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Friday, October 18, 2019

The agreement, announced by Vice President Mike Pence, may stop the killing in the Kurdish enclave in northern Syria. But the cost to American influence is expected to be high.

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In the 11 days between Mr. Trump's fateful phone call with Mr. Erdogan and the trip to Ankara by Mr. Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Thursday, the United States has ceded ground in Syria " including American bases " to the Russian-backed Syrian dictator, Bashar al-Assad. And it has shaken the faith of American allies that, in a time of stress, Washington will have their back.

"This just looks like a complete cave-in by the United States to everything the Turks demanded," said Eric S. Edelman, a former ambassador to Turkey and a senior Defense Department official in the George W. Bush administration. "I don't see what the Turks gave up."
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A Turkish official told the Washington Post that his country's officials who participated in the talks were "surprised and relieved at how easy the negotiations were." The official added, "We got everything we wanted."

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-10-18 08:42 AM | Reply

Mr. Shart of the Deal gave Turkey everything they wanted.

So much winning.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-10-18 09:17 AM | Reply

Took less of a day for the deal to be violated.

#ShartoftheDeal.

#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-10-18 09:19 AM | Reply

Trump's letter to Erdogan frightened him so badly that he decided to take a break for 5 days. I don't believe any President has ever sent a letter written as if Trump was 12 years old before.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-18 11:23 AM | Reply

It appears to be less a cease fire and more an outright surrender

#5 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-18 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Turkey is not annexing part of Syria. The Russians wouldn't allow it.

I'm sure Erdogan hasn't forgotten the US instigated coup attempt against him. It was sure to drive him to be more cooperative with the Russians.

The Russians are the ones brokering peace in Syria, not the US.

#6 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-18 01:33 PM | Reply

"Turkey is not annexing part of Syria. The Russians wouldn't allow it."

What if NATO allows it?

But I like how you've acknowledged Turkey does what Russia says.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 01:34 PM | Reply

It appears to be less a cease fire and more an outright surrender

Posted by ChiefTutMoses

Are "The Kurds" still alive? Captured? Relocating to a safe place?

#8 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-10-18 01:39 PM | Reply

What if NATO allows it?

NATO has no say in the matter. It's an extension of the US.

Besides, Turkey is a NATO member, even if in name only.

But I like how you've acknowledged Turkey does what Russia says.

And away from what the US says.

#9 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-18 01:58 PM | Reply

'Not a cease-fire': How the Trump administration 'capitulated' to Turkey [analysis]
www.nbcnews.com

...President Donald Trump presented Thursday's U.S.-brokered deal with Turkey " which despite sporadic gunfire has paused fighting in northeast Syria " as "a great day for civilization."

But in foreign policy circles it is being widely framed as a capitulation to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and a further gift to Syria's Bashar al-Assad and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The Trump administration, after a whirlwind visit to Ankara by Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, appeared to have handed Erdogan an emphatic victory by agreeing to his so-called safe-zone " a demilitarized area along Syria's border where Turkey wants refugees to live and which has been a longstanding Erdogan objective....

"It is capitulation, it's that simple," said Fawaz Gerges, a professor of Middle Eastern politics at the London School of Economics. "Trump may celebrate this as the deal of the century, but it reaffirms the humiliation of the Trump administration and its betrayal of the Kurds, its loyal allies."

"He's emasculated U.S. foreign policy," he added.

Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from northeastern Syria and to move out of the way of a Turkish invasion on Oct. 9 has been met with sustained bipartisan criticism at home....


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-18 02:37 PM | Reply

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"He's emasculated U.S. foreign policy," he added.

^
Again, this is EXACTLY what Trumpers want.
And lots of Never Trumpers too.

IN fact, the only Never Trumper who seems like he might have a problem with it is MadBomber.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 02:49 PM | Reply

@#11

The big problem is now the US is known for abandoning our allies.

To the point that Sec Pompeo feels the needs to visit Israel to assure them that the US is still their ally.

Pompeo Scrambles to Reassure Israel Over Syria Withdrawal
www.wsj.com

...MIKE POMPEO SCRAMBLES TO REASSURE ALLIES OVER SYRIA WITHDRAWAL: First stop, Jerusalem. ...

[all-caps not mine]

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-18 03:57 PM | Reply

The Kurds are Charlie Brown, and we are Lucy.
Those dummies never learn...

#13 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-10-18 04:00 PM | Reply

So much for "it keeps us safe" platitude Murdered by its biggest cheerleaders no less

It's as if "conservatives" have no real convictions beyond what is politically convenient at any given time

It's just two trillion dollars and a ------- of lives after all

#14 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-18 04:15 PM | Reply

And what's all this talk from Trump about Middle East oil? First he tweets that "The U.S. has secured the Oil," and then later, at the White House, during an Oval Office event commemorating the first 'all-female' spacewalk, which he thought was the first spacewalk by a female ever, at the International Space Station, Trump, responding to a question about his earlier tweet, stated that "We've taken control of the oil in the Middle East -- the oil that we're talking about, the oil that everybody was worried about,". What exactly is he talking about? What oil and where?

OCU

#15 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-19 02:25 AM | Reply

What exactly is he talking about?

I'm sticking with my "Monkey with a Machine Gun" analogy.

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-10-19 02:41 AM | Reply

"The big problem is now the US is known for abandoning our allies."

#12 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2019-10-18 03:57 PM | FLAG: How many on th e left boo-hooed when obama abandoned the Ukrainians rather than stand fast/face down Russia?

#17 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-10-19 01:08 PM | Reply

"Turkish army lifted the border wall across the village of Can Temr between Rasulayn and Dirbasiye" 5 hours ago

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-10-19 01:44 PM | Reply

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