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Wednesday, October 16, 2019

The president's businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers "versions of fraud."

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Damn! This news shocks me to my core.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-16 11:35 AM | Reply

When did Bank Fraud become a crime

- The DR "conservative"

#2 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-16 11:36 AM | Reply

"It's hard to argue numbers. That's black and white."

Posted by OCUser

No see who comes to argue numbers.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-16 11:36 AM | Reply

It will be discovered that Donald Trump secretly keeps another wife and family. The wife will be a brown-skinned Honduran and former maid, still without papers.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-16 11:38 AM | Reply

When did Bank Fraud become a crime

Just another harmless process issue... nothing to see here, move along....

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-10-16 12:01 PM | Reply

May?!?

#6 | Posted by qcp at 2019-10-16 12:20 PM | Reply

Just like any good criminal organization.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-10-16 12:22 PM | Reply

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Correct, and that's why I'm skeptical.

#8 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-10-16 12:24 PM | Reply

Michael Cohen touched on this topic during his Feb 28, 2019 testimony...

5 Revelations From Cohen: 2017 Checks, 'Catch-And-Kill,' Possible Book Deal
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...(4) Ocasio-Cortez lays groundwork to seek more info on Trump finances

Questioning by freshman Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., was among the most anticipated of the hearing. The rising Democratic star didn't grandstand. Rather, she used her time to appear to make a case for subpoenaing Trump's tax returns at a later date by asking Cohen for names of other associates who witnessed Trump's efforts to inflate his personal wealth for insurance purposes while also seeking to decrease it to avoid paying property taxes on several properties.

"To your knowledge, did the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company?" she asked. "Yes," Cohen replied. "Who else knows that the president did this?" Ocasio-Cortez continued. "Allen Weisselberg, Ron Lieberman and Matthew Calamari," Cohen said, referring to several Trump associates. And she also asked about Trump trying to reduce local tax bills by then deflating the value of his assets, pointing to one of his golf courses in her district which has been the subject of such reports.

"You deflate the value of the asset and then you put in a request to the tax department for a deduction," Cohen explained....



#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-16 12:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Correct, and that's why I'm skeptical.

Honestly. Donnie could give the Democratic Party the cooked books and show them how he was cooking the books, and the Democrats would still fumble.

At a certain point, you have to ask yourself, are the Democrats really this dumb, or are they complicit?

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-10-16 12:29 PM | Reply

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Correct, and that's why I'm skeptical.

#8 | Posted by 101Chairborne at

You don't believe in patterns of behavior.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-16 12:45 PM | Reply

May have?

While I wouldn't be surprised if this is true, wake me up when we pass the speculative stage.

#12 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-16 01:51 PM | Reply

#10

Unfortunately, I think history has shown that it is a lot of both for the Dems and the GOP.

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-16 02:06 PM | Reply

wake me up when we pass the speculative stage.

#12 | Posted by JeffJ

Not like it will make a difference.

Because Hunter Biden farted last week, so no biggy...

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-16 03:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Probably just getting ready for Christmas

- goat "never an excuse too lame" boy

#15 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-16 04:14 PM | Reply

"- goat "never an excuse too lame" boy

#15 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES "

Again, just a drive by insult and no substance. If you were a rightie, the proggies would have plonked the ---- out of you

#16 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 04:16 PM | Reply

"These tax documents are too complicated to understand!"

"-Cult 45

#17 | Posted by anton at 2019-10-16 09:16 PM | Reply

Our president cheats on his taxes? Well knock me over with a feather!

#18 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-10-16 10:08 PM | Reply

Trump is just as corrupt as any other Washington politician. As if this will change anything?

People who are obsessed with following Trump's many known and predictable flaws are just as mentally diseased as the people who still support him.

#19 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-16 10:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

While I wouldn't be surprised if this is true, wake me up when we pass the speculative stage.

#12 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-10-16 01:51 PM | REPLY

The documents prove its true.

Wake up time.

#20 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-16 10:32 PM | Reply

People who are obsessed with following Trump's many known and predictable flaws are just as mentally diseased as the people who still support him.

#19 | POSTED BY SENTINEL AT 2019-10-16 10:24 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You feel these crimes should go unpunished?

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-16 10:36 PM | Reply

"You feel these crimes should go unpunished?

#21 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER "

If it's good enough for Nancy Pelosi, it's good enough for me.

#22 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 10:39 PM | Reply

"You feel these crimes should go unpunished?"

False inference. Do you really believe there is any meat here that will result in Trump being punished, beyond maybe a fine which is just chump/trump change to him? So any legal consequences will probably be minor while the political ones will be nil.

#23 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-16 10:50 PM | Reply

Trump is just as corrupt as any other Washington politician. As if this will change anything?

People who are obsessed with following Trump's many known and predictable flaws are just as mentally diseased as the people who still support him.

#19 | Posted by sentinel

Mentally diseased is sharting the intellectually shallow "they're all the same" nonsense as if it's a point worth making.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-16 10:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

False inference. Do you really believe there is any meat here that will result in Trump being punished, beyond maybe a fine which is just chump/trump change to him? So any legal consequences will probably be minor while the political ones will be nil.
#23 | POSTED BY SENTINEL AT 2019-10-16 10:50 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Tax crimes are serious

#25 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-16 11:07 PM | Reply

If it's good enough for Nancy Pelosi, it's good enough for me.

#22 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-10-16 10:39 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

It appears Nancy is impeaching. So you're full of bs.

#26 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-16 11:12 PM | Reply

"It appears Nancy is impeaching.
POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER"

She isn't yet. Present tense is wrong. Did you mean she *will* be impeaching? If so, when? Will it be before the election in your opinion? And doesn't an impeachment inquiry have to happen first? They're still talking about that. Even that isn't happening. When will that happen do you reckon?

" So you're full of bs."

Um, OK. If it's good enough for Nancy Pelosi, it's *not* good enough for me. Does that make you happier?

#27 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-16 11:18 PM | Reply

"Tax crimes are serious"

Again, do you really believe anything will come of this? Especially within the next 12-13 months?

#28 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-17 12:21 AM | Reply

Yes. The public should know before they vote

#29 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-17 12:29 AM | Reply

Tax crimes put Al Capone in Alcatraz when they couldn't prove murder.

#30 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-10-17 12:33 AM | Reply

Didn't Rachel MadCow have some sort of tax documents that she stopped the world with to see a couple of years ago? Remind me how that turned out, proggies.

#31 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-17 01:37 AM | Reply

Tax crimes are serious

#25 | Posted by BruceBanner

Yea, just ask Al Capone...

OCU

#32 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-17 01:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And doesn't an impeachment inquiry have to happen first?

#27 | Posted by goatman

The House has been conducting an official impeachment inquiry since September 24th.

And before you make some crack about there not having been a vote on it, that's not required, neither by the Constitution nor the House rules, which BTW, is also covered in the Constitution.

OCU

#33 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-17 01:50 AM | Reply

"The House has been conducting an official impeachment inquiry since September 24th.
#33 | POSTED BY OCUSER "

Exactly.

After 2.5 years talking about impeachment, the House is finally talking bout asking about it.

LOL

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-17 01:51 AM | Reply

People are saying the dems were waiting for trampy to finish building his wall before impeaching.
They got tired of waiting.

#35 | Posted by bored at 2019-10-17 02:48 AM | Reply

"People are saying the dems were waiting for trampy to finish building his wall before impeaching.
They got tired of waiting.

#35 | POSTED BY BORED "

LOL What are hyou talking about? THe Dems were the ones stopping it.

#36 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-17 02:50 AM | Reply

The timing is reflective of the will of the American people

#37 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-17 08:02 AM | Reply

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

Conservatives, am I doing this correctly? Y'all are much better than I am at riling up lynch mobs by promising to jail political opponents.

#38 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-17 10:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

If he committed tax fraud, then the IRS will slap him down, as they should. Politically, this smells like just another distraction to bait those with ADHD and keep their focus on a million things, instead of a few things that could actually take him down.

#39 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-17 12:17 PM | Reply

If he committed tax fraud, then the IRS will slap him down, as they should.

#39 | Posted by sentinel

You do know don't you that there's another whistleblower out there, only this time they're from the IRS and they've been talking to Congress for over a month now about how political appointees at the White House have been interfering with the mandatory audits of the Trump and Pence tax returns. This information has been provided to the judge in the Congressional lawsuit which is currently being adjudicated in federal court.

OCU

#40 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-17 12:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major "Inconsistencies"

AKA fraud

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-18 06:21 AM | Reply

Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major "Inconsistencies"

All Trump has to do is act like an adult and let you people demagogue him to election day.

It's as if you people want to lose.

#42 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-18 06:55 AM | Reply

"The troubles at Trump Doral " detailed here for the first time, based on documents and video obtained under Florida's public-records law " suggest the Trump Organization's problems are bigger than previously known. This is also the first known case in which a Trump Organization representative has publicly acknowledged the president's name has hurt business."

Having two sets of financial records is a felony in all 50 states.

Now you see why Fat Nixon wanted his tax returns kept secret.

#43 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-10-18 07:30 AM | Reply

"All Trump has to do is act like an adult"

Well in that case Democrats have nothing to worry about.

#44 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-10-18 07:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well in that case Democrats have nothing to worry about.
#44 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

I'm sure you lefties believe that trashing Trump relentlessly day in and day out is a winning strategy.

#45 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-18 08:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Most people know that tax "inconsistencies" are the business of the IRS.

#46 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-18 08:44 AM | Reply

Pointing out all the stupid ---- he does and says is not "trashing" anybody. If he didn't produce so much to criticize there'd be no issue.

#47 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-10-18 09:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People who are obsessed with following Trump's many known and predictable flaws are just as mentally diseased as the people who still support him.

#19 | Posted by sentinel

Yeah stupid. People who want to get a crook out of the white house are MENTALLY DISEASED.

That mental disease is called patriotism.

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-18 03:21 PM | Reply

I'm sure you lefties believe that trashing Trump relentlessly day in and day out is a winning strategy.

#45 | Posted by Ray

I'm sure you righties believe that constantly defending an obvious crook and con man is a winning strategy.

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-18 03:22 PM | Reply

I'm sure you righties believe that constantly defending an obvious crook and con man is a winning strategy.
#49 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I told you, I treat politics as a spectator sport.

My opinion is that you people have taken up a losing strategy. That does not mean I side with the right.

#50 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-18 03:29 PM | Reply

Ray would have us believe that his "no government" philosophy doesn't put him closer to "small government" Republicans than "big government" Democrats.

Ray must think we're stupid.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 03:35 PM | Reply

I told you, I treat politics as a spectator sport.

My opinion is that you people have taken up a losing strategy. That does not mean I side with the right.

#50 | Posted by Ray

Yeah you're a spectator that runs onto the field and takes a bat to the knees of one side's quarterback.

You side with the right because you always attack the left and never the right. We're not as dumb as you sound.

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-18 04:00 PM | Reply

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