdens of accountability."

Never true.

And certainly not for someone who retains the decision making capacity of me, after a 5th of vodka and a handful of valium.

#33 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-11 01:07 PM | Reply

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