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Thursday, October 17, 2019

Alex Williams: "No one on this stage wants to protect billionaires - not even the billionaire wants to protect billionaires," noted Senator Amy Klobuchar.
It's an idea that's going around. Mark Zuckerberg, the Facebook founder who is worth close to $70 billion, is apparently open to it. "I don't know that I have an exact threshold on what amount of money someone should have," he said in live-streamed question-and-answer session with company employees in early October. "But on some level, no one deserves to have that much money."

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Studies over the years have indicated that the rich, unlike the leisured gentry of old, tend to work longer hours and spend less time socializing.

Tim Cook, the chief executive of Apple, whose worth has been estimated in the hundreds of millions, has said that he wakes up at 3:45 a.m. to mount his daily assault on his corporate rivals.

Elon Musk, the man behind Tesla and SpaceX, is worth some $23 billion but nevertheless considers it a victory that he dialed back his "bonkers" 120-hour workweeks to a more "manageable" 80 or 90.

Almost everything rich people touch makes money, but this current financial inferno has meant little for the bottom 50 percent of earners in the United States, who have 32 percent less wealth than they did in 2003.

The 1 percent have, as of last decade, 85 percent of their net worth tied up in investments like stocks, bonds and private equity, where value has exploded.

According to Redfin, the average sale price of properties in the top 5 percent are up 43 percent nationally over the past decade, and up even more in Los Angeles and San Francisco.

Fine vintage watches, which have become a must-have for the young male money class, are exploding in value, with prices on certain five-figure models of Rolexes doubling in just a few years.

Gold, once derided as a relic, is up 40 percent in the past few years.

What's happening?


What's happening is that America is in it's SECOND Gilded Age.

It's class warfare, and the corporations and the 1% have won.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 08:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The Thomas Frank video at the top of this thread is awesome ...

Thomas Frank - Pity the Billionaire
www.youtube.com
[1:10:15]

Author and journalist, Thomas Frank, reads from and talks about his latest book,

PITY THE BILLIONAIRE: THE HARD-TIMES SWINDLE AND THE UNLIKELY COMEBACK OF THE RIGHT.

Thomas Frank spoke at Powell's City of Books in Portland, Oregon, on January 20, 2012.


QFT

#2 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 08:51 AM | Reply

It's class warfare capitalism, and the corporations and the 1% have won will always win.

#3 | Posted by qcp at 2019-10-17 08:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Elon Musk, the man behind Tesla and SpaceX, is worth some $23 billion

#1 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF AT 2019-10-17 08:45 AM | FLAG:

He's claiming poverty in his current lawsuit with the guy he called a pedo. Insufficient liquidity, and leaning on an AIG insurance payout to cover it.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-10-17 09:06 AM | Reply

New money billionaires are billionaires BECAUSE of their work ethic. There exists a type of person that doesn't feel complete unless they are part of the action. It's true of both the very rich and the not-so-rich. Look at football coaches, both college and pro, with huge contracts that have made them multimillionaires, still putting in obscene hours. They quit coaching and they die. Nor are CEOs of successful mid-tier companies who work until they're 80. Nor politicians who grafted their way to becoming multimillionaires and won't retire. Ask Mick Jagger why he still walks on stage. It's an addiction and it gets them out of bed every morning with a purpose.

#5 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-10-17 09:28 AM | Reply

Reminds me of the old axiom: "The early bird gets the worm".

Pinch, I understand what you are posting about income inequality. But it cant be stopped. There will always be people who are better than others at getting resources. The difference with todays rich are, they are actually working to get those riches and they deserve it.

You are basically mad because someone else is good at something and they are excelling at it.

#6 | Posted by boaz at 2019-10-17 09:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It'scapitalism, and the corporations and the 1%will always win.

#3 | POSTED BY QCP

Why are you uncomfortable with the phrase "class warfare"?

#7 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 09:53 AM | Reply

#7 Why do YOU keep invoking it? When did working long hours and succeeding as a result become "warfare"? This is not a zero sum gain economy. As far as I can tell, the only people invoking class warfare are those hoping to incite the unsuccessful to start fighting the successful.

#8 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-10-17 10:06 AM | Reply

Why many of them are still working -- It is part of the same work ethic that made so many of them wealthy.

#9 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-10-17 10:30 AM | Reply

#7, I'd rather talk about the actual problem.

#10 | Posted by qcp at 2019-10-17 10:30 AM | Reply

My Dad is very well off and at 85 years old is still working, and hard. He has been an international cotton gin salesman/engineer for over 60 years. He still travels to places like China, Uzbekistan (lots of business there) Australia and more. He is very well known in the global cotton gin industry.

He says he does it be active. He says if he stopped, he would die. My sisters and I think the job is going to kill him, though.

#11 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-17 10:37 AM | Reply

Cuz we know the losers can't do it without out us.....

He says if he stopped, he would die.

QFT! Never reach equilibrium!

#12 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-17 10:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What's happening is that America is in it's SECOND Gilded Age."

You do understand that, if the 1% did stop working, it wouldn't make the remaining 99% any richer, right? And that the tax rates for the 99% would need to be increased in order to cover the costs of running the government. Particularly if the government adopted some sort of Berniesque hand out plan.

#13 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-17 10:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

If you're a problem solver, pretty much anything you do is going to be value added. Someone is going to be willing to pay you for it. And the alternative would be to sit around a drink all day. That's not particularly good for the ol' liver.

#14 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-17 10:56 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Might as well ask why do successful people do things that make them successful?

Why can't they stop succeeding so I can?

#15 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2019-10-17 10:57 AM | Reply

Many of them don't work, at least not in the sense that they have jobs which contribute to the GDP. Many of them are earning their millions from investments, often made by their parents and grandparents and which they've simply inherited.

Or it's like the Ford family which lives off the dividends being paid by the Ford Motor Company, which BTW, is WHY back in 2009 when the government bailed-out the auto industry Ford never participated in the program. Now some people say that they didn't need the money because they were such a well run company. Sorry, many of their employees suffered more than did the GM and Chrysler people did, all to keep the dividends flowing to the Ford's. Chrysler was forced into selling the company, first to Daimler (Mercedes) and then eventually to Fiat. GM was forced to declare bankruptcy before they finally were able to work their way out of trouble but they also had to agree to protect their employees, something Ford never had to agree to, all so that the dividends could continue to flow, something that would have been halted by the bankruptcy court if they had gone the GM route or suspended by the new owners if they had gone the Chrysler route.

No, many of the 1% don't actually have 'jobs'. They just get the money.

OCU

#16 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-17 12:52 PM | Reply

#16 Those people - the idle rich - are not the subject of the article.

#17 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-10-17 01:21 PM | Reply

#16 Those people - the idle rich - are not the subject of the article.

#18 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-10-17 01:21 PM | Reply

MadBomber often worries the rich will stop working if taxes return to Eisenhower levels...

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-17 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"the bottom 50 percent of earners in the United States, who have 32 percent less wealth than they did in 2003."

Looks like they might have to soon cut back on Apple devices, craft beers, and Chipotle.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-17 01:24 PM | Reply

"Many of them are earning their millions from investments, often made by their parents and grandparents and which they've simply inherited."

The term "many" is subjective," but less than 20% of millionaires inherited their money, and 90% of family fortunes are no longer rich by the third generation.

#21 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-17 01:50 PM | Reply

"MadBomber often worries the rich will stop working if taxes return to Eisenhower levels..."

Not really.

The vast majority of wealthy people balked at TRA 86, which lowered taxes under Reagan. Because the lower rate was accompanied by restrictions on what could be deducted.

A 90% tax rate isn't much of a threat if you can deduct everything.

#22 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-17 01:53 PM | Reply

I'd rather talk about the actual problem.

#10 | POSTED BY QCP

So tell us what's the actual problem.

#23 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 02:10 PM | Reply

#21

The third generation thing is a bit misleading as exponential growth of following generations tends to split the wealth. For example there are close to 150 descendants of Rockefeller only 1 makes the Forbes 400 but do you think any of the other 149 are concerned about where their next meal is coming from? BTW they are now 5th/6th generation.

Also there is a certain implication of some posters on this thread that the rich work their ass off while the poor sit around collecting handouts and only work enough to keep the gravy train rolling. I have known plenty of poor folks who work 80-100 hours a week and lots who would work more but the hours of their various jobs don't allow it. I have known rich and poor who clock out early each day and rich and poor who work OT and Saturday's.

There are a ton of factors that come into play that can make a difference in results from the same effort. It gets real old hearing the trite meme that the rich work harder than the poor.

#24 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-10-17 02:29 PM | Reply

#23 I did, see post #3.

#25 | Posted by qcp at 2019-10-17 02:37 PM | Reply

"Also there is a certain implication of some posters on this thread that the rich work their ass off while the poor sit around collecting handouts and only work enough to keep the gravy train rolling."

Define "working".

I go to the gym 5-7 days a week. Lifting weights is easily the most strenuous thing I do each day. Yet I don't get any money for doing it, because it's not exactly value added for anyone but me.

Shoveling wet snow would be grueling, back breaking work. But it would likely never earn someone much more than minimum wage. The people making the high incomes get their not by having a strong back, but by being good problem solvers and/or decision makers.

#26 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-17 03:06 PM | Reply

I did, see post #3.

#25 | POSTED BY QCP

FDR saved capitalism ...

How FDR Saved Capitalis
www.hoover.org

FDR did it by enacting ...

New Deal policies that included millionaires, billionaires and corporations paying their fair share of taxes ...

along with all the other ways FDR did to raise the floor on wealth and income inequality thru strict anti-trust and regulatory enforcement, and his WPA to carry out his many public works projects ...

All this accomplished TWO BIG things ...

1. rich people stayed rich, just not Roaring 20s out-of-control level rich that caused the 1929 Stock Market Crash ...

AND

2. created dignified jobs that paid living wages for ordinary Americans while fixing areas of America that needed fixing.

That's how FDR dealt with class warfare -- and that's how America needs to address today's grotesque levels of wealth and income inequality.

#27 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 03:18 PM | Reply

"but less than 20% of millionaires inherited their money."

Nobody considers a millionaire rich these days.
You are evoking a caricature from a different time.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if you are a millionaire, MadBomber.

From the source of your oft-quoted stats, www.investopedia.com
The Bottom Line
Maybe you see a pattern here: today's millionaires are people who live within their means, budget and spend wisely, and focus on financial independence first. These are habits that take discipline, but ones we can all adopt to begin growing wealth. If these facts prove anything, it's that every one of us can strive to become a millionaire - you can start by driving your old car with pride. (For tips from the rich, check out 6 Millionaire Traits That You Can Adopt.)

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-17 03:40 PM | Reply

This thread deserves the DR Front Page attention that its now getting ~

#29 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 04:52 PM | Reply

You do understand that, if the 1% did stop working, it wouldn't make the remaining 99% any richer, right?

#13 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

You do understand FDR solved this sort of problem already, right?

#30 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 04:55 PM | Reply

MadBomber often worries the rich will stop working if taxes return to Eisenhower levels...

#19 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

QFT

#31 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 04:56 PM | Reply

"What's happening is that America is in it's SECOND Gilded Age."

You do understand that, if the 1% did stop working, it wouldn't make the remaining 99% any richer, right?

#13 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

You do understand that Teddy Roosevelt solved the problem of America's FIRST Gilded Age with his Square Deal and being a Trust Buster, right?

#32 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 05:01 PM | Reply

I guess that puts my wife and I in the 80%. Our net worth is over $2 million, and we inherited almost nothing (a couple of shotguns from my father and my wife inherited a antique Singer sewing machine from her mother). We've earned every dime thru a combination of the sweat of our brow, to the investment of our funds, to living a modest lifestyle and instilling in our three sons the work ethic, so that they have not become a financial burden. In fact, they've gotten more monetary help from us over the years than we ever got from our parents, but they're all gainfully employed and working to establish their own futures.

OCU

#33 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-17 05:02 PM | Reply

"Because that would make unemployment numbers get even better and we don't want that as long as Trump is president."

The usual proggie suspects

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-17 05:31 PM | Reply

"Why Don't Rich People Just Stop Working?"

For the same reason that politicians don't....FOR THE MONEY.

#35 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2019-10-17 05:39 PM | Reply

#26

Are those goal posts heavy?

First it was they aren't working, now they are working but their work is low value.

No one disputes that lots of jobs are low value, they still have to be done though. So we need some way to allow people who do low value jobs to still live.

The frustration and anger isn't that the rich are so rich, it's that the rich are so rich and Joe Ditchdigger can't afford to fix his car despite working 60 hours a week. Should Mr. Ditchdigger get an education and a skill? Yes obviously, but some people are't capable of that. Mr. Ditchdigger might be the best darn ditch digger in the world, show up early and work late digging twice as many ditches a day as anyone else but maybe he's not that bright, or maybe he has MS and has no working memory, or maybe he works as an Uber driver when not digging ditches and doesn't have time left in the day to go to school.

#36 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-10-17 07:27 PM | Reply

I guess that puts my wife and I in the 80%. Our net worth is over $2 million, and we inherited almost nothing (a couple of shotguns from my father and my wife inherited a antique Singer sewing machine from her mother). We've earned every dime thru a combination of the sweat of our brow, to the investment of our funds, to living a modest lifestyle and instilling in our three sons the work ethic, so that they have not become a financial burden. In fact, they've gotten more monetary help from us over the years than we ever got from our parents, but they're all gainfully employed and working to establish their own futures.
OCU

#33 | POSTED BY OCUSER

Again, FDR saved capitalism -- FDR ensured rich people stayed rich while finding effective solutions for ordinary Americans -- so this sort of argument should never make you worry.

America's wealth and income inequality problems are WAY bigger than any single person who personifies your noble example.

Nearly half of all Americans work incredibly hard, many in multiple jobs, yet can't afford a $400 emergency expense -- if this situation didn't exist, these arguments about money and wages would not happen, not to mention politicians like Bernie Sanders would not be popular.

#37 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 07:31 PM | Reply

It's class warfare, and the corporations and the 1% have won.

#1 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF AT 2019-10-17 08:45 AM | FLAG:

There was a point where you decided that the best course of action to solve this was to kill off the left.

I never understood why that was a productive move.

#38 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-17 09:03 PM | Reply

I think Bernie is still trying to kill off the left. We will see what he does to poison Warren's candidacy.

#39 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-17 09:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"It's class warfare, and the corporations and the 1% have won."

For me the strongesg indicator of how true this is:

All the people of various political stripes who are outraged at 1%er Lebron for not badmouthing China.

Like the cure for rampant global exploitation is to make somebody filthy rich, then hope that they speak out about exploitation and oppression.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-17 09:14 PM | Reply

I think Bernie is still trying to kill off the left. We will see what he does to poison Warren's candidacy.

#39 | POSTED BYBRUCEBANNER

How is Bernie going to poison Warren, slip a tainted matzo ball in her Cherokee commemorative peace pipe?

#41 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 09:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Maybe Bernie will reveal how much Wampum Warren has received from corporate donors.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-17 09:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Wampum Warren"

lol

I'm filing that one away for future use -- don't worry, I'll send you the royalty check ~

#43 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-17 10:10 PM | Reply

You boys will lead the attacks here then?

#44 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-17 11:09 PM | Reply

"FDR saved capitalism"

Obviously he didn't or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

#45 | Posted by qcp at 2019-10-18 08:47 AM | Reply

The term "many" is subjective," but less than 20% of millionaires inherited their money, and 90% of family fortunes are no longer rich by the third generation.

#21 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Then lets just level the playing field. How about a 100% death tax. The only way around it is to donate your money to charity.

Make it so ALL the millionaires are "self-made".

I have no problem with "self-made" people earning and enjoying their money. What I have a problem is with their beneficiaries leaching off society (by doing no productive work, or getting "paid" just for the fact that they control the capital). And then, like the Trump kids, thinking they are better and smarter than everyone else just because they were born to a rich parent.

#46 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-18 09:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You do understand FDR solved this sort of problem already, right?"

I don't actually. But I'll hazard a guess that you're willing to mansplain it to me.

#47 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-18 12:18 PM | Reply

"Then lets just level the playing field. How about a 100% death tax. The only way around it is to donate your money to charity."

OK? I'm not sure what you would expect to gain by taxing dead people...but if you think you can get money from them, I say go for it.

#48 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-18 12:38 PM | Reply

Cannot believe I'm quoting Alec Baldwin, but he does tell it like it is/he gets it, unlike the wealth envy crowd on the left:

"THE DEMONIZATION OF WEALTH IN THIS COUNTRY IS MIND BLOWING.
A COUNTRY BUILT ON BOTH FREEDOMS AND COMMERCE. NOW, ALL SUCCESS IS SCRUTINIZED. MERELY TO SUCCEED, ESPECIALLY FINANCIALLY, INVITES SCRUTINY, JUDGMENT, ABUSE."

#49 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-10-18 12:42 PM | Reply

#49

The progressive left has done an absolutely amazing job promoting their message of inequality in the US...convincing some of the richest people on earth that, despite their wealth, they were actually victims of those who had more wealth.

#50 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-10-18 12:44 PM | Reply

#5 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

Reminds me of a hard charging SN I oversee who is aiming to get a fleet returnee Academy seat. I'm in their corner working on compiling their package and connecting them to interviews to get the paperwork aligned and LoR interviews in place. Based on what they've already done, they're going to do great things.

#51 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-10-18 12:52 PM | Reply

"MERELY TO SUCCEED, ESPECIALLY FINANCIALLY, INVITES SCRUTINY, JUDGMENT, ABUSE."

^
Ever tried being black?

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 01:09 PM | Reply

"convincing some of the richest people on earth that, despite their wealth, they were actually victims of those who had more wealth."

Like Bernie Madoff's investors?
You'rue saying they weren't actually victims?
Rich people can't be victims?

Your equivocations and rationalizations are always such a treat!

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 01:13 PM | Reply

"The progressive left has done an absolutely amazing job promoting their message of inequality in the US...convincing some of the richest people on earth that, despite their wealth, they were actually victims of those who had more wealth."

You keep trying to sell this BS as if it is somehow meaningful. Wake me when the cost of living in this country comes close to that of some of the most impoverished nations in the world and then you might come close to making a point.

#54 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-10-18 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#52 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-10-18 01:09 PM | FLAG: Got a problem with the statement, then tweet to Alec Baldwin as those are his words - hence the quotation marks.

#55 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-10-18 01:19 PM | Reply

"Got a problem with the statement, then tweet to Alec Baldwin"

I see you're too ----------- to answer the question.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 01:21 PM | Reply

"the cost of living in this country"

His response to that is, you can just go live in the woods like the Unabomber, costs drop to nearly zero! There's all kinds of medicinal herbs and roots out there too.

MadBomber will go to his grave still wondering why poverty exists, when poor people can eliminate their own poverty by forgoing money altogether and returning to a pre-currency hunter-gatherer lifestyle.

It's poor people who still want to live in society who cause poverty!

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 01:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Alec Baldwin's Trump impersonation might be funny but he's never struck me as anything more than a smug, entitled, POS. We grew up in the same neighborhood. That town is infested with people like him.

#58 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-10-18 01:26 PM | Reply

"His response to that is, you can just go live in the woods like the Unabomber, costs drop to nearly zero!"

It's so stupid. Even if I went along with this notion it quickly falls apart when you consider what would happen if even a small percentage of poor people went this route. Millions of Americans living in state parks and national forests, chopping down trees for heat and cooking fuel, hunting down every last animal in the woods. That couldn't be a sustainable proposal for even a decade. Did I mention the idea was stupid?

#59 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-10-18 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That couldn't be a sustainable proposal for even a decade."

Oh, I know.
A decade is not enough.
You need like three generations, for 90% of them to die off, or whatever his statistic for rich people is.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Avarice is a disease taking over our wealthy nation. Its funny how we can watch in sanctimonious disgust"hoarders" and "porkers" consuming themselfvs to death and we think nothing of the uber wealthy who are hoarding more money than they will ever need to use in thier lives while insisting that paying a living wage to the ones actually putting labor into creating their fortunes is something they can't afford and still live the American dream.

As it stands now the right are feeders to this 700 lb fatty screaming to be fed and have it ass wiped and they are going for it all the way.

#61 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-10-19 06:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The poor have always been ------ over by the rich. Always have; always will.

--Keith David as PFC King in Oliver Stone's Platoon, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, 1986.

#62 | Posted by madscientist at 2019-10-19 06:56 AM | Reply

"FDR saved capitalism"

Obviously he didn't or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

#45 | POSTED BY QCP

The Hoover Institution, of all places, can even admit that FDR saved capitalism ...

How FDR Saved Capitalism
www.hoover.org

So why can't you admit it?

#63 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-19 07:29 AM | Reply

Rich people continue to work because working and staying actively productive is a way of life.
Just like porch/azz/beer is a way of life to many.

#64 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-19 08:34 AM | Reply

"Vun for all..All for vun"
~Nikkita Krushcev

#65 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-10-19 08:40 AM | Reply

#63 | Posted by PinchALoaf What would you expect from a plutocrat with a white wash of populism? Note: he dumped a real leftist, Wallace as VP when he suspected he wouldn't live through his fourth term for a little known senator from Mo, Truman.

#66 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-10-19 10:57 AM | Reply

What would you expect from a plutocrat with a white wash of populism? Note: he dumped a real leftist, Wallace as VP when he suspected he wouldn't live through his fourth term for a little known senator from Mo, Truman.

#66 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

I know those things -- just as I know that objective facts show that New Deal policies worked.

This thread is about why super-rich douchebags work like greedy sociopaths after accumulating multi-millions and billions of dollars of wealth.

I say -- great, be a sociopath, but you're going to be taxed.

Again, FDR saved capitalism in America by enacting New Deal policies that kept rich people rich, while finding effective solutions for ordinary Americans.

#67 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-19 11:20 AM | Reply

You boys will lead the attacks here then?

#44 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

They'll also whine the loudest about the Progressives impending popular vote win/EC loss.

#68 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-19 02:32 PM | Reply

They'll also whine the loudest about the Progressives impending popular vote win/EC loss.

#68 | POSTED BY JPW

Yeah, like Hillary blaming EVERYONE but herself for losing to a lying douchebag who's also a political novice and a reality TV star.

In fact, Hillary even documented her whining in a book called 'What Happened'.

#69 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-19 06:17 PM | Reply

#70

Thread deserves to make it to seventy ~

#70 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-19 06:18 PM | Reply

Why do they rich want more?

Greed is a mental sickness.

Humanity is inflicted by it.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-10-19 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hillary did blame everybody but herself.

But that non sequitur doesn't address my point whatsoever.

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-19 11:51 PM | Reply

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