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Tuesday, October 15, 2019

A soldier shot in the head a decade ago while searching for Bowe Bergdahl in Afghanistan died on Saturday. Master Sgt. Mark Allen, 46, of Loganville, Georgia, was severely wounded in 2009 when he and other soldiers looked for Bergdahl, a fellow soldier who deserted his post and was captured by the Taliban.

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Didn't Bowe Bergdahl turn into a taliban?

#1 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-10-15 11:06 AM | Reply

Don't mention that PoS Bergdahl

#2 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-15 11:29 AM | Reply

Why not?

Many liberals regard him as a hero.

#3 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-10-15 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is Bergdahl the guy that faked bone spurs to desert the draft?

#4 | Posted by bored at 2019-10-16 02:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Don't mention that PoS Bergdahl

#2 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Yeah... Republican snowflakes are very triggered by him. Mainly because they associate him with Obama and Obama always trigger them. And it also shows how Obama is a bigger man than any conservative ever could be.

#5 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 08:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republican snowflakes are very triggered by him.

Oh he's triggered alright...

GOATSHART is primed and ready to take over and ruin his 3rd thread in 24 hours.

Keep watching.

#6 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-10-16 08:18 AM | Reply

5 - we know we saw him throw a baseball in his mom jeans ...

#7 | Posted by homerj at 2019-10-16 08:24 AM | Reply

Is Bergdahl the guy that faked bone spurs to desert the draft?

No, he's the one who had a liberal fit, thought he could just walk up to the Taliban and join them. The intel on base layouts and day to day rhythms he probably gave them alone is enough to label him a traitor.

He should be made to read this guy's obituary over and over along with this news story.

Someone died because you were a putz..

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2019-10-16 09:08 AM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY HOMERJ

Yeah... but did you see the tan suit? Should have been impeached on the spot.

#9 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 09:43 AM | Reply

On November 3, 2017, he was sentenced to be dishonorably discharged, reduced in rank to private and fined $1,000 per month from his pay for ten months, with no prison time.

en.wikipedia.org

Based upon how conservatives talked, it sounded like he should be executed after he was court-martialed. But he didn't even get prison time. Looks like military courts have turned into soft little snowflakes under the Trump administration.

That must have been why conservatives were so pissed off that Obama insisted on bringing him home. They wanted to leave him in the hands of our enemies to be tortured to death. Just like they wanted to outsource the investigation of the Bidens. They apparently think that our justice system, especially under a Republican president and being packed by Republican judges, is FAR INFERIOR to other countries's justice systems.

#10 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 09:53 AM | Reply

Oooh... Oooh... Oooh...

And you remember how INCENSED conservatives were that we were releasing FIVE Taliban so that we could bring our last soldier home.

Now, with Trump's mismanagement of Syria (or him being "managed" by Russia), THOUSANDS of ISIS prisoners are being released. And the conservative reaction... *shrug*

Makes you wonder what the difference is.

#11 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 09:56 AM | Reply

"Don't mention that PoS Bergdahl
#2 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Yeah... Republican snowflakes are very triggered by him. Mainly because they associate him with Obama and Obama always trigger them. And it also shows how Obama is a bigger man than any conservative ever could be.
POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL AT 2019-10-16 08:00 AM "

So Obama is a great man because Bergdahl? A soldier who was tried, convicted of desertion and misbehavior before the enemy, busted to private, and given a dishonorable discharge? This makes Obama "a bigger man than any conservative ever could be."? What a bizarre leap of logic. Are you taking lessons from snoofytown?

As far as "Republican snowflakes", I can't speak for them. (I don't even know who they are). But as an honorably discharged veteran who served honorably for 6 years, I was appalled by what Bergdahl did and how he put many others in danger and getting them shot -- including the subject of this thread.

But hey, that loser made Obama a great guy! LOL Yer stretchin' 'em pretty thin these days, big guy.

#12 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 10:47 AM | Reply

Yeah.... triggered. LOL

#13 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-10-16 11:19 AM | Reply

So Obama is a great man because Bergdahl?

#12 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Yes. Bergdahl was a US soldier captured by the enemy. Obama was the Commander in Chief. It was his job to bring the soldiers home. If that soldier did something in the American military, he should face American justice on American soil.

Conservatives may be fine with abandoning our soldiers to the enemy because he "allegedly" committed a crime, without giving him a chance to defend himself against the accusations (ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?). That would be the "easy" solution, so OF COURSE it would be the one conservatives would choose.

But Obama was a man of integrity, and took his responsibilities as CIC seriously. Something that conservatives could never understand (look... your conservative president is CURRENTLY abandoning our allies).

So, he brought Bergdahl home to face American justice. Instead of outsourcing our "justice" to be implemented by our enemies, as conservatives advocated.

And, big surprise, conservatives are ONCE AGAIN trying to outsource our justice, this time to Ukraine to investigate our elected officials.

The conservative pattern is clear, and is contrary to the values that Americans are SUPPOSED to hold.

YOU built that.

#14 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 11:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Bergdahl was a US soldier captured by the enemy. "

Wrong. He deserted.

Your entire post is based on this lie.

.

#15 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 11:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"YOU built that.

#14 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL"

I had nothing to do with Obama's idiocies. That more likely would have been you.

For the record, the "you built that" has become quite trite. It is rarely used in the context that makes it meaningful as it was before you sheep glommed it and wore it into the ground.

Time to put it in the internet dustbin of hackneyed phrases. Take a new one off the shelf and use it for a few months.

#16 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 11:54 AM | Reply

GOATSHART is primed and ready to take over and ruin his 3rd thread in 24 hours.

Keep watching.

#6 | Posted by J_Tremain
========================

Fraker is warming up....

#17 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-10-16 01:09 PM | Reply

" Bergdahl was a US soldier captured by the enemy. "

Wrong. He deserted.

#15 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

I am confused. Is someone no longer a soldier once they "desert"? If so, how could he have been "dishonorably discharged" in November 2017 (how can you "discharge" someone who is not a soldier)? And I am pretty sure he legally has to be charged and convicted of desertion at a court martial. Which was held in October 2017.

Until then, he is "innocent until proven guilty". Or, do you not believe in the fifth amendment (due process)?

So, Bergdahl WAS a soldier. And he WAS captured by the enemy.

Whether or not he "deserted" is another question. Though, since he plead guilty to desertion IN 2017 then I am not going to belabor the point.

But, to abandon him to the enemy because you THINK (in 2014) he deserted, without giving him a chance to defend himself, is no less than I would expect from a conservative. Hence, why I say that Obama is a bigger man than you (or pretty much any conservative for that matter). Obama actually CARED about the people under his command, when the military was perfectly happy to discard and forget him once he became inconvenient or an embarrassment.

THAT is what YOU built. That is a big reason why I don't respect the military. Because it is clear that "leave no man behind" is just a BS soundbite, but actually means NOTHING to our armed services.

#18 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 01:12 PM | Reply

" Is someone no longer a soldier once they "desert"? "

As far as I know, they are. Who said otherwise?

#19 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 01:35 PM | Reply

" Because it is clear that "leave no man behind" is just a BS soundbite, but actually means NOTHING to our armed services.

#18 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL "

???

The army sent several soldiers to find him even though he deserted. One is the guy who died and this story is about.

Reading is fundamental.

Citation needed to back up your assertion above. Cite just one instance where a man was left behind unless in obviously impossible circumstances to retrieve him.

Just one, or be known as a liar.. You built that.

#20 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 01:39 PM | Reply

"Cite just one instance where a man was left behind unless in obviously impossible circumstances to retrieve him."

Benghazi!
Benghazi!
Benghazi!

Omg a woman in a pantsuit just appeared!

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-16 01:41 PM | Reply

Cite just one instance where a man was left behind unless in obviously impossible circumstances to retrieve him.

#20 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Uhhh... Bergdahl. Obviously not impossible. Obama was able to retrieve him. But, conservatives, a bunch of them military, wanted to leave him in enemy hands.

#22 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 02:53 PM | Reply

"Bergdahl. Obviously not impossible. Obama was able to retrieve him. But, conservatives, a bunch of them military, wanted to leave him in enemy hands.

POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL "

Try again.

According to soldiers involved in the effort to find Bergdahl, at least six soldiers from his battalion were killed during the search.

Jake Tapper (June 1, 2014).

Or are you saying six people dying in an effort to find him wasn't enough? They should have ket sendng more and more people to their deaths?

#23 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 03:01 PM | Reply

"Benghazi!
Benghazi!
Benghazi!
Omg a woman in a pantsuit just appeared!

#21 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

And a straw woman at that!

#24 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 03:02 PM | Reply

"Obama was able to retrieve him."

LOL Is that what you call releasing 5 Taliban (who very likely went back to fighting and possibly killing more American)?

Sure thing. Yea, Obama! He even did it without anyone shooting at him or dying like the 6 others who attempted to rescue them. What a man!

#25 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 03:07 PM | Reply

Or are you saying six people dying in an effort to find him wasn't enough? They should have ket sendng more and more people to their deaths?

#23 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

No... I am saying they should have supported our president in bringing him home. Instead of advocating for him to be "left behind".

Are you saying that the only way soldiers can think of "bringing someone home" is through violence? No wonder those six men died. Maybe if the military taught people to use their brains instead of blindly charging in using just their muscles and expensive toys those men would be alive today.

#26 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 03:09 PM | Reply

He even did it without anyone shooting at him or dying like the 6 others who attempted to rescue them. What a man!

#25 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

He was also SUCCESSFUL. Unlike those men. What would your current president say about that? Probably something about failing or "losers"?

#27 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 03:11 PM | Reply

"No... I am saying they should have supported our president in bringing him home. Instead of advocating for him to be "left behind"."

OK, tell us in our opinion, how many soldiers would have to have died in the rescue attempt before it would be considered futile? Obviously you don't think 6 was enough. Ten maybe? If ten had died, would you call off the search and rescue operation? 35? 50?

Serious question. Please don't dodge it.

#28 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 03:12 PM | Reply

#26 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL "

Still waiting for an answer to my #28.

How many would have had to die before the search operation was called off in your opinion. Obviously the six who did aren't enough in your eyes.

Please do not dodge this question as it appears you are doing,

#29 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 03:18 PM | Reply

"He [Obama] was also SUCCESSFUL. Unlike those men.
#27 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL "

Your right. Those six dead men were not successful.

That is one of the most despicable things I have heard said on this forum about dead American troops

#30 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 03:20 PM | Reply

OK, tell us in our opinion, how many soldiers would have to have died in the rescue attempt before it would be considered futile?

#28 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

I have no problem with them not continuing to try to rescue Bergdahl. You have to weigh the lives of the captured soldier against the lives that might be lost saving that soldier.

I DO have a problem with them advocating for LEAVING Bergdahl in enemy hands after President Obama (someone who actually had a brain) found a non-violent way (through negotiating) of bringing him home.

Obama's method resulted in ZERO lives lost. I, for some reason, MUCH prefer THAT number. And think that bringing our soldier home (regardless of the soldier) is worth way more than 5 Taliban.

#31 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 03:23 PM | Reply

Your right. Those six dead men were not successful.
That is one of the most despicable things I have heard said on this forum about dead American troops

#30 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

If you find the truth despicable, then that is your problem. Go watch some Fox News if you need a safe space without any "truth".

YOU are the one who wanted to compare those men to Obama. If you can't handle the answer, don't ask the question.

#32 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 03:29 PM | Reply

"is worth way more than 5 Taliban."

I wonder how many Americans those 5 killed once they were released? Obviously we'll never know.

""No... I am saying they should have supported our president in bringing him home. Instead of advocating for him to be "left behind".""

So you're saying the Army defied its commander in chief and advocated to leave him behind? That's a bold statement.. Citation needed.

And I'm not talking about a couple of buck privates with an axe to grind whispering in the EM club. They don't speak for the Army. Is that who you are talking about ? If so, that's funny. If not, please cite someone with authority not advocating bringing hi home.

#33 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 03:31 PM | Reply

"If you find the truth despicable, then that is your problem."

So I should rejoice at how you spit on our dead?

It'll never happen. If that's my problem, then so be it.

Are we through here? You and your lack of respect for our soldiers who died looking for Bergdahl disgust me.

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 03:33 PM | Reply

Sure thing. Yea, Obama! He even did it without anyone shooting at him or dying like the 6 others who attempted to rescue them. What a man!

#25 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

He was also SUCCESSFUL. Unlike those men. What would your current president say about that? Probably something about failing or "losers"?

#27 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL

I have not disparaged them. Though, I did point out how the current Conservative president would probably disparage them.

You are triggered because I pointed out that Obama was successful where they failed. And you are now resorting to emotion language about how I "spit on our dead"?

I have done no such thing. But I will not concede the argument because you argue that lying about what happened somehow respects our soldiers.

#TriggeredGoat

Does that mean I win the argument now?

#35 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-16 03:47 PM | Reply

#TriggeredGoat

Does that mean I win the argument now?

Yep.

#36 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-10-17 01:32 AM | Reply

Aaaaand another thread successfully hijacked, trolled and destroyed by GOATSHART.

#37 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-10-17 01:33 AM | Reply

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