Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, October 15, 2019

The stakes are high for candidates participating in Tuesday's CNN/New York Times Democratic debate, as the presidential hopefuls look to remain competitive in the crowded primary field. Former Vice President Joe Biden will stand center stage, flanked by Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont on his right and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts on his left. It will be businessman Tom Steyer's first presidential debate, and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii will return to the stage after failing to qualify for the September debate. -- CNN

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The DNC should cancel and televise the perp-walking of Rudy tootie and pals

I would pay to see that

#1 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-15 07:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Any bets that Trump will allow no debates between himself and the Democratic nominee? In keeping with his continuing and unblemished record of manhood?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-15 07:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I like Warren, but I keep thinking she's going to send me to the Principle's office... again.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Tulsi has guts, unlike most of the hacks on that stage.

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:14 PM | Reply

Joe Biden and Gabbard get my first impression rose on this episode of the bachelor.

#5 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-10-15 08:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yang has allot guts -- more Yang, less Booty-boo-boo ~

#6 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:15 PM | Reply

Anderson Cooper is a hack -- way to qualify that hacktastic question to Uncle Joey and his dork-faced kid, Hunter ~

#7 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:17 PM | Reply

"Yang has allot guts :

It's "a lot". Allot means to dole out.

I'm not a spelling nazi, but that one and "loose" instead of "lose" drive me crazy.

#8 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-15 08:17 PM | Reply

Bernie looks as spry as a 45 year old ~

Go Bernie!

#9 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:20 PM | Reply

Existential threat!

lol

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-15 08:21 PM | Reply

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Looks like Liz yet again speaks with forked tongue, refusing to answer the middle class tax question.

#11 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 08:22 PM | Reply

Bernie is going to start ripping push-ups, 50 at a time ...

Go Bernie!

#12 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:22 PM | Reply

Want a schoolmarm as president? Vote Warren!

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-15 08:23 PM | Reply

Looks like Liz yet again speaks with forked tongue, refusing to answer the middle class tax question.

#11 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

If Warren calls Anderson Cooper, Kemosabe, I'll vote for her ~

#14 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- speaks with forked tongue

When the Leader of your Party is Donald Trump, your room to comment on another pol's veracity is tiny, kinda like...

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:25 PM | Reply

"let's be clear...I won't ever answer that question about middle class taxes"

-Liz

#16 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 08:26 PM | Reply

Booty-Gigi is talking out his ass on M4F.

Bernie is swing his sack ...

Go Bernie!

#17 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:26 PM | Reply

I wrote the damn bill!

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:26 PM | Reply

Swinging his sack ~

#19 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:26 PM | Reply

The Klob!

hahahahahahahahaha

#20 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:27 PM | Reply

#8 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-10-15 08:17 PM |

Don't be such a looser

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-15 08:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

That smattering of applause for The Klob were corporate plants -- disgusting!

#22 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Warren is being attacked by everyone else because she's in the lead. What she is saying is no different than what he is saying.

More circular firing squad.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:28 PM | Reply

The Klob!

hahahahahahahahaha

Bill Maher just creamed his jeans -- sickening!

#24 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:29 PM | Reply

Still tough to watch these debates with over 8 people involved. 6 would be so much better. 12 is too many

#25 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-10-15 08:29 PM | Reply

More corporate bought applause for The Klob -- sickening!

#26 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:30 PM | Reply

I will repeat, I will never acknowledge that taxes go up, and will evade the question forever!

-Also Liz

At least Bernie and Buttigeig have the balls to admit that taxes will go up on M4A.

#27 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 08:30 PM | Reply

When will Jimmy Dore host a debate?

#28 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-15 08:31 PM | Reply

let's be clear...I won't ever answer that question about middle class taxes"

-Liz

#16 | POSTED BY FakeLawyer

Why do you care? We all know you are voting for Daddy Vlad's bitch!

#29 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-10-15 08:32 PM | Reply

Bernie can't argue what Biden said about the numbers, he can only generalize about the problem.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:32 PM | Reply

Biden came into this debate ready with research. Hoping to see more Tulsi and Yang before I go to bed

#31 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-10-15 08:32 PM | Reply

Joe is a friggin' capitalist!

-Bernie

#32 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-15 08:32 PM | Reply

Was it realistic to bail out the Wall Street douchebags to the tune of $12.8 trillion...

U.S. had lent, spent or guaranteed as much as $12.8 trillion to rescue the economy
youtu.be
[9:27]

Bernie has guts -- Go Bernie!

#33 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:32 PM | Reply

Damn right!

Go Bernie!

#34 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:33 PM | Reply

Bernie can't argue what Biden said about the numbers, he can only generalize about the problem.

#30 | POSTED BY CORKY

Trillions upon trillions for Wall Street, precise calculated down to the cent for universal healthcare.

I call that BS.

#35 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:34 PM | Reply

Yang lost some steam going after Bernie ...

I like Yang, but c'mon Yang, pick your spots ~

#36 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:36 PM | Reply

#35 |

I call that generalizing about the problem... and still not answering Biden's point about the numbers.

Yang knows this is true, ax' him.

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:36 PM | Reply

Cory Booker is offended.

I'm offended at having my ears being pummeled at someone being offended.

#38 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:37 PM | Reply

Corey is channeling Yogi Berra?

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:37 PM | Reply

Think I've already seen this debate. It's like deja vu.

#40 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-15 08:38 PM | Reply

C'mon Liz, just one Kemosabe ~

for Big Dadday PinchALoaf!

#41 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:38 PM | Reply

Carol Burnett is a hack.

#42 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:39 PM | Reply

"Don't be such a looser

#21 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER "

LOL

Good one, Bruce. You got me

#43 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-15 08:39 PM | Reply

Julian Castro is a tool.

#44 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:39 PM | Reply

I like Castro, but I'm gonna be honest. He was a terrible president in Cuba, and those military fatigues were so 1959!

#45 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-15 08:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#44

That kind of rhetoric about Dems other than your favorite is not helpful... well, Trump loves it.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:41 PM | Reply

If Yang goes all the way, I'm spending my 1000-bucks on some pitchforks.

Might as get ready for the day the pitchforks come out for the Plutocrats ~

#47 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:41 PM | Reply

Kemosabe, Liz, Kemosabe !

#48 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:41 PM | Reply

"Julian Castro is a tool.

#44 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF "

Tell me. He's my congressman. My subdivision tore him up at a town hall in our common area a couple of years ago. He left in disgrace. His twin brother is a crook. Look up Juaquin Castro.

#49 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-15 08:41 PM | Reply

Yang is real smart guy.
Save a position for him in Biden-Warren administration.

#50 | Posted by Docman at 2019-10-15 08:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I like Castro!

#51 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-15 08:42 PM | Reply

Tulsi and Yang are friends, whoa!

Go Bernie !!!

#52 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:42 PM | Reply

Warren is such a policy wonk.... which is actually a good thing.

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:42 PM | Reply

The solution to automation is obviously importing millions of workers.

#54 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-15 08:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Living on Tulsi time...

She's way prettier than Bernie and just as uninterested in being an actual Democrat.

#55 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-15 08:44 PM | Reply

I'm not sure Cory Booker can spell UAW.

#56 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:44 PM | Reply

Beto DEFINITELY cannot spell UAW

#57 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:45 PM | Reply

$200 a month will move people out of poverty?
Mizz Warren ridin the coo-coo train.

#58 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 08:45 PM | Reply

Beto is late-O

#59 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:45 PM | Reply

Erin Burnett is a hack.

#60 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:46 PM | Reply

#57

Is Putin paying Trump to pay you to trash every Dem but Bernie?

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bernie is looking good -- like he's just turning 39!

#62 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:46 PM | Reply

Class-warfare ...

The corporate douchebags are winning ...

Go Bernie!!!

#63 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:47 PM | Reply

Tom Steyer can kiss my ass ...

Go Bernie!!!

#64 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:47 PM | Reply

I don't know about y'all but this ---- looks like the Adams family to me.

#65 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-15 08:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Jeez, Pinch, take a pill

#66 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-15 08:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Bolshevik Bernie: Ban billionaires.

#67 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-15 08:48 PM | Reply

PinchALoaf works his ass off -- raise my wages, d-bag Steyer!

Go Bernie!!!

#68 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:49 PM | Reply

Remember the song?

#69 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-15 08:49 PM | Reply

Uncle Joey -- hey, where's Kamala?

#70 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:49 PM | Reply

Uncle Joey forgot how to count -- time for the pasture, Pops!

#71 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:50 PM | Reply

Not ONE of these clowns will answer a question.
" So, first let me say...blah blah blah

#72 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 08:50 PM | Reply

--this ---- looks like the Adams family to me.

But less connected to reality.

#73 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-15 08:51 PM | Reply

Liz, swinging her moccasins around like a spiked chain -- I like it!

#74 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:52 PM | Reply

But less connected to reality.

#73 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-10-15 08:51 PM | FLAG:

I beg to differ. They're representin'

#75 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-15 08:52 PM | Reply

Booty-Gigi isn't presidential material -- tax the billionaires like white on rice.

#76 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:53 PM | Reply

The Klob!

hahahahahahahahaha

Klob is clobbering Warren ...

gross!

#77 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:53 PM | Reply

I wouldn't mine seeing Warren rip The Klob a new one ~

#78 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:54 PM | Reply

Even Biden's economic policies are not much different than the rest of the candidates.

I wish they would go in the back room, arm wrestle *Indian leg wrestle for the nomination, and have no more debates.

They spend so much time trying to differentiate themselves and their common FDR-ish policies that they look silly.

"Even the billionaire wants to tax billionaires!" lol

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:55 PM | Reply

The Klob is only up on that stage because Bill Maher pushed her up their.

Maher used to have big brass balls -- but he's now a corporate toadie ~

#80 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 08:55 PM | Reply

Could someone pls call Pinch's mom and tell her to take away that bottle.

#81 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:56 PM | Reply

Dulli talking about "reality" is like Trump talking about truth-telling... it's laughable.

#82 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 08:58 PM | Reply

Ok that's enough. Back to my Twilight Zone marathon.

#83 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-15 08:59 PM | Reply

If Warren's popularity doesn't plummet after this, we better not trust polls.
Oh wait.

#84 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 09:01 PM | Reply

#83

Where you belong.

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:01 PM | Reply

Booker is right about tearing each other down.

That's doing Trump, and Pinch's, werk for them.

#86 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:03 PM | Reply

I'm falling asleep -- this is a debate?

Democrats ARE blowing it.

Tax billionaire douchebags, give workers a BIG raise, rebuild America -- rule like FDR.

For Chrissakes, do I have to do everything!

#87 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:04 PM | Reply

Yang and Butty are the winners

#88 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 09:05 PM | Reply

"Democrats ARE blowing it.
#87 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF "

It's what they do best. See 2010, 2012, 2016 if any further proof is needed

#89 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-15 09:06 PM | Reply

Booker is right about tearing each other down.

That's doing Trump, and Pinch's, werk for them.

#86 | POSTED BY CORKY

Trump is the worst ever presidential candidate ever, and the Democrats lost to him -- a political novice and reality games show host.

Democrats lost to George W. Numbnuts, the SECOND worst president ever.

Democrats should be beating these chumps by landslide margins, but they keep losing.

Only Bernie can beat Trump.

#90 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:09 PM | Reply

Yang and Butty are the winners

#88 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

So long as Bernie doesn't suddenly clutch his chest, Bernie wins!

#91 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:10 PM | Reply

Tulsi is awesome!

Go Tulsi!

Down with the MIC!

Ike would be proud!

#92 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:12 PM | Reply

Liz Warren = "Trump sucks dictators"

QFT

#93 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:13 PM | Reply

Tulsi is awesome!

Go Tulsi!

Down with the MIC!

Ike would be proud!

#92 | Posted by PinchALoaf

Tulsi is in a cult and funded by putin. Sorry.

#94 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-15 09:13 PM | Reply

Booty-boo-boo is a lightweight up there ~

#95 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:14 PM | Reply

- Only Bernie can beat Trump.

He says he's a Democrat... again.

And polls say he isn't the only one that can beat Russia, er, I mean Trump.

It's nice that you have a Bernie Hobby, but tearing down other candidates is only helping Trump if one of them is chosen by voters in a primary to be the nominee.

#96 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:14 PM | Reply

Tulsi is in a cult and funded by putin. Sorry.

#94 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

The Cult of Dwight D. Eisenhower ~

#97 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:15 PM | Reply

" Only Bernie can beat Trump."
-------.

#98 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 09:17 PM | Reply

Bernie agrees with Joe and Pete.... Pincha on respirator!

#99 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:18 PM | Reply

It's nice that you have a Bernie Hobby, but tearing down other candidates is only helping Trump if one of them is chosen by voters in a primary to be the nominee.

#96 | Posted by Corky

Um that's called a contest. You dont win by saying your opponent is awesome and nothing is wrong with them. You win by pointing out their flaws and saying why you're better. Like everyone else does to bernie.

#100 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-15 09:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's nice that you have a Bernie Hobby, but tearing down other candidates is only helping Trump if one of them is chosen by voters in a primary to be the nominee.

#96 | POSTED BY CORKY

Tearing down other candidates?

Spare me.

Neoliberal Democrats have torn down working and middle-class Americans since the day Bill Clinton was elected president and rammed a Republican written NAFTA trade bill thru Congress.

In the 2008/09 Great Recession, Obama sides with Wall Street douchebags over homeowners who got suck with under-water mortgages for the rest of their lives while Wall Street ------ were not held responsible.

Hillary, who I voted for, remember? She wanted to continue the same Neoliberal policies. And she lost to a fake populist in Trump.

And that's why Bernie is popular, and why Democrats lose.

#101 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- Um that's called a contest.

A contest, as Booker pointed out, doesn't require tearing down the other candidates, only contrasting policies.

Which is, as I said, difficult because they pretty much agree on one form or another of FDR-ish policy.

I can refer you to a 4 min example:

www.youtube.com

#102 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:24 PM | Reply

Awww.... Bernie just hugged Joe!

And lost Pinch's vote.

These folks will all be hugging each other after the debate, and some people here will still be steaming.

#103 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:26 PM | Reply

A contest, as Booker pointed out, doesn't require tearing down the other candidates, only contrasting policies.

#102 | Posted by Corky

What did he say that was "tearing down?" I suspect it was a contrast that was too hard for another candidate to deal with.

#104 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-15 09:26 PM | Reply

Biden is friggin' awesome. He just slyly pointed at Sanders while referencing Vladimir Putin, then coyly denied it.

#105 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 09:27 PM | Reply

"A contest, as Booker pointed out, doesn't require tearing down the other candidates, only contrasting policies.
POSTED BY CORKY "

Corky, mud slinging has been a mainstay of American politics since Thomas Jefferson.

Welcome to the 21st century, Rip van Winkle.

"The Dirtiest Presidential Campaign Ever"

www.forbes.com

#106 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-15 09:27 PM | Reply

Wat the hell is that albino billionaire doing up there? Homer Simpson has a better chance.

#107 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 09:28 PM | Reply

#101

Thanks for the 5th grade synopsis. I'm just glad you have someone other than the Dem nominee to fall back on if it isn't Bernie... you know, someone you haven't trashed beyond redemption.

Oh, wait, you don't.

#108 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:28 PM | Reply

Which is, as I said, difficult because they pretty much agree on one form or another of FDR-ish policy.

#102 | POSTED BY CORKY

The Democratic Party forgot how to spell FDR, willfully.

The Democratic Party is the party of the professional class, the 10%, that's who they serve and cater to.

The Democratic Party only pays lip service to the working and middle-class, they treat ordinary workers with dismissive contempt.

That's the truth since Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

#109 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:29 PM | Reply

#106

Redstate and Stormfront just called and they want you back. Pls comply.

#110 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:29 PM | Reply

Thanks for the 5th grade synopsis. I'm just glad you have someone other than the Dem nominee to fall back on if it isn't Bernie... you know, someone you haven't trashed beyond redemption.

Oh, wait, you don't.

#108 | POSTED BY CORKY

Bernie, Yang, Tulsi, Warren (maybe), the ghost of FDR -- in that order ~

#111 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:30 PM | Reply

The Klob!

hahahahahahahahahahaha

#112 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:31 PM | Reply

How will you confiscate the assault weapons?
So...first let me say blah blah blah
ANSWER THE GOTDAM QUESTION

#113 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 09:32 PM | Reply

Awww.... Bernie just hugged Joe!

#103 | POSTED BY CORKY

Bernie was picking Joey's pocket.

#114 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:33 PM | Reply

Reminder - in 2016 dems nominated an ex senator who voted for the iraq war, took money from wall street, had a long history of bad judgement on issues before changing her mind, and several borderline-scandals that could be spun into scandals by trump.

Want to repeat the results? Nominate Biden!

Swing voters who were so sick of the status quo and desperate for change that they voted for donald trump can surely be won back by nominating a guy who says "let's go back to 2015" and tells wall street bankers that nothing will need to change for them. Right?

#115 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-15 09:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#109

Complete nonsense. Clinton opened her campaign at Roosevelt Island. Your leftier than thou BS notwithstanding.

The doom of the Dem party, and the triumph of Trump if he is reelected will be the Puridopians who buh-lieve that it's their way or the highway;

"Bernie is the ONLY one who can beat Trump!" is just such BS.

#116 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:36 PM | Reply

40K dead Americans a year due to gun violence.

Yet medical error is the 3rd leading cause of death in America.

Fix healthcare, dum dums!

Bernie's Medicare-for-All is the answer!

#117 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:36 PM | Reply

Beto is Lame-O

#118 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:37 PM | Reply

Complete nonsense. Clinton opened her campaign at Roosevelt Island.

#116 | POSTED BY CORKY

An island named after Jethro Buford Roosevelt.

Whoever he is ...

Big deal!

#119 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:40 PM | Reply

#115

Reminder - in 2016 Bernie lost a landslide vote in a much more liberal electorate than the general election.

And the idea that he would have done better than losing by a fraction of a fraction of a percent in the EC is... wishful thinking.

And today, he's barely running in the top 3 in that same primary, and less in the general voting population.

#120 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:40 PM | Reply

Clinton opened her campaign at Roosevelt Island.

Really? Well it was a mental institution.

#121 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-15 09:40 PM | Reply

An island named after... FDR.

#122 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:43 PM | Reply

Castro completely ignores the handgun question.
~braaaap

#123 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 09:44 PM | Reply

Sorry Beto, you're NOT taking my AR's and AK. None of the rest of these clowns either.

#124 | Posted by willowby at 2019-10-15 09:45 PM | Reply

#121

Expert on mental institutions.

Here's mAndrea after learning that Trump is a traitor...

www.youtube.com

#125 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:46 PM | Reply

Yang should be in the next Cabinet.

#126 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:50 PM | Reply

Reminder - in 2016 Bernie lost a landslide vote in a much more liberal electorate than the general election.

And the idea that he would have done better than losing by a fraction of a fraction of a percent in the EC is... wishful thinking.

And today, he's barely running in the top 3 in that same primary, and less in the general voting population.

#120 | POSTED BY CORKY

Remember that a Democratic-Socialist name Bernie Sanders from tiny Vermont started his 2016 candidacy polling single digits and almost toppled the candidate chosen and fully backed by mighty Democratic Party's entire structure.

And, in the process, Bernie single-handedly dragged the entire Democratic Party into talking about issues that ordinary Americans ACTUALLY care about ...

www.salon.com

Allow Government to Negotiate Drug Prices (79%)
Give Students the Same Low Interest Rates as Big Banks (78%)
Universal Pre-Kindergarten (77%)
Fair Trade that Protect Workers, the Environment, and Jobs (75%)
End Tax Loopholes for Corporations that Ship Jobs Overseas (74%)
End Gerrymandering (73%)
Let Homeowners Pay Down Mortgage With 401k (72%)
Debt-Free College at All Public Universities (Message A) (71%)
Infrastructure Jobs Program -- $400 Billion / Year (71%)
Require NSA to Get Warrants (71%)
Disclose Corporate Spending on Politics/Lobbying (71%)
Medicare Buy-In for All (71%)
Close Offshore Corporate Tax Loopholes (70%)
Green New Deal -- Millions Of Clean-Energy Jobs (70%)
Full Employment Act (70%)
Expand Social Security Benefits (70%)

All of the above are in line with Bernie Sanders' politics and all are extremely popular, with support across the political spectrum.


Most importantly, Bernie built a long lasting organization that isn't going away.

#127 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:51 PM | Reply

Wrong Joe. Not registering them either.

#128 | Posted by willowby at 2019-10-15 09:52 PM | Reply

An island named after... FDR.

#122 | POSTED BY CORKY

Frankie Deal Rummy?

Isn't that a Vegas card dealer?

#129 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:53 PM | Reply

How long is this debate?

#130 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 09:54 PM | Reply

Bernie getting the health question -- grand slam homerun coming up!

#131 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:54 PM | Reply

- almost toppled the candidate

With a landslide 3 million vote loss in the progressive Dem primary?

He would have lost by a lot more in the more conservative general election.

I've been a fan since 1972, but that doesn't mean I think he would have won just because I like him.

#132 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:56 PM | Reply

Bernie is all class, unlike the Democratic Party.

#133 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:56 PM | Reply

Lol what's Bernie gonna say? I don't feel good?

#134 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 09:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

With a landslide 3 million vote loss in the progressive Dem primary?

He would have lost by a lot more in the more conservative general election.

#132 | POSTED BY CORKY

You have it all backwards -- I believe liberal scholars like Thomas Frank and Chris Hedges before your mistaken analysis.

#135 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:58 PM | Reply

Gotta say Warren is pretty spry for her age.

Maybe Dulli would date her if she devo-ed, too.

#136 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 09:58 PM | Reply

what's Bernie gonna say? I don't feel good?

#134 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLEM

Bernie looks great, like he's 30!

#137 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 09:59 PM | Reply

Tulsi got my vote!

#138 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 10:00 PM | Reply

"Bernie is all class, unlike the Democratic Party.

#133 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF"

I agree with that. I trust him more than any of the other candidates with anything. Except the presidency. His politics suck.

Jimmy Carter was also an honorable person, but he was a ------ resident.

#139 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-15 10:00 PM | Reply

#135

That's hilarious. I'll see your Frank and raise you a Chomsky any day. And I doubt Hedges would bet on Bernie this time.

#140 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 10:00 PM | Reply

Tulsi is 38?

CNN should show her presidential ad of her on that surfboard!

#141 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:01 PM | Reply

Bernie looks great, like he's 30!
#137 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

Your troll meme is outrageous.

#142 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 10:01 PM | Reply

Tulsi rules, Erin Burnett drools ~

#143 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:01 PM | Reply

Bernie looks great, like he's 30!

#137 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

Your troll meme is outrageous.

#142 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

Bernie has an iron-will constitution and the musculature of Mr. America ...

Bernie will be fine ~

#144 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Joe sez no more OJT.
Good point.

#145 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 10:04 PM | Reply

Most speaking time so far:

Warren 14:30
Biden 10:57
O'Rourke 9:31
Klobuchar 9:10

#146 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 10:04 PM | Reply

Thought so:

Chris Hedges: Democrats may well lose to Trump again, and Bernie Sanders is "naive"

?He's a white liberal. White liberals feel uncomfortable around people of color, especially black people. I would also guess that Bernie probably doesn't have very many close relationships, if any, with African-Americans who didn't go to Harvard Law School. I just think he's completely tone-deaf. I think we saw that early on in his campaign."

www.salon.com

#147 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-15 10:06 PM | Reply

It's cute how Dorkus of Nothingham thinks that people actually read his posts.

#148 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:07 PM | Reply

Force Amazon to break up? Lol

#149 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 10:09 PM | Reply

LMAO, did Cory just say "as the only Vegan on this stage..."?

What a tool.

#150 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Beto is like the guy who was bitten by Zombies but doesn't realize that he is done yet.

#151 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's hilarious. I'll see your Frank and raise you a Chomsky any day. And I doubt Hedges would bet on Bernie this time.

#140 | POSTED BY CORKY

Is that a joke?

Chomsky is all about leaders like Bernie Sanders.

Chomsky talks about the evils of Neoliberalism, and that's all about the current corporate bought Democrats and the present day Democratic Party.

#152 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:11 PM | Reply

So long as Bernie doesn't suddenly clutch his chest, Bernie wins ~

Go Bernie!

#153 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:13 PM | Reply

Tulsi got my vote!

#138 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2019-10-15 10:00 PM | FLAG:

Oh, is that what you're holding?

#154 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-15 10:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The next debate should have Bernie, Yang, Tulsi, Warren, Uncle Joey, and that's it ~

#155 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:16 PM | Reply

The Klob speaks...

#156 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I feel like a visitor in the green room of a mental institution.
Pontificating crackpottery abounds.

#157 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 10:16 PM | Reply

The Klob!

hahahahahahahahahahaha

#158 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:17 PM | Reply

A lot of failed attacks against fellow candidates tonight. Harris looks weak and desperate trying to take down Warren. Earlier, Buttigieg looked uncharacteristically irrational when he went after O'Rourke.

#159 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 10:17 PM | Reply

The Klob is overly fond of gesticulation.

#160 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Every time The Klob speaks, Bill Maher creams his jeans.

Sickening

#161 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:18 PM | Reply

Oh, is that what you're holding?
#154 | POSTED BY CBOB

~looks down.. So first let me...

#162 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 10:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yang hit the nail on the head re: monetization of personal data.

#163 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#128
Wrong Willoby, you just registered them. What the hell do think Snowden was trying to warn you about?

#164 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-10-15 10:19 PM | Reply

Kammie is a one issue warrior right now, which is a surefire indicator that she is resigning herself to VP status.

#165 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:20 PM | Reply

The Klob wants Donnie Little Hands on the stage with her.

#166 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:20 PM | Reply

The other week, I saw a Kamala bumper sticker in my neighborhood.

Of course, I've decorated practically every lamp pole and road sign within a 5-block radius around my apartment building with Bernie stickers ...

Feel The Bern!

#167 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:21 PM | Reply

"Did I mention that I am a Vegan?"

-Cory

#168 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Preclearance?" Is that what she said? She's nuckin' futs, fails federalism.

#169 | Posted by et_al at 2019-10-15 10:22 PM | Reply

Jesus. That Hillary fan club sounds like the mafia. You WILL sing her praises or else. Right Corky??

#170 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-10-15 10:22 PM | Reply

The Klob wants Donnie Little Hands on the stage with her.

#166 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

The Klob vs The Orange Orangutan

WWE at it's finest!

#171 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:23 PM | Reply

Booker will create an Office of reproductive freedom and reproductive rights? Hahaha.

#172 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 10:23 PM | Reply

Tulsi not busting her time response just made Carol Burnett a very happy media hack ~

#173 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:25 PM | Reply

Tulsi looks like she is prepping to run against that lightweight Schatz in 2022.

#174 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:25 PM | Reply

"Reproductive rights are a constitutional right. Every woman should have the right to reproductive freedom."

But only women, right?

#175 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 10:26 PM | Reply

Wow, Bernie throwing down against Biden!

#176 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:31 PM | Reply

Democrats wouldn't have to pack the SCOTUS if they'd actually stand up against Republicans ...

Bush stealing the election from Gore, that's how many court selections?

Obama letting Mitch McConnell walk all over him, that's one.

Hillary losing to the all-time worst presidential candidate ever, that's some more Dem court picks flushed down the crapper.

I want to vote for Democrats, but c'mon, get tough!

#177 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:32 PM | Reply

Bernie is spitting.
Joe sez do NOT be vague with the "Plan".
That made Warren twitch.

#178 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 10:33 PM | Reply

Wow, Bernie throwing down against Biden!

#176 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

So long as Bernie doesn't suddenly clutch his chest, Bernie wins!

#179 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:33 PM | Reply

I'm starting to doze off ~

#180 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:34 PM | Reply

Booty-boo-boo is a lightweight ~

#181 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:36 PM | Reply

Bernie keeps raising his hand. That's dangerous for a cardiac patient.

#182 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 10:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I knew The Klob would bring out the Minnesota Mom shtick.

#183 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

After the juggling and acrobat sections of the contest, it's on to the 2 minute comedy routines.

#184 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-15 10:39 PM | Reply

20 more minutes, damn ...

I gotta see Bernie get across the finish line tonight, then I get to hit the hay ~

#185 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:39 PM | Reply

I love how awkward that earlier exchange was.

Biden: "You did a hell of a job!"

Warren: (pauses to figure out if that was an insult or a compliment) "Thank you."

#186 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 10:39 PM | Reply

71% of Democrats support Medicare-For-All ...

Put that in you Neoliberal pipes and smoke it, ----------!

Go Bernie!

#187 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:40 PM | Reply

I really think Joe is showing that he's the one who could actually unsettle Trump and throw him off in a one on one debate.

#188 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 10:41 PM | Reply

Cory Booker is a hack -- the VA never had a wait time problem, the VA has a staff-shortage problem of 40,000 doctors and nurses.

VA has 41,500 unfilled medical jobs, forcing vets into costly private care
www.usatoday.com

QFT

#189 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:42 PM | Reply

If medicare becomes voluntary, how much is the buy in?
Mandatory means free, volunteer means the choice between that or pvt insurance.

#190 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-15 10:44 PM | Reply

I knew The Klob would bring out the Minnesota Mom shtick.

#183 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

QFT

#191 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:44 PM | Reply

Ellen Degeneres and war criminal George Bush palling around.

Rich, out-of-touch phony, class-hole.

Sickening!

#192 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:47 PM | Reply

class-holes!

#193 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:48 PM | Reply

The Klob!

hahahahahahahahahaha

#194 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:49 PM | Reply

John McCain was a war hero.

He was also WAY too much in love with war.

#195 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:51 PM | Reply

Liar Steyer -- I'm sure Trump has that one locked and loaded ~

#196 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:52 PM | Reply

Woah! Andrew Yang is friends with Freddy Krueger!!!

#197 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 10:57 PM | Reply

Yang reaching out to Trump voters ...

See Democrats, you can win elections by advocating real policies that help ordinary Americans.

What a concept!

#198 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 10:58 PM | Reply

This is the worst layup question ever asked in a debate.

#199 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 10:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ohhhh, Mayor Pete just said "when I go outside the wire"...Tulsi must be getting the vapors, forever unrequited, of course.

#200 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:00 PM | Reply

John McCain getting Bernie love...and now Mike Lee?

Looks like Bernie is trying to move a little to the middle.

#201 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:01 PM | Reply

At least one of NYT correspondents appears to be calling BS on Yang's "Fred" friend.

#202 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 11:02 PM | Reply

At least one of NYT correspondents appears to be calling BS on Yang's "Fred" friend.

#203 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-15 11:02 PM | Reply

Bernie is still standing, Bernie wins the debate ~

Go Bernie!

#204 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 11:03 PM | Reply

Liz also trying to show her "reaching across the aisle" chops, with her mentor and her brothers being...gasp!!!...Republicans. Take that Bernie!!

So absurd.

#205 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:03 PM | Reply

Biden just took back the "across the aisle" mantle.

Nice try by Bernie and Liz though.

It sounds like McCain should never have lost to Obama, to hear all these candidates talk about how awesome he was, including VP Biden.

#206 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:05 PM | Reply

Cheroooo-keee peeeoooople

duh duh duh duhnt!!!!!!

Cheroooo-keee tri-iiiibe

duh duh duh duhnt!!!!!!

So hard to liiiiivvvvve

So hard to die!

#207 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 11:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Biden got a little feisty on the close, that's encouraging to see.

#208 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:06 PM | Reply

#207

OK. that made me spit out my beer I laughed so hard, better than me naming The Klob by far.

Well done.

#209 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:07 PM | Reply

I got another window open and Matt Taibbi and Katie Halper were doing their debate drinking game ...

And their all ------ up, LOL

www.youtube.com

I LUV those guys!

#210 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 11:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Best Tulsi Gabbard moment:

"When I look out at our country, I don't see deplorables I see fellow Americans. People who I treat with respect even when we disagree and when we disagree strongly."

To use Pinch's fave...QFT

#211 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Live, from DNC Headquarters

#212 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:23 PM | Reply

Nationals sweep Cardinals ...

Next stop for the Nasty Nats, World Series ~

#213 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-15 11:33 PM | Reply

I was hoping for the Cards, but I knew it wouldn't happen. Didn't expect a sweep, though.

#214 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-15 11:36 PM | Reply

Joyce Alene @JoyceWhiteVance

Is it just me, or is it weird that we've learned this week that the president of the United States is a crook & Democrats in this debate aren't uniting to hammer that point home while so many people are watching?

Rick Wilson @TheRickWilson

Because they are holistically terrible at the knife work of politics and don't understand moments of opportunity.

#215 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-15 11:40 PM | Reply

#164

Contingency plans, bruce.

#216 | Posted by willowby at 2019-10-15 11:43 PM | Reply

#215

I disagree, because Donnie Little Hands main attack has been and continues to be that Impeachment is all that the Democrats are about, I think that it was refreshing for voters to hear the Dem Candidates talk about anything other than Hyperpartisan TDS.

#217 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:46 PM | Reply

Charles Ghoulba @charles_gaba (Healthcare analyst at http://ACASignups.net)

(Sigh) NO, Bernie, 71% of Americans support EITHER Medicare for All *or* Medicare for All Who Want It. MULTIPLE polls have shown that a big chunk of respondents who say they support "M4All" assume it would be optional for them.

#218 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-15 11:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#217 Who said they have to talk about impeachment? Lots of other things that they could take Trump to task on--promises made and broken that have nothing to do with the dreaded "I" word.

#219 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-15 11:51 PM | Reply

Wow, The Klob is moving so fast between the various net and cable outlets you would think that she just heard that Golden Corral just announced an "All the Fried Shrimp You Can Eat" promotion.

#220 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#219

Point===>Missed.

People want to hear about what the Candidates are going to do...not how bad Trump is. Pretty sure most people have made up their mind on that issue, one way or the other.

#221 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:54 PM | Reply

Best line from Mayor Pete, in retort to Bobby O'Rouke's accusing him of being a coward on gun control:

"I don't need lessons from you on courage, political or personal."

SNAP!

#222 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-15 11:58 PM | Reply

"People want to hear about what the Candidates are going to do...not how bad Trump is. Pretty sure most people have made up their mind on that issue, one way or the other."

A good politician would connect the two. Compare and contrast. Doesn't have to be on how bad Trump is personally, rather on how bad his failed promises and actual policies have turned out to be and what they will do that's different, better.

#223 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 12:04 AM | Reply

Playing favorites with a very heavy hand.

Only watched a half hour. Will pursue other sources of info.

#224 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-10-16 12:13 AM | Reply

Will pursue other sources of info.

#224 | POSTED BY FRESNO500 AT 2019-10-16 12:13 AM

The Root just doubled its usual traffic.

#225 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-16 12:29 AM | Reply

Good Kamala after debate interview with Chris Hayes on why Trump on Twitter matters. Love her clarity, tenacity and passion here and can't understand why Warren didn't seem to get it:

twitter.com

#226 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 12:39 AM | Reply

Another funny moment, Beto talking effusively about his friend "Will".

Beto kid: "Mom, where's dad?"

Beto mom: "Sorry, Honey, he's on a road trip with his friend Will again. He'll be home on Saturday. Maybe."

#227 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-16 12:49 AM | Reply

Playing favorites with a very heavy hand.

Only watched a half hour. Will pursue other sources of info.

#224 | POSTED BY FRESNO500

Don't waste your time ~

Just use me as your source.

#228 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 12:51 AM | Reply

Trigger warning for those who need it. I learned something new about Tulsi and Jimmy Dore tonight:

Sky Palma @DeadStateTweets

I've yet to hear a single debate moderator or journalist ask #Tulsi about this.

Tulsi Gabbard is promoting a 9/11 truther who said Syrian chemical weapons attacks were false flags'

deadstate.org

#229 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 12:56 AM | Reply

#227 So that's why Beto had to hit the road to find himself. Sounds like Will is a very special friend indeed. (JK)

#230 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 12:59 AM | Reply

Trigger warning for those who need it. I learned something new about Tulsi and Jimmy Dore tonight:

I've yet to hear a single debate moderator or journalist ask #Tulsi about this.

Tulsi Gabbard is promoting a 9/11 truther who said Syrian chemical weapons attacks were false flags'

The Syrian chemical attacks were staged by CIA operatives ...

Syrian Gas Attacks Were Staged Leaked Documents Reveal
youtu.be
[16:41]

So CNN, who pushed the original hoax about Assad gassing his own people, would not be so dumb as to ask Tulsi a quesion about a hoax that's been debunked months ago.

How about you needing a trigger warning from foolishly referencing a hacktastic conspiracy theory website like dead state.org.

#231 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 01:58 AM | Reply

Jimmy Dore garbage again.

#232 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-16 07:06 AM | Reply

Jimmy Dore garbage again.

#232 | POSTED BY DANN

Here you go ...

New Evidence Suggests 2018 Chemical Attack in Douma, Syria Was Staged
therealnews.com

Leaked documents from the Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) that were analyzed by MIT Prof. Theodore Postol about the 2018 chemical attack in Douma, Syria, contradict the official UN report.

An analysis of a leaked document from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons finds that the chemical weapons attack in Douma, Syria on April 7, 2018 was most likely staged. The analysis of the documents leaked show evidence that the attack may not only have been staged, but probably not conducted by the government of Bashar al Assad.


Don't be lazy, Danni.

#233 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 07:18 AM | Reply

BBC Producer's Syria Bombshell: Douma "Gas Attack" Footage "Was Staged"
www.globalresearch.ca

Now approaching nearly a year after the April 7, 2018 alleged chemical attack in Douma, Syria " which the White House used as a pretext to bomb Syrian government facilities and bases throughout Damascus " a BBC reporter who investigated the incident on the ground has issued public statements saying the "Assad sarin attack" on Douma was indeed "staged".

Riam Dalati is a well-known BBC Syria producer who has long reported from the region. He shocked his nearly 20,000 twitter followers on Wednesday, which includes other mainstream journalists from major outlets, by stating that after a "six month investigation" he has concluded,

"I can prove without a doubt that the Douma Hospital scene was staged."


QFT

#234 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 07:24 AM | Reply

Newly Revealed Documents Show Syrian Chemical "Attacks Were Staged"
accuracy.org

The British-based Working Group on Syria, Propaganda and Media recently revealed an internal engineering assessment by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons that undermines claims justifying U.S. attacks on Syria.

QFT

#235 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 07:29 AM | Reply

Bias, Lies & Videotape: Doubts Dog Confirmed' Syria Chemical Attacks
www.theamericanconservative.com

Disturbing new evidence suggests 2018 incident might've been staged, putting everything else, including U.S. retaliation, into question.

Thanks to an explosive internal memo, there is no reason to believe the claims put forward by the Syrian opposition that President Bashar al-Assad's government used chemical weapons against innocent civilians in Douma back in April. This is a scenario I have questioned from the beginning.

It also calls into question all the other conclusions and reports by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which was assigned in 2014 "to establish facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals, reportedly chlorine, for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic."


QFT

#236 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 07:32 AM | Reply

Someone is focusing on the headline instead of reading the whole article:

From NBC News:

An NBC News analysis of the main English-language news sites employed by Russia in its 2016 election meddling shows Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is set to make her formal announcement Saturday, has become a favorite of the sites Moscow used when it interfered in 2016.

Several experts who track websites and social media linked to the Kremlin have also seen what they believe may be the first stirrings of an upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard.

So to revisit the question at the top of this article: Does Gabbard know who she's endorsing, or does she just see Dore and his cohorts as convenient anti-war voices she can reference to bolster the anti-interventionalist image she's cultivating? Considering her comments to Rogan, it would seem she knows exactly who she's promoting, so let's take a brief look at the "interesting conversations" Dore is facilitating.

On the May 4, 2017 edition of his show, Dore had on as a guest Eva Bartlett, a frequent RT contributor who originally made her name as a pro-Palestinian activist and blogger. Bartlett, who is Canadian, has been at the forefront of a group of media figures who are unapologetically pro-Assad and who've characterized victims of Syrian bombings as being part of staged events, i.e., crisis actors taking part in false flag operations. At the outset of the segment, Dore praised Bartlett as a "great journalist doing some really great reporting that's coming out of Syria," adding that she's "been giving us the truth about what's been happening" in the region.

For almost 30 minutes, Dore fawned over Bartlett as she mocked the idea that Assad is a brutal abuser of human rights and a war criminal and referred to reports that his regime used chemical weapons against civilians as "lies." At one point in the segment, Dore called the Arab Spring protests that were crushed by the Syrian military in 2011 "thuggish," adding that the uprising was orchestrated by "outside agitators" such as "Al Qaeda" and "ISIS." The entire video is worth watching because it's basically one of the most complete and deferential whitewashings of Assad's crimes that any authoritarian dictator could ask for.

Just a month before Bartlett's appearance, Dore pushed the false flag narrative on his show in a video titled, "Evidence Suggests S-Y-R-I-A G-A-S ATTACK Is False Flag." In the video, he repeats the false claims that the Syrian first responders known as the White Helmets are actually Al Qaeda affiliates who stage bombing scenes in an effort to frame Assad as a war criminal. It's the same infantile and conspiracy-laden logic that Dore used during his 9/11 truther days.

#237 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 08:32 AM | Reply

Dore and Rogan are also Seth Rich truthers.

#238 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 08:38 AM | Reply

Someone is focusing on the headline instead of reading the whole article:

#237 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Someone, YOU, can't add up what 2 + 2 equals.

The Syrian gas attack was debunked.

The people who staged it got what they wanted, which was Trump dropping bombs on the Assad forces immediately in the aftermath of the initial reports.

This isn't about Jimmy Dore or some lame douchebag you cite from a crap website called Deadstate -- the gas attack in Syria was a set-up by CIA-backed operatives (like that's never happened before) and the MSM like CNN pushed it to naive and gullible news consumers like you.

The obvious question at the time that was being asked by everyone NOT in the MSM was why Assad was gassing his own people BECAUSE he was winning the civil war -- gassing his own people had the potential to change that dynamic by drawing in a massive U.S. response. Do you understand what "motive" means?

Show some critical thinking for a change.

#239 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 08:48 AM | Reply

Dore and Rogan are also Seth Rich truthers.

#238 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

So

If it bothers you that people question things, take a Prozac.

Rogan is awesome.

#240 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 08:49 AM | Reply

"Bias, Lies & Videotape: Doubts Dog Confirmed' Syria Chemical Attacks"

I questioned at the time whether the gas attacks were conducted by Assange, but there is a difference between questioning the gas attacks and whitewashing all of Assad's actions in Syria.

#241 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 08:53 AM | Reply

@ Gal

... speaking of "Truthers", people here on this website think Dubya and Cheney staged 9/11.

BFD

George W. Numbnuts can't even manage a lemonade stand, let alone stage 9/11.

But you never see me getting all huffy about it.

You need to use your noodle, like, more often ~

#242 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 08:55 AM | Reply

I questioned at the time whether the gas attacks were conducted by Assange, but there is a difference between questioning the gas attacks and whitewashing all of Assad's actions in Syria.

#241 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Suggesting Julian Assange conducted the gas attacks is pretty stupid.

Anymore softballs you want to lob my way?

#243 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 08:57 AM | Reply

"Show some critical thinking for a change."

Like I said, I questioned the gas attacks at the time and for the reasons you state. I do use critical thinking, which is why I question Dore, Rogan and Gabbard as well.

#244 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 08:57 AM | Reply

Assange = Assad

Sorry, I had Assange on my mind as well because of the Seth Rich conspiracy.

#245 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 08:59 AM | Reply

Like I said, I questioned the gas attacks at the time and for the reasons you state. I do use critical thinking, which is why I question Dore, Rogan and Gabbard as well.

#244 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

You need to start from what you're told by corporate controlled media and walk it backwards from there ...

That's the template you need to apply on everything reported from CNN, MSNBC, FOX, NPR, NYT, WaPo, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc.,

I'm here to help ~

#246 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 09:02 AM | Reply

"gullible news consumers like you"

I know you probably can't see it, but there are gullible Dore and Rogan type news consumers too.

#247 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 09:02 AM | Reply

Assange = Assad

Sorry, I had Assange on my mind as well because of the Seth Rich conspiracy.

#245 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

No Problem

"To Err is Human"

See how reasonable I am?

You're welcome ~

#248 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-16 09:03 AM | Reply

"To Err is Human"

Indeed it is.

#249 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 09:06 AM | Reply

"Three hours and no questions tonight about climate, housing, or immigration," tweeted Castro. "Climate change is an existential threat. America has a housing crisis. Children are still in cages at our border. But you know, Ellen. #DemocraticDebate."

Castro has a point.

You'd almost think there was no "climate emergency." Obviously CNN doesn't. Illegal immigration is one of the top issues in the surveys. Housing is a crisis in California, which is kind of embarrassing for Dems, so best not to bring it up.

#250 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-16 09:28 AM | Reply

"See how reasonable I am?
You're welcome ~"

Thank you. I have mentioned a few times that ever since I had chemo, my brain sometimes malfunctions in ways I wish it didn't. I often think one thing but say another. The simple example I like to give is that someone asks me if I want ice tea or lemonade. I think ice tea but say lemonade. But the really weird and frustrating thing is I don't even realize I've said lemonade until someone brings me a glass. I wish I knew how to fix the problem--a pill I could take, an exercise I could do, a diet I could follow, a prayer I could say--but so far I haven't found the solution to my brain's conundrum.

#251 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 09:33 AM | Reply

Why would anyone think it is possible to cover every important topic in a 3 hour debate with 12 candidates on stage?

#252 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-10-16 09:35 AM | Reply

"Bernie is the ONLY one who can beat Trump!" is just such BS.

#116 | Posted by Corky

That's unproven.

"Only a wall street sellout can beat trump" - is PROVEN to NOT be true.

#253 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-16 02:24 PM | Reply

- That's unproven.

Funny, you've always posted as if it were a fact.

And still do.

#254 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-16 02:30 PM | Reply

Funny, you've always posted as if it were a fact.

And still do.

#254 | Posted by Corky

No the FACT I always post is: trump beat a sellout corporate democrat.

Should we try the same strategy again?

#255 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-16 02:46 PM | Reply

'"Only a wall street sellout can beat trump" - is PROVEN to NOT be true.'
#253 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-10-16 02:24 PM

You've just proven your lack of understanding of how logic works.

One candidate whom the purity ponies deem to be a wall street sellout lost to Trump. The only thing that proves not to be true is the statement that ANY wall street sellout can beat trump, which no one has ever claimed.

#256 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-16 04:18 PM | Reply

One candidate whom the purity ponies deem to be a wall street sellout lost to Trump. The only thing that proves not to be true is the statement that ANY wall street sellout can beat trump, which no one has ever claimed.

#256 | Posted by sentinel

We have one data point - trump beat a status quo corporate democrat.

Based on that data point, should we run another status quo corporate democrat?

Or should we ignore that data point and hope it doesn't happen again?

If you went on a date with a carney and got raped, would your next date be with another carney or would you choose perhaps any other type of person on the planet?

#257 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-16 04:22 PM | Reply

Actually we have 21 data points -

Trump beat 20 status quo republicans and 1 status quo democrat.

If you can't deduce from that that people prefer trump to the status quo, then you shouldn't lecture anyone about how logic works.

#258 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-16 04:23 PM | Reply

At least one of NYT correspondents appears to be calling BS on Yang's "Fred" friend.

#202 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

What a moron. There are literally videos of Yang and that guy.

#259 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-10-16 06:00 PM | Reply

#255

SO... what you are saying is that if Bernie had not lost the Dem primary in a multi-million vote landslide and had somehow not survived the Stalin comparisons and been beaten by Trump...

... you would now be saying: "trump beat a my personal favorite losing socialist candidate.
Should we try the same strategy again?"

That's at least as likely as the only other outcome.

#260 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-16 07:57 PM | Reply

"We have one data point - trump beat a status quo corporate democrat."

Hello. If you think you can draw any conclusions, one way or the other, based on one data point, you need to go back to school.

There were far stronger factors that led to Clinton's loss than her being a status quo corporate democrat.

#261 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-16 08:51 PM | Reply

"Actually we have 21 data points"

Nope. The primary race, even if you ignore that it's a different beast from a presidential election, was just one other data point, which is very out of date.

Another point you're ignoring is that Trump is no longer an outsider, at least not any more than any of the candidates running against him, no matter how much he wants to claim otherwise. Also, given how much Trump has trashed the office he was elected to, the electorate in general is less enamored with choosing an outsider just for the sake of choosing an outsider. Being an "outsider" will be a very minor factor in the upcoming election.

#262 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-16 09:53 PM | Reply

"Want to repeat the results? Nominate Biden!"

You really don't see any difference between Clinton and Biden in their demeanor, character and how they obtained their experience? I think most voters do.

#263 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-16 11:02 PM | Reply

"Want to repeat the results? Nominate Biden!"

You really don't see any difference between Clinton and Biden in their demeanor, character and how they obtained their experience? I think most voters do.

#264 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-16 11:02 PM | Reply

SO... what you are saying is that if Bernie had not lost the Dem primary in a multi-million vote landslide and had somehow not survived the Stalin comparisons and been beaten by Trump...

... you would now be saying: "trump beat a my personal favorite losing socialist candidate.
Should we try the same strategy again?"

#260 | Posted by Corky

Yes. If we had run a progressive leftist against trump and lost, I would say we shouldnt do that again.

But we didn't. We ran a moderate corporate sellout against trump and lost. Should we try that again?

#265 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-17 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You really don't see any difference between Clinton and Biden in their demeanor, character and how they obtained their experience? I think most voters do.

#264 | Posted by sentinel

It think there are too many similarities to risk it:

Ex sentaor
voted for the iraq war
long history of being on the wrong side of issues - drug war, wall street deregulation, etc - before "evolving"
accepts bribes from banks and corporations
borderline scandals in background that can be exaggerated into big scandals by repub media

#266 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-17 05:09 PM | Reply

#266, all the similarities you mention are as irrelevant as them having 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes, etc., or anything else they have in common with Obama. Now let's look at their differences:

Only one of them-
Regularly yelled at or talks down to people
Has a shrill and humorless personality
Calls many voters deplorable
Was and is married to an impeached former president
Ran a nasty campaign against Obama
Lost the electoral vote (which is what counts)
Is not an "alpha" male candidate (or equivalent)
Cannot get under Trump's skin

Btw, there's not a single candidate in either party who doesn't have borderline scandals in their backgrounds that could be exaggerated by their opponents. The test is in how they handle it, and so far Biden is killing it and causing his opponents to make awkward responses rather than giving them himself.

#267 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-17 06:13 PM | Reply

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