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Donald Trump Jr. plans to speak at the University of Florida Thursday, and the fact that he will be paid with school funds has sparked protests among students.

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Wanna bet that this pair, Trump's oldest son, who considers himself a political genius, and his ex-Faux News girlfriend, who works for the Trump 2020 campaign, will refrain from turning this paid talk into a political rally...

What I'm wondering is what is the University of Florida willing to do if this does turn into a rally for Trump's 2020 presidential campaign? Does the university have any legal avenues to address this? Another question, could this be deemed an illegal campaign contribution if mandatory student fees, at a taxpayer-supported state university, are used to pay for a rally by members of a political campaign (while one could argue that Trump Jr is not part of the campaign, that argument won't hold water for his girlfriend Kimberly Guilfoyle)?

Anyway, this is something that will need to be watched closely.

OCU

#1 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-10 04:02 PM | Reply

So?

If you guy's weren't so afraid of whataboutism, (actually, y'all aren't afraid, you just like to pretend Trump is the only one doing something you consider unethical) I could provide other examples of children profiting off of their parent's name.

But I won't. Y'all can't handle the truth,

#2 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 04:19 PM | Reply

I could provide other examples of children profiting off of their parent's name.

#2 | Posted by goatman

That was not on my mind at all when I posted this. Rather, I was thinking what was going to happen if Trump Jr and his girlfriend, a paid staffer working for his father's presidential campaign, violates Florida state law and turns this event into a political rally? Not to mention that this could also violate federal campaign finance laws. That's the potential issue raised by this article, not a screed on how the offspring of politicians are cashing in on their parent's notoriety, which BTW, if NOT limited to the world of politics. It happens in the business world as well.

OCU

#3 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-10 05:02 PM | Reply

"#3 | POSTED BY OCUSER "

Fair enough. Post 2 retracted.

#4 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-10 05:05 PM | Reply

The son of a sitting president earning $50,000 for giving a political speech?

The right wing must consider this abhorrent. Pitchforks! Torches!

#5 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-11 10:48 AM | Reply

I could provide other examples of children profiting off of their parent's name.

#2 | Posted by goatman

Well thanks for the deflection comrade.

#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-10-11 11:00 AM | Reply

If you guy's weren't so afraid of whataboutism, ... I could provide other examples of children profiting off of their parent's name.

#2 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

If someone were actually arguing that it was wrong to profit off their parent's name (which no one was, but it seems even with your excellent "reading comprehension" you believed it was the case) then YOU ARE CORRECT that your hypothetical response would have been "whataboutism".

GOOD JOB GOAT! You are learning.

I am sooo proud.

#7 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-11 11:11 AM | Reply

not a screed on how the offspring of politicians are cashing in on their parent's notoriety, which BTW, if NOT limited to the world of politics. It happens in the business world as well.

And the same criticisms or questions apply then as they do now-what has Trump Jr. done to be worth $50K for a single speech?

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-11 11:32 AM | Reply

--I could provide other examples of children profiting off of their parent's name.

Sure. Chelsea Clinton got $600,000 from NBC for doing a few powder puff interviews with celebrities and the Geico Gecko.

#9 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-11 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And the same criticisms or questions apply then as they do now-what has Trump Jr. done to be worth $50K for a single speech?

#8 | Posted by jpw

Again you completely missed my explanation of why I posted the item that I did...

"...I was thinking what was going to happen if Trump Jr and his girlfriend, a paid staffer working for his father's presidential campaign, violates Florida state law and turns this event into a political rally? Not to mention that this could also violate federal campaign finance laws. That's the potential issue raised by this article,..."

...which I explained to goatman and which he appeared to accept.

OCU

#10 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-11 11:41 AM | Reply

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It appears that my concerns were justified. From the item below, reporting on what was NOT supposed to be a political rally:

The appearance was not meant to be a campaign event according to the speaking agreement. But the duo spoke about President Trump's accomplishments and criticized former Vice President Joe Biden, who is currently running to be Trump's Democratic challenger in 2020.

Trump Jr. raised allegations against Biden of wrongdoing in Ukraine, according to The Washington Post. A phone call in which President Trump pressed the Ukrainian president to investigate those allegations is at the center of an ongoing impeachment inquiry into the president.

Of course, we'll have to wait and see if there are any consequences for Trump Jr and his girlfriend breaking their agreement with the University of Florida. It's possible that both state and federal laws were broken as well.

thehill.com

OCU

#11 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-11 11:52 AM | Reply

I've never begrudged a former elected official or child of an elected official making as much money as they could off of interviews, appearances, or book deals. I say more power to them. IMO the crime here isn't that the person is cashing in on their or their parents notoriety, but that people are willing to pay so much for things like this. More a statement about us than it is about any particular person in question leveraging their past experience or familial relationships to make some money.

#12 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-10-11 12:06 PM | Reply

IMO the crime here isn't that the person is cashing in on their or their parents notoriety, but that people are willing to pay so much for things like this.

Big picture yes, but to me the issue here is that the school is using compulsory student fees to pay this dimwit the $50k.

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-11 12:25 PM | Reply

"Big picture yes, but to me the issue here is that the school is using compulsory student fees to pay this dimwit the $50k."

I don't think you're disagreeing me.

#14 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-10-11 12:27 PM | Reply

I agree that, big picture, the problem is the value our society/economy places on such a meaningless event.

The distinction i make is that in this case, the beef is really with the fact that many students who have no interest in supporting this sort of nonsense were forced to pay for it anyway.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-11 12:36 PM | Reply

"The distinction i make is that in this case, the beef is really with the fact that many students who have no interest in supporting this sort of nonsense were forced to pay for it anyway."

Yeah, but many of those same students would be hemming and hawing if one of their fanboy idols was denied the same type funding. Don't you think?

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-11 01:04 PM | Reply

"I could provide other examples of children profiting off of their parent's name."

Ivanka and Eric, for example.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-11 03:14 PM | Reply

"I could provide other examples of children profiting off of their parent's name."

Ivanka and Eric, for example.

#17 | Posted by snoofy

The Trump kids and their father reported over $100,000,000 in income the past two years from just the Trump D.C. hotel, which is now the favorite of lobbyists and foreign governments seeking favor with Trump. They're even holding events there that used to be held more cheaply at the White House. They should start a singing group called "The Grifters."

#18 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-11 08:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#18 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY "

Your post could be describing the Kennedys.

But being hyperpartisan, they slipped your mind

#19 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-11 08:43 PM | Reply

Again you completely missed my explanation of why I posted the item that I did.

I quoted the last line of it so...clearly I didn't miss it.

I was pointing out that even the argument he deflected with was garbage.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-11 11:00 PM | Reply

The son of a sitting president earning $50,000 for giving a political speech?

Why? BillClinton pulled in $500,000 from RUSSIA .... RUSSIA FFS..... while Hillary was SecState

Where was your outrage?

This is nothing but a "whataboutism" ... because you forget the original sin, until now.

#21 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-11 11:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why? BillClinton pulled in $500,000 from RUSSIA .... RUSSIA FFS..... while Hillary was SecState

Where was your outrage?

Bill Clinton is the son of a POTUS?

Nope. You're just an idiot who doesn't know when to keep their mouth shut.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-11 11:28 PM | Reply

And you think that Trump will not avail himself of the speaker circuit once he leaves office, although how he leaves might have a big impact on his potential speaking fees. After all, if the last image of Trump in the Oval Office is him being walked out in handcuffs, that could have a limiting effect on his potential future earnings as a motivational speaker or someone talking about what it takes to earn the trust and gratitude of your friends and co-workers.

OCU

#23 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-12 01:21 AM | Reply

I'm curious what sort of educational gain is expected from a speech from someone of the lucky sperm club? Any offspring of a sitting president is only riding the cache of their parents coattails - which the younger Trumps have been doing all their lives (at least Ivanka appears like she tries to spin entrepreneurial endeavors and could possibly talk about female empowerment through business).

There isn't any clear reason why UF would want to curry favor with the president either " maybe it's an event held to give some of their alum boosters a political -----?

#24 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-10-12 01:46 AM | Reply

Speaking of the pandering of the lucky sperm club. 1.bp.blogspot.com

#25 | Posted by et_al at 2019-10-12 02:43 AM | Reply

And we all remember how popular 'Billy Beer' was, NOT.

Besides, President Carter put all of his assets, including his farm and warehouse business, which he had inherited from his father, into a blind trust when he was elected president. His brother Billy was ostensibly left in charge of the family businesses, which he managed to run into the ground and was nearly forced into bankruptcy, yet the president never interfered and was forced to literally start over when he was finally able to regain control of his investments after leaving office.

OCU

#26 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-12 11:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I tried to save a six of Billy Beer but aluminum and beer doesn't hold up over decades.
Billy pissed on the tarmac at the Libyan airport. American hero.

#27 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-10-12 12:11 PM | Reply

Chelsea Clinton got $600,000 from NBC for doing a few powder puff interviews with celebrities and the Geico Gecko.

#9 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

So DJT is a wannabe Chelsea.

Thanks for reminding us she is worth so much more than a DJT Jr could ever be.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-10-12 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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