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Thursday, October 10, 2019

Two associates of the president's private lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, who helped fund efforts to investigate one of President Trump's political rivals, have been arrested and were expected to appear in court in Northern Virginia on Thursday.

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2 Guys Who Helped Giuliani Go After Biden in Ukraine Were Just Arrested.
Two Soviet-born businessmen are at the center of President Trump's Ukraine scandal were just taken into custody.

www.vice.com

#1 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-10 10:12 AM | Reply

The wheels might be coming off the bus...

#2 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-10 11:11 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

From the cited article:

...The two men, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, believed to be important witnesses in the House's impeachment inquiry of Mr. Trump, were arrested on campaign finance charges. The arrests and charges were first reported by The Wall Street Journal. Two other men, David Correia and Andrey Kukushkin, were also indicted. ...

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-10 11:17 AM | Reply

It's amazing how many people with at least loose ties to Trump end up being arrested.

Zed is going to have to order up some more handcuffs.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-10 11:18 AM | Reply

This seems...significant. It won't be to Trumptards though.

I wonder what Consigliere Barr thinks about this US Attorney getting a little too close to his boss.

#5 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-10 11:19 AM | Reply

It's amazing how many people with at least loose ties to Trump end up being arrested.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ

Not as amazing as the fact that seemingly intelligent adults still give him the benefit of the doubt.

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"The wheels might be coming off the bus..."

Oft repeated phrase.
#boy/wolf

#7 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-10 11:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Zed is going to have to order up some more handcuffs."

They are on order along with a box of probe forms and subpoena forms.

#8 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-10 11:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Zed is going to have to order up some more handcuffs."

The handcuffs are prepositioned somewhere on the White House lawn.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-10 11:29 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#9 | POSTED BY ZED

FF!

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-10 11:29 AM | Reply

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Not as amazing as the fact that seemingly intelligent adults still give him the benefit of the doubt.

#6 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-10-10 11:19 AM | FLAG:

Can't say that about you though, the seemingly intelligent part.

#11 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-10-10 11:33 AM | Reply

Trump will deny knowing Giuliani and then blame him for Ukraine in the next sentence.

#12 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 11:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Just another nuttinburger!!

Am I right?? Nice try libs. Ghouliani is just the spawn of Satan. Trumpy don't know Nuttin about Nuttin.

Nothing to see here people. Just more Libby Nuttinburgers here!!

Move along... move along..

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-10 11:53 AM | Reply

I bet the guys who have been arrested are thrilled to know Giuliani is there to defend them...hahahahahaha!

#14 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-10 11:57 AM | Reply

The wheels might be coming off the bus..."
Oft repeated phrase.
#boy/wolf

#7 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2019-10-10 11:19 AM | FLAG:

Oft repeated phrase.
Birds, feathers/flock

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-10 12:05 PM | Reply

"Last month, Mr. Giuliani sought to minimize the significance of the campaign finance inquiry into the two men.

"They had a campaign finance issue," he said in an interview late last month. "I referred them to a campaign finance expert who pretty much resolved it.""

Oh it's being resolved Rudy.

#16 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-10-10 12:12 PM | Reply

It's amazing how many people with at least loose ties to Trump end up being arrested.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ

Trump is either a criminal or dumb.

It's probably a good dose of both.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-10-10 12:16 PM | Reply

It's amazing how many people with at least loose ties to Trump end up being arrested.
#4 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Is it though? Trump has long been sleazy and ran within sleazy circles. I'm honestly surprised the extra scrutiny he subjected himself to has not resulted in a major mafia ring take down yet.

#18 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-10-10 12:20 PM | Reply

"Trump is either a criminal or dumb."

Trump is not dumb.

He thinks he knows exactly what he is doing.

He also thinks he understands the Constitution.

He is wrong. On both counts.

He made a big mistake obstructing justice by obstructing Congress.

The piper is calling. Time to pay the piper.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-10 12:24 PM | Reply

It's amazing how many people with at least loose ties to Trump end up being arrested.
#4 | Posted by JeffJ

Is it?

If we investigated every person in DC how many do you think we could "arrest"?

My point is everyone is literally guilty of breaking the law, because there are so many and difficult to understand and navigate as an average person.

If the "government" wants you to be arrested it will do it. Looking at the attempts by Leftleaning antiTrumpers to bend the law to get at Trump, is it any wonder people around him are being "arrested"?

The real question is what is the crime, and are they really guilty.

The purpose of this exercise is to convert people like you to think everyone around Trump is a crook a criminal. yada yad yada.

The two men, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, believed to be important witnesses in the House's impeachment inquiry of Mr. Trump, were arrested on campaign finance charges. The arrests and charges were first reported by The Wall Street Journal. Two other men, David Correia and Andrey Kukushkin, were also indicted.

Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman aided Mr. Giuliani's efforts to gin up investigations in Ukraine into former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, among other potentially politically beneficial investigations for Mr. Trump. Mr. Parnas had been scheduled to participate in a deposition with House impeachment investigators on Capitol Hill on Thursday, and Mr. Fruman on Friday. Neither had been expected to show up voluntarily. House Democrats were preparing to issue subpoenas to force them to do so.
www.nytimes.com

Quite the coincidence.

#20 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-10 12:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

He made a big mistake obstructing justice by obstructing Congress.
The piper is calling. Time to pay the piper.

#19 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2019-10-10 12:24 PM | FLAG:

LOL. Obstructing Congress. Is this going to be the subject of another investigation? Time to pay the piper, hmmm, like the last 3 years. You must be dizzy from chasing your own tail.

#21 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-10-10 12:35 PM | Reply

My point is everyone is literally guilty of breaking the law, because there are so many and difficult to understand and navigate as an average person.

If the "government" wants you to be arrested it will do it. Looking at the attempts by Leftleaning antiTrumpers to bend the law to get at Trump, is it any wonder people around him are being "arrested"?

The real question is what is the crime, and are they really guilty.

Jesus how pathetic of a sycophantic cultist can you be?

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-10 12:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You must be dizzy from chasing your own tail.

#21 | Posted by fishpaw

You must be full from all the bullschitt you willingly swallow.

My question in post 22 applies to you as well.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-10 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--If we investigated every person in DC how many do you think we could "arrest"?

Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
--Laventry Beria

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-10 12:43 PM | Reply

LOL. Obstructing Congress. Is this going to be the subject of another investigation? Time to pay the piper, hmmm, like the last 3 years.

#21 | Posted by fishpaw

Some of us have always thought it was highly likely this was going to end up in an actual firefight on the White House grounds.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-10 12:52 PM | Reply

LOL. Obstructing Congress. Is this going to be the subject of another investigation? Time to pay the piper, hmmm, like the last 3 years.

#21 | Posted by fishpaw

Some of us always thought that Trump would attempt to stage some form of coup and know what? That's exactly what he's done.

Matters could only be more plain when Trump orders certain political figures and members of Congress arrested.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-10 12:55 PM | Reply

I'll wager Rudy will not be so chatty on the TV for a while. He has had some interesting work since his days as a federal prosecutor...

#27 | Posted by catdog at 2019-10-10 12:56 PM | Reply

I'll wager Rudy will not be so chatty on the TV for a while. He has had some interesting work since his days as a federal prosecutor...

#27 | Posted by catdog at 2019

His career as a male prostitute for the Trump Administration has indeed been interesting.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-10 12:57 PM | Reply

The Trumpist hacks making excuses on this thread don't surprise me, but it's still amazing to think that nothing can move them off their ridiculous position that Team Trump is a victim of some nefarious plot involving 3/4 of the world, rather than the perpetrator of a series of ongoing scandals unmatched in modern times.

#29 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-10 01:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#20 ... My point is everyone is literally guilty of breaking the law ...

... but Mom, everyone is doing it, why can't I? ...

I remember the answer I always used to hear whenever i raised that line of defense.

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-10 01:03 PM | Reply

House of Representatives is going to vote for impeachment any minute now, right guys?

When's the vote scheduled?

Not this week?

But this is the beginining of the end, right?

You said the wheels are falling off, right?

That must mean *the walls are closing in!*

LOL

#31 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 01:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You must be dizzy from chasing your own tail.

#21 | POSTED BY FISHPAW AT 2019-10-10 12:35 PM | FLAG: PPPFFFTTTTTTT

Awwwwww -------- swan to the wrong side of history again now he's just another stinky side floater in the cesspool of republiclownery.

#32 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-10-10 01:08 PM | Reply

"#31 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH "

Hey, man -- I was hoping you'd pop up one day. Good to see you.

#33 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For some reason, when I read about the shenanigans in Ukraine, I hear George Costanza's voice.

"Ukraine, Jerry! Ukraine! You can do anything you want there and nobody cares! Nobody cares!"

#34 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 01:09 PM | Reply

These days one can't tell whether the charges are real or trumped up.

#35 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-10 01:09 PM | Reply

These days one can't tell whether the charges are real or trumped up.

#35 | Posted by Ray

Unless you're not a moron...

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-10 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#20

It depends on who they want to get. Trump is easy because he doesn't play the D.C. game. Getting Trump is the path of least resistance.

#37 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 01:15 PM | Reply

an't say that about you though, the seemingly intelligent part.

#11 | Posted by fishpaw

Problem with supporting trump is you sacrifice the ability to ever credibly call anyone else stupid. Your cult admires and celebrates stupidity. And thinks intelligence is a sign of corrupt elitism.

#38 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 01:20 PM | Reply

These days one can't tell whether the charges are real or trumped up.

#35 | Posted by Ray

Here's a hint: are the charges coming from a lifelong con man, liar, and cheater?

Or are they AGAINST a lifelong con man, liar, and cheater?

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 01:21 PM | Reply

The only difference between Trump's corruption and the Clinton's corruption is Trump is dumb enough to do it out in the open. He doesn't have the connections to keep it down. If Trump could've STFU and surrounded himself with the typical D.C. suspects, he'd be in the clear. But, then he wouldn't be the wrecking ball his people voted for. He made his choice.

#40 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 01:22 PM | Reply

Trump is easy because he doesn't play the D.C. game.
#37 | Posted by lee_the_agent

yeah that's why he filled his white house with lobbyists and bankers right?

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 01:22 PM | Reply

#35

I see what you did there. Good one.

#42 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 01:24 PM | Reply

#41

They all do, right?

Here we go.

#43 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 01:25 PM | Reply

#41 - and Russians and strippers and white nationalists and jesuits and various and sundry other America-hating incompetents...

#44 | Posted by kudzu at 2019-10-10 01:27 PM | Reply

- he wouldn't be the wrecking ball his people voted for

That's just so obtuse. The swamp is deeper and dirtier than ever. He doesn't play the game for the same reason he doesn't play checkers; he doesn't know how.

Any idea that Trump was somehow the working man's hero should have died at birth.

Funny though to see Dulli still carrying his dirty water... just like Dicksville. They are two peas in the same dumbass pod.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-10 01:30 PM | Reply

The House just subpoenaed them.

news.google.com

Will Trump try to claim 'executive privilege?' LOL

#46 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 01:33 PM | Reply

"The only difference between Trump's corruption and the Clinton's corruption is Trump is dumb enough to do it out in the open."

There's a major difference you're papering over here:

I'm not aware of any Clinton initiatives to abandon America's leadership role in the post-WWII hegemony, like Trump is doing.

Enough with the tired old "the parties are the same" BS.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-10 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#45

P.T. Barnum with a spray tan.

#48 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Breaking Explosive Bombshell news for 10/10/2019!!!
Subpoena #437 issued!!
The White House Quartermaster discovered a rusty stain on Trump's shorts that resembles John Kkkarl!!!
Investigation #211 issued!!
Impeach!!

#49 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-10 01:38 PM | Reply

The purpose of this exercise is to convert people like you to think everyone around Trump is a crook a criminal. yada yad yada.

#20 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

You appear to have conveniently forgotten about all the people around Trump who have already been convicted of crimes.

#50 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-10-10 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#47

Trump's worse. He's declared war on the Constitution and the republic. The Clinton's corruption is raking millions in 'donations' for granting favors through the foundation. I've seen the stats stating otherwise, so spare yourself the trouble of telling me. Hillary is too nefariously smart to get entangled.

#51 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 01:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The Clinton's corruption is raking millions in 'donations' for granting favors through the foundation. "

Foundation spending is transparent. Feel free to show where the Foundation funneled money to the Clintons.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-10-10 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#41

They all do, right?

Here we go.

#43 | Posted by lee_the_agent

So you've gone from "he doesn't play the DC game" to "they all do it" in 3 posts. Impressive.

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 01:48 PM | Reply

The Clinton's corruption is raking millions in 'donations' for granting favors through the foundation. I've seen the stats stating otherwise, so spare yourself the trouble of telling me. Hillary is too nefariously smart to get entangled.

#51 | Posted by lee_the_agent

The clintons never got banned from running a charity in new york because they were caught stealing from a childrens cancer charity.

TRUMP DID.
www.forbes.com

#54 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 01:50 PM | Reply

Parsing semantics with you is ponderous.

#55 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 01:51 PM | Reply

House of Representatives is going to vote for impeachment any minute now, right guys?
When's the vote scheduled?
Not this week?
But this is the beginining of the end, right?
You said the wheels are falling off, right?
That must mean *the walls are closing in!*
LOL
#31 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

The House of Representatives doesn't answer to you, so suck it up and watch them roll your boy. Pressing them to vote on impeachment before they've even done an investigation, which the WH is trying to obstruct, is amusing. It's funny because every stupid person who believes this line of attack is somehow going to work will have a different approach in 2 days, when it fails. What's the Russiapublican propaganda line going to be next week? Tune in to Hannity to find out!

Just so we're straight:

You want the House to vote before they investigate, so you can say they didn't investigate before they impeached. Then, without any evidence, you want the House to rush to the Senate to go to trial with a weak case so you can call it a nothingberder, acquit and move on to the election. Only a stupid person would believe that strategy will work.

#56 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-10 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"I've seen the stats stating otherwise"

Feel free to share. Let's see your source for these "stats".

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-10-10 01:56 PM | Reply

#36

Do me a favor, AU. If you get the chance, play That's Entertainment during one of your sets. Tell them it's a special request from me.

#58 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 01:57 PM | Reply

#57

I've seen stats showing the Clinton Foundation hasn't been exposed as being illegitimate. Like I said in the post, Hillary is too intelligent to get ensnared. She's an evil genius.

#59 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 02:00 PM | Reply

Do me a favor, AU. If you get the chance, play That's Entertainment during one of your sets. Tell them it's a special request from me.

#58 | Posted by lee_the_agent

I would if I played out live, but I don't. You should be able to find someone there in the L.A. area, though.

#60 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 02:01 PM | Reply

Only a stupid person would believe that strategy will work.

IT WILL WORK...

It'll help Trump get re-elected in 2020...

#61 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-10-10 02:01 PM | Reply

Here's a tip, Lee (old joke): When you find a band/singer you think knows that song, write your request on a $20 bill :)

#62 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The Clinton's corruption is raking millions in 'donations' for granting favors through the foundation."

Sitting aside that none of these relentless allegations have ever been substantiated by anything other than right-wing echo chamber voices like yours, the truth remains that none of the actions taken by Clinton or her orgs did anything to diminish America's standing in the world.

Whereas it sure seems like most everything Trump does is designed to diminish America's standing in the world.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-10 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Word is the two arrested at Dulles had one-way international tickets.

#64 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-10 02:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Parsing semantics with you is ponderous.

#55 | Posted by lee_the_agent

Are you really going to stick by your statement that a president who came in and filled his white house with bankers and lobbyists is really changing the DC game?

#65 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 02:08 PM | Reply

#62

Tell you what, I'll send you $50 if you play it with the windows open at 120 decibels. Deal?

#66 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 02:09 PM | Reply

#65

No. I retract it.

#67 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-10 02:09 PM | Reply

Any idea that Trump was somehow the working man's hero should have died at birth.

#45 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2019-10-10 01:30 PM | FLAG:

I always wondered how he ranted about illegal labor and his business were full of them. Call them subcontractors or what ever to distance himself but it is what it is.

In my opinion Trump was just a mouthpiece for a lot of Americans and he had a megaphone able to reach the entire world. And he said everything they wanted to say

#68 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-10 02:10 PM | Reply

"If we investigated every person in DC how many do you think we could "arrest"?"

So much for Drain The Swamp...

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-10 02:11 PM | Reply

"I would if I played out live, but I don't."

Not for lack of audience.

The bride and I were traveling through Nashville a few years back, and AU graciously met us for dinner, and then gave us a guided tour of Nashville's main music area. As we went from joint to joint, every band would greet him (Hey, AU!) and then they'd ask if he wanted to sit in. He always passed, saying he had guests, but EVERYONE knew him, and seemed honored if he'd join them.

Oh, and he snuck away from the table at dinner and picked up the check. That's aces in my book!

Anyway...if he's not playing out, it's definitely by choice.

#70 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-10-10 02:11 PM | Reply

"The bride and I were traveling through Nashville a few years back, and AU graciously met us for dinner, and then gave us a guided tour of Nashville's main music area. As we went from joint to joint, every band would greet him (Hey, AU!) and then they'd ask if he wanted to sit in. He always passed, saying he had guests, but EVERYONE knew him, and seemed honored if he'd join them.
#70 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

My brother in law was playing in a band with Johnny Neil, a very good pianist who did studio work with the Allman Brothers along with other famous bands. He's blind. AU came into a bar we were all at. Johnny said AU was the best keyboardist he knew -- except for himself.

He's pretty high strung here and ultra-huperpartisan, but that doesn't take away from his obvious music skills.

#71 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 02:17 PM | Reply

You want the House to vote before they investigate, so you can say they didn't investigate before they impeached. Then, without any evidence, you want the House to rush to the Senate to go to trial with a weak case so you can call it a nothingberder, acquit and move on to the election. Only a stupid person would believe that strategy will work.

#56 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-

CHUFFY is a very bright person.

#72 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-10 02:18 PM | Reply

Here's our "president" hanging with the campaign finance felons
www.tampabay.com

Here's apolitical businessman Don Jr. chilling with the campaign finance felons.
www.apnews.com

But Her Emails

#73 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-10 02:18 PM | Reply

Tell you what, I'll send you $50 if you play it with the windows open at 120 decibels. Deal?

#66 | Posted by lee_the_agent

We had a dog who learned how to bump against the deck gate and rattle it to get the latch undone one night. We scoured the neighborhood for a few hours but couldn't find her. I made an audio loop calling her name and blasted it to the neighborhood out 1500 watt speakers. She came home. 120 decibels can come in handy!

#74 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 02:19 PM | Reply

Arrested for campaign violations with money that was frozen. Guess Obama should have been impeached too, right children?
He just paid a $300k fine. Maybe on account of his tan.

#75 | Posted by wisgod at 2019-10-10 02:33 PM | Reply

#70 | Posted by Danforth

I really enjoyed meeting you and your wife and had a great time with y'all. What a couple of really nice people you are. :) BTW, I know most of the guys we ran into from my L.A. days or the Nashville recording scene. The only time I go downtown is when company is in from out of town. It's a hoot down there, isn't it? Reminds me of this street in Manila where live music pours out of every doorway for blocks and blocks.

#76 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 02:47 PM | Reply

Rudy should be a little worried right about now. Michael Cohen did try to warn him.

#77 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 02:54 PM | Reply

Guess Obama should have been impeached too, right[?]
#75 | POSTED BY WISGOD

Yes, why wasn't he?

#78 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-10-10 03:05 PM | Reply

"Guess Obama should have been impeached too, right children?"

you had you chance

and you FAILED miserably

#79 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-10 03:05 PM | Reply

Pete Sessions.
Oops.
Turning into a Republican mess.

#80 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-10 03:06 PM | Reply

@#64 ... Word is the two arrested at Dulles had one-way international tickets. ...

Giuliani Ukraine Allies Arrested at Airport With One-Way Tickets
www.bloomberg.com

...FBI agents arrested the two Wednesday evening at Dulles International Airport just outside of Washington as they were leaving the country with one-way tickets. ...

#81 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-10 03:06 PM | Reply

Pete Sessions role:
www.dallasnews.com

"Sessions has previously acknowledged that he met with the businessmen and that he wrote in May 2018 to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to ask for that ambassador's (to Ukraine) removal."

"Sessions, who is seeking to revive his political career after last year losing his seat, didn't respond to multiple requests for comment on Thursday."

#82 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-10 03:10 PM | Reply

Good question Rsty. Maybe because it was so common back then. I'm mean look at the Clinton Foundation. Donations down 68%. You sure are a hack

#83 | Posted by wisgod at 2019-10-10 03:10 PM | Reply

These two promised campaign money to help Pete Sessions if Sessions will help get rid of the Ambassador to Ukraine. This all is starting to tie together.

#84 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-10 03:17 PM | Reply

It sounds like there could be more charges against these guys:

Manu Raju @mkraju

US prosecutors were not intending to unseal the indictment against the Giuliani associates and two others today, per sources, but their hand was forced bc two of the defendants trying to leave the country, per ... @evanperez ... @ShimonPro

Tom Winter @Tom_Winter

NEW: U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman says that the investigation into Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman is "continuing."

#85 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 03:17 PM | Reply

Not anymore:

Pete Sessions expected to run for Flores's open seat in Texas

thehill.com

#86 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 03:19 PM | Reply

...hack.
#83 | POSTED BY WISGOD

HAHA!

The irony is rife considering I never voted for either Clinton.

Enjoy the crow, if it's not too crispy.

#87 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-10-10 03:23 PM | Reply

Meet the Florida Duo Helping Giuliani Investigate for Trump in Ukraine

Since early last year, the men have emerged from obscurity to become major donors to Republican campaigns in the United States. They have collectively contributed over half a million dollars to candidates and outside campaign groups, the lion's share in a single transaction that an independent watchdog has flagged as a potential violation of electoral funding law.

The men appear to enjoy a measure of access to influential figures. They've dined with Trump, had a "power breakfast" with his son Donald Jr., met with U.S. congressmen, and mixed with Republican elites.

www.occrp.org

#88 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 03:23 PM | Reply

"#31 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH "
Hey, man -- I was hoping you'd pop up one day. Good to see you.

#33 | Posted by goatman

It's awfully good to be seen, Goatie. WTF are you doing here?

*if that's even really you -- I heard you are a Russian Bot*

LO effin L

I get it. With this fake as ---- "impeachment inquiry" and all the Ukraine/China and *wait for it* Romanian corruption coming down and all the crooks hiding behind the sham media, it's like shooting fish in a barrel in here.

It's the beginning of the end of the beginning! So hit your targets while they're out looking for a viable talking point.

#89 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 03:26 PM | Reply

The irony is rife considering I never voted for either Clinton...

#87 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

I have assumed that you voted for Hillary, with a held nose of course.

You know what they say about assume...

#90 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-10 03:28 PM | Reply

"It's awfully good to be seen, Goatie. WTF are you doing here?"

Keeping proggies in line.

"*if that's even really you -- I heard you are a Russian Bot*"

One of my many disguises and/or aliases here.

#91 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 03:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Keeping proggies in line.

#91 | Posted by goatman

We haven't been doing something right. I'm learning my lesson from the NBA and Chairman Xi:

streamable.com

You see the look on Westbrook and Hardin's faces? It's what Corky must look like when someone points out his pantsuit is at his ankles again, while he waits for RCade to step in with the ban hammer.

#92 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 03:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Since you are mentioning her:

Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton

It's becoming a challenge to keep up with the high crimes and misdemeanors.
8:15 AM - 10 Oct 2019

#93 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 03:38 PM | Reply

Follow up:

Laura Rozen @lrozen

Correia still at large but expected to turn himself in...
Kukushkin appeared briefly in federal court in San Fran., govt argued flight risk

...refused to turn over Ukrainian passport

#94 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 03:43 PM | Reply

I really just showed up today to taunt Monte and any other Dodgers fan absorbing last night's reality.

www.youtube.com

#95 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 03:44 PM | Reply

You want the House to vote before they investigate, so you can say they didn't investigate before they impeached. Then, without any evidence, you want the House to rush to the Senate to go to trial with a weak case so you can call it a nothingberder, acquit and move on to the election. Only a stupid person would believe that strategy will work.
#56 | Posted by chuffy

Nah. I just want to investigate with due process -- both parties present, live witnesses, cross examined, real subpoenas, that sort of thing.

But -- you do you.

Best of luck.

LOL

#96 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 04:10 PM | Reply

Arrested for campaign violations with money that was frozen. Guess Obama should have been impeached too, right children?
He just paid a $300k fine. Maybe on account of his tan.

#75 | POSTED BY WISGOD

I missed the part where Obama obstructed Congress when this was investigated.

And the other problem is now Trump has a list of crimes that will continue to grow until he is removed.

That and about zillion other differences, of course. Trump is no Obama. That's for sure.

This draining the swamp thingy sure is dredging you up some corrupt creatures!

#97 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-10 04:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Another day.. another turd for the republicans to try to polish
Y'all must have tennis elbow by now

#98 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-10-10 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Arrested for campaign violations with money that was frozen. Guess Obama should have been impeached too, right children?
He just paid a $300k fine. Maybe on account of his tan.

#75 | POSTED BY WISGOD

Then you better stay a private citizen.

This about the President. He won't be tried in a court of Law.

Impeachment is a clearly defined constitutional process.

A Stable Genius would already know this.

#99 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-10 04:24 PM | Reply

Maybe Hillary really did lose the election to this ------ on purpose. Republicans have been permanently poisoned in the minds of entire generations of young Americans. It's not unfathomable that they never win the presidency again in my lifetime.

Take solace, Trumptards, your conspiracy about Hillary colluding so the deep state could take down Trump is true after all!

#100 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-10 04:27 PM | Reply

Oops. Post 99 was supposed to be responding to This:

Nah. I just want to investigate with due process -- both parties present, live witnesses, cross examined, real subpoenas, that sort of thing.

But -- you do you.

Best of luck.

LOL

#96 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

#101 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-10 04:29 PM | Reply

Hey Dboy --

The cows are leaving your barn, you high bastage.

When you figure out this post/response thing, lick me.

Fondly,

'Notch

#102 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 04:33 PM | Reply

100 -"It's not unfathomable that they never win the presidency again in my lifetime."

That's what I thought after Bush jr lied is into invading Iraq and tanking our econony...... sadly people forget fast

#103 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-10-10 05:08 PM | Reply

live music pours out of every doorway for blocks and blocks.

#76 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY AT 2019-10-10 02:47 PM

I had no idea you were a Big Man Around Nashville. Heck of a music town. I'm sure you and I know a few people in common.

I just saw the Mavericks last week. Great band live. Their keyboardist is quite the showman. And he's from Nashville... wait...

Naahh, couldn't be!

#104 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-10 05:14 PM | Reply

It's awfully good to be seen, Goatie. WTF are you doing here?

*if that's even really you -- I heard you are a Russian Bot*

LO effin L

I get it. With this fake as ---- "impeachment inquiry" and all the Ukraine/China and *wait for it* Romanian corruption coming down and all the crooks hiding behind the sham media, it's like shooting fish in a barrel in here.

It's the beginning of the end of the beginning! So hit your targets while they're out looking for a viable talking point.

#89 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Look at this moron makeout session.

Gather round morons and jerk each other off. Tell yourselves the impeachment is fake despite the fact that trump's own words request a foreign power to investigate his rivals. Tell yourselves its all going to be ok.

Got your "go bags" all ready you dumb preppers? Got your "strike plan" ready for when trump tells you to start attacking your fellow countrymen?

#105 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 05:43 PM | Reply

"Look at this moron makeout session.
#105 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

LOL

'Notch addresses me in one post and speaksoftly thinks it's a makeout session.

And she 'Notch a moron

You can't make this ---- up.

You're very dishonest and you lie a lot, but I have to admit you're worth keeping around just for the laughs you bring this place.

#106 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 05:47 PM | Reply

Gather round morons and jerk each other off.

#105 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

What a fitting way to address the DR herd these days!

RCade ought to trademark that and use it in place of Comment on This Entry.

#107 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 06:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The noose seems to be tightening.

#108 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-10-10 06:56 PM | Reply

What's going to happen is that all of the cornered rats, who are scampering around in a panic right now, will start to realize that some of the smaller ones can sneak out of the cage into the hands of an immunity deal, and we all know there is more than one rat in the Drumpf cage who is considering this. It's starting to look a lot like Putin is calling in his markers, and Donny is dragging his whole crew with him - Rudy, Barr, Pence, Pompeo, hell, even Rick Perry seems to be getting dragged. Abandoning the Kurds is a tell: politically, it makes no sense for him to have done that - piss off at least half of the Republicans in the Senate who were sitting on the impeachment fence? That had to have been a deal he cut with Erdogan on behalf of his Russian boss.

I've been rethinking the pee pee tape. I am now thinking those Russian hookers were actually minors, which makes it even more plausible. The funny thing is, Putin could just release it once his puppet has outlived his usefulness. That time is running short. Art of the Deal, LOL.

#109 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-10 07:22 PM | Reply

Giuliani had lunch withLev and Igor at the Trump Hotel in D.C. and 2 hours later the two were trying to get on a plane on one-way tickets out of the U.S. Hmm...

And now we know 4 National Security Officials raised alarms before and after Trump's Ukraine call.

That noose does look like it's tightening.

Trump's holding a rally tonight, so that ought to be entertaining.

So.
Much.
Winning.

#110 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-10 07:25 PM | Reply

Guyzzzz! What about 'bombshell'? Isn't this a bombshell?

He's done. He's done.

The science is settled.

This calls for a mainstream montage!

www.youtube.com

#111 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 07:29 PM | Reply

Isn't this a tipping point?

youtu.be

#112 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 07:31 PM | Reply

#111 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Why would you post a montage that proves how tolerant your party is of a clearly unfit and criminal president?

#113 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 07:42 PM | Reply

I'm sure this image will trigger you, but what doesn't?

www.bing.com

#114 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 07:49 PM | Reply

You said the wheels are falling off, right?
That must mean *the walls are closing in!*
LOL
#31 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

No, I said "the wheels might be coming off the bus"

But I wouldn't expect you to be that cognitive. Your dried up old, toothless pie hole probably looks like a chimpanzee sphincter as you type what the orderly at the nut house tells you to.

#115 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-10 07:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I don't recall addressing you specifically, LftHndTurds.

Sorry to trigger you.

If you said "the wheels might be coming off the bus" that is indeed entirely different than my summary of the hyperbole in yet another "the wheels are falling off" thread.

I fully deserve your foul invective. You are the better person.

My bad.

Hope you feel better soon.

*cheers*

Friends?

#116 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 08:11 PM | Reply

Abandoning the Kurds is a tell.

#109 | Posted by chuffy

Can you quickly name the town from which Trump removed some 50 US soldiers?

When did you first hear of this town?

What is the significance of this town, aside from our retreat from it signalling to you that Trump should be impeached?

Do you favor sending the ISIS captives to Guantanamo?

Compare and contrast our removal of 50 soldiers from this town to our treatment of the Yazidis in 2015.

Just curious how you see it.

Do tell.

#117 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 08:20 PM | Reply

Hope you feel better soon.

*cheers*

Friends?

#116 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH AT 2019-10-10 08:11 PM | FLAG:

Friends? Sure. Just keeping the record straight. Have a good evening Dix

#118 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-10 08:22 PM | Reply

I'm sure this image will trigger you, but what doesn't?

www.bing.com

#114 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Not surprising that the moronic troll cult thinks that upsetting decent people means they're winning.

#119 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 08:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Repeat after me:

"Suspects arrested on campaign finance charges after having lunch with Giuliani at Trump hotel."

#120 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 08:27 PM | Reply

Regarding my queries in #117, I was surprised to learn just now (had to look it up) the destination of the refugees that are fleeing the Syrian border town(s).

I wasn't surprised to find this statement from the European Union:

While acknowledging that Turkey has security concerns on its border with Syria, Juncker said: "If the Turkish plan involves the creation of a so-called safe zone, don't expect the European Union to pay for any of it."

www.theguardian.com

#121 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 08:31 PM | Reply

Tis time for some prison orange Rudy Thongs with numbers on the backside.

#122 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-10-10 08:33 PM | Reply

.. thinks that upsetting decent people means they're winning.

#119 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Presuming that you consider yourself to be counted as a decent person, I'm sorry to upset you further by informing you that I find your butthurt comment to be uniquely hilarious.

The image I posted is that of the 2016 Election Map, showing indeed that not only are we winning, but that we won.

I know that's where you think all your troubles lie. Again, I apologize for your sensitivities.

*triggering instesifies*

#123 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 08:36 PM | Reply

Rudy, Rudy, Rudy!:

CNN @CNN

Rudy Giuliani's financial dealings with two associates indicted on campaign finance-related charges are under scrutiny by investigators overseeing the case, law enforcement officials briefed on the matter said

#124 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 08:40 PM | Reply

Rudy had lunch with the two goons and sent them off with one-way flights.

#125 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-10 08:46 PM | Reply

What goes around, comes around:

bengarvin @bengarvin

Crowd chanting "Lock him up" outside Target Center as trump supporters stream in.
#trumpminneapolis

twitter.com

#126 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-10 08:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is Trump's Tom Hagen (Giuliani) wondering whether or not he may be the next one indicted.

#127 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 09:08 PM | Reply

DIX -

The trigger intensified:

Land Doesn't Vote, People Do

#128 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-10-10 09:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Giuliani's two goons were headed for Vienna.

Why Vienna?

Russian gangster billionaire and Putin friend, Dmitry Firtash, is there. He can't leave Vienna because he's under house arrest fighting extradition to the U.S.

Giuliani admits he's also been working with Paul Manafort, who's serving time in federal prison.

You can judge a man by the company he keeps. Giuliani's schemes are going to sink him, and will probably sink his boss, Don Trump, too.

#129 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 09:22 PM | Reply

The image I posted is that of the 2016 Election Map, showing indeed that not only are we winning, but that we won.

I know that's where you think all your troubles lie. Again, I apologize for your sensitivities.

*triggering instesifies*

#123 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Oh is it one of those maps that works on stupid people because they see a lot of red and not much blue because it doesn't show anything about population concentrations?

#130 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-10 09:53 PM | Reply

"Oh is it one of those maps that works on stupid people because they see a lot of red and not much blue because it doesn't show anything about population concentrations?

#130 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

It doesn't work on people too stupid to see that it is the map of a winner.

#131 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 10:00 PM | Reply

DIX -

The trigger intensified:

Land Doesn't Vote, People Do

#128 | Posted by rstybeach11

Trigger intensified because your own map shows you losing, too?

Guyzzzz!

You lost the 2016 election.

Your party has a ridiculous platform.

Your party leaders are doing nothing but trying to save their own asses.

Your candidates for 2020 are feeble.

You are the epitome of losers.

*blorp*

#132 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-10 10:45 PM | Reply

Can you quickly name the town from which Trump removed some 50 US soldiers? No, I am not familiar with Northern Syria. Can you quickly tell me the names of 5 Iranian cities? Is this one of those gotcha threads...?

When did you first hear of this town? Why, just the other day. Did you visit the city recently? Is it your favorite vacation spot?

What is the significance of this town, aside from our retreat from it signalling to you that Trump should be impeached? I don't follow. This action did nothing to signal that Drumpf should be impeached, there are probably 4 or 5 better reasons, including his confession to withholding military aid to Ukraine in return for investigating a political enemy - my point was more that Putin wants control of the region and Drumpf just gave it up for free. Can you offer a strategic and thoughtful reason why we withdrew that explains how this wasn't a gift to Turkey and Russia in exchange for nothing?


Do you favor sending the ISIS captives to Guantanamo? Do you like chocolate ice cream?

Compare and contrast our removal of 50 soldiers from this town to our treatment of the Yazidis in 2015.
Just curious how you see it. Do tell.
I can't do that, because I don't remember what we did to the Yazidis in 2015. Is this the same thing? Again, I don't know what your point is, but I'm sure you're going to enlighten me.

Tell me, how do the US Armed Forces that have been fighting alongside the Kurds in Northern Syria feel about this? I don't know anyone there, but it is my understanding that they are aligned with my perspective...that we are abandoning an ally. I can basically point Syria out on a map, but it seems to me that yanking our support, however minimal and fragile it was, was a d**k move. Strategically, it makes very little sense, and if I remember correctly, "cutting and running" was frowned upon among the chest thumping war ------ crowd.

I get the impression that you're one of those, "You called it a clip, not a magazine, and there's no such thing as an assault rifle" guys. Please amaze us all with your amazing insight on what is happening here.

#133 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-10 10:59 PM | Reply

You lost the 2016 election. asterisk

Your party has a ridiculous platform. coming from someone who thinks DJT is awesome, that doesn't really pack much of a punch.

Your party leaders are doing nothing but trying to save their own asses. Psychological projection is often used as a defense mechanism by people who are having a tough time dealing with their emotions. Good luck with that.

Your candidates for 2020 are feeble. coming from someone who thinks DJT is awesome, that doesn't really pack much of a punch.

You are the epitome of losers. 2016 midterms sure did prove that, as did the 3 million vote disparity in 2016. I do want to thank you for not spelling it, "loosers," it's refreshing to see comments from a wingnut that are written in English.

#134 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-10 11:14 PM | Reply

"#134 | POSTED BY CHUFFY "

Are you guys ever going to ever get over the butt hurt of 2016? Christ almighty...

#135 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 11:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I am not the one who brought up 2016. If you don't like my responses, that's a you problem, snowflake.

#136 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-10 11:20 PM | Reply

"I am not the one who brought up 2016. If you don't like my responses, that's a you problem, snowflake.

#136 | POSTED BY CHUFFY "

No, but you responded with a bunch of snowflake butt hurt responses.

#137 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 11:22 PM | Reply

You'll notice that the liberals on this site rarely, if ever bring up Hillary Clinton...that's a wingnut obsession, driven by your orange hero who printed out electoral maps when he won to ensure everyone how awesome his big win was. LOL.

Nutters.

#138 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-10 11:22 PM | Reply

".that's a wingnut obsession, "

Just as 2016 is a left wing nut obsession. Get over it, or it'll happen again

#139 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 11:24 PM | Reply

No, but you responded with a bunch of snowflake butt hurt responses.

#137 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Like I said, that's a you problem, snowflake. Go whine about someone else, I'm sure you can accuse somebody of lying, it's what you do. If you want to address why you think my responses are butt-hurt, bring it. Otherwise, pound sand, you've just typed 2 replies that have no substance.

Troll

#140 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-10 11:25 PM | Reply

"Like I said, that's a you problem...

#140 | POSTED BY CHUFFY "

I know you said that. And it's not my problem. I'm not the one snowflaking out over an election that's almost three years in the past. I live in the now. So should your party unless you want to lose again. Democrats have a long history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and it's looking like that want to do it again.

And no, it's not my problem the democrats can't figure this out.

#141 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 11:29 PM | Reply

"Troll

#140 | POSTED BY CHUFFY "

OK, pinchaloaf. LOL

#142 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 11:30 PM | Reply

Just as 2016 is a left wing nut obsession. Get over it, or it'll happen again
#139 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

2016 is still relevant, because our elections were compromised. It will happen again, because the wingnuts have refused to do anything to stop it from happening again, and your raccoon-eyed, visor headed narcissist has openly asked for foreign help again. I'm not going to ignore the facts, because I'm an American and a patriot. What's your excuse?

#143 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-10 11:31 PM | Reply

"2016 is still relevant, because our elections were compromised. It will happen again...
#143 | POSTED BY CHUFFY "

It'll happen again, only if your stupid party allows it. Hell, every time they lose an election they claim republicans cheated. That excuse worked once, maybe twice at the most, but when it keeps happening, one can only assume the dems are too stupid to stop it. And who wants that kind of stupidity as leaders?

It's like someone's house always getting broken into and them keep crying about it, but don't do anything to stop it.

So yeah, whatever. Keep letting those wascally Wepublicans cheatt you. If y'all are too stupid to stop it after all these decades, you don't deserve to win.

#144 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 11:36 PM | Reply

Here's a PIC of: Pence, Indicted Russians 1 & 2 (both of whom Trump said he doesn't know), Trump, Giuliani at the WH

#145 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 11:38 PM | Reply

The two indicted Russians working for Giuliani were flying one way to Vienna. Why Vienna?

Vienna is where Russian gangster & Putin friend, Dmitry Firtash, is under house arrest.

#146 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 11:42 PM | Reply

CBOB

If you're ever coming to Nashville, let me know. I can give you some recommendations on good places to stay, visit, good eats, and, of course music venues depending on your preferences. And a free meal for you and your significant other too if you'd like ...

#147 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-10 11:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The two indicted Russians working for Giuliani were flying one way to Vienna. Why Vienna?"

They like the sausages

#148 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 11:55 PM | Reply

We need to recruit LA mayor Eric Garcetti to run.

#149 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2019-10-10 11:59 PM | Reply

Chuffy --

I appreciate you admitting in your #133 that you are clueless about what we're doing in Syria. This is the part of the thread where you get ripped for running your mouth for foolishly trying to hold court in #109 with your pants at your ankles.

First things first: Turkey, our NATO ally, has been aligned with the US against Russia and Assad all along. Ousting Assad is the key to running Qatar/Saudi gas and oil to Europe through Turkey. Russia loves controlling the European market with its pipelines through *Ukraine*. Leaving the northeast Syria/Turkey border in Turkey's hands is no favor to Russia.

Secondly: We did not abandon the Kurds. Who we stepped back from is the PKK, which is regarded by everyone in the region as a non-state affiliated terror group. The PKK was trying to use US forces on the Syrian side of the border to occupy towns as a safe haven for their attacks into Turkey. We've been raging hypocrites in Syria, so we probably wouldn't mind if the PKK would take out Assad; taking out our NATO ally Turkey instead es mucho, no?

Thirdly: The refugee flow from this Turkish incursion is into Turkey. Apparently, the refugees are siding with the aggressor. There are already some 3,000,000 Syrian refugees in Turkey. We've been asking Turkey to take more refugees. Now they are.

Fourthly: Obama and Hillary lost our covert war for Syria on September 11, 2012 when our rebel supply line to the Battle of Aleppo was smashed in Benghazi, Libya. Arming ISIS to salvage the battle for pipeline routes to Europe didn't work out well for us, but Americans would never support using our own troops. The plan Obama, Hillary, and Corky, er, Kerry, McCain et. al committed us to was horrible, and horribly executed.

With ISIS smashed, Trump started cutting our troop numbers for real nearly a year ago. Remember when you fell in love with Mattis over Christmas? This most recent move is pulling a mere 50 or so US troops back some 20 miles, allowing our NATO ally to handle their security in the face of PKK attacks.

Who knew? Certainly not you, when who sharted this drivel:

It's starting to look a lot like Putin is calling in his markers, and Donny is dragging his whole crew with him - Rudy, Barr, Pence, Pompeo, hell, even Rick Perry seems to be getting dragged. Abandoning the Kurds is a tell: politically, it makes no sense for him to have done that - piss off at least half of the Republicans in the Senate who were sitting on the impeachment fence? That had to have been a deal he cut with Erdogan on behalf of his Russian boss.

#109 | Posted by chuffy

Russia wanted Turkey to regain control of it's Syrian border? Your balls are going to be permanently tatooed at the rate you're going. Then again, the level of informed discourse on the DR has pretty well reached nil. You'll probably get some strokes within a few posts.

#150 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 03:36 AM | Reply

Do you favor sending the ISIS captives to Guantanamo? Do you like chocolate ice cream?

#133 | Posted by chuffy

Yes, I do.

#151 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 03:43 AM | Reply

2 years. The Republican Party had complete control of the government for 2 years - Orange Furious, McTurtle, Eddie Munster and the Roberts court. We had the unanimous opinions of our Intelligence Community (a largely conservative bunch of people) telling us that we were attacked by Russia during the election...and Cheetolini was inviting Russians to the White House and shutting the door to the American press...and the the Republican FBI Director, who gifted the presidency to DJT was fired by tweet because he wouldn't stop investigating the campaign to rule out any wrongdoing. The Republican AG had to recuse himself from the case, so his Republican Deputy AG appointed a Republican special counsel to further investigate. All while Republicans controlled the entire government.

But it's the Democratic Party to blame for it all. Got it. 2018 didn't happen. Got it.

#152 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 03:46 AM | Reply

Everybody could see you were full of ---- from the beginning. The FBI passed and let the DNC contractor Crowdstrike examine the DNC server and then the FBI accepted a draft report from the same DNC contractor Crowdstrike.

Not coincidentally, on his perfect phone call Trump asked Ukraine to look into the Crowdstrike report. Trump mentioned that he heard the server or a copy of the server had been moved to Ukrainian territory.

We have an intelligence sharing duty with Ukraine, memorialized in a 1998 treaty signed by President Clinton.

Examining the DNC server is the key to the Russian Collusion -------- you have been peddling. You don't want the server to be examined at all, so you throw tantrum after tantrum after tantrum trying to distract from Giuliani exposing massive Democrat corruption and collusion with foreign governments to interfere with the 2016 election.

#153 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 04:07 AM | Reply

Sounds like now the Democrats aren't going to produce an actual "witness" to testify about the phone call to their own sham committee, after all.

What will you come up with next? Trump paying Russian hookers to pee pee on a mattress used by Obama and throw it out a Moscow hotel window?

#154 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 04:10 AM | Reply

By the way, a fascinating thing about the Ukraine gas industry beside the fact that Biden, Pelosi and Kerry's kids are all Executive Board level experts:

Ukraine imports 80% of its natural gas. It ranks only 26th in the world in gas production. Natural gas is Ukraine's largest import.

In a quirky twist, natural gas is also Ukraine's largest export, but its not actually Ukrainian produced gas. This quirky economic statistic is made factual by virtue of Ukraine collecting massive transit fees for the Russian pipelines that pass through Ukrainian territory to serve Europe.

So, being a Ukrainian gas executive really doesn't involve much gas industry work at all. The more Russia charges Europe for its gas, the more Ukrainian gas companies collect in transit fees.

Having the sons of the American vice President, Secretary of State, and Speaker of the House on the board of a Ukranian gas company is purely for access to the parents' political powers.

You think any of those kids' parents ran these appointments through an ethics review board? I'd love to read that report.

#155 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 04:23 AM | Reply

Hold on there tiger, I knew you were eager to jump in with your awesome takedown, but slow down a little. You are jumping all over the place.

I'm pretty tired, so I'll have to keep this brief.

I asked you 6 questions in #133, and answered all of yours. You only answered the bit about chocolate ice cream, so let's start there.

Now I'm curious, because you seem to know everything about what's going on in Syria. Can you answer all of the questions you asked first? Should be easy, just copy/paste. It is how you set up your argument, isn't it, so you could tattoo my balls or whatever...?

The US is aligned with the SDF, not the PKK. Turkey considers the SDF to be a terrorist organization, as does Russia. The US considers the PKK to be a terrorist organization, as does most of NATO, but not Russia. By withdrawing the small coalition of troops from the region, the US essentially green-lighted Turkey's invasion. From what I've read, this was seen as a betrayal by the SDF, members of the US Armed Forces and even people in Congress who I generally dislike.

I had to look up where the refugees are going, it appears that the relief agencies have retreated across the border back into Turkey and that Kurdish civilians are scattering into the mountains, although I assume some will try to stay with the relief agencies that have moved into Turkey. The existing 3.6 million Syrian refugees are not all Kurdish, but I'm not sensing that details matter much to you.

Russian forces got massacred in 2018 by coalition forces, including SDF militia and US military...having the US out of Northern Syria is a boon to Putin. Who knows what kind of deal he and Erdogan have struck? I don't, but I would not be surprised to hear about a natural gas pipeline going up in the next year or two.

You still haven't explained the strategy here, or why boots-on-the-ground military personnel, foreign policy experts and politicians from both sides of the aisle have condemned the move, and use the word, "Abandoned," to describe what appears to be a unilateral decision here by the CiC.

ISIS was largely smashed by the SDF, and now we're leaving them to be bombed by Turkey. Smarter people than me suggest that this could lead to a resurgence, as thousands of prisoners may be freed or escape.

Our NATO allies have called upon Turkey to halt their attack. DJT has threatened sanctions, despite green-lighting the attack. Stable genius!

If you don't mind, now that you've made your assumptions about what I know or don't know about Syria, please explain what this means:

As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I've done before!)

Specifically, I'd like to know what DJT considers to be "off limits" and when he obliterated the economy of Turkey in the past.

My comments about what "it looks like" to me are speculative. You can take those with a grain of salt. I know you don't understand nuance, though, so I don't really care. Your unhinged reply was pretty much what I expected anyway.

#156 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 05:36 AM | Reply

As to your CrowdStrike comments, those will have to wait. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

#157 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 05:36 AM | Reply

Remember when you fell in love with Mattis over Christmas? You must have me confused with the imaginary "radical left Mattis lovers" group that someone on Fox made up so their straw man could stand on its own. The only positive thing I'd say about Mattis is that he kept the Orange Idiot in check for as long as he could. IIRC, Mattis resigned because he opposed withdrawing troops from Syria, and here we are. Funny how that works.

#158 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 05:44 AM | Reply

I never assume people get my references, so here is why I used the word, "Troll," earlier:

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.

and:

The term trolling originally comes from fishing, rather than the fantasy creature. Trolling in a fishing context means casting a baited line out in the water and dragging it through the water behind you as you move. The idea in the Internet context is that you set out some bait in much the same way and watch as your victim grabs it and writhes for your amusement, solely For the Evulz. Malcontents on the internet protected by anonymity have been doing this for years, hence the widespread usage of the term. Many trolls enjoy insults (and the like) thrown at them as a result of their trolling; those who threw such insults are said to have "fed the troll" (or "taken the bait").

Russia has set up entire troll farms to do this across social media and comments sections. I wouldn't be surprised if I've just engaged a couple tonight.

#159 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 06:02 AM | Reply

President of Russia Vladimir Putin, President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan and President of Iran Hassan Rouhani took part in a trilateral summit on the settlement in Syria.

The meeting started with a photo op: Putin, Erdogan, and Iran's Rouhani; September 16th

Trump got his marching orders from Putin. And here we are ...

#160 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-11 09:52 AM | Reply

When you figure out this post/response thing, lick me.

Fondly,

'Notch

#102

When you figure out this American Government don't call me. See a therapist. You will need one after this is all over. Humpy is going down. Humpy gonna get everything that is coming to him. Finally.

Just an FYI...

I don't lick morons Or their little turds.

#161 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-11 12:10 PM | Reply

You think any of those kids' parents ran these appointments through an ethics review board? I'd love to read that report.

#155 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

Who cares what you think troll?

Humpy's going down. And not in the good way.

None of your "facts" will have anything to do with it.

Colluding with foreign powers to rig a Presidential election is pretty dumb.

Especially after just being investigated for colluding with foreign powers to rig the election.

#162 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-11 12:18 PM | Reply

Trump gave Turkey a yellow light, not a green light. He warned Turkey that he would ruin their economy, and lo you are reporting he is threatening sanctions. No doubt he means it. You should follow his Twitter.

#163 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 12:33 PM | Reply

" He warned Turkey that he would ruin their economy, and lo you are reporting he is threatening sanctions. No doubt he means it."

Sanction a location of one of his licensed buildings?

Guess again.

#164 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-10-11 12:41 PM | Reply

#163

Having a hard time answering your own questions?

You forgot to mention white helmets.

Take your moronic conspiracy theories back to 4chan where they belong.

Troll

#165 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 01:03 PM | Reply

Trump gave Turkey a yellow light, not a green light. He warned Turkey that he would ruin their economy, and lo you are reporting he is threatening sanctions. No doubt he means it. You should follow his Twitter.

#163 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

haha yeah. Just like he meant it like when he said he never paid stormy daniels. Or like he meant it when he said he'd drain the swamp, before filling his white house with bankers and lobbyists. Or like he meant it when he said mexico would pay for the wall. Or like he meant it when he said he wouldnt play any golf as president.

Turkey knows his word is worthless which is why they invaded IMMEDIATELY. Beyond worthless - whatever trump says, the opposite is likely true. The fact that you think he means what he said only reveals your own stupidity and gullibility at this point.

#166 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-11 01:22 PM | Reply

As to the questions I asked about this -------- you so love along the Syria/Turkey border:

I have no idea the name of the town or towns, either. Still don't, after trying to look it up. We have no interest there, although the PKK or the SDF or someone -- you don't know who, besides Turkey -- does have an interest.

I only just heard about our presence and the conflict in this unknown town/region the other day. Same as you. It took another day or two to learn that we only had 50 troops holding the area. Since we pulled out 4,000 troops from Syria almost a year ago I was surprised we had any. I wasn't expecting that we were trying to hold ground for anyone, especially if they were using the ground to make attacks on Turkey. Since the refugee flow is heading into Turkey, the agressor, and not away from it, it seems that Turkey has a substantial interest in protecting many people in the area.

Perpetual mass incarceration of our battlefield enemies in Guantanamo sounds more humane than killing them. But we all know there are lots of problems with this approach. You hyperventilating types would ---- your pants all over again. It seems that no one in the area wants to deal with the prisoners other than Turkey.

As for the Yazidis, they were a minority group that was driven from their homes by ISIS while Obama and Kerry shrugged. Men women and children were slaughtered or sold into slavery while Obama and Kerry shrugged.

As for abandoning allies, Bill Clinton guaranteed Ukraine that we would protect them if they gave up their nukes, but Obama shrugged and handed the Crimean Peninsula to Putin when Putin asked for it.

Lybia gave up their nuke dreams when their secret program was discovered. In return, Obama and Hillary bombed the ---- out of him and let who(?) kill Qaddafi by the side of the road.

Conversely, we let Iran continue with their secret nuclear program and Obama gave them billions to fund it.

So yeah, we look like fickle allies. Too bad Obama didn't win his wars.

Trump did exactly what he said he would do. He bombed the ---- out of ISIS, along with Turkey, and is leaving. Not fickle -- just cleaning up after Obama, Clinton and Kerry's messy, messy loss.

Here on the DR, you admit and display that you don't know ---- about the details of this particular town, its people, and the powers that be. You posture as if you give a rats ass about all that is righteous, but you just make ---- up. You are programmed to say Putin controls Trump, and you join your hive mates endlessly, exposing yourself to be useful idiots.

My point in asking the questions is that you should slow your self righteous roll. Details and facts matter.

You want civil discourse? Start with bringing yourself under control.

#167 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 01:33 PM | Reply

Turkey knows his word is worthless which is why they invaded IMMEDIATELY.

#166 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Trump told you they were going to invade immediately. True to his word, they did.

As someone posted above, NATO is pressuring Turkey and many sanctions are being threatened. Maybe we'll sanction them, maybe not.

Trump has used sanctions very effectively so far, and has been judicious in the use of our soldiers.

Funny that the left so loves endless wars.

We'll see, huh?

#168 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 01:38 PM | Reply

As to your CrowdStrike comments, those will have to wait. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
#157 | Posted by chuffy

Dude, I am dead-on over the target with my comments in #153 about Trump and Giuliani asking Ukraine to investigate Crowdstrike and their incomplete, innacurate report on the hacking of the DNC server.

The information is clearly laid out in 3 primary sources:

1) The Mueller Report

2) The Transcript of Trump's Perfect Conversation with the Ukrainian President

3) Rudy Giuliani's own comments

You know, of course, that Crowdstrike is owned by a Ukrainian oligarch.

Did your eyes not pop out of your head when Trump told the Ukranian President that he had heard the DNC server is on Ukranian soil?

Let me know when you are better informed and capable of civil discussion on the matter.

#169 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 02:00 PM | Reply

Trump did exactly what he said he would do. He bombed the ---- out of ISIS, along with Turkey, and is leaving. Not fickle -- just cleaning up after Obama, Clinton and Kerry's messy, messy loss.

#167 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Oh look at the list of people responsible for the mess in the mideast. What do you know! They're all DEMOCRATS!

Never heard of guys named bush cheney rumsfeld or bolton have you?

Trump doesn't care about ISIS or he wouldnt be creating a situation which will set ISIS free.

How do you feel about your cult leader sending more troops to help his puppetmasters in saudi arabia today?

#170 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-11 02:04 PM | Reply

Bush made a mess in Iraq, too. Hard to win a war with Democrats on your side. Should have known.

Obama ------ up Libya and Syria. Egypt and Tunisia, too. At least Egypt got itself straightened out.

So it goes.

#171 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 02:22 PM | Reply

You are the epitome of losers.
*blorp*
#132 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

Your assumptions make you look very, very petty considering you're the "winner."

Pffft hahahaha

#172 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-10-11 02:27 PM | Reply

Bush made a mess in Iraq, too. Hard to win a war with Democrats on your side. Should have known.

#171 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Yeah that's why iraq was a mess. Because democrats messed up bush's awesome republican plan. Just like you're great at wiping your ass, but democrats keep putting skidmarks in your underwear.

Pathetic.

#173 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-11 02:40 PM | Reply

"Hard to win a war with Democrats on your side."

Just phoning it in now.

#174 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-11 02:43 PM | Reply

You know, of course, that Crowdstrike is owned by a Ukrainian oligarch.

Did your eyes not pop out of your head when Trump told the Ukranian President that he had heard the DNC server is on Ukranian soil?

Let me know when you are better informed and capable of civil discussion on the matter.

#169 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 02:00 PM | Reply

This is all false. It's a bit ironic for you to imply someone else is misinformed on the DNC hack while you spout this nonsense.

The was no "DNC Server", the DNC information was mostly hosted in the cloud, spread across over 100 servers. The rest was in laptops and desktops in their offices.

Crowdstrike is a US company owned by a Russian-American, not a Ukrainian anything. They are also one of the most respected companies in cybersecurity.

I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but you might want to find a different source if you want accurate information.

#175 | Posted by StatsPlease at 2019-10-11 04:02 PM | Reply

I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but you might want to find a different source if you want accurate information.

#175 | Posted by StatsPlease

The only places trump's cult listens to - fox news, breitbart, and infowars. The only places dumb enough to sell russian propaganda as "news"

#176 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-11 04:06 PM | Reply

"If we investigated every person in DC how many do you think we could "arrest"?"
So much for Drain The Swamp...

#69 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-10-10 02:11 PM |

Let's find out. The republicans investigated Obama and Clinton and everyone who set foot within 1000 feet of them for 8 years. How many crimes did they find? Oh, yeah, none. The best they could come up with was some loose conection to an anarchist 20 years ago. The company you keep reveals your character. Trump has surrounded himself with crooks and criminals

#177 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-10-11 04:14 PM | Reply

#175. Thank you for correcting that garbage.

#178 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-11 04:15 PM | Reply

#177:

Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi

Do you know what that is?
That's one "Benghazi" for each Benghazi "investigation" the GOP instigated.

#179 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-11 04:17 PM | Reply

Here on the DR, you admit and display that you don't know ---- about the details of this particular town, its people, and the powers that be. You posture as if you give a rats ass about all that is righteous, but you just make ---- up. You are programmed to say Putin controls Trump, and you join your hive mates endlessly, exposing yourself to be useful idiots.

In a post where you admit that you don't know the answer to questions you are asking me, then use that as your basis for assuming I don't know anything at all about the issue, that's a pretty rich statement.

Hope you get that phone call in to Alex Jones some day.

#180 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 05:58 PM | Reply

DixvilleNotch,

You didn't answer my Iran question. Can't do it, don't bother googling it at this point, we all understand.

I answered your questions honestly - I don't know the name of the town, but I do know where it is now, because I, too, looked it up. You made me laugh, though, asking questions that you don't even know the answers to. You can join GOATMAN and RAY on the troll farm.

Your whole argument, in another context:

Do you know the serial number of the AR-15 you fired last week? HA! You know nothing about rifles!

hahaha nice job buddy! Have a cookie.

#181 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 06:09 PM | Reply

Oh, and about CrowdStrike...I'm not going to bother wasting my time, you clearly don't have the capacity to even understand why your conspiracy theory is laughable. And I am laughing at your ideas. I'm surprised you can even use a browser, honestly. Did you pick up your computer forensics certification on YouTube last week?

Go join your fellow wingnuts barking into the void.

#182 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 06:15 PM | Reply

"You can join GOATMAN and RAY on the troll farm.

POSTED BY CHUFFY"

Why bother to troll you when I already live rent free in your head? Or as I like to call it, "passive trolling". You have to at least a level 17 troll to be able to do that.

#183 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-11 06:20 PM | Reply

Do you know what that is?
That's one "Benghazi" for each Benghazi "investigation" the GOP instigated.

#179 | POSTED BY YAV

I think you're under by about 20, lol.

Bonus points to everyone for getting the troll to bring up Obama, Hillary AND Benghazi in a thread about Rudy Giuliani's associates!

#184 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 06:31 PM | Reply

Hey Chuffy! What was your ------- Iran question?

#185 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 06:38 PM | Reply

They are also one of the most respected companies in cybersecurity.

#175 | Posted by StatsPlease

Crodstrike worked as a DNC contractor.

They are not the FBI.

The FBI relied on an incomplete report from a DNC contractor to accuse Trump of Russian collusion.

The Mueller Report tells me so.

#186 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-11 06:41 PM | Reply

"The FBI ... accuse Trump of Russian collusion."

When did that happen?

#187 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-11 06:49 PM | Reply

Crodstrike worked as a DNC contractor.

They are not the FBI.

The FBI relied on an incomplete report from a DNC contractor to accuse Trump of Russian collusion.

The Mueller Report tells me so.

#186 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Your cult sure is obsessed with finding out HOW we learned trump was getting help from putin, and not at all concerned with asking why putin wanted to elect trump and everything trump has done to repay him.

"Before we talk about this bank robbery, we need to get to the bottom of who called the cops!"

#188 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-11 07:02 PM | Reply

The FBI relied on an incomplete report from a DNC contractor to accuse Trump of Russian collusion.
The Mueller Report tells me so.

Given your track record already, I'm pretty sure you haven't read the Mueller Report, and if you did (highly doubtful) you would understand why your comment is as stupid as your CrowdStrike comments. Neither is worthy of any further discussion.

I asked you if you can name 5 Iranian cities off the top of your head, but ctrl + f "Iran" is what people who understand computers normally do when they're looking for text in a browser (magnifying glass on a smart phone). Please go on with your diatribe about CrowdStrike, you don't even know how to search a post, LOL. Forensics!

#189 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-10-11 07:14 PM | Reply

Humpty Trumpty sat on his nonexistant wall.
Humpty Trumpty is having a great fall.
All the kings horses and all the kings men cant put Trumpty together again because they all are in prison or fired

#190 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-10-11 08:32 PM | Reply

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